tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post5648521927417164787..comments2024-03-28T17:25:15.969-05:00Comments on Althouse: "It’s time to stop pointing and laughing at the Republican primary. For all the GOP front-runner’s flaws, many veteran Democrats are beginning to conclude..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1925786988149300712016-03-03T10:04:47.708-06:002016-03-03T10:04:47.708-06:00Chuck said...
Rusty said...
In the Virginia primar...Chuck said...<br />Rusty said...<br />In the Virginia primary 60,000 democrats crossed over and voted for Trump.<br /><br /><br />Goddam clever Democrats; they know how to play the game. They might succeed and get their dream opponent.<br /><br />Fortunately, Chuck. None of the Republican stable has a democrat to run against them. Get used to the idea of Trump as president.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74226483845915524562016-03-03T08:59:59.366-06:002016-03-03T08:59:59.366-06:00Rusty said...
In the Virginia primary 60,000 democ...<i>Rusty said...<br />In the Virginia primary 60,000 democrats crossed over and voted for Trump.<br /></i><br /><br />Goddam clever Democrats; they know how to play the game. They might succeed and get their dream opponent.Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07676108366725199186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27663013765413753862016-03-03T06:12:23.442-06:002016-03-03T06:12:23.442-06:00In the Virginia primary 60,000 democrats crossed o...In the Virginia primary 60,000 democrats crossed over and voted for Trump.<br />It's over usual suspects.You haven't got the candidates to defeat Trump and you can't cheat your way into winning with those numbers against you.<br />Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48662429191293733642016-03-02T22:56:13.947-06:002016-03-02T22:56:13.947-06:00@Saint Croix: I can't tell if your 10:40 is sa...@Saint Croix: I can't tell if your 10:40 is satire or not. Fabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17991749875348408368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20955208451547267822016-03-02T22:50:07.999-06:002016-03-02T22:50:07.999-06:00Bit late to the party: "none of the individua...Bit late to the party: "none of the individual brushstrokes is a precise representation of what we see as reality, but the overall impression is very real to us, often strikingly so. It's quite a high level talent. You are fussing over this distinction or that one, while Trump has captured the listener with an emotional pull." Key to the con.Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00505631054204611033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7867662587140474722016-03-02T22:40:08.221-06:002016-03-02T22:40:08.221-06:00The entire GOP is frozen by the actions of Marco R...The entire GOP is frozen by the actions of Marco Rubio. This man has drawn a line in the sand. He is saying, "Trump is unacceptable." And if you cross that line, so be it. But it is Marco Rubio who has drawn the line. <br /><br />Expect Marco Rubio's speech at CPAC to be a ferocious defense of free speech, and a shot across the bow at Donald J. Trump, and all the goats and ghouls who would support such a man. <br /><br />Marco was offered the vice presidency and he said, no sir! I am not interested in being your #2! And then he went to war on Donnie. He went to war even as the polls were predicting an astounding loss across multiple states. He went to war even as Donnie looked to be an unstoppable force. He went to war, and he continues to fight.<br /><br />Go, Marco!Saint Croixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17876368500159112781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10925104694452060572016-03-02T22:03:31.294-06:002016-03-02T22:03:31.294-06:00Ann Althouse said...
Chuck, he spoke only of knowi...<i>Ann Althouse said...<br />Chuck, he spoke only of knowingly publishing false statements, so what is the First Amendment problem?<br /></i><br /><br />I am not following you, Professor. Yes, the "scenario" described by Trump would be actionable, one would think. It would not be barred by a First Amendment issue (or other legal bar) arising out of the Sullivan/Gertz lines of case law.<br /><br />And so why, in that situation, is Mr. Donald J. Trump whining about the unfairness of newspapers being free of liability? Under what Trump described, a suit would not be barred. So why "open up the libel laws"? Whatever the hell that means.<br /><br />Of course it's not just that Trump seems to have inadvertently created the perfect hypothetical that defeats his intended point. Beyond that, it is just plain creepy, to think of a President of the United States creating law(s) to skirt a protection found in the Bill of Rights, in order to wage a vendetta "for lots and lots of money."<br /><br />And lest you think that I am going too far with this story, Professor, recall that Trump did in fact sue writer Tim O'Brien (formerly the Business Page editor of the Times, and now with Bloomberg) over his authorized(!) biography, "Trump Nation."<br /><br />I simply cannot begin to tell the story better than O'Brien can; and it is a must-read. For the sheer audacity and odiousness of Mr. Donald J. Trump, you can hardly top this. There is a "The Onion" quality to this one:<br /><br />http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-07-21/dear-mr-trump-i-m-worth-10-billion-too-Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07676108366725199186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90661236305837872262016-03-02T21:57:01.729-06:002016-03-02T21:57:01.729-06:00Tim in Vermont wrote:
Find something in Hillary...<i><br />Tim in Vermont wrote:<br />Find something in Hillary's speech that Mussolini would have a problem with.</i><br />For people obsessed with fascism, the Left doesn't know much about it. Talk to a fascist -- a real fascist, not a blowhard real estate wheeler-dealer -- and the first thing you will hear from him is that the government needs to stop letting corporations run the country, because the government needs to be on the side of the working man.<br />The idea that Trump is Hitler is ludicrous. Not only has the Left already said that every GOP pol from Dan Quayle to Sarah Palin was Hitler, they have no understanding of the European history that made Hitler chancellor. Hitler didn't like Hindenberg because Hindenberg was a Graf, a member of the social class Hitler believed had betrayed Germany at the end of the First World War. Hitler thought of Hindenberg as a man of the 19th century. If Hitler had been a conservative, he would have put the frikkin' Kaiser back on the throne. Lewis Wetzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200232293505119133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80214127596671317162016-03-02T20:28:51.709-06:002016-03-02T20:28:51.709-06:00And the choice will be binary -- either you are fo...<i>And the choice will be binary -- either you are for Trump or for Hillary. No middle grounds.</i><br /><br />The Libertarian party is on the ticket in all 50 states. Gary Johnson <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/06/gary-johnson-2012-libertarian-presidential-candidate-will-run-in-2016/" rel="nofollow">will be the nominee</a><br /><br />If it's Trump vs. Hillary, I'm voting for Johnson.<br /><br />And if nobody gets a majority of delegates, it goes to the House. And the Republicans have to pick Trump, or Hillary, or Gary Johnson.Saint Croixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17876368500159112781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10722390607487878252016-03-02T19:32:32.461-06:002016-03-02T19:32:32.461-06:00If we, the Republican party, nominate a Trump/Cruz...<i>If we, the Republican party, nominate a Trump/Cruz ticket, which is likely, this will be akin to the Louisiana race when the Republicans put forth David Duke, against the corrupt Democrat. We lost. </i><br /><br />I never knew you could square horseshit.<br /><br />Interesting.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9026435681857884402016-03-02T17:47:57.062-06:002016-03-02T17:47:57.062-06:00Google "actual malice."Google "actual malice."Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60517100393792271622016-03-02T17:46:47.345-06:002016-03-02T17:46:47.345-06:00Chuck, he spoke only of knowingly publishing false...Chuck, he spoke only of knowingly publishing false statements, so what is the First Amendment problem?Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15847949983195230792016-03-02T17:12:55.673-06:002016-03-02T17:12:55.673-06:00Although if Mussolini had the transcripts to Hilla...Although if Mussolini had the transcripts to Hillary's Goldman Sachs speeches, I am betting he might have blown a gasket.tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84739405455853476492016-03-02T17:12:33.562-06:002016-03-02T17:12:33.562-06:00"Show me a quote by Hillary that is attribute..."Show me a quote by Hillary that is attributed to Mussolini."<br /><br />Wait, didn't Obama befriend terrorists from Weather Underground? Didn't his people put the photos of Che Gevara, and supported communists and proclaimed that Mao is their favorite philosopher? Wasn't Louis Farakhan celebrated in Obama's church?Hyphenated Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05180757495695345376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57869433295357913912016-03-02T17:10:06.656-06:002016-03-02T17:10:06.656-06:00Show me a quote by Hillary that is attributed to M...<i>Show me a quote by Hillary that is attributed to Mussolini.</i><br /><br />You move goal posts much? I said she said things that Mussolini would be comfortable saying. Hey, Mussolini was a popular guy for a while in Italy! <br /><br />Hillary's conception of the role of the state stands in stark contrast to that of the economic liberals who make a home in the Republican Party and Libertarian Party. <br /><br />Hillary:<br /><br /><i>We have to make America whole. We have to fill in what’s been hollowed out.<br />(CROWD CHANT)<br />We have to make strong the broken places, re-stitch the bonds of trust and respect across our country.</i><br /><br /><i>And I had to wonder what they would make of corporations that seem to have absolutely no loyalty to the country that they love so much. </i><br /><br /><i>You know whether we like it or not, we’re all in this together, my friends, and we all have to do our part. But unfortunately, too many of those with the most wealth and the most power in this country today seem to have forgotten that basic truth about America.</i><br /><br />Mussolini:<br /><br /><i>Fascism desires the State to be strong and organic, based on broad foundations of popular support. The Fascist State lays claim to rule in the economic field no less than in others; it makes its action felt throughout the length and breadth of the country by means of its corporative, social, and educational institutions, and all the political, economic, and spiritual forces of the nation, organized in their respective associations, circulate within the State. A State based on millions of individuals who recognize its authority, feel its action, and are ready to serve its ends</i><br /><br /><i>The Ministry of Corporations is an institution in virtue of which, in the centre and outside, integral corporation becomes an accomplished fact, where balance is achieved between interests and forces of the economic world. Such a glance is only possible within the sphere of the state, because the state alone transcends the contrasting interests of groups and individuals, in view of co-coordinating them to achieve higher aims. The achievement of these aims is speeded up by the fact that all economic organizations, acknowledged, safeguarded and supported by the Corporative State, exist within the orbit of Fascism; in other terms they accept the conception of Fascism in theory and in practice. </i><br /><br /><i>We have constituted a Corporative and Fascist state, the state of national society, a State which concentrates, controls, harmonizes and tempers the interests of all social classes, which are thereby protected in equal measure. Whereas, during the years of demo-liberal regime, labour looked with diffidence upon the state, was, in fact, outside the State and against the state, and considered the state an enemy of every day and every hour</i> <br /><br />Other fascists:<br /><br /><i> Fascists in non-Catholic countries also supported Italian Fascist corporatism, including Oswald Mosley of the British Union of Fascists who commended corporatism and said that "it means a nation organized as the human body, with each organ performing its individual function but working in harmony with the whole".[40] Mosley also considered corporatism as an attack on laissez-faire economics and "international finance".[40]</i><br /><br />Find something in Hillary's speech that Mussolini would have a problem with.tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40020045500622277442016-03-02T17:06:43.279-06:002016-03-02T17:06:43.279-06:00"Donald Trump ran to the right of everybody. ..."Donald Trump ran to the right of everybody. He ran to the right of Ted Cruz. He ran as a fascist. He said many, many authoritarian things. So he became the right-winger in the race"<br /><br />His support for government run healthcare is "right-wing"? How about Planned parenthood? How about higher taxes? you would be hard-pressed to show anything right-wing from him except his position on illegal immigration and the moslem immigration. Hyphenated Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05180757495695345376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90845268113071615882016-03-02T16:45:06.618-06:002016-03-02T16:45:06.618-06:00Latest polls show Trump beating Hillary Clinton in...Latest polls show Trump beating Hillary Clinton in the state of New York.<br /><br />Let's think about that for a minute. If Trump is the Republican nominee and Hillary the Democrat, then one of the deeper blue states is in play.<br /><br />I always thought that Hillary Clinton would be lucky to win ten states. Maybe I gave her too much credit.Big Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831645119853118904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55268582984541926752016-03-02T16:10:15.413-06:002016-03-02T16:10:15.413-06:00Trump is a talented flim-flam man. So what? I won&...<i>Trump is a talented flim-flam man. So what? I won't vote for him now or ever, and I reserve the right to say "I told you so."</i><br /><br />The problem is your alternative will probably be Clinton.Bob Loblawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11081916786770290968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76598394934829853242016-03-02T16:07:48.919-06:002016-03-02T16:07:48.919-06:00Trump is a talented flim-flam man. So what? I won&...Trump is a talented flim-flam man. So what? I won't vote for him now or ever, and I reserve the right to say "I told you so." Douglas B. Levenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07916420802096618688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55634909882090286102016-03-02T16:02:00.472-06:002016-03-02T16:02:00.472-06:00tim in Vermont
Show me a quote by Hillary that is ...tim in Vermont<br />Show me a quote by Hillary that is attributed to Mussolini. Also show me Hillary shrugging off support from white supremacists. At the very least - even if you like Trump - it is rather disturbing that he tweets the most absurd things and then pretends like he doesn't know anything about it. Can you agree with that?<br /><br />David<br />"Trump is a verbal impressionist....Whatever engages our feelings tends to win out." That is really silly. Do give Hillary the same leeway? You're admitting Trump doesn't know a thing about libel laws but gee he expresses 'feelings' that conservatives like. LOL. Good grief. Being arrogantly ignorant is now a plus?Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04977662030208589392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88827109874571748102016-03-02T15:50:52.124-06:002016-03-02T15:50:52.124-06:00@ david "Trump is a verbal impressionist.&quo...@ david "Trump is a verbal impressionist." Terrific phrase and I think it captures why people respond.khesanh0802https://www.blogger.com/profile/11792377924992548208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22350873358894738882016-03-02T15:38:56.421-06:002016-03-02T15:38:56.421-06:00Yes, Ann it made me laugh. Perfect!Yes, Ann it made me laugh. Perfect!khesanh0802https://www.blogger.com/profile/11792377924992548208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26223469479761077652016-03-02T15:23:03.070-06:002016-03-02T15:23:03.070-06:00If there is something of there you think is of int...If there is something of there you think is of interest, why don't you quote a little snippet and explain why you think so and defend your position?tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46003213292384356512016-03-02T15:20:56.953-06:002016-03-02T15:20:56.953-06:00Why should I? I can see by the headline it's T...Why should I? I can see by the headline it's Trump bashing. And I know from Vox's history that they are a Democrat talking point factory. What is the point of reading their article? Hillary has a lot more markers of authoritarianism, but you won't see Vox pointing out the similarities between her speech last night and the writings of Mussolini anytime soon.tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54416651883115454682016-03-02T15:04:05.043-06:002016-03-02T15:04:05.043-06:00tim in vermont:
what argument? did you read the a...tim in vermont:<br /><br />what argument? did you read the article?EsoxLuciushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267161303770175537noreply@blogger.com