tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post5591762449529986890..comments2024-03-19T08:40:22.345-05:00Comments on Althouse: "I stand quietly, but with arms out, hoping that I seem big to the bear even if he could nicely tear me up with one swipe of his paw."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80219282059080819482011-08-20T16:58:35.123-05:002011-08-20T16:58:35.123-05:00"I saw a woman pull her car to the raodside a..."I saw a woman pull her car to the raodside and engage in hand feeding of several black bears (we were somwhere around Yosemite Park). She was feeding them some sandwitches. I simply couldn't look away. She hand fed the last sandwitch to the largest black bear in the bunch, then she actually turned her back to the bear and was talking and laughing with her kids while strolling back to her car. She got away with it but I still cringe at the memory."<br /><br />That's how many bear encounters end up. Most of the time a bear will decide attacking a human is too risky, even with its back turned, especially if the bear has actually witnessed another bear being killed by human hunters.<br /><br />Sadly, but profitably for casinoes, human brains are simply not wired to accurately assess probabilities. The old lady has probably fed bears many times before without being attacked, and will probably spend the rest of her life absolutely convinced bears are her wonderful friends, rather than wild animals who would kill her in an instant if they weren't so afraid of her.Tatterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06438818838632755061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5856543760156257972011-08-19T23:31:13.782-05:002011-08-19T23:31:13.782-05:00Both stories are traumatic, and almost unbearable....Both stories are traumatic, and almost unbearable. If we are going to allow animals to repopulate to their original levels, we should teach people to behave in the wild as people 200 years ago did, not as Nina does.<br /><br />Idealists and romantics: one way or the other, your days in Eden are numbered.PatCAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08920623662477828662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27040544060865708582011-08-19T23:07:47.041-05:002011-08-19T23:07:47.041-05:00What Zeus Almighty said: Amen
What Rusty said: Her...What Zeus Almighty said: Amen<br />What Rusty said: Here's why I'm at the top of the food chain. http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/bigbore/1895m.aspRightWingNutterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06908029170772858813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73432818749555578872011-08-19T21:42:14.559-05:002011-08-19T21:42:14.559-05:00A few years ago, 15 or 20, a woman was hiking or j...A few years ago, 15 or 20, a woman was hiking or jogging a trail in California, and was killed by a mountain lion. Of course the momma lion had to be put down, but left behind two cubs, as did the jogger. Bank accounts were established for the orphans. Naturally, the orphaned mountain lions had more money in their account than the orphaned children. People get all gooey about wildlife. <br /><br />The story is that a couple of back packers were getting ready to hit the trail when the park ranger pulled into the parking lot and warned them of bear attacks. One of them returned to the car, took off his boots and put on athletic shoes. The other hiker scolded him saying, "You can't possibly out run a bear.", to which he responded "It's not the bear I need to out run."Milwaukeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14830345164697669429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53758680125532956292011-08-19T21:10:49.041-05:002011-08-19T21:10:49.041-05:00Paul said...
They do the three stupids That is th...Paul said...<br /><br /><i>They do the three stupids That is they go to stupid places and do stupid things with stupid people.</i><br /><br />Fine, blame the victims. That's it. I'm organizing a <i>Bear-Bait Walk.</i> Come on, everyone. Lets cover ourselves with Snickers and hike the Appalachian trail!Ignorance is Blisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17351664545145783244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12352987968799047932011-08-19T20:56:29.625-05:002011-08-19T20:56:29.625-05:00It took a long time for humans to get to the top o...It took a long time for humans to get to the top of the food chain, a position I do not intend to yield. I am grateful that National Parks do not automatically disarm visitors any longer. The idea of curling into a fetal ball and waiting until the bear gets bored with mauling you is not a viable survival strategy in my book, although it continues to be what the Parks recommend.BrewReviewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12863274991232713812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38345384569147022922011-08-19T20:42:52.512-05:002011-08-19T20:42:52.512-05:00I stood between my family and a bear one time. Al...I stood between my family and a bear one time. All I had was biggish rocks to heave. That time turned out OK, but since then, I have serial dreams of bears and I always go out armed to the teeth. There just isn't any fucking around with Ursus Horriblis.Oso Negrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07996629147239192401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52010491497620464292011-08-19T20:34:51.481-05:002011-08-19T20:34:51.481-05:00tradguy, I'd be wary of that "Kill the be...tradguy, I'd be wary of that "Kill the bears and eat them" strategy.<br /><br />All bears may be assumed to carry trichinosis. Unless you're an experienced field butcher and camp cook, a bear will kill you after he is dead.comatushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07251715653788254562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24158703063996314182011-08-19T20:26:39.703-05:002011-08-19T20:26:39.703-05:00Never forget. When you leave the lawn for the bush...Never forget. When you leave the lawn for the bush. When you step off the parkway into the brush. You aren't one with nature. You're part of the food chain and not near the top either.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23558386622364357882011-08-19T19:48:23.559-05:002011-08-19T19:48:23.559-05:00Fish and Wildlife Service joke: a fellow asks what...Fish and Wildlife Service joke: a fellow asks what type of handgun is best against grizzlies. He is advised "take a snub nosed .22, grind off the sights." He says "that's not likely to be good against a grizzly." He's told "No handgun is going to be good against a grizzly, but at least that one will hurt less when he rams it up your arse."Dave Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03040201615177845043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27035100697964934772011-08-19T19:45:55.115-05:002011-08-19T19:45:55.115-05:00I once skimmed a book on bear maulings. The author...I once skimmed a book on bear maulings. The author had a list of possible responses (run, climb a tree, play dead), but to know which one to use you had to determine the species (some won't climb, others can climb faster than you can) and the motive (playing dead for a hungry bear just makes it easier for him). I concluded the suggestions were impractical. A .44 Mag, or better yet, a .45-70, seemed much more practical.Dave Hardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03040201615177845043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68408536161436955802011-08-19T19:28:11.980-05:002011-08-19T19:28:11.980-05:00It's illegal, of course, but on the App Trail ...It's illegal, of course, but on the App Trail I carried a .357 magnum (The vaunted, "rule of law" never has impressed me much: Seems indistinguishable from tyranny much of the time).<br /><br />Rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Also rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Pick your cliche.<br /><br />Bottom line is, I'd never go out in the sticks without being armed. Yes, I even illegally carry in national parks, and to hell with anybody who says I shouldn't. Laws against what I do are, of course, illegitimate (And tyrannical!).<br /><br />Bonus: Black bears are not NEARLY the threat that brown bears are, as they are relatively small and naturally shy. I'd want something like a .44 mag or a .454 Casull in grizzly territory, as they fight over territory much more readily... and are way huge. Female black bears with cubs are the danger. They will attempt to kill ANYTHING they perceive as a threat to their cubs.<br /><br />In the west it's catamounts: They seem to enjoy dining on unarmed human hikers.<br /><br />Have fun out there, kids. lol.Hucbaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17111826753868595100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5626729465384957202011-08-19T18:12:45.547-05:002011-08-19T18:12:45.547-05:00"Nina encounters a bear on the International ...<i>"Nina encounters a bear on the International Appalachian Trial. "</i><br /><br />So did the bear plead guilty or not guilty?Gerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03109947876581495848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14950738782479790982011-08-19T18:07:54.202-05:002011-08-19T18:07:54.202-05:00Carol Herman, you almost always crack me up, or ma...Carol Herman, you almost always crack me up, or make me think, thank you.Javerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11110999993408774785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67766948667430113622011-08-19T17:31:01.648-05:002011-08-19T17:31:01.648-05:00I saw a woman pull her car to the raodside and eng...I saw a woman pull her car to the raodside and engage in hand feeding of several black bears (we were somwhere around Yosemite Park). She was feeding them some sandwitches. I simply couldn't look away. She hand fed the last sandwitch to the largest black bear in the bunch, then she actually turned her back to the bear and was talking and laughing with her kids while strolling back to her car. <br /><br />She got away with it but I still cringe at the memory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74311648552408519362011-08-19T15:53:03.822-05:002011-08-19T15:53:03.822-05:00That second bear story turned my stomach. I feel l...That second bear story turned my stomach. I feel like I could vomit.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12889580954693058463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90107845105175059002011-08-19T13:21:08.732-05:002011-08-19T13:21:08.732-05:00"That will not work with more aggressive bear...<i>"That will not work with more aggressive bears in other parts of the country. "</i><br /><br />Those are union bears.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17651968126759405312011-08-19T13:16:24.407-05:002011-08-19T13:16:24.407-05:00Sixty Grit: I think it's the California Golden...Sixty Grit: I think it's the California Golden Bear (a grizzly subspecies) on the flag that was declared extinct; there are some regular grizzlies in the Sierras still, plus black bears, and many of them have very troubling human interaction histories. Various wildlife control agencies who have to remove so-called "problem bears" from more inhabited areas choose remote mountainous areas for drops for their delinquents -- the Sierras and the Rockies are favorite dumping grounds.Megaerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17018161469321132527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29411295903568043062011-08-19T12:04:53.482-05:002011-08-19T12:04:53.482-05:00Mike-
I'm a big fan of .357 mags. Probably the...Mike-<br />I'm a big fan of .357 mags. Probably the best all-around caliber, IMO. But, if needed vs. a threatening or, even more, a charging Griz, you might want to consider getting a .44 Mag. Even an expert shot, unfazed by a charge, is going to have trouble stopping a grizzly with a .357.MikeinAppalachiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16358868772314396137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39137476055327269222011-08-19T12:04:26.984-05:002011-08-19T12:04:26.984-05:00but completely wrong in an encounter with any kind...<i>but completely wrong in an encounter with any kind of canine</i><br /><br />Or octopi. They're very competitive about arms.Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459388007426664813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85094985256826645012011-08-19T12:03:22.976-05:002011-08-19T12:03:22.976-05:00As I understand it, that strategy of making yourse...As I understand it, that strategy of making yourself look big by holding out your arms is good against bears and felines but completely wrong in an encounter with any kind of canine.chuck b.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00882763861745236443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24526964781653997982011-08-19T12:02:18.719-05:002011-08-19T12:02:18.719-05:00I don't get the calling on the cell phone whil...I don't get the calling on the cell phone while being eaten alive. <br /><br />How can you do such a thing? Did she also text and tweet? Perhaps update her Facebook page?Dust Bunny Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13341429444562280127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55507282407080134472011-08-19T11:02:13.106-05:002011-08-19T11:02:13.106-05:00manbearpig prefers "climate change", at ...manbearpig prefers "climate change", at least for now. It'll probably be back to "global cooling" before long.Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459388007426664813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89717232558599093942011-08-19T11:00:21.340-05:002011-08-19T11:00:21.340-05:00God, that second story... horrible. Wish I never r...God, that second story... horrible. Wish I never read it.<br /><br /><i>a newlywed watched her husband get eaten by a bull shark, and now this. The animals seem to be p*ssed off with us.</i><br /><br />I blame global warming.sonicfroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17243418673004541047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52577587279749129982011-08-19T10:03:44.025-05:002011-08-19T10:03:44.025-05:00Nina is exercising her right to bear arms.Nina is exercising her right to bear arms.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17424384180201600935noreply@blogger.com