tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post5595359094202183565..comments2024-03-19T05:50:55.970-05:00Comments on Althouse: If Javon Belcher's girlfriend had owned a gun, might she have saved her own life?Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger118125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77822300859105296062012-12-10T20:08:08.833-06:002012-12-10T20:08:08.833-06:00Of course the libs don't want black women arme...Of course the libs don't want black women armed. They might get uppity.kentuckylizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08110491371985845560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45107315367613765382012-12-10T12:30:52.228-06:002012-12-10T12:30:52.228-06:00Holdfast.
OK let's assume the situation where...Holdfast.<br /><br />OK let's assume the situation where the dead woman was (get out your thesarus for "crazy") & let herself become a victim long before the shooting(not a unique thing, no?). Why not let such victim try to prevent further attacks by having a gun, without her having to die to achieve such result?<br /><br />*************<br />Kirk<br /><br />I agree. My wife & I know two single women who have a gun who claim that they won't have to "scramble" around to get to it if someone is breaking down their door or window.From Inwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555545963289759013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60807519044453121482012-12-10T04:46:58.907-06:002012-12-10T04:46:58.907-06:00Paraphrasing an anti-oral Majority bumper sticker ...Paraphrasing an anti-oral Majority bumper sticker from yore --<br />Think Progress does neither.DEEBEEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16235176776968497303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14796468384367012852012-12-09T23:12:14.635-06:002012-12-09T23:12:14.635-06:00Madison Man
If you are in a relationship, and fe...Madison Man<br /> <br /><i>If you are in a relationship, and fear for your life, you get out of that relationship. Or you convince yourself you are not in a dangerous place, even if you are wrong.<br /><br />In either case, you are not going to be thinking I need a gun. </i><br /><br />Maybe, but how about this:<br /><br />"If you are in a relationship, and fear for your life, you try to get out of that realtionship, but the guy won't let you. So you get a restraining order from a court.<br /><br />But if you check police response times in cases where the guy keeps coming back, ever more menacing, maybe you want to consider getting a gun?"<br /><br />Just sayin'.<br /><br />*************<br />timb<br /><br />Prof A can defend herself, but she lets all kinds of comments on the site. <br /><br />Whether or not that is a good way to run a blog, I suggest to you that it is not logical for you to argue from that that she is teachin' what they are preachin'<br /><br />Anyway, now that you've noticed that some commenters have nothing worthwhile to say, do you have any thoughts on her points?<br /><br />BTW, is it anti-feminism, anti wymyn to note that women are weaker than Football Players or are more likely to be the victims in domestic-violence cases?<br /><br />From Inwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555545963289759013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10568983390595825232012-12-09T22:49:41.347-06:002012-12-09T22:49:41.347-06:00I am as pro-gun as the (summer) day is long, but I...I am as pro-gun as the (summer) day is long, but I strongly suspect that Perkins had a victim mentality which would not have been changed by her ownership of a firearm. I mean it couldn't have hurt - if Belcher had got it away from her, he'd have had 9 guns instead of 8 - but if she truly didn't want to be a victim she wouldn't have been in that relationship.holdfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15206911009978107266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73466439874688857542012-12-09T22:48:03.883-06:002012-12-09T22:48:03.883-06:00"...scrambled around and found the gun in tim..."<i>...scrambled around and found the gun in time...</i>"<br /><br />See, more Manufactured Ignorance™ from the gun-control side. <br /><br /><br /><br />Althouse vs Ritmo:<br /><br />It's even worse than that. The good evidence is actually on the NRA's side (see Kleck and others, vs the now-completely-discredited Kellerman "study".)<br />Kirk Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05921711310191924997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55061359118226564082012-12-09T22:47:35.601-06:002012-12-09T22:47:35.601-06:00Shouting,
"Why the continued apparent insist...Shouting,<br /><br />"<i>Why the continued apparent insistence that we don't have gun control laws?</i>"<br /><br />They're hoping the uninformed don't notice, and they know that they vote.<br /><br />In my experience, people who parrot this line <i>who aren't committed demagogues of the gun-control movement</i> are usually quite surprised to learn how restrictive the laws already are. <br />Kirk Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05921711310191924997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74102495614422163422012-12-09T21:52:48.328-06:002012-12-09T21:52:48.328-06:00Barbie says: "Free speech is HARD."Barbie says: "Free speech is HARD."Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90895854964600406992012-12-09T21:43:11.012-06:002012-12-09T21:43:11.012-06:00Professor Althouse, do you pay little attention to...Professor Althouse, do you pay little attention to your followers that you unaware this comment section not only features plenty of "women are victims and weal" points, but features commenters engaged in Anti-semitism and racists? As well as the dumbest comment from a white European (other people are violent and white people aren't). Is this what you are teaching?timbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11840503196010960235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10666998921965331242012-12-09T20:37:44.511-06:002012-12-09T20:37:44.511-06:00If you are in a relationship, and fear for your li...If you are in a relationship, and fear for your life, you get out of that relationship. Or you convince yourself you are not in a dangerous place, even if you are wrong.<br /><br />In either case, you are not going to be thinking <i>I need a gun</i>.MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90918865719965144602012-12-09T20:00:19.208-06:002012-12-09T20:00:19.208-06:00So lets consider this...
Rationally.
Some of us ...So lets consider this...<br /><br />Rationally.<br /><br />Some of us like to say "an armed society is a polite society." It seems right to us on a number of levels. Essentially the argument is that people who are secure and powerful are nicer to their fellow human beings because a confrontation is potentially more dangerous when people are armed. "Is this insult worth getting upset over?" has a different calculus. So does "Should I break in and rob this house?"<br /><br />Others like to imagine that someone who has power and strength will necessarily abuse it, and that the way to promote a polite society is to make us weak and dependent on polite behavior as our means of protection. I will not be rude because I don't want to make the people around me mad because I am at their mercy? This works for the weak, but there are always those who are stronger and what will limit their behavior?<br /><br />Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16631657579083118952012-12-09T19:26:00.788-06:002012-12-09T19:26:00.788-06:00"Carried firearms bring back important phrase..."Carried firearms bring back important phrases in the English venacular: "Please", "thank you", "may I?", "Would you mind?", etc. "<br /><br />Oh yes, such phrases as get out of my way, fuck you, you and who else. Those too.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11139861992805582362012-12-09T16:40:21.347-06:002012-12-09T16:40:21.347-06:00Yes, guns made their home safer.
Yes, guns made their home safer.<br /><br /><br />machinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15770538128023770615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27681642946685397902012-12-09T15:29:36.497-06:002012-12-09T15:29:36.497-06:00"Not sure what planet you live on, but here o..."<i>Not sure what planet you live on, but here on earth plenty of people have good manners without packing heat. In fact, I'd say it's probably the guy with the gun who forgets to say "please."</i>"<br /><br />That's weird to think. Though the way some progressives imagine life with guns, I think that it's might actually be a good idea to keep them away from progressives. They seem really angry and ready to blow their tops at any moment.<br /><br />Anyhow... instead of guns use martial artists as an example. In general terms, if being dangerous means you're MORE likely to be a social jerk because you can get away with it, a black belt would be a walking a**hole. This is seldom true.<br /><br />Go into a shooting range once. People who shoot are polite. The social "rules" are strict and you don't want to be known as the jerk who doesn't follow them.Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58490676566698511892012-12-09T15:01:30.808-06:002012-12-09T15:01:30.808-06:00Guns are an example of force equalizers. Other tha...Guns are an example of force equalizers. Other than through malfunction, they are not causal entities. That is restricted to an impartial natural order and a selective conscious order.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68364305728889104262012-12-09T14:58:44.749-06:002012-12-09T14:58:44.749-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26121159551591995132012-12-09T14:24:19.244-06:002012-12-09T14:24:19.244-06:00Surfed said:
"Carried firearms bring back im...Surfed said:<br /><br />"Carried firearms bring back important phrases in the English venacular: "Please", "thank you", "may I?", "Would you mind?", etc."<br /><br />Not sure what planet you live on, but here on earth plenty of people have good manners without packing heat. In fact, I'd say it's probably the <i>guy with the gun</i> who forgets to say "please."<br /><br />If you don't show good manners unless you think the guy in line at Kroger might be armed, then <i>you're the problem.</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15326685445028740042012-12-09T14:14:47.092-06:002012-12-09T14:14:47.092-06:00B.S.
Plus the cop cars parked outside at night all...B.S.<br />Plus the cop cars parked outside at night all full of good stuff.Hagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03653025261513705773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2521251619204352952012-12-09T14:12:35.724-06:002012-12-09T14:12:35.724-06:00Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood ...<i>Having a gun in the home increases the likelihood of both murders and suicides.</i><br /><br />Of course. Cops know this very well; that's why they never take their guns home. Smilin' Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01501763605001379362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80076134109761558592012-12-09T13:48:00.681-06:002012-12-09T13:48:00.681-06:00A lady one street over from me was surprised by a ...A lady one street over from me was surprised by a couple of burglars one afternoon. She nailed one, DOA, and I believe the police later caught the other.Hagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03653025261513705773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91724213056687721892012-12-09T13:11:59.392-06:002012-12-09T13:11:59.392-06:00"Murder/suicide prevention training is needed..."<i>Murder/suicide prevention training is needed most for women married to or involved with men who own guns. The NRA could organize an auxiliary for this purpose.</i>"<br /><br />That is truly a bizarre statement. Profoundly anti-male and weirdly assuming that a woman can do something to prevent suicide.Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38674096879192409322012-12-09T12:54:50.857-06:002012-12-09T12:54:50.857-06:00"She was a victim, a victim, a victim. Get it..."<i>She was a victim, a victim, a victim. Get it? If she'd dared to redefine herself, it would only have been worse.</i>"<br /><br />Heh. I read the first part and I thought that it's probably true that she'd not have been prepared to defend herself *anyway* but that it was likely that she'd have thought about herself differently if she'd gotten a gun when she wasn't in danger and learned to use it.<br /><br />And then I see Althouse beat me to it. ;-) Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48916302201002944442012-12-09T12:52:14.553-06:002012-12-09T12:52:14.553-06:00As you've probably seen, another football play...As you've probably seen, another football player killed someone yesterday, here while driving under the influence. <br /><br />Bob Costas will appear at halftime today to argue for banning alcohol & cars. <br /><br />BTW, walking down 135th St has nothing to do with gun control. Even with a gun I might be in a dangerous position as the only geezer white guy on the street.<br /><br />For the record, I have, not so long ago taken the #4 Bus down from The Cloisters &, after standin' on the corner, switched to the #5 Express Bus at 135th & B'way to ride down Riverside Dr to 72nd. Highly recommended.<br /><br />I felt safe; there are a lot of dead white :-) geezers on the busses! But I don't wear a Rolex or a Hickey-Freeman sport coat. I blend.<br /><br />But gun control as advocated by Progressives is otherworldly. Police response time is simply not good re violent break-ins. And to the point here, a small woman (pace, feminists) without a weapon is no match for a Pro Football hunk. <br /><br />Sidebar: I was born on 131st St, & as a child was taken down from Inwood to Knickerbocker Hosp via subway to 135th & then by bus across town.<br /> <br />By the late '40s our docs were all with St Joes in Yonkers, actually a shorter distance mileage-wise. We could console ourselves: it was the mileage, not the racism!<br />From Inwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555545963289759013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75972129850660439722012-12-09T12:50:36.110-06:002012-12-09T12:50:36.110-06:00Also, the language in that 12:43 post doesn't ...Also, the language in that 12:43 post doesn't sound very peaceful, or far from vile. Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Togetherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059991118123693141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51230396073015660692012-12-09T12:49:20.741-06:002012-12-09T12:49:20.741-06:00I'm not in pain and I'm not into just call...I'm not in pain and I'm not into just calling names. I just wish to call a fact a fact. <br /><br />You may have prayed for many things today, perhaps even yourself, but I do remember what was said then. I disagreed with it then as I do now. But forgetting about it or coming to terms with it doesn't mean it was right.<br /><br />Peace to you, too. And truth. Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Togetherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059991118123693141noreply@blogger.com