tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7752030301594268098..comments2024-03-28T14:02:48.756-05:00Comments on Althouse: Islamic bumper stickers.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger90125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58625592544046641752008-04-25T09:03:00.000-05:002008-04-25T09:03:00.000-05:00Yeah because we know islam, means terrorist right?...Yeah because we know islam, means terrorist right? give me a break, ignorant shits.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18046667370569228603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1355230068919282212008-04-25T09:02:00.001-05:002008-04-25T09:02:00.001-05:00Ignorance never ceases to amaze me... yeah islam d...Ignorance never ceases to amaze me... yeah islam doesn't mean terrorist... Those people are just the islamic are extremists the jihad people, who are kind of crazy.. Kind of like our bible thumping crazy george bush lovers... but ours aren't as cuckoo...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18046667370569228603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68091837757903197512008-04-25T09:02:00.000-05:002008-04-25T09:02:00.000-05:00Ignorance never ceases to amaze me... yeah islam d...Ignorance never ceases to amaze me... yeah islam doesn't mean terrorist... Those people are just the islamic are extremists the jihad people, who are kind of crazy.. Kind of like our bible thumping crazy george bush lovers... but ours aren't as cuckoo...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18046667370569228603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38885757921160001612007-08-22T07:59:00.000-05:002007-08-22T07:59:00.000-05:00Of course LOS, the stupidest troll on the internet...Of course LOS, the stupidest troll on the internet, fails to see the irony in his accusations of bigotry. What commenter here more frequently resorts to anti gay taunts?stepskipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864263111610753513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24023888501736638632007-08-21T22:23:00.000-05:002007-08-21T22:23:00.000-05:00Lucky:Yes, I think Islam is currently f*cked up an...Lucky:<BR/><BR/>Yes, I think Islam is currently f*cked up and has been getting increasingly f*cked up throughout my lifetime. And, no, it ain't my fault. And, no, that doesn't make me a bigot, just someone who doesn't see Islam as a lovely religion and positive influence. <BR/><BR/>Yes, I do think Islam is the most f*cked up of the major religions right now. That's not to say that 100 years from now Christianity won't become the most f*cked up, as there's plenty of f*cked up sh*t in the Bible that can be used by fundamentalists to send the Christian World back into a potentially barbaric direction. As I said before, I wish the nutters of Islam were pushed to the fringe, but right now they are not. <BR/><BR/>It may be harder for moderate Muslims to gain any ground when folks like you are afraid to help them criticize the worst elements within Islam and instead go around making sure no one is allowed to utter a negative word about Islam. <BR/><BR/>And, yes, there are places in the Muslim world where child brides are sold to old men. Here's <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2006/07/06/magazine/20060709_BRIDES_SLIDESHOW_1.html" REL="nofollow">a NY Times slide show</A> of child brides sold in Afghanistan, for example. Heartbreaking. The Ayatollah in Iran reduced the age girls can be married off down to prepubescents because, hey, that's what Muhammad did. <BR/><BR/>Criticizing the abuses of children and women living in Islamic societies is not bigotry. It's actually serious concern about Muslim children and women. It's not my fault Islam is used to justify these horrible child abuses and gender apartheids. It's the fault of the fundamentalists who want Islamic culture to be stuck 2,000 years ago - Muhammad's time. I guess you're unconcerned about millions of women living in slavery. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, you can't quote anything from me that is bigotry, all you can find is that I don't like Islam and think it's been a terrible influence in the world for the past 30 years. I stand by that, and if you disagree I wonder why you can't tolerate disagreeing. Oh yeah, because you're a bigot and you stand by your bigoted and intolerant approach towards everyone who even slightly disagrees with you. Keep on trollin', boy!LoafingOafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398399168775034527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91222828406519531732007-08-21T20:23:00.000-05:002007-08-21T20:23:00.000-05:00Oaf says: "Hating a member of Islam just because h...Oaf says: "Hating a member of Islam just because he/she is a member of Islam would be bigotry. I treat everyone I come across as a unique individual (the American way) and would never hate or dislike someone simply because he/she is a Muslim."<BR/><BR/>Except for this:<BR/><BR/>OAF: "Also, what do we say about the Islamic countries where there are still child brides sold to old men, justified by Muhammad's life? Can we not say, "Hey, some of those things Muhammad was up to 2,000 years ago have no place in the modern era?" Would that make me a bigot? Or just someone tired of girls and women being abused and enslaved? Well, whatever, I know you'll be the last person to say a bad word about Islam. And now you know where to by some bumper stickers, too. :)"<BR/><BR/>OAF: "It's not my fault Islam is f*cked up. "<BR/><BR/>OAF: "Yeah, Islam is the most despicable from that list in the world of our times. Have you not been reading the news of the world for the past 30 years?"<BR/><BR/>Give-it-up.Luckyoldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11489310035114843752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27987865939794393312007-08-21T20:13:00.000-05:002007-08-21T20:13:00.000-05:00Oaf,Everybody knows what you are.Give it up.Oaf,<BR/>Everybody knows what you are.<BR/><BR/>Give it up.Luckyoldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11489310035114843752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20704255290397519832007-08-21T20:11:00.000-05:002007-08-21T20:11:00.000-05:00Th legacy continues:Biggest One-Week Drop In Histo...Th legacy continues:<BR/><BR/>Biggest One-Week Drop In History Of The Consumer Comfort Index<BR/><BR/>Note the term; HISTORY.Luckyoldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11489310035114843752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52897944183577125192007-08-21T17:59:00.000-05:002007-08-21T17:59:00.000-05:00Twice I said I don't associate myself with the kin...Twice I said I don't associate myself with the kind of statement Slim quoted from someone who has nothing to do with me, yet Lucky says to Slim: <I>You can throw out as many direct quotes from people like Oaf as you want</I><BR/><BR/>That intentional smear is not a surprise. I expect little else from the gangs of commenters like Lucky and Slim who fan out from the smear-artist partisan blogs like Greenwald, SadlyNo, and Instaputz. <BR/><BR/>Slim: <I>And listen to yourself...your statements drip with hate and scorn of Islam. That's fine and your cross to bear, but at least have the stones to admit that you are a bigot.</I><BR/><BR/>Disliking Islam is not bigotry, thicko. <BR/><BR/>Hating a member of Islam just because he/she is a member of Islam would be bigotry. I treat everyone I come across as a unique individual (the American way) and would never hate or dislike someone simply because he/she is a Muslim. <BR/><BR/>(This would perhaps be put to the test if I had lost 31 aquaintances on 9/11, as the commenter who made misguided, hyperbolic remarks had. But even under those circumstances I believe I would not let myself violate my moral code and slip into bigotry.) <BR/><BR/>Here's the definition of Bigot from Mirriam-Webster: <I>: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance</I><BR/><BR/>I don't throw around words like "bigot" loosely, but since you two did against me: I'd say a better case can be made that you, Slim, and your pal Lucky, are bigots. You're both intolerantly devoted to your opinions and prejudices, and you both hate people just because they disagree with you. <BR/><BR/>That you both troll and engage in smears against people simply because they disagree with your ideology, and that you are enthusiastic participants of web sites that engage in the same, is also revealing of your bigotries. <BR/><BR/>Those web sites are run by people at least as bigoted as you two are. For example, what is InstaPutz? It's a web site with the sole purpose of attacking everything and anything Glenn Reynolds says or does while attempting to smear and demonize him in any possible way with no interest in fairness, all because he's not on the Hard Left. <BR/><BR/>I never understood why people like a web site like InstaPutz. You already know he's gonna disagree with everything InstaPundit says tomorrow, no matter what InstaPundit says. But whatever, that's your kind of blog, not mine. It's a blog for bigots like you, Slim. <BR/><BR/>Today InstaPutz claims Glenn Reyolds is mad we're not killing more arabs. Tomorrow it'll be another pathetic smear. All because Glenn Reynolds doesn't think the same as people like Blue Texan and you, Slim. <BR/><BR/>I saw your comments about Althouse over there. You were intentionally unfair to Althouse (you saw her reason for posting the pic up above and pretended otherwise) but you think that's okay because she doesn't label herself with your ideology. <BR/><BR/>You are a bigot and you - along with so many in Islam - need to learn to tolerate people who don't see things the same way you do. (BTW: As much as you admire Islam, my advice is not to convert.)LoafingOafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398399168775034527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20252151505925171142007-08-21T17:16:00.000-05:002007-08-21T17:16:00.000-05:00Prof AYou say you "thought the bumper stickers wer...Prof A<BR/><BR/>You say you <BR/><BR/>"thought the bumper stickers were interesting because they were so innocuous and so much like lefty claptrap, beginning with the smiley face."<BR/><BR/>I get it: The banality of evil.From Inwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555545963289759013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73649833766482202392007-08-21T10:16:00.000-05:002007-08-21T10:16:00.000-05:00dieter,I did.dieter,<BR/>I did.Luckyoldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11489310035114843752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79129427974611762592007-08-21T05:34:00.000-05:002007-08-21T05:34:00.000-05:00Actually, I'm deleting the "kill them all" comment...Actually, I'm deleting the "kill them all" comment.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59960404249550915272007-08-21T05:32:00.000-05:002007-08-21T05:32:00.000-05:00Slim: I didn't see the "kill them all" comment unt...Slim: I didn't see the "kill them all" comment until you pointed it out. I disapprove of that. Of course. The commenter himself disapproves to some extent and recognizes that he's said something wrong. Is there anything else like that here?Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6357834017882596492007-08-21T00:05:00.000-05:002007-08-21T00:05:00.000-05:00Ja, aber es gibt nur einen Herrn Glück. Wir ...Ja, aber es gibt nur <A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?q=Luckyoldson&hl=en&start=200&sa=N&filter=0" REL="nofollow">einen Herrn Glück</A>. Wir haben uns daran nie gewöhnt.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12029549033564693897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40673991417493514252007-08-20T22:13:00.000-05:002007-08-20T22:13:00.000-05:00Oaf,Anybody who actually believes Saddam was invol...Oaf,<BR/>Anybody who actually believes Saddam was involved in an Islamic jihad needs to educate themselves.<BR/><BR/>I suggest you spend more time reading and less time ranting and raving about things of which you obviously know little.<BR/><BR/>There are over one billion Muslims in the world and better get used to it.Luckyoldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11489310035114843752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5556962305012475792007-08-20T22:01:00.000-05:002007-08-20T22:01:00.000-05:00Here's one, since you apparently want to play igno...<I>Here's one, since you apparently want to play ignorant: "I would kill them all and let Allah sort them out". Directly quoted.</I><BR/><BR/>I condemn that statement. Thanks for finally highlighting one instead of trying to make everyone out as wanting to kill all the Muslims.LoafingOafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398399168775034527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25535793717705675682007-08-20T21:52:00.000-05:002007-08-20T21:52:00.000-05:00Saddam was secular (a Baathist)...and whether or n...<I>Saddam was secular (a Baathist)...and whether or not he wanted Jews killed, financed suicide bombers or not...it was certainly NOT based in any form of Islamic religious beliefs.</I><BR/><BR/>Oh, Lucky, I don't really feel like exerting much more energy on you. You're the kind of person who notes typos in people's messages but still can't manage to actually read what they said. <BR/><BR/>Saddam's relationship with Islamic jihad was complicated. He was a dictator who saw the power of jihad and wanted to use it for his own aims, increasingly after the first Gulf War, but he was also aware he wasn't the favorite leader of many of the jihadists. People don't have to love each other to work together against common enemies. <BR/><BR/>If you wanna stick to your simplistic statements like "He was secular" then feel free. I really don't care that much about what you know or don't know. You just shouldn't make factually inaccurate statements such as "He wasn't involded in Islamic terrorism." He was involved and there are victims of his involvement. Shame on the people who whitewash this.LoafingOafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398399168775034527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20887428608133311612007-08-20T21:50:00.000-05:002007-08-20T21:50:00.000-05:00Slim Tyranny,Good luck with these people, and I in...Slim Tyranny,<BR/>Good luck with these people, and I include Ann.<BR/>You can throw out as many direct quotes from people like Oaf as you want and it means absolutely nada. They either deny or ignore what they themselves actually say.<BR/><BR/>This is a basically a right wing suckfest, with bigoted comments the norm. As far as most here are concerned, 9/11 was an open invitation to hate and eventually kill anyone who is not pro-American. (As in: "You're with us or against us.")<BR/><BR/>Now...try to imagine this: Ann Althouse is a tenured law professor.<BR/><BR/>Hard to believe.Luckyoldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11489310035114843752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58217457086315005792007-08-20T21:46:00.000-05:002007-08-20T21:46:00.000-05:00LoafingOaf said... "... All of my comments were ab...LoafingOaf said... <BR/>"... All of my comments were about OUR TIMES, not hundreds of years ago."<BR/><BR/>-----------<BR/><BR/>Except, of course, when you're defending the labeling of Islam as the "child rapist's death cult", based on the historical events of Muhammad's life.Slim Tyrannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04767081093867539653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40305071828356966872007-08-20T21:42:00.000-05:002007-08-20T21:42:00.000-05:00LoafingOaf said... "I don't know, Exalted. I haven...LoafingOaf said... <BR/>"I don't know, Exalted. I haven't read the whole thread. Since you're so eager to look out for the sensitive Islam religion that is always so respectful towards everyone else, feel free to highlight the bigoted statements you object to with direct quotes."<BR/>-------------<BR/><BR/>Here's one, since you apparently want to play ignorant: "I would kill them all and let Allah sort them out". Directly quoted.<BR/><BR/>Hmmm. Kill them all based on their religion, because they are all responsible for 9/11. Yea, not at all bigoted.<BR/><BR/>And listen to yourself --- "Since you're so eager to look out for the sensitive Islam religion that is always so respectful towards everyone else" --- your statements drip with hate and scorn of Islam. That's fine and your cross to bear, but at least have the stones to admit that you are a bigot. Embrace it! And then crow about "not being politically correct."Slim Tyrannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04767081093867539653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28136827386769813712007-08-20T21:39:00.000-05:002007-08-20T21:39:00.000-05:00Lucky: You act as if Christians are the chosen few...Lucky: <I>You act as if Christians are the chosen few, while those who follow others are somehow damned by their beliefs.</I><BR/><BR/>You're a f*cking retard. You replied to a message from me earlier in the thread where I made clear I'm not a Christian and don't even like Christianity. But, no, I don't think Christianity is as bad as Islam, because Christinaity has made itself much more compatible with modern civilization. Islam is lashing out violently against modern civilization and it's gonna be some time before all that works out, unfortunately. <BR/><BR/>I also don't think Judaism is as bad as Christianity, because Jews don't tend to go around condemning everyone to hell and pushing their religion so hard. <BR/><BR/><I>And again...I ask you: are you familiar with the Crusades????</I><BR/><BR/>All of my comments were about OUR TIMES, not hundreds of years ago. There's a crackpot named Pastor Ernie Sanders on the radio in my city (he has to pay for his own airtime and most of his callers are in prison lol) and he often sounds like the most extremist and fundamentalist Muslims. He once said if Cleveland gets hit by a terror attack we'll deserve it because of our abortions. But he's so fringe it's not even funny. His "church" is a milita-man-style bunker out in the sticks. Why aren't his equivalents in Islam also on the laughed-at fringe? <BR/><BR/>I'm not an expert on the Crusades. I think they started in reaction to Islamic Jihad. What's interesting is that people in the West tend to speak of the Crusades with criticism and shame. Maybe that's part of the reason why Christianity reforms itself much more than Islam has so far. Like I said, religion is effed up and effs up the world, and it's not my fault Islam happens to be the most effed up of the major religions right now. I hope they clean themselves up. Maybe more people should stop saying there's nothing wrong with Islam when there's obviously a lot wrong.LoafingOafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398399168775034527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20785484806118869462007-08-20T21:30:00.000-05:002007-08-20T21:30:00.000-05:00Ann Althouse said... "I consider religion to be th...Ann Althouse said... <BR/>"I consider religion to be the realm of ideas and people should be able to argue over whether ideas are good. .... So if some people want to debate about religion they way they'd talk about politics, I think that is acceptable, and I don't feel obligated to monitor everything for nastiness."<BR/>----------<BR/><BR/>I am not talking about monitoring for "nastiness," I am talking about making a substantive statement against this bigotry and hate. These comments are not intellectual points regarding religion in general; these comments are disgusting and ignorant.<BR/><BR/>When you read "Peace is over-rated after what happened to us in New York...I knew 31 people who died on 911...if I had my druthers...I would kill them all and let Allah sort them out...of course that's not politically correct....", do you really think that person is "debating" religion? Or are they really just advocating mindless mass murder/genocide/war<BR/>crimes?<BR/><BR/>"Kill them all and let Allah sort them out"? You want to pretend this is a real debate about the nature of religion? Step up and having something substantive to say.Slim Tyrannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04767081093867539653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73761398634350294742007-08-20T21:15:00.000-05:002007-08-20T21:15:00.000-05:00Oaf,Please show us where I have whitewashed anythi...Oaf,<BR/>Please show us where I have whitewashed anything Saddam ever did, or spit on the victim's of Saddam by rewritting (spellcheck?) Saddam's record or show us where I have defended him in any way, shape or form.<BR/><BR/>You're lying through what few teeth you have left.Luckyoldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11489310035114843752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67309939141629485482007-08-20T21:12:00.000-05:002007-08-20T21:12:00.000-05:00LoafingOaf said...Lucky: Saddam had nothing to do ...LoafingOaf said...Lucky: Saddam had nothing to do with...Islamic terrorism.<BR/><BR/>Please show us where and when Saddam was involved in Islamic terrorism.<BR/><BR/>Saddam was secular (a Baathist)...and whether or not he wanted Jews killed, financed suicide bombers or not...it was certainly NOT based in any form of Islamic religious beliefs.<BR/><BR/>Admit it...you're uninformed and bigoted.Luckyoldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11489310035114843752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90655248399902816392007-08-20T20:58:00.000-05:002007-08-20T20:58:00.000-05:00I don't know, Exalted. I haven't read the whole t...I don't know, Exalted. I haven't read the whole thread. Since you're so eager to look out for the sensitive Islam religion that is always so respectful towards everyone else, feel free to highlight the bigoted statements you object to with direct quotes. <BR/><BR/>I did read some of Lucky's stuff because he was replying to me. Since we're on the topic of offensive postings, I'll quote one that offended me:<BR/><BR/>Lucky: <I>Saddam had nothing to do with...Islamic terrorism</I><BR/><BR/>It's possible Lucky is ignorant, but I don't believe someone who reads newspapers as often as he does could have missed that Saddam was involved with Islamic terrorism. Even the United Nations resolutions on Iraq mentioned his involvement in terrorism, and some of Saddam's activities in that area were not done in secret. He made widely reported speeches pledging money to suicide bombers' families, for example. <BR/><BR/>So, I find it offensive that Lucky whitewahes some of the dead dictator's crimes against humanity. There were innocent people, including children, blown up in horrendously painful and evil fashion, paid for by Saddam Hussein. Whatever Lucky thinks of the invasion of Iraq, he should not spit on the victim's of Saddam by rewritting Saddam's record. Truly vile and he should be ashamed of himself. <BR/><BR/>Also, what do we say about the Islamic countries where there are still child brides sold to old men, justified by Muhammad's life? Can we not say, "Hey, some of those things Muhammad was up to 2,000 years ago have no place in the modern era?" Would that make me a bigot? Or just someone tired of girls and women being abused and enslaved? Well, whatever, I know you'll be the last person to say a bad word about Islam. And now you know where to by some bumper stickers, too. :)LoafingOafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398399168775034527noreply@blogger.com