tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post580202109817566107..comments2024-03-19T05:50:55.970-05:00Comments on Althouse: Obama — trying to be "careful" — addresses the Trayvon Martin killing.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger198125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12784415106267608972012-03-24T23:55:13.864-05:002012-03-24T23:55:13.864-05:00SukieTawdry said...
“Are you kidding me? The vict...SukieTawdry said...<br /><br />“Are you kidding me? The victim's race has everything to do with the furor over the crime, if indeed a crime has been committed, which the Panthers (who have offered a $10,000 reward for Zimmerman's "capture"), Farrakhan, Jackson, Sharpton and any number of others assure us had everything to do with the victim's race. The president was more subtle, but he, too, injected race when it was unnecessary to do so. None of this would be going on if Martin weren't black.”<br /><br />I’ve read over the transcript of the 911 call Zimmerman made before shooting Martin. He stated that Martin looked like he was up to no good and that he was on drugs or something. What did Zimmerman mean by this? How did he know if Martin was on drugs or not?<br /><br />The 911 dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following Martin to which Zimmerman replied that he was. The 911 dispatcher told him not to do that. Why did Zimmerman elect to continue pursuit and engage? Was he looking for a confrontation?<br /><br />Don’t you think if the Sanford Police had done an actual investigation that these questions would have been answered? And if these questions had been answered do you really think this case would have been elevated to the national level and involved Obama?<br /><br />“And if any of the above actually cared to concern themselves about what went down in Chicago last week, they would talk about it. It would have been elevated to the national level. So, why hasn't it? Because Hispanic and black gang-bangers shooting each other up doesn't fit the narrative of black America under attack by white America which is the narrative that must be served and includes the proposition that "stand your ground" and voter ID laws are by their very nature racist and must be repealed.”<br /><br />Have the names and the life stories of the 17 people who were murdered in Afghanistan by the U.S. soldier who went berserk, many who were children, been discussed in the news? Why not I wonder?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53638645504906589022012-03-24T22:02:36.864-05:002012-03-24T22:02:36.864-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80310890863634125052012-03-24T21:44:06.578-05:002012-03-24T21:44:06.578-05:00Why do you point out that the victim was black? Wh...<i>Why do you point out that the victim was black? What does his race have to do with the crime?</i><br /><br />Are you kidding me? The victim's race has everything to do with the furor over the crime, if indeed a crime has been committed, which the Panthers (who have offered a $10,000 reward for Zimmerman's "capture"), Farrakhan, Jackson, Sharpton and any number of others assure us had everything to do with the victim's race. The president was more subtle, but he, too, injected race when it was unnecessary to do so. None of this would be going on if Martin weren't black.<br /><br />And if any of the above actually cared to concern themselves about what went down in Chicago last week, they <i>would</i> talk about it. It <i>would</i> have been elevated to the national level. So, why hasn't it? Because Hispanic and black gang-bangers shooting each other up doesn't fit the narrative of black America under attack by white America which is the narrative that must be served and includes the proposition that "stand your ground" and voter ID laws are by their very nature racist and must be repealed.<br /><br /><i>"Our disparities are great," said [Jackson]. "Targeting, arresting, convicting blacks and ultimately killing us is big business."</i>SukieTawdryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219517365750894110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12038246870494304012012-03-24T20:59:36.930-05:002012-03-24T20:59:36.930-05:00Just curious, but has Obama commented on any of th...<i>Just curious, but has Obama commented on any of the murders of the hundreds of black teenagers killed - mostly by other black teenagers - since he's been prez?</i><br /><br />Aye, the rub.Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4185100127965936362012-03-24T19:04:51.416-05:002012-03-24T19:04:51.416-05:00SukieTawdry said...
“So the real tragedy here is ...SukieTawdry said...<br /><br />“So the real tragedy here is not that Martin is dead but that Zimmerman still walks free? Is Aliyah Shell's family's loss and grief mitigated because arrests have been made?”<br /><br />As I stated, my understanding of the issue with the case in Sanford is that Zimmerman has not been arrested or charged with any crime. Not that there isn’t grief being felt for Martin, Aliyah Shell or any other family of someone who has been killed.<br /><br />“Obama expressed no opinion about whether Zimmerman should be arrested. He said he was speaking strictly as a parent.”<br /><br />Yes, of course, he should not comment on the specifics of the case while an investigation is underway. That is to be expected.<br /><br />“Why should "all of us as Americans" search our souls to "figure out why something like this happens"? Why is it "absolutely imperative" that every aspect of this particular case be investigated? Why is this so worthy of our serious attention while 10 dead and 39 wounded in Chicago is not even worth mentioning? Why should I care about this one black teenager when hundreds of black teenages are mown down every year? Why is this one death a tragedy while 10 are merely a statistic? What is it that makes Trayvon Martin so much more special than Aliyah Shell? I would like very much for Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan and all the rest to explain it to me.”<br /><br />Not all those cases in Chicago that you mentioned have been elevated to the national level so I wouldn’t expect Obama to comment on each individually.<br /><br />Why do you point out that the victim was black? What does his race have to do with the crime?<br /><br />As far as your question as to why this one death is a tragedy while 10 are merely a statistic, who stated that the other 10 deaths are not tragedies? Obama made no such claim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63901107694573467852012-03-24T18:13:11.852-05:002012-03-24T18:13:11.852-05:00"he was forced"
lol. Keep apologizing f..."he was forced"<br /><br />lol. Keep apologizing for your boyfriend you voted for in 2008.<br /><br />I'm not sure if it's the blond, the woman, or just the stupid in you that keeps you providing cover for the clown.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15009598552883370732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36541681366751458222012-03-24T17:18:41.390-05:002012-03-24T17:18:41.390-05:00So the real tragedy here is not that Martin is dea...So the real tragedy here is not that Martin is dead but that Zimmerman still walks free? Is Aliyah Shell's family's loss and grief mitigated because arrests have been made? <br /><br /><i>“I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this,” Mr. Obama said. “All of us have to do some soul searching to figure out how does something like this happen.”</i><br /><br /><i>“I think [Trayvon's parents] are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves, and we are going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened.”</i><br /><br />Obama expressed no opinion about whether Zimmerman should be arrested. He said he was speaking strictly as a parent.<br /><br />Why should "all of us as Americans" search our souls to "figure out why something like this happens"? Why is it "absolutely imperative" that every aspect of this particular case be investigated? Why is this so worthy of our serious attention while 10 dead and 39 wounded in Chicago is not even worth mentioning? Why should I care about this one black teenager when hundreds of black teenages are mown down every year? Why is this one death a tragedy while 10 are merely a statistic? What is it that makes Trayvon Martin so much more special than Aliyah Shell? I would like very much for Barack Obama, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan and all the rest to explain it to me.SukieTawdryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219517365750894110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11324397182332482942012-03-24T16:13:34.604-05:002012-03-24T16:13:34.604-05:00SukieTawdry said...
"I know they've arra...SukieTawdry said...<br /><br />"I know they've arraigned two teens with Spanish surnames for the Shell girl's murder, but I don't know about any other arrests."<br /><br />SukieTawdry,<br /><br />Thanks for the information. My understanding of the issue with case in Sanford is that Zimmerman has not been arrested or charged with any crime unlike those incidents in Chicago that you referenced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12400050498551434022012-03-24T16:08:29.871-05:002012-03-24T16:08:29.871-05:00I know they've arraigned two teens with Spanis...I know they've arraigned two teens with Spanish surnames for the Shell girl's murder, but I don't know about any other arrests.SukieTawdryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219517365750894110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3203580750610812892012-03-24T15:54:57.389-05:002012-03-24T15:54:57.389-05:00SukieTawdry,
Were the perpetrators of those shoot...SukieTawdry,<br /><br />Were the perpetrators of those shootings that you referenced arrested?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73124723088967473972012-03-24T15:34:47.931-05:002012-03-24T15:34:47.931-05:00Last weekend in Chicago, the president's adopt...Last weekend in Chicago, the president's adopted hometown, 10 people were killed and at least 39 others were wounded in gang-related gun fire across the city. The victims were black and Hispanic. One of the dead was a six-year old girl who was playing on her front porch when she caught a stray bullet. Much of the carnage took place in neighborhoods Barack Obama once organized.<br /><br />I wonder if any of the dead and wounded looked like Obama's son if he had one. I wonder, if Obama had another daughter, would she look like Aliyah Shell? <br /><br />Chicago is home also to Jesse Jackson who, instead of tending to business in his own back yard, rushed down to Florida to join in the race-fest.SukieTawdryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219517365750894110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70987740481902304722012-03-24T14:48:07.870-05:002012-03-24T14:48:07.870-05:00Mr. President. What in the heck is wrong with &qu...Mr. President. What in the heck is wrong with "It would be inappropriate for me to comment on this case at this time. Next question."Georg Felishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03550333227450728733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72574299909667247612012-03-24T14:45:10.676-05:002012-03-24T14:45:10.676-05:00It's too bad Trayvon Martin wasn't packing...It's too bad Trayvon Martin wasn't packing heat. Then there could have been a shoot out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62592207156424448312012-03-24T13:10:16.615-05:002012-03-24T13:10:16.615-05:00Not that there's anything wrong with wearing a...<i>Not that there's anything wrong with wearing a hoodie.</i><br /><br />DMV disagrees. Apparently, they won't allow you wear one when being photographed for you ID.<br /><br />I wonder why. Maybe DMV is racist.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45028359718396219952012-03-24T09:54:51.123-05:002012-03-24T09:54:51.123-05:00The Unabomber wore a hoodie but he lived in Montan...The Unabomber wore a hoodie but he lived in Montana. You'd think Florida would be warm enough that people wouldn't need to wear a hoodie. Not that there's anything wrong with wearing a hoodie.Kirby Olsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18479079576211005692012-03-24T03:02:42.615-05:002012-03-24T03:02:42.615-05:00Says the libtard sockpuppet on his 4th incarnation...<i>Says the libtard sockpuppet on his 4th incarnation....</i><br /><br />Uh oh, the angry white guy is angry! I never saw that coming... o_O<br /><br /><i>So brave.</i><br /><br />And you too, sir! Posting insults on teh internets requires a special kind of bravery. I salute you, my anonymous friend!I ♥ Willardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16836727315666369088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80470535465888605802012-03-23T22:51:04.781-05:002012-03-23T22:51:04.781-05:00Or in Prof. Reynolds' words: You're self-i...Or in Prof. Reynolds' words: You're self-identifying again.Beldarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13404583858244777905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3486905653501742932012-03-23T22:50:00.029-05:002012-03-23T22:50:00.029-05:00Prof. Althouse, you skip the threshold question, w...Prof. Althouse, you skip the threshold question, which is whether the President of the United States has any business commenting on an ongoing state-law criminal investigation.<br /><br />You may think his words are calming. I think they're inappropriate, and because they evidence his extreme narcisism, they're frightening (although nothing new).Beldarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13404583858244777905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31895449336912759232012-03-23T20:45:16.389-05:002012-03-23T20:45:16.389-05:00Between invoking his daughters for the Fluke incid...Between invoking his daughters for the Fluke incident and describing his non-existent son, he's gettin some major Daddy points as of late.<br /><br />"if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.”<br /><br />Really?<br />More proof he is the smartest president ever...and so "post racial" too.<br />As post racial as having a race based section a sitting president's campaign site:<br />http://www.barackobama.com/african-americans/<br /><br />Being Irish/German etc-American, I'm not sure if I would be flagged in violation if I signed up to "Join In". Yes..I know..this is not news to anyone else. And that speaks volumes to how post racial things really are.<br /><br />But I do appreciate he didn't say the "police acted stupidly". That might have required another beer summit.walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17818749187960350810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47808221607317293362012-03-23T20:30:37.945-05:002012-03-23T20:30:37.945-05:00For heavens sake ... this isn't law or logic ....For heavens sake ... this isn't law or logic ... it's emotion. <br /><br />When the president says “You know, if I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.” he's also implying the emotion of: "You know, that man killed someone who looked like MY son."<br /><br />That's not restrained. It's calculated to fuel the fire being stoked by others. It's clever ONLY in that it appears sympathetic ... But it's not especially subtle. And Al Sharpton and others will know how to use this kind of statement.<br /><br />We have a real problem on our hands here ...Franknshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12775524199796716860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81925658818738890152012-03-23T20:29:49.268-05:002012-03-23T20:29:49.268-05:00Obama thrives on class warfare. Not very president...Obama thrives on class warfare. Not very presidential...Bill S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04490843199382429231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10822613906525578482012-03-23T19:19:02.964-05:002012-03-23T19:19:02.964-05:00@Fen
Lucky for me, I'm just one of those ch...@Fen <br /><br />Lucky for me, I'm just one of those chicks stupid enough to vote Republican, I am, however, raising two future angry white men, so thank you for the pointers.Ellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10557719310905120717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78939962866321805282012-03-23T19:06:46.272-05:002012-03-23T19:06:46.272-05:00Oh shush! Angry white men are a healthy majority a...<i>Oh shush! Angry white men are a healthy majority at Althouse.</i><br /><br />Says the libtard sockpuppet on his 4th incarnation....<br /><br />So brave.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4902408931577715612012-03-23T18:14:23.886-05:002012-03-23T18:14:23.886-05:00Another unforced error!!Another unforced error!!madAsHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01149940549262340795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77389736567775032052012-03-23T18:08:00.879-05:002012-03-23T18:08:00.879-05:00Else, they'll marginalize your opinion by tagg...<i>Else, they'll marginalize your opinion by tagging you with the angry white male label.</i><br /><br />Oh shush! Angry white men are a healthy majority at Althouse.I ♥ Willardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16836727315666369088noreply@blogger.com