tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post6955769922748519853..comments2024-03-29T05:01:52.320-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Tony Scalia's Retirement Has Started Early."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger130125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36627734349871034552012-04-02T16:11:11.387-05:002012-04-02T16:11:11.387-05:00Recognizing that in today's environment facts ...Recognizing that in today's environment facts just don't matter, I foolishly weigh in on the Charlie Pierce quote ‘If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.’ HOLD ON. The truth is that Pierce was employing irony in the service of a breathtakingly vicious putdown of Kennedy, in the midst of a profile that was far, far tougher than the Kennedys are accustomed to receiving in the Globe. The Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto, an honest conservative, accurately described what Pierce had written as a “paragraph of pure poison.” And a letter-writer to the Globe Magazine divined that Pierce had written “a savage attack” on Kennedy. Just thought you should have the rest of the story.Patrick Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17172442693831616163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39441231364390255282012-04-01T16:03:27.323-05:002012-04-01T16:03:27.323-05:00To me the Cornhusker Kickback is a great example o...To me the Cornhusker Kickback is a great example of how the legislative process should work. It was so odious and made such bad press that it was stripped from the bill. Fix the bill in Congress, not in SCOTUS. We have the most dysfunctional health care system in the industrialized world - no coverage for preexisting conditions or part time workers, low lifetime limits, 50M without coverage etc,etc. Heaven forbid we try to make it work a little better using a sane republican (30 to 10 years ago) market mandate formula.Marthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03369769032056391126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47928078239019011032012-04-01T15:50:08.947-05:002012-04-01T15:50:08.947-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09467253761627809697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53946372826339939562012-03-30T23:25:04.036-05:002012-03-30T23:25:04.036-05:00joyess, you are calling someone a liar when you ar...joyess, you are calling someone a liar when you are too clueless to understand the issue at all.<br /><br />When the legislation was initially passed, it then included the provision. It was removed by subsequent legislation. So the use of it as a hypothetical in the original passage was valid.<br /><br />You are the ignorant one.Cincinnatushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10424218376882403880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10494218488308176602012-03-30T16:25:40.070-05:002012-03-30T16:25:40.070-05:00Hey Domikesc,
First, I agree Kagan should recuse ...Hey Domikesc,<br /><br />First, I agree Kagan should recuse herself. Second, I agree it was criminally naive for ACA supporters to suppose they could convince such obvious idealogues as Scalia, Thomas, and Alito- which makes us both right, I guess. Third, the 'Cornhusker kickback' is NOT in the bill under consideration by the court, so knock it off already. Fourth, neither one of us is arguing the legal merits of this case: I'm questioning the intellectual honesty of movement conservatives; you're questioning...exactly what?<br /><br />We think Obama is brilliant? Nooo, the conservative scholars on the Harvard Law Review enthusiastically joined their liberal brethren to elect Obama editor of said review. Can't blame that one on affirmative action, chum.<br /><br />Look, no one forced you folks to swoon and moon over Dubya, Screeching Sarah, and this season's crop of brain-dead Republican candidates. You couldn't wait to let the rest of us know just how seriously we should consider all these frauds and malcontents. You farted; don't blame us for smelling it.hum'n'mumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10576371675030922944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90500895692831671222012-03-30T15:18:14.174-05:002012-03-30T15:18:14.174-05:00Calling a man of Italian ancestry "Tony"...<i>Calling a man of Italian ancestry "Tony" when that isn't his nickname? Isn't that on the level of calling a Latino "Jose" or a black man "Leroy" (or some such stereotypical name)?</i><br /><br />Only if the Latino or black man has a name that one would typically shorten to "Jose" or "Leroy", but chooses not to do so.<br /><br />It's not like Scalia's first name is Guiseppe or Mario or even Frank.<br /><br />It's Antonin.<br /><br />Which <i>does</i> normally shorten to Tony - it's the same root name as Anthony, Antonio, etc., all of which shorten in normal American usage to "Tony" quite readily.<br /><br />So the "Leroy" equivalence is more like calling someone who really is named Leroy "Roy", despite him not going by "Roy".<br /><br />The problem with the name is familiarity (ie, "being familiar", as in "anti-formal"), not bigotry.Sigivaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152366541957466049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9881838546625562292012-03-30T14:36:27.154-05:002012-03-30T14:36:27.154-05:00You're not very good at reading.
You're...<i>You're not very good at reading.</i> <br /><br /><br />You're not very good at writing.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916566252965436234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52907688434931612102012-03-30T14:28:01.529-05:002012-03-30T14:28:01.529-05:00Ann?
This: We know that the Cornhusker kickback ...Ann? <br /><br />This: <b>We know that the Cornhusker kickback — AKA the Nebraska Compromise — was a deal made by Harry Reid to get the vote of Senator Ben Nelson, the last hold-out among the Democrats. The state of Nebraska got 100% funding for Medicaid, unlike all the other states, so that extra funding to Nebraska approaches vote-buying.</b><br /><br />Now we know that not only are you a drunk blogger, but that you're a lying one as well.<br /><br />http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35940777/ns/politics-health_care_reform/t/cornhusker-kickback-gets-boot-health-bill/#.T3YI745xXUjjoeyesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00175577351325680966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80668660397675008772012-03-30T13:06:00.762-05:002012-03-30T13:06:00.762-05:00Being an instructor and an outstanding school, I&#...<i>Being an instructor and an outstanding school, I'm rather shocked that ideas of metaphor have been lost on you.</i><br /><br />You are not an instructor nor are you an outstanding school. Therefore, this sentence is utterly terrible. You are sentenced to repeat eighth grade or else pay a fine.Seven Machoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16108141171592424635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75098340746094888122012-03-30T12:36:09.925-05:002012-03-30T12:36:09.925-05:00Your argument against Pierce's is so ridiculou...Your argument against Pierce's is so ridiculous it falls on its face. First, trying to glean some anti-Italian bias out what he said is laughable. Because he noted that Scalia's carelessness is operatic that is you smoking gun. Being an instructor and an outstanding school, I'm rather shocked that ideas of metaphor have been lost on you. Had you considered that by referring to opera, Pierce was remarking on the over-the-top nature of Scalia's Not-Give-A-Fuckness, rather than some veiled anti-Italianism. <br />Similarly, you admonish the headline for referring to him as Tony--again suggesting that it is somehow a marker of anti-Italian bigotry. Had he called Scalia Guido, you might have a case, but Tony is popularly derived from Antonin. You correctly point out that Scalia does not refer to himself as "Tony" but that merely shows that Pierce has no regard for Scalia as a justice, and probably as a person, but it has no relation to your fantastical implications of bigotry. (and the anti-Catholic canard is merely playing into the popular right-wing horse manure that somehow, in a nation in which the VAST majority of people self-identify as christian, christians are somehow persecuted. I know you want to be, but it just isn't the truth.)<br /><br />Finally, to the business of the so-called Cornhusker Kickback, it is a stupid point to make in the hearing because that provision didn't even make it into the final bill! So, Scalia bringing it up has nothing to do with judging the constitutionality of the bill in question; rather he is showing himself to be more interested in belching out talking points that he heard on the radio.<br /><br />So, in sum, Pierce was merely pointing out that Scalia is a disingenuous, overly-partisan hypocrite who should probably retire since it's clear that he does not have the slightest interest in his job anymore, preferring to grandstand and show that he is merely an egomaniacal bully.Sethy Go Bragh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/10880429922719461836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37151727054576155582012-03-30T12:13:22.497-05:002012-03-30T12:13:22.497-05:00phx said...
"You guys are obsessed by this ...phx said... <br /><br />"You guys are obsessed by this smartness stuff."<br /><br />I just get a kick out of hearing it from the left... since I have an iq over 145.... and most leftists I talk to can not explain their views outside of simplistic 'republicans are mean' type arguments...SHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01995326486815143436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18227361266426780062012-03-30T11:44:07.951-05:002012-03-30T11:44:07.951-05:00You guys are obsessed by this smartness stuff.
Ye...<b>You guys are obsessed by this smartness stuff.</b><br /><br />Yes, it's CONSERVATIVES who routinely comment on how brilliant their candidates are while discussing how idiotic their opponents are.<br /><br />Happens all of the time.<br /><br /><b>Intellectual penis envy, from the home-schooled mob that thinks Newt has big ideas, Ryan is a misunderstood genius, and Scalia's broccoli analogy (a Teabag favorite) is a masterstroke of legal polemics.</b><br /><br />As opposed to the side who were convinced that John Kerry was really, really bright; that Obama was brilliant; that no SCOTUS justice could possibly have an actual problem.<br /><br /><b>Maybe one of you geniuses might want to remind your fearless, clueless leader that the so-called Cornhusker kickback NEVER made it to the final bill- it ain't there, and is utterly irrelevant.</b><br /><br />It was passed, signed, and repealed later.<br /><br />But, yes, it made it to the final bill.<br /><br /><b>Honest citizens (and jurists, too!) can honestly disagree about the ACA's constitutional standing. But, when one conservative justice's wife is a well-paid political operative for those working to strike down this bill, and at least 2 other conservative justices enjoy weekend retreats and quiet dinners with the plutocrats who are cynically spending millions to defeat the ACA, the fix is in. </b><br /><br />...meanwhile, one of the justices personally worked on the defense of the bill, another was busy in session assisting the SG make arguments. <br /><br />But that isn't a problem.<br /><br /><b>The reflexive- and, frankly, wretchedly executed- posturing from Ms. Outhouse and other right wing gossoons is little more than a sour joke.</b><br /><br />I notice you didn't actually provide any legal justification of the Congress creating commerce in order to regulate it.<br /><br />I am sure you'll get to it soon enough.damikeschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133230009952160269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39466214121570028542012-03-30T11:16:44.490-05:002012-03-30T11:16:44.490-05:00Goodness, the Dittoheads are offended. Once again,...Goodness, the Dittoheads are offended. Once again, we see self-styled conservatives braying about how smart their guy is. Intellectual penis envy, from the home-schooled mob that thinks Newt has big ideas, Ryan is a misunderstood genius, and Scalia's broccoli analogy (a Teabag favorite) is a masterstroke of legal polemics.<br /><br />Honest citizens (and jurists, too!) can honestly disagree about the ACA's constitutional standing. But, when one conservative justice's wife is a well-paid political operative for those working to strike down this bill, and at least 2 other conservative justices enjoy weekend retreats and quiet dinners with the plutocrats who are cynically spending millions to defeat the ACA, the fix is in. <br /><br />The reflexive- and, frankly, wretchedly executed- posturing from Ms. Outhouse and other right wing gossoons is little more than a sour joke.hum'n'mumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10576371675030922944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26129998803306201882012-03-30T05:47:10.496-05:002012-03-30T05:47:10.496-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19778631120018865912012-03-30T02:48:51.156-05:002012-03-30T02:48:51.156-05:00Once gay marriage will come to the Supreme Court A...Once gay marriage will come to the Supreme Court Althouse will comment, "yes Scalia has a very good point about the gays and Seabiscuit". I support gay marriage, Althouse will say, but what about the gay doing dogs=Scalia makes and excellent point and he is the best most amazing judge ever....but I am a demo-I voted for Obama.<br /><br />But Scalia is totally right about the gays and man on dog sex.<br /><br />As a result, my entire audience is totally wingnut and I thank you for your patronage. Now buy the new Ipad idiots.<br /><br />And unemployed, protester loving husband go videotape something fast that will allow our readers to be outraged.<br /><br />Disgusting and totally boring/<br /><br />Is this what your retired life is going to be? How fun.Titushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09505398901816313803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-904196671239087122012-03-30T02:13:42.591-05:002012-03-30T02:13:42.591-05:00I guess that this Charles Pierce is not to be conf...I guess that this Charles Pierce is not to be confused with "Charles Sanders Peirce (September 10, 1839 – April 19, 1914) ... born at 3 Phillips Place in Cambridge, Massachusetts. ... An innovator in mathematics, statistics, philosophy, research methodology, and various sciences, ... As early as 1886 he saw that logical operations could be carried out by electrical switching circuits, the same idea as was used decades later to produce digital computers." from Wikipedia<br /><br />I see no reason to think any further about this Charles Pierce as he is a blithering idiot.Fat Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09554029467445000453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88492145797392715552012-03-30T00:23:54.350-05:002012-03-30T00:23:54.350-05:00phx said...You guys are obsessed by this smartness...<i>phx said...You guys are obsessed by this smartness stuff</i> <br /> <br /><br /><br />You're not very good at picking up on mockery.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916566252965436234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54978739928104899252012-03-30T00:23:38.351-05:002012-03-30T00:23:38.351-05:00hum n mum, so evidently you are not paying any att...hum n mum, so evidently you are not paying any attention to the real issues either. You just cough up slogans and name calling to gloss over the fact that Scalia's point went over your head too.<br /><br />We get no seriousness at all from the left.Cincinnatushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10424218376882403880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8006879127781148962012-03-30T00:20:49.182-05:002012-03-30T00:20:49.182-05:00An example would be nice.
How about Stanley F...<i>An example would be nice. </i> <br /> <br /><br />How about Stanley Fish, American literary theorist and legal scholar. Not some anonymous crank on a blog, in other words.<br /><br />A snippet from his essay "Two Cheers For Double Standards". (As if the title alone does not tell you all you need to know)<br /><br /><i>I know the objections to what I have said here. It amounts to an apology for identity politics. It elevates tribal obligations over the universal obligations we owe to each other as citizens. It licenses differential and discriminatory treatment on the basis of contested points of view. It substitutes for the rule "don't do it to them if you don't want it done to you" the rule "be sure to do it to them first and more effectively." It implies finally that might makes right. I can live with that.</i> <br /> <br />And yet we still have to put up with liberals scoffing at the notion that liberals sometimes do as they say and are utterly cynical about double standards.Qhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00916566252965436234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41164286482706735812012-03-30T00:19:07.381-05:002012-03-30T00:19:07.381-05:00Ms. Althouse you just fail to perceived what a gre...Ms. Althouse you just fail to perceived what a great man Charles P. Pierece is. Why he's been a working journalist since 1976--and he has erudite reasoning (fully on display in his most recent blog post) and keen logic with a razor sharp wit.<br /><br />That at least is what you might think from reading a promotional blurb for one of his new books. In its knob slobbering grandeur, it can only have been written by Ta Da! You guessed it--Charles P. Pierce. Here it is.<br /><br /><br /><br />The Culture Wars Are Over and the Idiots Have Won<br /><br />A veteran journalist's acidically funny, righteously angry lament about the glorification of ignorance in the United States.<br /><br /><br />In the midst of a career-long quest to separate the smart from the pap, Charles Pierce had a defining moment at the Creation Museum in Kentucky, where he observed a dinosaur. Wearing a saddle.... But worse than this was when the proprietor exclaimed to a cheering crowd, “We are taking the dinosaurs back from the evolutionists!” He knew then and there it was time to try and salvage the Land of the Enlightened, buried somewhere in this new Home of the Uninformed. <br /><br />With his razor-sharp wit and erudite reasoning, Pierce delivers a gut-wrenching, side-splitting lament about the glorification of ignorance in the United States, and how a country founded on intellectual curiosity has somehow deteriorated into a nation of simpletons more apt to vote for an American Idol contestant than a presidential candidate. <br /><br />With Idiot America, Pierce's thunderous denunciation is also a secret call to action, as he hopes that somehow, being intelligent will stop being a stigma, and that pinheads will once again be pitied, not celebrated. <br />. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />.Comanche Voterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05329190305833193353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43062895229703516702012-03-29T23:42:13.068-05:002012-03-29T23:42:13.068-05:00Well, is not his given christian name Antonin: Ni...Well, is not his given christian name Antonin: Nickname would be Tony or Anthony. Now if his given christian name were Robert or Joseph...Then yes! I would think given his stature, not referring to him as Associate Justice should be more offending. And more offending is how all of these Justices allow their clerks to stove pipe them information...Cornhusker kickback. Or perhaps they don't live in that bubble that we fantasise them to be. Indeed!Eisaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01997784149379018520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61227471699920035152012-03-29T23:41:08.301-05:002012-03-29T23:41:08.301-05:00Scalia spewed all manner of Teabag talking points
...<i>Scalia spewed all manner of Teabag talking points</i><br /><br />Hilarious. On so many levels. But I think the utter lack of self-awareness demonstrated by the writer is the most sublime.<br /><br />Also, the Cornhusker Kickback was in the bill that was passed, and it was later repealed. But preach on, dude. Preach on. Amuse me.Seven Machoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16108141171592424635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81860299865166323752012-03-29T23:15:14.512-05:002012-03-29T23:15:14.512-05:00Maybe one of you geniuses might want to remind you...Maybe one of you geniuses might want to remind your fearless, clueless leader that the so-called Cornhusker kickback NEVER made it to the final bill- it ain't there, and is utterly irrelevant.<br /><br />Of course, Scalia spewed all manner of Teabag talking points, in an effort to undermine the arguments for the ACA. The point is, he displayed the kind of intellectual dishonesty and legal dissembling reminiscent of a Mob lawyer. Brilliant he may be, but he is a dreadful example of jurisprudence subordinated to ideology, and a disgrace to the fundamental American idea of an independent federal judiciary. <br /><br />Somewhat off topic, but not really: Scalia has repeatedly revealed himself to be a nasty piece of work, given to sarcasm and scorn. Not really ideal qualities in any jurist, but in a Supreme Court Justice it actually demeans the whole character of the Court.<br /><br />And- Althouse trying to take down Pierce? Really??!! You're a couple of hundred re-incarnations short of that task, Dearie.hum'n'mumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10576371675030922944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30240137040848399002012-03-29T23:03:29.569-05:002012-03-29T23:03:29.569-05:00As a noble man, more honorable than I can fathom, ...As a noble man, more honorable than I can fathom, Justice Scalia's retirement started, in a sense, when Justice Thomas <a href="http:/www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/29/110829fa_fact_toobin" rel="nofollow">took command</a> of the court's ethos.<br /><br />Were Justice Scalia average or even only above average, ego and pride would prevent him from changing his long-held views on basic concepts such as (undue) respect for precedent. <br /><br />Because Justice Thomas, using the court system the only way logic could allow him to, has been so influential, America will remain a country of ungrateful 1%ers bitching about everything that's wrong.<br /><br />The ying/yang associated with constant bitching being the reason why America is so influential, and not liking bitching, is something to celebrate.Guildofcannonballshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10352588747567045751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89703639088212502892012-03-29T22:55:17.295-05:002012-03-29T22:55:17.295-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.com