tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7800145534340893669..comments2024-03-29T03:51:13.883-05:00Comments on Althouse: The 8 ghosts that haunt "Dreams From My Father."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13252327528877419732012-05-27T11:37:48.406-05:002012-05-27T11:37:48.406-05:00Yes. Bill Ayers is a very conflicted man. With not...Yes. Bill Ayers is a very conflicted man. With not just a chip on his shoulder, but a boulder.<br /><br />Obama, the POThead POTus was just another punk, and is in fact a terrible role model for all of our kids.<br /><br />The media is a disgrace.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31953802476568288092012-05-15T16:03:39.902-05:002012-05-15T16:03:39.902-05:00You missed the ninth, and most ghostly, ghost that...You missed the ninth, and most ghostly, ghost that haunts "Dreams from My Father": it was ghost-written!Phil Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08565902392066173320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25762628385269296942012-05-15T09:23:09.325-05:002012-05-15T09:23:09.325-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bob Ellisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10446972838620138676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31173459223253842812012-05-15T01:01:49.461-05:002012-05-15T01:01:49.461-05:00Before his book, Cashill made a pretty convincing ...Before his book, Cashill made a pretty convincing case in several articles at americanthinker.com, for those who want to see it in writing.Ralph Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915708905660273961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54783891463154305542012-05-14T23:18:07.040-05:002012-05-14T23:18:07.040-05:00Writer Jack Cashill lays out the case that Bill Ay...Writer Jack Cashill lays out the case that Bill Ayres wrote the book in a talk available at C-SPAN: <br />http://booktv.org/Program/12215/Deconstructing+Obama+The+Life+Loves+and+Letters+of+the+First+Postmodern+President.aspxRichard Chonakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02327763839418228519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5333554096908258642012-05-14T22:45:21.067-05:002012-05-14T22:45:21.067-05:00I had a college professor back in the late 80s who...I had a college professor back in the late 80s who forced us to read "Ecotopia". Indicative of her expertise both on her field and on her course's subject matter is the fact that I can't for the life of me remember what class she taught me except for that awful book. It told us how we should live our lives, that the environmental movement is good and holy, that a combination of California, Oregon and Washington would win a civil war against the rest of the nation, that permanent press shirts are a symbol of all that is evil and unholy, that nothing is needed beyond hospitals with nurses that provide free sex and 20-hour work weeks to make us all better humans.<br /><br />This professor NEVER wore makeup and her armpits were of the free-range variety. She was palpably suspicious of any males in her class, particularly if they were white.<br /><br />I am put in mind of that professor every time I see an Obama speech, read an excerpt of one of his self-worhipping memiors, or otherwise am exposed to the extreme Left in this country.<br /><br />Unlike some colleges at that time, her type was not (at least yet) endemic. But she taught me a lot. Not so much the things she intended to teach me, but she did give me a clear and compelling description of the face of my future political enemies. And for that, I thank her.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12565391786475786128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38480302271856169942012-05-14T22:44:40.130-05:002012-05-14T22:44:40.130-05:00William, I think it depends on the timeframes. I t...William, I think it depends on the timeframes. I think she left him with her parents quite a bit, and seem to remember he was in Indonesia with her from about 6 yrs. till 10 yrs. old, when he requested to stay with his grandparents in Hawaii. I would give him some leeway for ambivalence toward his mother, depending on the amount of time and at which ages they were apart.jungathearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14052796343893692840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63469742803107065772012-05-14T22:19:03.932-05:002012-05-14T22:19:03.932-05:00The most spectral presence in the book is his moth...The most spectral presence in the book is his mother....That incidentally could be considered evidence that he wrote the book himself. A competent ghostwriter would have included more stuff about the mother.....I have the book but I never got past the first chapter. The Althouse excerpts don't provide a compelling reason to pick up the book....Part of my antipathy is that he really doesn't seem to, as Hemingway would say, work close to the horns. There's such a thing as racism, and I suppose Obama got bruised on occasion. There's also such a thing as sexism, and that's where he got gored. Does he examine his father's sexism and put it in the context of African sexism? My guess is no. That's not on the official list of wrongs that a sensitive black man seeks to explore. Anyone he fulfilled his father's dreams by thus abandoning his mother.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1208298879467744672012-05-14T21:12:20.489-05:002012-05-14T21:12:20.489-05:00Good grief.
No doubt progressives find profound w...Good grief.<br /><br />No doubt progressives find profound what the rest of us are free to loathe as profoundly pathological.<br /><br />People voted for this guy? I mean, after reading such rot?<br /><br />GOOD. GRIEF.<br /><br />No, we're doomed. Seriously. The Idiocracy approacheth.<br /><br />People SWOONED at this stuff!rasqualhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157841290344353993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87308779728127356692012-05-14T21:05:40.609-05:002012-05-14T21:05:40.609-05:00OMG! What kind of person would remember this early...OMG! What kind of person would remember this early age inner-conflict crap in such detail, and then cluelessly relate it to the strangers in a biography? <br /><br />If BO actually wrote this tripe (there seems to be in some doubt) he has problems beyond the purview of modern psychotherapy.<br /><br />CharlieGT_Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04041997557177795733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25181507136665090992012-05-14T20:57:53.011-05:002012-05-14T20:57:53.011-05:00Longest scroll to get past this post to older post...Longest scroll to get past this post to older posts...evah.Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459388007426664813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78270683525509275102012-05-14T20:49:31.597-05:002012-05-14T20:49:31.597-05:00I agree with all the comments saying that the writ...I agree with all the comments saying that the writing is phony and the ninth ghost _ Bill Ayers_ is the one to consider. Now that I read it, the writing seems like a person trying to imagine the consciousness of another person, not recollecting their own. You know, Obama is a very poised guy and its hard to believe that all this Oprah stuff is really his own consciousness. <br />And I find the level of drug use pretty shocking. I don't believe good marks of the kind to get you into Harvard Law are compatible with that level.wildswanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11975129877750876072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9927293917110938662012-05-14T20:17:48.796-05:002012-05-14T20:17:48.796-05:00Deborah, you may be too young to remember, but wor...Deborah, you may be too young to remember, but word has it that when you were a toddler, your mother stopped running to you every time you cried. <br /><br />Something tells me that you STILL have the scar, so no denyin' the tale, sister.Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15477671815518634982012-05-14T20:04:02.405-05:002012-05-14T20:04:02.405-05:00Balfegor, I don't know enough to talk about &#...Balfegor, I don't know enough to talk about 'hapa,' but I seem to recall him saying something about a high school coach making disparaging remarks about him(and some friends?) related to his race.jungathearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14052796343893692840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82797100481669586552012-05-14T19:56:52.094-05:002012-05-14T19:56:52.094-05:00Wanna talk about me, wanna talk about I, wanna tal...Wanna talk about me, wanna talk about I, wanna talk about number one, oh me oh my...blah blah me me Me Me MEEE MEEEEEE! Ok, enough about me, let's talk about you. What do you think of me?<br /><br />-President Obama, 44th president of the United States of America because of dumb people who thought it'd be cool to have a black president SOLELY BECAUSE HE'S (partially) BLACK, perhaps hoping he'd be like President Palmer.Bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04381488824563432341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29037632265176544142012-05-14T19:53:36.055-05:002012-05-14T19:53:36.055-05:00it's probably safe to say that 99% of the whit...<i> it's probably safe to say that 99% of the white people he'd encountered by the time he wrote this book didn't have anywhere near this level of inner turmoil about his blackness </i><br /><br />I like Ann Coulter's take on this, in fact referring to Obama's book:<br /><br />"He says the reason black people keep to themselves is that it's 'easier than spending all your time mad or trying to guess whatever it was that white folks were thinking about you.' Here's a little inside scoop about white people: We're not thinking about you. Especially WASPs. We think everybody is inferior, and we are perfectly charming about it."Ernst Stavro Blofeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02237453525690607370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52654280910581136372012-05-14T19:40:35.081-05:002012-05-14T19:40:35.081-05:00Where the hell have all the LEADERS gone?Where the hell have all the LEADERS gone?Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22686994767639807422012-05-14T19:37:44.256-05:002012-05-14T19:37:44.256-05:00This isn't the sixties!
"Where have all ...This isn't the sixties!<br /><br />"Where have all the flowers gone?"<br /><br />Hell, they're EVERYWHERE!Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35941693999259743592012-05-14T19:33:28.389-05:002012-05-14T19:33:28.389-05:00When the leader of the free world spends more ener...When the leader of the free world spends more energy pondering his own navel lint than naval capability, I'd say we have a problem WELL beyond Houston.<br /><br />Until that's resolved, it's a very good thing that NASA's grounded.Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84362220563271852692012-05-14T19:24:11.096-05:002012-05-14T19:24:11.096-05:00I know you were only two, but another "father...I know you were only two, but another "father", the Reverend Martin Luther King, was having dreams that no *thoughtful* American has ever forgotten.<br /><br />Nor should they.Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27200390426729048402012-05-14T19:14:40.110-05:002012-05-14T19:14:40.110-05:00"once he was back in Hawaii I'm kind of d..."once he was back in Hawaii I'm kind of dubious that it was a particularly big deal. There was a large hapa population in Hawaii, after all, and while I have heard from some that hapa used to be derogatory, it doesn't seem particularly so, even in early references (earliest I can find easily in Google Books is 1937)"<br /><br />Obama and his mother moved back to Hawaii in 1970 at the height of the University of Hawaii's "Fabulous Five" era, when the school's basketball team of 5 black kids recruited from the mainland was having enormous success. Hawaii likes nothing better than a champion. This team was putting Hawaii on the map. It had star quality. Team members were considered part of the Hawaii ohana (family). They became part of Hawaii folklore. I imagine in those heady days some of that aura would have rubbed off on a hapa kid like Obama. Not only that, at the prestigious Punahou School, Obama would not have been the only student of mixed ethnicity or nationality. Many of his classmates would have been of much more mixed heritage, although he was likely the only white-African student in the school. It is not uncommon for someone in Hawaii to describe themselves proudly as poi dogs, by which they mean they are a mixture of Chinese, Japanese, Portuguese, Filipino, and Hawaiian blood all rolled into one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49421466166302915532012-05-14T19:13:19.099-05:002012-05-14T19:13:19.099-05:00Meaning this respectfully, of course, but isn'...Meaning this respectfully, of course, but isn't this an analysis you should have done back in 2008? He's been President now for almost 4 years and only now we're supposed to wonder what makes the guy tick? Anyway, I guess Obama has never figured out that most white people aren't really that deep and it's probably safe to say that 99% of the white people he'd encountered by the time he wrote this book didn't have anywhere near this level of inner turmoil about his blackness or not blackness or whatever other apparition he conjures up here to justify this morbid level of self-obsession. How terribly bored he must get with himself.Presley Bennetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06384571851847578239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37324700598912479932012-05-14T19:09:39.280-05:002012-05-14T19:09:39.280-05:00If there is a real ghost story in Obama's book...If there is a real ghost story in Obama's book, it's the true author.<br /><br />As far as why is Ann so obsessed with Obama? That's a pretty simply psychoanalysis. By doing all these posts "digging down" into Obama's past and his motivations, she can convince herself that she is atoning for her complete lack of intellectual curiosity about the man she voted into the most powerful and important job on the planet. If she and her like-minded "intellectuals" had wondered about this four years ago, we might not be on the verge of financial and social ruin.<br /><br />But c'est la vie I suppose. Better late than never...CosmicConservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07539385494131456774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19669062377184231592012-05-14T19:09:06.895-05:002012-05-14T19:09:06.895-05:00Um, Mr. President?
Isn't it time you throw yo...Um, Mr. President?<br /><br />Isn't it time you throw your father's dreams "under the bus"?Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50230116574535794832012-05-14T18:51:40.052-05:002012-05-14T18:51:40.052-05:00I keep going back to the imagined crowd of white c...I keep going back to the imagined crowd of white children teasing the composite Coretta and Barry. It's hard to jibe with the facts, if this 2007 fawn piece by the NYT (linked by a commenter to your dreams post) is to be believed.<br /><br />"'I had my own issues to worry about,' said Mr. [Dan] Hale, who is white — or ha’ole (pronounced HOW-ley) — the Hawaiian term for white outsider. 'Being a ha’ole from Punahou, now that was the worst,' he recalled."<br /><br />Also noted in the article, "The curriculum at Punahou — where library clocks give the time in some developing nations — centered on multiculturalism."<br /><br />So he's at a school focused on multiculturalism, where being white "is the worst"? Something is wrong with Barry's picture.<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/17/us/politics/17hawaii.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2Lawyer Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04487040434589941351noreply@blogger.com