tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post6270016372226275603..comments2024-03-28T03:13:37.212-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Barack Obama in his old community organizer role," doing "what community organizers do... rub people's emotions raw to hype their resentments."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger244125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84621367175285354732012-10-10T14:11:19.018-05:002012-10-10T14:11:19.018-05:00It's like the adult version of the playground ...It's like the adult version of the playground - "you better talk nice to me or else".<br /><br />Shame on you Althouse, shame!Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205752419540502278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30214074505186821122012-10-10T14:08:20.529-05:002012-10-10T14:08:20.529-05:00"Conservatives need to learn how to talk to m...<i>"Conservatives need to learn how to talk to moderates and liberals, and they especially need to learn how to not feel repulsive and toxic to us."</i><br /><br />Perhaps you should re-examine your underlying premise, namely that someone other than you is responsible for how you "feel".<br /><br />Advocating for a more effective or civil tone in communication is one thing... blaming others for your own emotional processing of speech is another thing entirely.<br /><br />Assuming the thrust of your statement was more closely aligned with the desire for more civil speech: shouldn't that standard apply symmetrically? Do you believe that you apply it in that manner?VekTorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884547607158702582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69777177775342616182012-10-10T12:39:12.543-05:002012-10-10T12:39:12.543-05:00So, Obama the us-vs.-them racist was okay. But Oba...So, Obama the us-vs.-them racist was okay. But Obama the lying politician wasn't?<br /><br />As always, I'm mystified at trying to understand the principles of you squishy moderates...Dr. Horriblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09966646520091924382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75006534422220966102012-10-10T12:11:31.690-05:002012-10-10T12:11:31.690-05:00Funny...the Media Matters piece certain of the Oba...Funny...the Media Matters piece certain of the Obama-apologists are pointing to actually make the guy look worse than Sowell's straight reading. <br /><br />Obama's Senate votes threw the people of New Orleans under the bus to score political points against Bush's Iraq surge.<br />mrkwonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02532828603942498515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48045893587772289332012-10-10T11:41:09.524-05:002012-10-10T11:41:09.524-05:00Didn't Obama bring up his faith in Christ in t...Didn't Obama bring up his faith in Christ in this same "sermon" at Hampton U? With the same mouth he praises his God and utters blasphemies.Joe C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02760654843607411683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80475884367807737712012-10-10T11:19:23.165-05:002012-10-10T11:19:23.165-05:00Ann
You weren't listening, or else you didn&#...Ann<br /><br />You weren't listening, or else you didn't watch on Hannity. Tucker Carlson stated this fact on air. (But Hannity went off in his own direction as usual--I rarely watch him anymore.)<br /><br />Many of your commenters mentioned it as well. I even called Obama's behavior a form of oppression.Sylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03069871911665125873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13725866572827055592012-10-10T10:39:29.140-05:002012-10-10T10:39:29.140-05:00Althouse, I agree with the advice to learn how to ...Althouse, I agree with the advice to learn how to speak to liberals and moderates. But therein lies the problem. <br /><br />Most people really don't know what is going on in other peoples' heads. It's like speaking to an entirely different culture. That's why so many assumptions are made about you hereabouts. They can't track with your reasoning or your assumptions or your influences, so how could most people know what would actually be helpful? <br /><br />Someone like Sowell, however, is in your world. He's an academic and he was, it seems, quite a liberal in his earlier years. He's a conservative now but really gets the mindset--so can really zero in on the key issues that someone like you would find convincing, because they're the issues he finds convincing. Paddy Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10442537362540160512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53354135794142902162012-10-10T10:31:26.683-05:002012-10-10T10:31:26.683-05:00C'mon Garage, what Obama did was indefensible....C'mon Garage, what Obama did was indefensible.<br /><br />Romney would be an idiot to raise the issue. <br /><br />While I don't think there's a "liberal conspiracy" in the press, there is no doubt that on some issue, especially race, that there is a liberal view that dominates among the reporters. They're simply not going to report on this.<br /><br />This tells us something about Obama the man, doesn't it? He's a pretty cynical person. Yeah, they're all cynical but sometimes it goes too far.<br /><br />This is an example of it.Steve M. Galbraithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01728237625873443198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9420719637308282812012-10-10T10:30:11.517-05:002012-10-10T10:30:11.517-05:00Did I ever tell you how I hate reasonable people?
...<i> Did I ever tell you how I hate reasonable people?</i><br /><br />Heh- no one likes reasonable people when they are pissed. Honestly, I don't either. ;)Carolinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11577584676839171856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47355636935397002142012-10-10T10:27:29.320-05:002012-10-10T10:27:29.320-05:00Milt Freidman and Thomas Sowell are both very good...Milt Freidman and Thomas Sowell are both very good a talking to people who disagree with them. It's a extraordinarily difficult thing to do consistently. Most folks find people who disagree them maddening, especially since their opponents almost never change their minds.<br /><br />Yours,<br />TomTom DeGisihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809757971111266101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-965697699757891352012-10-10T10:24:12.823-05:002012-10-10T10:24:12.823-05:00I must have missed this. The last I read she was b...<i>I must have missed this. The last I read she was blaming conservatives for her error,</i><br /><br />Well, yes, there is that. It was lazy writing on my part. I commend her specifically for recognizing that there is a point to airing the video, other than "ugly" pandering to racists, as she initially suggested. I agree that blaming the communication skills of conservatives for her initial negative response is not a convincing argument.Carolinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11577584676839171856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1082549703214669972012-10-10T10:14:48.168-05:002012-10-10T10:14:48.168-05:00The Daily Caller did a lousy job of its revelation...<i>The Daily Caller did a lousy job of its revelation. The fact Sowell highlights -- so clear and so devastating -- completely transforms the story for me.</i><br /><br />I can't remember a more intellectually lazy statement than this.<br /><br />It is not the Daily Caller's job to do your thinking for you. Through out all of this, your loyal commenters have done overtime work to communicate with you. And through it all you have called them ... wait for it ... ugly.<br /><br />Ugly. Right. <br /><br />Within 8 hours all of us had access to the fact that Obama had voted against the New Orleans bill. 8 hours. You on the other hand persisted in your weasel way to insult those who would hold Obama accountable to the same standard of decency to which everyone else is held accountable.<br /><br />It's beyond pathetic. It is in fact without a shred of common human decency.<br /><br />You want to see <b>Ugly</b>, Althouse?<br /><br />Look in the freakin' mirror. <br /><br />For a change.<br />paul a'bargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08854004347728185047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86059238617122436762012-10-10T10:00:21.760-05:002012-10-10T10:00:21.760-05:00hope the glass has been shattered for you, Profess...hope the glass has been shattered for you, Professor. time to become a decided voter.Real Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07457301904108193495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87268036751328686492012-10-10T09:59:53.823-05:002012-10-10T09:59:53.823-05:00I wrote this under the Conor Friedersdorf post:
&...I wrote this under the Conor Friedersdorf post:<br /><br />" Jane said...<br /><br /> This tape bothers me because it shows a man who ought to know better, LYING.<br /><br /> By January 2007, six months before Obama’s Hampton speech, the federal government had sent at least $110 billion to areas damaged by Katrina. This was more than five times the money that the Bush administration pledged to New York City after 9/11.<br /><br /> The federal government did at times waive the Stafford Act during its New Orleans reconstruction efforts. On May 25, 2007, just weeks before Obama’s speech, the Bush administration sent an additional $6.9 billion to Katrina-affected areas with no strings attached.<br /><br /> 10/3/12 9:09 AM"Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13508187195788782780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30706399013092484052012-10-10T09:35:33.480-05:002012-10-10T09:35:33.480-05:00bit slow on discovering this vote, aren't you?...bit slow on discovering this vote, aren't you?miss jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795338449779246342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53838325722917163682012-10-10T08:49:49.585-05:002012-10-10T08:49:49.585-05:00In my view, that's the discussion we ought to ...<i>In my view, that's the discussion we ought to be having. And it means leaving a lot of the failed leftist thought process behind, in my view.</i><br /><br />It may mean leaving behind a good chunk of baby boomer mentality; it may be a job for an entirely different generation of people.chickelithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10773887469972534979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49739407747487865532012-10-10T08:22:57.786-05:002012-10-10T08:22:57.786-05:00JL said...
She has owned up to it, which is comme...<i>JL said... <br />She has owned up to it, which is commendable.</i><br /><br />I must have missed this. The last I read she was blaming conservatives for her error, an odd stance from someone routinely condescending to others who complain about not being spoonfed.<br />testhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09478829894294731159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28925977065896779832012-10-10T08:00:03.811-05:002012-10-10T08:00:03.811-05:00J.L.:
It's not fair to expect anyone to be ri...J.L.:<br /><br /><i>It's not fair to expect anyone to be right 100% of the time. We all have our biases and sensitivities, which will at times cloud our judgement. </i><br /><br />Did I ever tell you how I hate reasonable people? (Yes, a lot of irony in there, because I accept your basic point, and see the reflection in my own "biases".)<br /><br />I wonder, though, whether there is a resistance on Ann's part to give up on her race view of the world. My problem with the Obama video isn't so much what he personally did, as Crack pointed out, it's pretty much to be expected from a person of his Background. And from his relationship with Rev. Wright, and even his own wife ("first time I'm proud of my country"), is to be expected.<br /><br />However, how much longer must we kowtow to these racial concerns? And I would ask Ann, what makes you think the current practices are anything but destructive to the very people they are purported to help?<br /><br />In my view, that's the discussion we ought to be having. And it means leaving a lot of the failed leftist thought process behind, in my view.Dantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07393170116669470751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76700444262896101372012-10-10T07:51:25.497-05:002012-10-10T07:51:25.497-05:00Tyrone Slothrop said...
The Crack Emcee said...
T... Tyrone Slothrop said...<br />The Crack Emcee said...<br /><br />Thomas Sowell was my choice for president.<br /><br /><br />He wouldn't run. He's too nice, honest, respectable.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88737106784484890122012-10-10T07:33:24.124-05:002012-10-10T07:33:24.124-05:00Inga said...
Jay, "fat Allie"? I'm ...<i>Inga said... <br />Jay, "fat Allie"? I'm fat at 135 pounds and 5'6"? <br /></i><br /><br />HA HA HA HA <br />HA HA HA HA <br />HA HA HA HA <br />HA HA HA HA Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34042427706223811242012-10-10T07:25:19.345-05:002012-10-10T07:25:19.345-05:00I think Sowell's first paragraph applies here:...I think <a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/10/09/phony_in_chief/page/full/" rel="nofollow">Sowell's first paragraph</a> applies here:<br /><br /><i>"When President Barack Obama and others on the left are not busy admonishing the rest of us to be "civil" in our discussions of political issues, they are busy letting loose insults, accusations and smears against those who dare to disagree with them."</i><br /><br />Getting smeared by the likes of Chris Matthews is no big deal, but it really hurts when coming from someone I respected.<br /><br />- I think that's a reason why there has been such a reaction to Ann's "ugly" comment.Joseph of FPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11844234781315866470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52224925923272382192012-10-10T07:18:59.340-05:002012-10-10T07:18:59.340-05:00If it were a story it would be a story and you can...<i>If it were a story it would be a story and you can bet Romney would already be pushing it. But outside the lizard brain demographic there is no 'there' there. And Sowell wouldn't feel the need to lie about it to get his point across.</i><br /><br />Denial is fun to watch from a distance, especially when it includes projection.gerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07865564381083435425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43243010454031228402012-10-10T07:16:16.596-05:002012-10-10T07:16:16.596-05:00Althouse's draw to me and I suspect others is ...<i>Althouse's draw to me and I suspect others is that she is straight-forward and dealing with facts.</i><br /><br />That; and I admire her for candidly telling us how she feels, and subjecting herself to criticism for that candor. <br /><br />It's not fair to expect anyone to be right 100% of the time. We all have our biases and sensitivities, which will at times cloud our judgement. RE: the Obama video- Althouse had a knee-jerk response to what she perceived as a racist ploy on the part of the GOP, that prevented her from getting a message that people w/o her racial sensitivity were able to see right away. She has owned up to it, which is commendable.<br /><br />Now if she would just go back to being the woman who coined the term "civility bullshit", instead of chiding the conservatives who got angry at her when she pulled the race card on them, I'd shut up. I didn't read the pushback commentary to her race posts, so I can only guess that some of it must've been unpleasant. But it's not surprising. Race is a touchy subject, and pulling the race card on people who've had it thrown at them daily for the past four years is bound to elicit some ugly responses.Carolinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11577584676839171856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57481521087657137312012-10-10T06:11:38.418-05:002012-10-10T06:11:38.418-05:00Cripes, what is the subject of the verb to feel in...<i>Cripes, what is the subject of the verb to feel in that sentence?<br /><br /></i>To [not] feel is an infinitive; it's not functioning as a verb in that sentence, so it doesn't have a subject.<br /><br />The rest of your post makes a good point.campyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188668300381722712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8010952117063108632012-10-10T05:51:18.992-05:002012-10-10T05:51:18.992-05:00Conservatives need to learn how to talk to moderat...Conservatives need to learn how to talk to moderates and liberals, and they especially need to learn how to not feel repulsive and toxic to us.<br /><br /><br /><br />Hmmmmmm............nope. I don't.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.com