tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post6146253121943131119..comments2024-03-28T14:25:25.193-05:00Comments on Althouse: Let's get jacked up over jacking up taxes on "nonparents."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86149020059065392112014-04-01T22:05:29.573-05:002014-04-01T22:05:29.573-05:00Beer drinkers? Tax 'em! "
Geez Jim don&#...Beer drinkers? Tax 'em! "<br /><br />Geez Jim don't give the bastards any ideas! Wait a sec, ObamaCare is a tax on non-activity. That means everyone who doesn't pay sin taxes because the don't participate in these activities should be taxed for their non-activity. It's only fair. Why should these people deprive the governments- federal, state and local of their fair share of revenue? cubanbobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03746305669005611456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29112205793326536782014-04-01T21:58:17.086-05:002014-04-01T21:58:17.086-05:00Worse is self-employment tax.
That's just the...Worse is self-employment tax.<br /><br />That's just the employers' half of your SS tax, which everybody pays but the other-employed don't realize it.<br /><br />A slight advantage is that the employers' half doesn't count as income, but they equalize that by making the SE tax deductible.<br /><br />So there's no difference working for yourself or working for somebody else, taxwise."<br /><br />Really? Wanna piss off every employee in America change the FICA employer tax portion to a salary bump to the employee and let the employee pay the 15.9% FICA tax and to further turn the screw bump up the employee for the unemployment tax and let the employee pay that as well. cubanbobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03746305669005611456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35563506357942761102014-04-01T19:55:19.464-05:002014-04-01T19:55:19.464-05:00At least for me, having kids is its own reward. M...At least for me, having kids is its own reward. More taxes, fewer taxes, neither one would have influenced the number of kids I chose to have.Tyrone Slothrophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12304508836038921013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3854375912604306542014-04-01T17:35:20.977-05:002014-04-01T17:35:20.977-05:00"working the one tractor in the community gar...<i>"working the one tractor in the community garden.<br /><br />Electric, right?</i><br /><br />Wind.Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08403113111574246294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78709372998063161692014-04-01T16:48:36.372-05:002014-04-01T16:48:36.372-05:00I think no one should have 80 million and if they ...I think no one should have 80 million and if they have it they should be beheaded. I have 60 millionjr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11391914217475477242014-04-01T16:17:59.577-05:002014-04-01T16:17:59.577-05:00Rosanne said nobody should have more than 100 mill...Rosanne said nobody should have more than 100 million dollars. She is only worth in the neighborhood of 80 million. Not just that they shouldn't have it, but if they did, they should be beheaded.<br /><br />http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/multimillionaire-rosanne-barr-behead-rich/tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55391211731068789162014-04-01T15:40:38.484-05:002014-04-01T15:40:38.484-05:00Jim wrote:
Make too much money? Tax 'em!
The...Jim wrote:<br />Make too much money? Tax 'em!<br /><br> <br />The best example of this hypocrisy was Roseanne who said that rich people should be reeducated and decapitated if they didn't agree to turn over the funds (don't remember her exact quote but it was close this) Rich people being people who earned more than her. Even though by all standards she is filthy rich.<br /><br />So, her idea of rich fat cat is those who earn more than she. Those are those ones that need to face the guillotine. She's one of the common people. her and her multimillions. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22465370817118278072014-04-01T15:33:43.545-05:002014-04-01T15:33:43.545-05:00If you're rich and feel that rich people aren&...If you're rich and feel that rich people aren't paying enough in taxes do your part and pay more in taxes. Simple.<br />Don't wait for govt to come up with the optimal levels, pay your fair share because its' the right thing to do. <br /><br />Kristen Bell was one of those actresses demanding that the rich pay more. So pay more.<br />And to echo cuban bob, if you're calling for higher taxes, then your taxes should go up, especially if you're rich. So, lets look at Kristen. How much did she make on Veronica Mars. Lets assume she made a million just for round numbers sakes.<br /><br />Is 85% of taxes on that movie fair for her? So, she can still keep a hundred and fifty thousand. That might still be high since the average salary is 32,000. So, how about twice the average salary. The rest goes to taxes.<br />Is Kristen ok with that? I Certainly think its fair. <br />So, if she doesn't pay that amount voluntarily we should just take it from her. For the greater good Kristen. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87722780526656846312014-04-01T15:27:34.440-05:002014-04-01T15:27:34.440-05:00You want to get into what's really outrageous?...You want to get into what's really outrageous? How about the fact that it can cost tens of thousands to adopt a kid in this country, and then of course wait years to get the kid. In a country where there are so many awful parents who have no business raising kids, the idea that we discourage adoption to such an extent is appalling and offensive.<br /><br />You want to improve the next generation? Do something about that. Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219319435229314554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26405743908919396052014-04-01T15:16:52.676-05:002014-04-01T15:16:52.676-05:00So there's no difference working for yourself ...<i>So there's no difference working for yourself or working for somebody else, taxwise.</i><br /><br />It makes the marginal tax rate on extra work explicit. If a parent with a full time job works overtime, the tax implications are hugely different than if an otherwise full-time parent picks runs a part-time personal business.Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14520113896946845614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34753879151760346142014-04-01T14:17:17.186-05:002014-04-01T14:17:17.186-05:00As others have mentioned, the Child Tax credits ar...As others have mentioned, the Child Tax credits are already very, very generous to those of us who are inclined to have more than one child...<br /><br />I feel sorry for married people who don't get the tax benefits of having children in some ways. It's immoral how much more they pay than those of us who have children. Some successful friends of ours were paying 40% of their income to taxes after maxing out their 401Ks. They were saving up for in vitro. But they found it more cost effective to have the wife quit her job BEFORE she got pregnant to save more money. There's something wrong with that.Bircheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00045640752795693223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54928861365170479122014-04-01T13:58:33.600-05:002014-04-01T13:58:33.600-05:00Worse is self-employment tax.
That's just the...<i>Worse is self-employment tax.</i><br /><br />That's just the employers' half of your SS tax, which everybody pays but the other-employed don't realize it.<br /><br />A slight advantage is that the employers' half doesn't count as income, but they equalize that by making the SE tax deductible.<br /><br />So there's no difference working for yourself or working for somebody else, taxwise.rhhardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06901742898653890646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69820803975279807652014-04-01T13:39:38.531-05:002014-04-01T13:39:38.531-05:00More than anything, I'm amused at the outrage ...More than anything, I'm amused at the outrage of the Slate readers who otherwise are perfectly happy to "jack up" taxes on any behavior/citizen who they deem to have behaved in a way they have decided is socially unacceptable.<br /><br />Smokers? Tax 'em!<br />Beer drinkers? Tax 'em!<br />Liquor drinkers? Tax 'em!<br />Wine drinkers? Well, no. Wine is civilized and it has health benefits, you see.<br />Make too much money? Tax 'em!<br />Vote the wrong way! Tax 'em!<br /><br />But, when the "tax it if we don't like it" mentality comes falling down the second that these childless narcissists (speaking of Slate readers, not all childless people) might themselves have to pay.<br /><br />I agree that taxing behavior or choices is wrong. But if we're going to play the game, then why shouldn't it apply to the choice to have children or not? If we're going to be in the business of deciding "fair" and "not fair" by penalizing citizens with the tax code, then there really isn't any limit to what "should" or "shouldn't" fall into that category.<br /><br />Either get out of the business of the government declaring winners and losers through tax code oppression or accept the consequences.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17143782473850677784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54364986258955829622014-04-01T13:30:30.702-05:002014-04-01T13:30:30.702-05:00I think this taxing the childless will become more...I think this taxing the childless will become more of a battle cry as the shortfall in Social Security and Medicare starts to squeeze the country more. The first cuts to benefits will be to the never had children group. mcculloughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03168402889404727565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49547401705991683152014-04-01T13:25:54.893-05:002014-04-01T13:25:54.893-05:00Freeman
I don't know if you itemize your ded...Freeman <br /><br />I don't know if you itemize your deductions, but local property taxes are deductible on federal income taxes (and some state income taxes). <br /><br />Also, can't your boys play on the school sports teams if they're home schooled? You can get some value from that.<br /><br />mcculloughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03168402889404727565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68215389820696860972014-04-01T13:25:38.249-05:002014-04-01T13:25:38.249-05:00working the one tractor in the community garden.
...<i>working the one tractor in the community garden.</i><br /><br />Electric, right?gerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07865564381083435425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63680795143589336502014-04-01T13:18:52.583-05:002014-04-01T13:18:52.583-05:00I'm for a simpler tax code, so I'd oppose ...I'm for a simpler tax code, so I'd oppose this.<br /><br />One logical point in favor that I didn't see the author making (I skimmed quickly so apologize if I missed it) is that the current structure of FICA taxation is unfair to parents. The future generation pays the way for the retirees, so if a couple invests in raising children then they've contributed a hell of a lot more than childless couples do. So maybe a simple way to accomplish what the author wants to do would be to eliminate SS benefits and reduce Medicare benefits for people who reach retirement age without having "contributed" any new wage earners to the system.CStanleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13467496850893922521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27083820881696302642014-04-01T12:58:33.299-05:002014-04-01T12:58:33.299-05:00Interesting; I've understood "jack up&quo...Interesting; I've understood "jack up" as raise the price of something; I guess if you consider "government" a product, it might fit. I've used & heard "jacked up" as broken for the past prob. 15 years. So I looked up (online):<br /><br />"jack up"<br /><br />1.To raise, hoist, or lift a thing using a jack, or similar means. <br /><br />2.(informal) To raise, increase, or accelerate; often said of prices, fees, or rates. <br /><br />3.(colloquial) To ruin; wreck; mess up; screw up; sometimes as a bowdlerized substitution for fuck up. <br /><br />4.(obsolete, transitive and intransitive, dialect, West England and Australia) To give up; to abandon (something); to jig up, throw up, chuck up (give up, concede); to discontinue; to leave a job, break a contract; to jack in <br /> <br />5.(New Zealand) To organise something.<br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00159064831659071944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61358653097187359282014-04-01T12:48:47.941-05:002014-04-01T12:48:47.941-05:00jimbino said...
We who have forgone breeding...<i> jimbino said...<br /><br /><br /> We who have forgone breeding are helping solve global warming.</i><br /><br />Hysterical.<br /><br />Very good April Fools Day post!Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29826815476729967292014-04-01T12:46:50.719-05:002014-04-01T12:46:50.719-05:00who became so impassioned over how evil human bein...<i>who became so impassioned over how evil human beings are </i><br /><br />A good portion, perhaps a majority, of leftists feel this way about humanity.Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20346212389342635442014-04-01T12:37:15.763-05:002014-04-01T12:37:15.763-05:00"Years ago I got into a disturbing conversati..."Years ago I got into a disturbing conversation with someone who became so impassioned over how evil human beings are that he declared that the nuclear holocaust — which he was certain was coming — ought to come soon because we deserved it! "<br /><br />Didn't that guy go on to write the script for Noah?Jim Gusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521913514595091124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73158819224803986072014-04-01T12:33:33.492-05:002014-04-01T12:33:33.492-05:00As far as I am concerned, those of you who remain ...As far as I am concerned, those of you who remain childless are welcome to the services provided by the generation of children I contributed to, as you age.<br /><br />As for the idea that Americans should commit some kind of voluntary genocide because "Amerikan" kids are worthless drags on the planet. Well, evolution will forget them as it always has forgotten the childless. That is how evolution works. It is not always about being able to outrun a tiger.<br /><br />tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42627324658880872372014-04-01T12:30:25.379-05:002014-04-01T12:30:25.379-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jim Gusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03521913514595091124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72334377944154951772014-04-01T12:24:02.425-05:002014-04-01T12:24:02.425-05:00Let's see Social Security and Medicare taxes a...Let's see Social Security and Medicare taxes are paid by those employed under the age of retirement as a form of payback for those who raised them. Following Slate's logic those who choose to be childless should continue to pay those FICA taxes as a payback but shouldn't receive those benefits at retirement since they are having kids to payback for them. cubanbobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03746305669005611456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57716273195123890112014-04-01T12:22:23.014-05:002014-04-01T12:22:23.014-05:00I wonder if, in a hundred years or so, they will h...I wonder if, in a hundred years or so, they will have museums dedicated to these non breeders. Kind of like the Shaker museums that live on after the non-breeding shakers died off?tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.com