tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7629999699465098540..comments2024-03-29T03:51:13.883-05:00Comments on Althouse: "The margin [of Prosser's victory] - 0.488% - is within the 0.5% limit that would allow Kloppenburg to request a statewide recount at taxpayers' expense."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66662892866251586292011-04-18T21:38:01.377-05:002011-04-18T21:38:01.377-05:00"... this is a test of character."
Reme..."... this is a test of character."<br /><br />Remember that dream everyone has where you show up for the final exam and suddenly realize that you've forgotten to go to class all semester?<br /><br />If it is truly a test of character, Klops is living that dream.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33168928461444190992011-04-17T21:59:05.370-05:002011-04-17T21:59:05.370-05:00Nothing but a test of their Al Franken "units...Nothing but a test of their Al Franken "units!"<br /><br />Kloppenhoppen probably lost by a greater margin. But nobody will find those votes!<br /><br />The democraps are just pissed off that the shortage showed up. And, they did everything possible in Milwaukee to chisel the amount down so that it came in under .5%.<br /><br />Cheaters. They probably piss into their beer, too.<br /><br />Does it matter?<br /><br />They're just "practicing" to see what they can get away with when 2012 rolls around.Carol_Hermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16629820011087370488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20096331558818808822011-04-17T14:50:21.830-05:002011-04-17T14:50:21.830-05:00Elinor, creating a fraudulent argument of hypocris...Elinor, creating a fraudulent argument of hypocrisy from thin air is not impressive logic.Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05699652902909032781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44871578937367349542011-04-17T13:20:51.628-05:002011-04-17T13:20:51.628-05:00Elinor,
My position is clear. There should have ...Elinor,<br /><br />My position is clear. There should have been a statewide recount in Florida in 2000. Kloppenburg should ask for a statewide recount in Wisconsin today. Had Prosser lost by 200 votes in the first official tally, he should have asked for a statewide recount.<br /><br />Recounts cost money, but so do elections. We spend the money because elections and recounts pay for themselves in the currency of legitimacy.<br /><br />(And recounts cost a lot less than the original election.)Roger Sweenyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12734128265493099062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10736151297843735192011-04-17T12:09:25.766-05:002011-04-17T12:09:25.766-05:00When the margin was ~200 votes, before a systemic ...When the margin was ~200 votes, before a systemic error was exposed, was the Prosser team getting ready to fund the then-inevitable recount? Maybe the right should work to overturn the rule that says the state will pay for any requested recount in close elections. But I happen to believe the state should pay, in either case, and in good faith, as it is the state's responsibility to at least attempt to guarantee that elections are free and fair. <br />You simply cannot deny that the Waukesha errors are serious and disturbing. What if the Dane clerk had forgotten to count Middleton? What would your position be then? Humans counted ballots all over the state; are they all infallible? <br />[Please try not to call me names if you respond to this. Concentrate on the actual issue -- an election for a state office with an evident human error where the difference is a slim margin within the threshold for a state-funded recount -- and not on me or either of the candidates personally. Thanks!]Elinor Ferrarshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07244080377072915498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62102168328087761612011-04-17T10:42:21.420-05:002011-04-17T10:42:21.420-05:00She is a DEMONcrat.
Thus ... Graciousness is beyo...She is a DEMONcrat.<br /><br />Thus ... Graciousness is beyond her.paul a'bargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08854004347728185047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34228208758092522682011-04-17T08:42:25.026-05:002011-04-17T08:42:25.026-05:00In 2000 I had hoped that the Bush and Gore campaig...In 2000 I had hoped that the Bush and Gore campaigns could have agreed to a full-state recount in Florida. It would have made the next eight years better.<br /><br />(And yes, I would want Prosser to request a recount if he had lost by less than 0.5% of the vote.)Roger Sweenyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12734128265493099062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1311403612700724942011-04-17T08:10:55.107-05:002011-04-17T08:10:55.107-05:00If there is no recount, many lefties will spend th...If there is no recount, many lefties will spend the next two years telling themselves that the election was stolen.<br /><br />If there is a recount, a lot of them will stop saying it. Those who continue to say it will look unattractive to most other people.Roger Sweenyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12734128265493099062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66190023910135976752011-04-17T07:01:11.061-05:002011-04-17T07:01:11.061-05:007K is probably too much to make up. Mostly, I'...7K is probably too much to make up. Mostly, I'd like to see a hand recount of Waukesha because it sounds like the clerk there has a long history of electoral irregularities. <br /><br />Also, anyone who trots out the chestnut, "The other side will do anything to win and we won't," no longer has anything of interest to say, ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58242630172324222312011-04-17T01:36:28.929-05:002011-04-17T01:36:28.929-05:00You are not likely to find 7,500 votes in a recoun...You are not likely to find 7,500 votes in a recount. However, I would not have expected a 7,500 vote counting error in the early reporting either.<br /><br />That said, as a strong liberal and democrat, it's time to move forward. She should indeed concede.Dose of Sanityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17958862556725762930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47614864635530039102011-04-17T01:32:02.316-05:002011-04-17T01:32:02.316-05:00Isn't that bad reasoning? If 0.488 is "c...Isn't that bad reasoning? If 0.488 is "close enough" that the same reasoning applies, why bother referencing 0.5? 0.488 should be the new ceiling.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13970112720764172104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42217411938015202662011-04-16T22:48:31.146-05:002011-04-16T22:48:31.146-05:00I would be happy with a concession. It need not be...I would be happy with a concession. It need not be gracious. After all, we won't have Kloppenpoodle to kick around any more.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17424384180201600935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21799272379986589532011-04-16T22:47:38.970-05:002011-04-16T22:47:38.970-05:00oogaoogaooga,
The answer is yes, the Republicans ...oogaoogaooga,<br /><br />The answer is yes, the Republicans would do just that - give a gracious speech and step down. That is what Nixon did in 1960 and he certainly had plenty of ways to contest that vote. Neither side was particularly clean in that one but the question of the votes in Chicago was really blatant. Yet Tricky Dick was man enough to give a gracious speech and step down. Too bad Gore did not have that much class or his reputation would be much better now than it is. He lost his own reputation because of his actions in Florida in 2000. Kloppenburg should indeed give a gracious speech and step aside. That way she might get back some reputation and be ready to fight another day.dickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08976498133597991337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82440425688512792952011-04-16T22:26:14.975-05:002011-04-16T22:26:14.975-05:00People were expecting Prosser to concede, of cours...<i>People were expecting Prosser to concede, of course, when he was behind by 204 votes.</i><br /><br />That's right. And the count wasn't even official. It was just what the Associated Press had reported it was. <br /><br /><i>And Prosser *is* a gracious person.</i><br /><br />A gracious person who, unlike Kloppenburg, does not seem prone to hasty judgements and conclusion jumping.Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00117933390338651739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8622473943803318332011-04-16T22:23:08.018-05:002011-04-16T22:23:08.018-05:00Wait a minute ... if Kloppenhoppen can steal more ...Wait a minute ... if Kloppenhoppen can steal more votes ... and for argument's sake ... let's say she's back to her 200-vote spread ... would that mean she's already given her acceptance speech? <br /><br />You know the numbers I'd like to see ... if there's a recount? Milwaukee's spread between Kloppenhoppen ... and ANYONE ELSE ON THE BALLOT! Why were ballots printed that had so much information on them ... if 18,000 ballots are counted for Kloppenhoppen that held only one checkmark?<br /><br />You go to vote ... You take a ballot ... and then ... you distain voting ... even in the mayor's race?<br /><br />Since the mayor's race was a hot one ... what's his totals? <br /><br />By 2012 ... the demon-rats should have a computer system that keeps a running total always ahead ... for Obama. <br /><br />Given that you can go to an ATM ... and press some buttons ... and get just the cash you requested ... How come banks are honest brokers ... and the election system is so corrupt?<br /><br />You mean to tell me people are supposed to be impressed that Prosser's lead suddenly fell short by .02% of a half vote?Carol_Hermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16629820011087370488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9468121544394479642011-04-16T21:50:33.725-05:002011-04-16T21:50:33.725-05:00Dimpled chads to pregnant chads- "intent"...<i>Dimpled chads to pregnant chads- "intent" of the voter is highly subjective</i><br /><br />But thats not what I'm talking about. <br /><br />I'm talking about changing the rules, day to day, depending upon how those rules help Al Gore net votes. A ballot with a tear and a 2 holes counts the day they are handcounting Gore undervotes, but then does not count the next day when they are handcounting counties that went for Bush.<br /><br />And they almost got away with it.<br /><br />Democrats suck.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36762402036649521672011-04-16T21:14:38.226-05:002011-04-16T21:14:38.226-05:00People were expecting Prosser to concede, of cours...People were expecting Prosser to concede, of course, when he was behind by 204 votes. <br /><br />And Prosser *is* a gracious person.Irenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00767121173408405839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85487884233969176312011-04-16T20:52:33.646-05:002011-04-16T20:52:33.646-05:00"...a test of character..."
Not bloody ..."...a test of character..."<br /><br />Not bloody likely, but go ahead.<br /><br />Surprise me.Greg Toombshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093911019916154110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27157131207456318432011-04-16T20:32:34.555-05:002011-04-16T20:32:34.555-05:00Come on, Ann - when she was asked to stop the vide...Come on, Ann - when she was asked to stop the videos and didn't, she defined her character. That's why I've focused on nothing else: we got to know everything we needed to understand about her in that single episode.<br /><br />She will request a recount, at taxpayer's expense, because that's who she is.<br /><br />Wisconsin dodged a bullet.The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59932251445718103312011-04-16T20:16:17.378-05:002011-04-16T20:16:17.378-05:00"If Prosser had been declared the loser by su..."If Prosser had been declared the loser by such a small percentage, would you really recommend he give a gracious speech and go away?"<br /><br />Yes.Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00117933390338651739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34412964479742112792011-04-16T20:09:00.888-05:002011-04-16T20:09:00.888-05:00Would you really be taking this position if the ta...Would you really be taking this position if the tables were turned? If Prosser had been declared the loser by such a small percentage, would you really recommend he give a gracious speech and go away?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35952675919104610282011-04-16T19:50:17.301-05:002011-04-16T19:50:17.301-05:00There is the letter of the law and the spirit of t...<i>There is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law, and this is a test of character. Ms. Kloppenburg would do well now to give a gracious concession speech.</i><br /><br />Well, I think we can all agree <i>that's</i> not going to happen.Chris Of Rightshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04710794462291764688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34353582928681236532011-04-16T19:10:45.060-05:002011-04-16T19:10:45.060-05:00What exactly makes you think Ms. Kloppenburg is ca...What exactly makes you think Ms. Kloppenburg is capable of graciousness?<br />These are people who bullied an 80-year-old woman in THEIR OWN PARTY.richard mcenroehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659450906647134430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77092220053333924592011-04-16T19:10:17.893-05:002011-04-16T19:10:17.893-05:00Is it me or will a costly recount simply add to th...Is it me or will a costly recount simply add to the deficit and force Walker to cut the budget somewhere else?<br /><br />Maybe that is what the liberals want: more ammunition for them, fingers to point.<br /><br />Makes you think that even winning is not what it's all about or even change.m stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04729579419783697340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3391920762613101182011-04-16T19:07:17.118-05:002011-04-16T19:07:17.118-05:00"And, yes, President Obama apparently turning...<i>"And, yes, President Obama apparently turning off credit card verification to allow foreign and corporate contributions after rejecting matching funds."</i><br /><br />It still galls me that he got away with such obvious fraud and corruption. Nobody cared!Kensingtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09745826428431759073noreply@blogger.com