tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7675566206820426253..comments2024-03-29T00:04:32.434-05:00Comments on Althouse: The end of the quadruple jump.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30689048215819190932010-02-19T20:41:12.979-06:002010-02-19T20:41:12.979-06:00I've seldom been more pissed off at the Americ...I've seldom been more pissed off at the American press. A guy was hounding Lysacek on TV trying to get him to respond to Plushenko. Why should Lysacek have to say anything at all? The scoring system is well-established, a well-executed triples lutz counts as much as a not-as-well-executed quad, jumps later in the program (when the skater is tired) count extra over jumps early in the program, etc. If Plushenko and his coach didn't understand how to maximize their score but Lysacek and his coach did, then that's scarcely a problem for Lysacek, is it? NBC seems bound and determined to whip up controversy, and a guy who was the best out of the strongest field anyone has seen in years is paying the price. There were guys who finished well down in the standings who would have been on the medal podium in past Olympics, and none of the three medalists have anything to be ashamed of in their performance.<br /><br />Least of all Evan Lysacek.Big Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831645119853118904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80411766606244085902010-02-19T20:32:27.438-06:002010-02-19T20:32:27.438-06:00Remember that comment about socialism the other th...Remember that comment about socialism the other thread -- Tradguy, I think. (In socialism no one loses, so you don't deal with it very well, in capitalism people lose from time to time and learn how to cope better -- or WTTE).<br /><br />Seems like the Russian can't deal with not being gold. <br /><br />Too bad, so sad.JALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15503869597362866878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14751338435248942482010-02-19T20:31:20.090-06:002010-02-19T20:31:20.090-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.JALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15503869597362866878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90735106793056779632010-02-19T19:19:52.962-06:002010-02-19T19:19:52.962-06:00Do what you do, do well.<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIAMZxkmivc" rel="nofollow">Do what you do, do well</a>.marinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03435598676103731157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17931524042431933862010-02-19T17:38:55.105-06:002010-02-19T17:38:55.105-06:00Hoosier Daddy said...
"Joaquin, if my kid t...<i> Hoosier Daddy said...<br /> <br />"Joaquin, if my kid told me he wanted to be a figure skater, I'd help him achieve his goal. That's what a parent does."<br /><br />Or beat some sense into him ;-)</i><br /><br />Skating to "Dancing Queen" ?? Another Hoosier classic, with a smiley disclaimer...<br /><br />In the sports page, the run-up to the Olympics had a pretty robust debate about male skaters and the backlash against over-the-top effeminancy. Which the likes of Elvis Stoijko and Evan say DO discourage young male talent from considering the sport. As well as the discouragement from the perception male figure skater = homosexual.<br /><br />Which is a pity, Elvis said in the article because he started into skating as a hockey player, found he liked the idea of expanding his skating skills.....so a country like Canada has a vast pool of talented boy skaters that could be a robust pipeline into figure skating, ice dancing, pairs, but go begging because the more extreme effeminants (he didn't say the "Johnny Weirs") are such a turnoff to Team Canada's recruiting efforts.<br /><br />The point Stoijko makes what he thinks is good for the sport, and not 'anti-gay". And really simple:<br /><br /> Gays are fine in skating as long as they skate like guys and not like feather-draped prancing girls.<br />(And Plushenko is not in the feather-draped pracing girly boy category! He is the perfect haughty Russian....and overall, Russia is getting their asses handed to them this Olympics. If they lose in hockey, the one medal that matters above all others, the Russian rout will be total)Cedarfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602418702398818596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35827765632317195962010-02-19T15:22:09.571-06:002010-02-19T15:22:09.571-06:00I looked up Dick Button on Wiki last night. He to...I looked up Dick Button on Wiki last night. He took 2nd at the 1947 Worlds at 17 and never lost after that. He went to Harvard (because Yale wouldn't let him compete) between Olympics and then HLS.<br /><br />He married (briefly) at 45 and is now 80.<br /><br />I think the new scoring is more objective and transparent (excuse the buzzword) than the old--now they can game the rules instead of the judge.Ralph Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915708905660273961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17788098010829572822010-02-19T11:44:02.821-06:002010-02-19T11:44:02.821-06:00@Madison Man. Dude, I was only kidding.
It's F...<i>@Madison Man. Dude, I was only kidding.<br />It's Friday, and we are a tad burned-out here so I thought some yuks might be in order.</i><br /><br />I wasn't :-)<br /><br />Ok so maybe I wouldn't beat the little dork but that doesn't mean I wouldn't cry myself to sleep.Hoosier Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12872965118921894534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87336318453251370002010-02-19T11:13:35.259-06:002010-02-19T11:13:35.259-06:00@Madison Man. Dude, I was only kidding.
It's F...@Madison Man. Dude, I was only kidding.<br />It's Friday, and we are a tad burned-out here so I thought some yuks might be in order.Joaquinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08498096020863312606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44985398720841643922010-02-19T10:46:51.167-06:002010-02-19T10:46:51.167-06:00A man's reach must exceed his grasp...
Just b...A man's reach must exceed his grasp...<br /><br />Just because it hasn't been done successfully (in the sense of points), only means someone has yet to find a better way.<br /><br />Or something.<br /><br />Scott M said...<br /><br /> <i>Sometimes I think Titus is just Ann's Id getting loose now and then.</i><br /><br />Let us pray.<br /><br />For Meade.<br /><br />WV "hesinin" What Titus says.edutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15589958656028023357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27455086686830449572010-02-19T10:41:33.638-06:002010-02-19T10:41:33.638-06:00"It sounds like a general personal philosophy..."It sounds like a general personal philosophy, doesn't it?"<br /><br />Well, it sounds more like common sense, or perhaps a little folk wisdom that would have worked better if expressed as an aphorism. "Philosophy" is a bit grand for this.Richard Dolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12735773524374061429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16550856041006555702010-02-19T10:41:21.205-06:002010-02-19T10:41:21.205-06:00Joaquin, if my kid told me he wanted to be a figur...<i>Joaquin, if my kid told me he wanted to be a figure skater, I'd help him achieve his goal. That's what a parent does.</i><br /><br />Or beat some sense into him ;-)Hoosier Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12872965118921894534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63973889452655543622010-02-19T10:40:15.657-06:002010-02-19T10:40:15.657-06:00Has anyone of these fellas ever done a routine to ...Has anyone of these fellas ever done a routine to ABBAs Dancing Queen?<br /><br />Just wondering.Hoosier Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12872965118921894534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61762063184904586862010-02-19T10:39:39.331-06:002010-02-19T10:39:39.331-06:00Joaquin, if my kid told me he wanted to be a figur...Joaquin, if my kid told me he wanted to be a figure skater, I'd help him achieve his goal. That's what a parent does.MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3618986654398734582010-02-19T10:26:32.778-06:002010-02-19T10:26:32.778-06:00Some years ago when the quad was first being attem...Some years ago when the quad was first being attempted, I remember reading about a physicist who calculated that theoretical maximum number of rotations that a man could complete doing a toe loop was NINE. So a quad should be no problem, right?<br /><br />But I thought Evan deserved the gold. Plushencko has the best jumps when he is on, but he wasn't last night, and he really shouldn't have been that close to Evan in the final scoring.sane_voterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08122061750041663802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38278969883985660182010-02-19T10:05:58.332-06:002010-02-19T10:05:58.332-06:00I'm not sure if the quad is harder. I do know ...I'm not sure if the quad is harder. I do know that the hardest thing of all is telling your father you want to be a figure skater.Joaquinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08498096020863312606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76061584833520053042010-02-19T09:33:34.337-06:002010-02-19T09:33:34.337-06:00People, people who wear sequins,
Are the limpest w...People, people who wear sequins,<br />Are the limpest wristed people of them all.<br />When a person, a very sequined person,<br />Dances across the ice tippy toed,<br />Then the whole voyald will know,<br />He's the sweetest the juiciest of them all.ricpichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01321511130788764861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76939128321034950652010-02-19T09:23:04.261-06:002010-02-19T09:23:04.261-06:00No more wire hangers and no more triple salchows!No more wire hangers and no more triple salchows!ricpichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01321511130788764861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70038868811617919512010-02-19T09:06:25.658-06:002010-02-19T09:06:25.658-06:00@Fred4Pres
I suspect Meade would be running out o...@Fred4Pres<br /><br /><i>I suspect Meade would be running out of the AltMeadHouse when that "Id" got loose</i><br /><br />Not if he's into that sort of thing...maybe they have a giant mirror on the ceiling with FORBIDDEN PLANET lightscribed into it...Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08871331702531675368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9430526696394056722010-02-19T09:00:13.531-06:002010-02-19T09:00:13.531-06:00Dick Button was very gracious in saying he did not...Dick Button was very gracious in saying he did not care if his record is broken, records are meant to be broken, but I suspect he likes that Evan won.Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21034709799569338482010-02-19T08:57:33.244-06:002010-02-19T08:57:33.244-06:00Whenever I watch the half pipe, I think it would b...Whenever I watch the half pipe, I think it would be more enjoyable to watch with a bong hit. And I do not smoke weed. And don't the athletes look like they are indulging?Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81721610426047164832010-02-19T08:55:16.256-06:002010-02-19T08:55:16.256-06:00Scott M said...
Sometimes I think Titus is just A...<i>Scott M said... <br />Sometimes I think Titus is just Ann's Id getting loose now and then.<br /><br />2/19/10 8:41 AM</i><br /><br />I know he loves to try to shock, but inbetween that stuff Titus really does have good posts. I think he is a real and unique person. If what Scott M said was the case, I suspect Meade would be running out of the AltMeadHouse when that "Id" got loose.Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88795053919068961082010-02-19T08:51:44.129-06:002010-02-19T08:51:44.129-06:00There is so much wisdom to be gleaned from the wor...There is so much wisdom to be gleaned from the words and vision of figure skaters. These are people who are not afraid of sequins.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43774227565123601612010-02-19T08:50:05.557-06:002010-02-19T08:50:05.557-06:00I say skaters should drop the quad and go for the ...I say skaters should drop the quad and go for the Double McTwist 1260 instead.Bushman of the Kohlrabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02195084346440543676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10962913706396194082010-02-19T08:49:25.134-06:002010-02-19T08:49:25.134-06:00“If the Olympic champion doesn’t know how to jump ...“If the Olympic champion doesn’t know how to jump a quad, I don’t know,” Plushenko said. “Now it’s not men’s figure skating, now it’s dancing.”<br /><br /><a href="http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35472232/ns/sports-olympic_sports/" rel="nofollow">I agree with him to a point, but usually in times like this it is better to be gracious.</a>Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87953859990303293582010-02-19T08:47:51.393-06:002010-02-19T08:47:51.393-06:00I think that there is something to be said for ele...I think that there is something to be said for elegance over athleticism, at least in figure skating.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402651457453813639noreply@blogger.com