tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post6189465318355444969..comments2024-03-29T05:01:52.320-05:00Comments on Althouse: An awful lot of what seems like scientific information about nutrition deserves to be called "nutritional folklore."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger97125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5375008556316536482014-04-24T23:26:33.561-05:002014-04-24T23:26:33.561-05:00I've been brainwashed by Big Vegetable.I've been brainwashed by Big Vegetable.Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44668096244859586462014-04-24T23:25:57.473-05:002014-04-24T23:25:57.473-05:00I enjoy making no one likes vegetables jokes. I wi...I enjoy making no one likes vegetables jokes. I will admit, however, that when I went grocery shopping tonight I bought green beans, Brussels sprouts, mixed greens, carrot juice, kale, corn, and broccoli.Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33846084736831752732014-04-24T20:38:40.795-05:002014-04-24T20:38:40.795-05:00"water is free" ?? here in california, w..."water is free" ?? here in california, we pay a fairly hefty price for it. (not to mention all of the taxes, sewer fees, etc. that are tacked onto the bill.) el polackohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13265451503377552500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10139891331459809232014-04-24T10:31:49.780-05:002014-04-24T10:31:49.780-05:00Regular fruits and vegetables may not have any spe...Regular fruits and vegetables may not have any special benefits for health and nutrition, but thank God for the "organic" variety with its superior benefits, all of which are documented by extensive and incontrovertible evidence. When it comes to organic produce--not to mention all the other "natural" foods--the science is settled.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21331770468119210252014-04-24T08:47:28.652-05:002014-04-24T08:47:28.652-05:00dietary science as reported in the news contribute...<i>dietary science as reported in the news contributes to the general skepticism the public has for science, since so much of science is reported the same way.</i><br /><br />It speaks well of the members of the public who are skeptical of the claims of science--all science, not just nutritional science; in this respect, at least, they're acting as real, competent scientists do.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41893333605006545302014-04-24T07:08:19.787-05:002014-04-24T07:08:19.787-05:00I didn't realize that the only reason to eat f...I didn't realize that the only reason to eat fruits and vegetables was to stop cancer. stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05644362748723516825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71051724299336396592014-04-24T06:25:44.186-05:002014-04-24T06:25:44.186-05:00Ann said: "I don't think there are any re...Ann said: "I don't think there are any real nutrition deficiency problems in the United States, so the main problem seems to weight control."<br /><br />The two are somewhat related. The body seeks first to meet caloric needs related to body mass, basic metabolic rate, and activity level. <b>The body <i>also</i> seeks to meet its mineral needs and will trigger a hunger response even when caloric needs have been met.</b><br /><br />I call them "starving fatties" and the condition is a function of poor mineral content in many of the foods people choose to eat. Remember, only 20% of the population consumes more than 100 grams of vegetables and fruits (combined) on a daily basis.<br /><br />The same problem exists with cattle, horses and other livestock. I kept my hogs lean and growing well by offering them all the vegetables and alfalfa they'd eat, along with their regular grain.<br /><br />Horses will "crib" (gnaw on wood) if they're phosphorus-deficient, even if they're fat. The soil on this farm is phosphorus-rich and in the old horse barn (built in 1866) there's not a trace of cribbing, even though it housed six horses for over 80 years.<br /><br />Again, I could offer a lot more examples. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80851343163589489632014-04-24T00:00:09.443-05:002014-04-24T00:00:09.443-05:00Ann - you claim there are no real nutritional defi...Ann - you claim there are no real nutritional deficiencies in the US, but I got diagnosed with a severe Vit-D deficiency(dangerously low) a few months ago without me even realizing it. In fact I suspect most Americans are Vit-D deficient because they don't get tested.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205752419540502278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18170778847477513452014-04-23T23:23:15.900-05:002014-04-23T23:23:15.900-05:00From Genesis 4:
Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, a...From Genesis 4:<br /><br /><i>Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a worker of the ground. In the course of time Cain brought to the Lord an offering of the fruit of the ground, and Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions. And the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering, but for Cain and his offering he had no regard.</i><br /><br />God created vegetables, and even He doesn't like them.Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78587267514620126792014-04-23T20:59:18.191-05:002014-04-23T20:59:18.191-05:00Oops, Bill beat me to it.Oops, Bill beat me to it.Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26073782446294975622014-04-23T20:58:50.008-05:002014-04-23T20:58:50.008-05:00broccoli - a little bit of olive oil, some kosher ...broccoli - a little bit of olive oil, some kosher salt, and a hot grill. turn over when a little bit charred.<br /><br />Heaven on earthRecChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08332736695988953550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18477152828705795802014-04-23T20:58:23.401-05:002014-04-23T20:58:23.401-05:00But drinking water doesn't satisfy the physica...<i>But drinking water doesn't satisfy the physical desire to eat something, to use your teeth to crunch something down.</i><br /><br />"What do you mean there's nothing you can eat? Why, you can eat as many bowls of crunchy leaves as you'd like! ... What's wrong? Where are you going? Was it something I said?"Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6788302660808791742014-04-23T20:56:18.518-05:002014-04-23T20:56:18.518-05:00All this badgering about eating lots of fruits and...<i>All this badgering about eating lots of fruits and vegetables, all the cabbage and broccoli we've been pressured to buy and wash and cut up and cook and choke down!</i><br /><br />Don 't forget Arugula and PeasRecChiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08332736695988953550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10897256986192974702014-04-23T20:55:16.680-05:002014-04-23T20:55:16.680-05:00This was already covered in Woody Allen's Slee...<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFJopF6WJNw" rel="nofollow">This was already covered in Woody Allen's Sleeper.</a>Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7699150502158045492014-04-23T20:48:56.632-05:002014-04-23T20:48:56.632-05:00As of this moment about 419 are lying in this onli...As of this moment about 419 are lying in this online poll.Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54597749501673135092014-04-23T20:47:48.339-05:002014-04-23T20:47:48.339-05:00Veggies are OK as long as you put enough salt, lar...Veggies are OK as long as you put enough salt, lard, or butter on them. Use real butter, or lard, or bacon grease. Otherwise you just making yourself miserable for no reason.<br /><br />When I was a kid, my parents put mayonnaise on veggies to get me to eat them.ken in txhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345764031059905578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13270313922241924752014-04-23T19:37:16.872-05:002014-04-23T19:37:16.872-05:00Many people in this thread are talking about how s...<i>Many people in this thread are talking about how salad fills you up. So does a big glass of water (and that's free and palatable without adding 200 calories of dressing).</i><br /><br />You're right, and I often drink a glass of water before I eat a meal as a way to control overeating as well. But drinking water doesn't satisfy the physical desire to eat something, to use your teeth to crunch something down. Bircheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00045640752795693223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34800613637958968012014-04-23T18:13:41.383-05:002014-04-23T18:13:41.383-05:00"Even if there's no evidence of one healt..."Even if there's no evidence of one health benefit doesn't mean there isn't health benefits of another kind. And similarly, just as we should take the scientific information, so too should we take the refutations of the scientific information with a grain of salt. It too could be based on shoddy science and asserting things not based on the full record."<br /><br />This is the way people talk when they are not being scientific. It's the bullshit one hears about alternative medicine, aliens, ghosts, etc. etc.<br /><br />Now, it's true we must eat, and there's a question what should we eat. I don't think there are any real nutrition deficiency problems in the United States, so the main problem seems to weight control. <br /><br />Many people in this thread are talking about how salad fills you up. So does a big glass of water (and that's free and palatable without adding 200 calories of dressing).Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32698739020556614642014-04-23T17:33:54.605-05:002014-04-23T17:33:54.605-05:00An epidemiologist is a scientist who studies peopl...An epidemiologist is a scientist who studies people broken down by age or sex.<br /><br />What are you broken down by?West Texas Intermediate Crudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12329818542280388890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2331157063843631362014-04-23T17:31:24.039-05:002014-04-23T17:31:24.039-05:00"You're still doing folklore! "This ..."You're still doing folklore! "This healthier food"… there's no evidence of "healthier." <br /><br />Even if there's no evidence of one health benefit doesn't mean there isn't health benefits of another kind. And similarly, just as we should take the scientific information, so too should we take the refutations of the scientific information with a grain of salt. <br />It too could be based on shoddy science and asserting things not based on the full record. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14840639910131265762014-04-23T17:27:45.819-05:002014-04-23T17:27:45.819-05:00This by the way is true of much science, including...This by the way is true of much science, including global warming science, and even evolutionary science. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35748181948162411412014-04-23T17:26:26.147-05:002014-04-23T17:26:26.147-05:00The funny thing about this is that I get a bunch o...The funny thing about this is that I get a bunch of so called alternative health newsletters. And they have been saying that fat isn't bad, and that fruit needs to be taken in moderation because of the sugar. <br />jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47468842226318393332014-04-23T16:29:26.215-05:002014-04-23T16:29:26.215-05:00"Nutritution," Ann?"Nutritution," Ann?Michelle Dulak Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18041391162535875301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32524870813647800042014-04-23T16:26:20.070-05:002014-04-23T16:26:20.070-05:00Only 267 people in the entire United States know h...<i>Only 267 people in the entire United States know how to prepare brussels sprouts properly.</i><br /><br />Fry them in butter with garlic and bacon.Gahriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16795449308207016641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30764412376014039282014-04-23T16:25:11.492-05:002014-04-23T16:25:11.492-05:00Paul Brinkley,
"I think the public would ben...Paul Brinkley,<br /><br />"I think the public would benefit in general from an updating of education in science in general. Not the usual physics / chemistry / biology pallet, but the deeper stuff - math, logic, critical thinking, plus practical lab work and demonstrations of how to apply the scientific method."<br /><br />In this country, where most people I encountered treated the "Blood Moon" as a quasi-mysitical event, good luck with THAT. We're about 2,000 years behind, thanks to religion, and trying to steer the ship back on course is only done in the face of obstruction. <br /><br />I've tempered my idealism. Considering the force of ignorance - especially as it applies to the 350 years of slavery's horror vs. 50 years of not that, so let's forget about it, equation - only blunt objects are applicable. Benevolently boxing us in. <br /><br />That's the conclusion being reached after a recent study on anti-vaccine types. No amount of evidence can make them stop endangering their kids, and the rest of us, so vaccines are on their way to becoming mandatory. It'll happen in other areas of life as well. Under close inspection, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/30/magazine/recycling-is-garbage.html" rel="nofollow">recycling will be outlawed</a> eventually, and Whole Foods will be seen <a href="http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.edu/blog/145226/10/11/21/whole-foods-safety-sucks-they-care-%E2%80%A6" rel="nofollow">for the joke it is.</a> Society, restructured for creative productivity, would have to <a href="http://edzardernst.com/2014/04/question-how-do-chiropractors-earn-their-daily-bread-answer-all-too-often-by-being-economical-with-the-truth/" rel="nofollow">eat a lot of crow</a> to get there, but it will. <br /><br />Religious types of all stripes will scream, but, I - for another - welcome a few facts being, finally, nailed down for a change.<br /><br />But, especially, as pertains to slavery,...The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.com