tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7411746067834699587..comments2024-03-19T05:50:55.970-05:00Comments on Althouse: 66% of Americans think there's a conflict between rich and poor.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger135125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10061840547464651422012-01-13T07:38:53.023-06:002012-01-13T07:38:53.023-06:00Honestly, what is this "conflict" that 6...Honestly, what is this "conflict" that 66% believe exists?Ryan Costahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144956063066925955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12287846251491505292012-01-13T07:01:59.525-06:002012-01-13T07:01:59.525-06:00I don't believe Republican's story. I know...I don't believe Republican's story. I know plenty of bosses, good ones and bad ones. A boss living that lifestyle while committing fraud is unlikely to also treat his employees badly as that makes them likely to report him to the IRS. <br /><br />You may find the occasional bad man who lives like that, but he almost never gets to live like that for long.Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31084640534092031272012-01-13T03:42:00.918-06:002012-01-13T03:42:00.918-06:00Here's the blog post, Mike:
You're in it....Here's the blog post, Mike:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.themachoresponse.com/crackMC/wordpress/?p=9269" rel="nofollow">You're in it.</a>The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48528115334953496202012-01-13T00:10:22.238-06:002012-01-13T00:10:22.238-06:00Michael,
Crack. Romney is pretty lame, as close a...Michael,<br /><br /><i>Crack. Romney is pretty lame, as close as one could get to the miserable McCain in terms of bland. Newt, unfortunately, caused the closing of the Washington zoo for a few hours a couple of decades ago and for that he cannot be dogcatcher. Newt turning against the business record of Romney is pretty unforgivable.</i><br /><br />No it isn't - it's perfectly understandable if you're not infected by spin and stay in touch with reality. I'ma do a blog post on that, because it's a great topic, considering how easily people have bought the current conventional wisdom. For now, just keep your other idea in mind:<br /><br /><i>Newt, unfortunately, caused the closing of the Washington zoo for a few hours a couple of decades ago and for that he cannot be dogcatcher. </i><br /><br />That's all you really need to know, right there,...The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61804308099329048652012-01-12T21:09:47.627-06:002012-01-12T21:09:47.627-06:00Republican,
Anyone who continues to work for your...Republican,<br /><br />Anyone who continues to work for your ex-boss is accepting his offer. There must be soemthing in it for them. If I treated my employees like that, I'd lose most, if not all, of them. I give them all those benfits plus they all got raises last year and quarterly bonuses for every single employee. Still, I had a few blatantly steal substantial amounts from me and the rest of us there. <br /><br />Without gratitude you will suck as a boss OR an employee, and you will be unhappy, rich or poor. It sounds like your ex-boss is trying hard to fill in a hole in himself that wealth cannot address. I'm not surprised by that. <br /><br />I drive a pick up truck and rarely travel or vacation, because I'm fricken ecstatic just the way I am: greatful.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43388784735536223132012-01-12T19:40:18.458-06:002012-01-12T19:40:18.458-06:00Crack. Romney is pretty lame, as close as one coul...Crack. Romney is pretty lame, as close as one could get to the miserable McCain in terms of bland. Newt, unfortunately, caused the closing of the Washington zoo for a few hours a couple of decades ago and for that he cannot be dogcatcher. Newt turning against the business record of Romney is pretty unforgivable. <br /><br />Romney, had he more carisma, more spunk, would have said that he loved firing the unproductive and replacing them with better more hard working employees. He should have said that the American people cannot act fast enough to fire Barack and his team and replace them with competents.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08258681007386089907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91536410255328994152012-01-12T19:33:41.888-06:002012-01-12T19:33:41.888-06:00Republican. "they" do not all do it. The...Republican. "they" do not all do it. The boss you described was engaging in illegal activity which no conservative would approve of, especially the rich ones. There are surely tax cheats and the description you give is of criminal behavior which you should have alerted the authorities to. "They" generally got rich by following the rules, not getting ripped every night, staying on course and not engaging in criminal actions. Employees who stay with a boss like you describe are clearly fairly paid or they would go elsewhere. Or they are unskilled and stuck.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08258681007386089907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56654831692228114712012-01-12T19:26:02.247-06:002012-01-12T19:26:02.247-06:00My former boss's statistics:
Lives in $750k ho...My former boss's statistics:<br />Lives in $750k home<br />Drives 2011 Cadillac :Wife=2012 Mercedes SUV<br />Owns Miami Beach condo:$650K and keeps "old" 2010 Cadillac at condo<br />Vacations 4x year Miami; Vegas 2x; Europe 1x; +SF, LA, NY trips<br /><br />His employees: No raises in 6 years; no paid vacation; no retirement plan, health insurance, paid sick days.<br /><br />He keeps 2 sets of books, under/reports to the IRS, games every tax loophole and insurance system he can,and screws the employees out of nickels and dimes.<br /><br />How does he get by with it? Because: The business world is full of like-minded business owners who admire him for his "success" and work with him. THEY ALL DO IT. He practically acts as a consultant in advising how to lie, cheat and steal your way to financial success.<br /><br />Embarrassed? Shamed? No! He sees himself as being smart. Savvy.<br /><br />And when anyone rumbles about increasing taxes on the wealthy, guess who complains?<br /><br />I think THESE are the kinds of "rich" people everyone is thinking about when we discuss conflict.<br /><br />The rich like him, really are NOT doing the right thing. They're staying rich because they exploit the poor who work for them, and exploit govt loopholes (JUST LIKE WELFARE TYPES) to keep from even paying what they should be paying. They aren't losing their homes or doing without health insurance, etc etc.Republicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491719380160028389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70501184052792017092012-01-12T19:25:45.145-06:002012-01-12T19:25:45.145-06:00Garage, because Moody's prognosis of Wisconsin...Garage, because Moody's prognosis of Wisconsin's fiscal condition is more important than your assertion (wish?) that "Wisconsin unfortunately is sucking wind".Calypso Factohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01455217189407301218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77552918169967353572012-01-12T18:55:32.218-06:002012-01-12T18:55:32.218-06:00"Wealth is contagious if you just make yourse..."Wealth is contagious if you just make yourself a welcome host."<br /><br />Infect me! Infect me!Palladianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01105490715666718993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91284984122075136692012-01-12T17:47:28.000-06:002012-01-12T17:47:28.000-06:00Calypso
I don't know how that Moodys release f...Calypso<br />I don't know how that Moodys release from last May reaffirming our bond rating had anything to do with Walker or the budget that hadn't even been passed yet.garage mahalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485491995866513686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37878262637805050442012-01-12T17:42:37.245-06:002012-01-12T17:42:37.245-06:00"Easy and lucrative" are relative terms....<i>"Easy and lucrative" are relative terms. Public employment is lucrative if you're of average or below-average ability.</i><br /><br />Well a quote from Ghostbusters sums that up:<br /><br />Dr Ray Stantz: Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of college! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect *results*.Hoosier Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12872965118921894534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70384420011968879102012-01-12T17:36:55.520-06:002012-01-12T17:36:55.520-06:00GM:Hasn't really worked out that way yet has i...GM:<i>Hasn't really worked out that way yet has it? </i><br /><br />Actually it has:<br /><br /><i>Moody’s wrote that the Aa2 general obligation bond rating “reflects the state’s improved liquidity position…as well as the fully funded pension system.” They note that “the state’s ability to make progress toward structural budget balance and improve its liquidity and fund balances will be important to future credit analyses.”</i>Calypso Factohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01455217189407301218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13867897857641734602012-01-12T17:36:23.548-06:002012-01-12T17:36:23.548-06:00"And how does making unions re certify every ..."And how does making unions re certify every year save the state money, or make it healthier? I'm guessing unions sniffed this bullshit out a long time ago."<br /><br />And the Fleeing 14 guaranteed that particular element would get passed when they heading south instead of picking off a Republican or two here and there to get rid of some of these secondary elements. The essential bill would have passed, but without elements like this.TosaGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08520232078421382322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4596096829456710302012-01-12T17:35:11.968-06:002012-01-12T17:35:11.968-06:00Well, I bet these rich folks are angry.Well, I bet<a rel="nofollow"> these rich folks</a> are angry.Phil 314https://www.blogger.com/profile/04133300763922742206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18467832975341308532012-01-12T17:25:57.164-06:002012-01-12T17:25:57.164-06:00I want rich people's money. Because I can'...I want rich people's money. Because I can't get it, I get angry.<br /><br />Therefore there is more conflict between the rich and poor.Phil 314https://www.blogger.com/profile/04133300763922742206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60141087962093834872012-01-12T16:41:29.429-06:002012-01-12T16:41:29.429-06:00This goes to the heart of my debate with some abou...This goes to the heart of my debate with some about Newt Vs. Mitt:<br /><br />Some perceive Newt to be a loose cannon, so they believe he would be a bad president. None of which explain the reality of his political accomplishments, which go far beyond any of his opponents.<br /><br />On the other hand, they perceive Mitt as being steady, which they believe will make him a good president. Except, in reality, he doesn't have the accomplishments to show for it and has been running a losing campaign for over a decade.<br /><br />Perceptions and beliefs are getting in the way of reality, which some seem determined to change - putting the perception of the best man ahead of the actual one - just as they did for Obama.<br /><br />It's a recipe for disaster - again.The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43702302316055755642012-01-12T16:38:34.618-06:002012-01-12T16:38:34.618-06:00I'm no billionaire, but I consider myself rich...I'm no billionaire, but I consider myself rich and I was pondering just last night why that is. I was born poor, never inherited anything, and never even got a college degree. Sure I worked hard and long, but so do a lot of people, and that alone would not have done it.<br /><br />I finally distilled it down to primarily being highly trust worthy. <br /><br />I basically proved to a series of people, with far more than I had, that I could be trusted 100% with their assets. I did it by working and performing well for them and always being impeccably honest. Also borrowing from the rich and always paying them back with interest. Eventually I had a long record of that to where I could get people to give me money, business, or their hard work and dedication for no other reason than their own self-interest, because they know they can trust me to make it worth while and not waste their investment.<br /><br />In short, to become rich, I think you need: 1) to be highly trusted and 2) know someone who is already richer than you and who wants to get richer.<br /><br />I never even tried to get wealthy. I was just taking reasonable risks with reliable payoffs when they were available. Always making sure I could keep my promises. <br /><br />Wealth is contagious if you just make yourself a welcome host.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83502260413846479262012-01-12T16:34:33.799-06:002012-01-12T16:34:33.799-06:00There is a war between the rich and poor,
a war be...There is a war between the rich and poor,<br />a war between the man and the woman.<br />There is a war between the ones who say there is a war<br />and the ones who say there isn't.<br /><br />- L. CohenHazy Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15205671948883857573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47714025105428803232012-01-12T16:28:27.152-06:002012-01-12T16:28:27.152-06:00"Perceptions" and "beliefs."
..."Perceptions" and "beliefs." <br /><br />They mean nothing. This article says nothing.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.themachoresponse.com/crackMC/wordpress/" rel="nofollow">When will people learn?</a>The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78447443260451664462012-01-12T16:25:38.531-06:002012-01-12T16:25:38.531-06:00If people believe class warfare exists, then does ...If people believe class warfare exists, then does not class warfare, in some sense, exist?<br /><br />Class warfare has no objective existence. Marx tried to objectify it by turning it into the engine of history. He failed.<br /><br />Class warfare is one of those most dangerous of concepts: its very reality depends upon belief. We can make it real by simply believing it to be real.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31546195288842038462012-01-12T16:23:48.375-06:002012-01-12T16:23:48.375-06:00Because they realize a fiscally healthy state gove...<i>Because they realize a fiscally healthy state government is better for their long-term employment?</i><br /><br />Hasn't really worked out that way yet has it? Wisconsin unfortunately is sucking wind after Walker's budget was enacted. <br /><br />And how does making unions re certify every year save the state money, or make it healthier? I'm guessing unions sniffed this bullshit out a long time ago.garage mahalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485491995866513686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50755975214419437862012-01-12T16:21:33.583-06:002012-01-12T16:21:33.583-06:00"Because they realize a fiscally healthy stat...<i>"Because they realize a fiscally healthy state government is better for their long-term employment?"</i><br /><br />This public employee supports the changes because a fiscally healthy state government is better for everybody.Original Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714345479248980398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30453169062094716122012-01-12T16:03:17.874-06:002012-01-12T16:03:17.874-06:00GM:I would be shocked if any union member, public ...GM:<i>I would be shocked if any union member, public or private, votes Republican in those kind of numbers this year. Why would they?</i><br /><br />Because they realize a fiscally healthy state government is better for their long-term employment?<br /><br />and: <i>"Nobody would notice if bankers took the day off, but this state couldn't function without just snowplow drivers on a day like today."</i><br /><br />I know that state workers were required to take furlough days every month thanks to Gov. Doyle, but I never ran into a situation where I personally noticed the absence...Calypso Factohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01455217189407301218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17058039376182901842012-01-12T15:58:25.241-06:002012-01-12T15:58:25.241-06:00sloanasaurus said: If we start taking that freedom...sloanasaurus said:<i> If we start taking that freedom away for some nebulus issue such as equality, then everyone will eventually lose their freedom.</i><br /><br />"People who aim for equality before liberty, will end up with neither equality nor liberty" Milton Friedman<br /><br />Equality before the law, not equality of outcomes, fosters the individual effort that drives an economy.Calypso Factohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01455217189407301218noreply@blogger.com