tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post5243773662618558747..comments2024-03-18T22:05:18.672-05:00Comments on Althouse: "When I was a kid, Halloween was strictly a starchy-vegetable-only holiday, with pumpkins and Indian corn on the front stoop..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65924822864547586172010-11-01T11:04:33.291-05:002010-11-01T11:04:33.291-05:00Well, Wonder Woman is pretty cool.
I meant more...Well, Wonder Woman is pretty cool. <br /><br />I meant more along the lines of Sexy --Insert Name of Various Professions Here--.Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31641916859593808272010-10-31T22:53:51.280-05:002010-10-31T22:53:51.280-05:00From my mouth to reality:
Let the real American j...From my mouth to reality:<br /><br />Let <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/10/31/2010-10-31_man_in_california_william_lynch_arrested_in_beating_of_priest_who_sexually_abuse.html" rel="nofollow">the real American justice</a> begin!The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1540072153828612282010-10-31T19:35:09.764-05:002010-10-31T19:35:09.764-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.The Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354536924604187137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82090159536226555912010-10-31T19:13:04.171-05:002010-10-31T19:13:04.171-05:00Heh. It's a fair cop.Heh. It's a fair cop.yashuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716156754089411837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56574497533124006292010-10-31T19:05:01.057-05:002010-10-31T19:05:01.057-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.The Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354536924604187137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8524688215178893912010-10-31T18:12:16.530-05:002010-10-31T18:12:16.530-05:00She may be right about Halloween, but the kind of ...She may be right about Halloween, but the kind of adult revelry (bawdy, transgressive, excessive, grotesque, involving the reversal of roles) that, as you say, has migrated, come to attach itself to this holiday has roots that go way back: e.g. Mardi Gras, but more broadly the Carnival-- going back to the medieval Feast of Fools and Roman Saturnalia. <br /><br />So it might be relatively new for this to take place on Halloween, but what's found a place to express itself on this day is something very old, culturally elemental. Hey, there are/ were "slutty costumes" galore at the Brazilian carnival this year or the Roman Saturnalia millennia ago. <br /><br />(Incidentally: so is 60 G a moby then? I've long suspected he might be. But ah well, on this of all days, at least for the day, I should try to let go of my misomobyism-- in their own way, I suppose, mobys & trolls fit in with the spirit of the carnivalesque here at Althouse.)yashuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716156754089411837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5817589849087154792010-10-31T17:57:14.713-05:002010-10-31T17:57:14.713-05:00Crack - You have to say "trick or treat"...Crack - You have to say "trick or treat" if you are going to strike a scary pose. The "consequence" of the baby boomers' takeover of Halloween is a bit of nostalgic wistfulness in a woman my age. If you want to find an excuse to wipe out the boomers you will have to do better than that. Christopher Buckley did. Read Boomsday. Even a macho man can affor a laugh.Bob_Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14013147654544140102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10725627892678115362010-10-31T17:01:42.231-05:002010-10-31T17:01:42.231-05:00My last years of trick or treat I was a hooker (1...My last years of trick or treat I was a hooker (11 or 12). That's how you used to know it was time to start going to parties instead of trick or treating. ;-) You couldn't buy a sexualized costume back then, you had to cobble one together out of your own gear and too much make up.<br /><br />Anyway, the sexualized Halloween costumes don't bother me too much because you can't get rid of true innocence. Case in point, my niece, who has been doing the sexy mermaid/fairy/ghoulish cheerleader/pop star thing since 7-yrs-old. (She is very well supervised btw. The year she was a pop star he Dad dressed as her security complete with shades and little wireless ear piece )<br /><br />And not just for Halloween either. So she was strutting around striking poses in her purple rayon velvet spandex and belting out "SEXY" at the top of her lungs on evening. Then half an hour later, she commented on an overheard adult conversation: WHO WOULD WANT TO BE NAKED IN FRONT OF A BOY!!! EWWWW.<br /><br />You can smell the coffee and still have no idea what's going on, and you can't get rid of genuine childhood innocence that easily imo unless you actually put your kids out on the street. The real danger comes from pedophile adults - and that can be taken care of with proper supervision.jamboreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10072654852275348264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56974249957216011582010-10-31T14:42:34.301-05:002010-10-31T14:42:34.301-05:00There was an article recently in the NY Post about...There was an article recently in the NY Post about the highly sexualized trick or treat outfits that are now marketed to tweens. The thing that struck me is that every parent interviewed disapproved followed by a what's the use, that's just the way things are comment.ricpichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01321511130788764861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-543148324462758352010-10-31T14:41:39.106-05:002010-10-31T14:41:39.106-05:00AP: I hope you have both life and health insurance...AP: I hope you have both life and health insurance. If the 11/3 aneurysm doesn't kill you, I don't want to be paying your hospital bills.John Burgesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11979918255430186425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77724838834055486062010-10-31T14:22:30.626-05:002010-10-31T14:22:30.626-05:00But Crack, the biggest sin in Althouse world is to...But Crack, the biggest sin in Althouse world is to be boring. Boring is not allowed! Immature, OTOH, is allowed, because it's not boring (or so Althouse believes). <br /><br />Similarly, being wrong is definitely allowed, so long as it's based on a nuanced argument. If it's based on a simple (read "boring") argument then it's not allowed. Being right based on a simple (read "boring") argument also is not allowed. Nuance! Nuance uber alles!kathleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760546833628880462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28960832699394191242010-10-31T14:16:00.697-05:002010-10-31T14:16:00.697-05:00It probably did start with the boomers. I see it m...It probably did start with the boomers. I see it more as a collegiate drug thing, a faux pagan thing, before it became a consumer thing - but that bleeds into a permanent childhood, doesn't it?jamboreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10072654852275348264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20669447147040128452010-10-31T13:58:34.193-05:002010-10-31T13:58:34.193-05:00Bagoh20,
Crack, I'm in Compton every day. I w...Bagoh20,<br /><br /><i>Crack, I'm in Compton every day. I work there. Black people aren't that bad. You just need to meet more of them, you know have a black friend or something.</i><br /><br />Yea - which ain't likely to happen in Madison, except for some black liberal idiot who goes along with that shit. When I'm in Compton, next, I'll let you know and we can hook up.<br /><br />Eddie,<br /><br /><i>I don't know that Ann was defending the Boomer's refusal to grow up. I took it to be an honest statement of the reality of things: the Boomers certainly are not going to change at this point, so we best adapt to that reality.</i><br /><br />Or we can kill them. Has anyone ever thought of that as an option? Looked at all the damage they've done - accompanied by this "deal with it" attitude - and just said, fuck it, let's Kent State the whole lot of 'em? <br /><br />Why should those who came after have to go broke, be driven insane, and watch the greatest country on Earth drop to it's knees, just to accommodate a bunch of worthless elites who don't know their asses from a hole in the ground?<br /><br />Oh, yea, the law. I'm really learning to hate the law. Not as much law in South Central, as the rest of the country, so shit gets handled. <br /><br /><a href="http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com/2010/10/looking-at-stupid-people-ii.html" rel="nofollow">Look at Jerry Brown</a> - he deserves a bullet in his head, or prison, for all the harm he's done to others but he's walking free because the law protects him.<br /><br />Same thing for Jim Carey and <a href="http://andyourelectronmicroscope.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/mccarthy-madness/#more-621" rel="nofollow">Jenny McCarthy</a> - they got kids killed and injured for their anti-vaccine crusade and, now, all anyone can talk about is that those two liars have broke up and <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1324945/Jenny-McCarthy-gets-Halloween-spirit-Fred-Flintstone-costume.html" rel="nofollow">what's next?</a> It would be much better if the parents of one of those dead kids killed them - but they can't - because of the law.<br /><br />The law is no law - it's been twisted into a "get out of jail free" card and/or a license to kill, knowing they can't do shit to even the score. That's what no-fault divorce is, and all the rest. That's why nothing seems to be able to get done around here. <br /><br />As the saying goes, first, kill all the lawyers.<br /><br />Then we'd be able to see how many people could claim others just have to "deal" with whatever they decide to dish out.The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44712766340188225672010-10-31T13:54:23.737-05:002010-10-31T13:54:23.737-05:00Don't listen to Freeman, ladies. She's tal...Don't listen to Freeman, ladies. She's talking crazy talk. If you want to dress up as Wonder Woman... you go right ahead!Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45401922349178847852010-10-31T13:43:32.442-05:002010-10-31T13:43:32.442-05:00I don't understand the trend of dressing slutt...I don't understand the trend of dressing sluttily on Halloween. Really, you could go out to a dance club on any old day dressed as sluttily as you pleased, and you would look normal.<br /><br />Halloween is the one day where you have an excuse to dress in something weird or scary. Don't blow it on boring stripper clothes!Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7403841025649379452010-10-31T13:30:52.780-05:002010-10-31T13:30:52.780-05:00In my area, the joy police has pretty much done aw...In my area, the joy police has pretty much done away with Halloween. The last couple of years no kids have came by at all, so this year I have not even bothered to buy candy.Hagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03653025261513705773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1932290817350421402010-10-31T13:07:03.548-05:002010-10-31T13:07:03.548-05:00Halloween's a grotesque holiday. In New York i...Halloween's a grotesque holiday. In New York it's just another opportunity for young women to act like whores and young men to act like douchebags.Palladianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01105490715666718993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15809801239778669562010-10-31T12:35:28.146-05:002010-10-31T12:35:28.146-05:00Crack,
I don't know that Ann was defending th...Crack,<br /><br />I don't know that Ann was defending the Boomer's refusal to grow up. I took it to be an honest statement of the reality of things: the Boomers certainly are not going to change at this point, so we best adapt to that reality. Obamacare might give us the means for adapting: Death Panels for Boomers!Eddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01762303177565357877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79572237833261846532010-10-31T12:32:42.289-05:002010-10-31T12:32:42.289-05:00Crack, I'm in Compton every day. I work ther...Crack, I'm in Compton every day. I work there. Black people aren't that bad. You just need to meet more of them, you know have a black friend or something. <br /><br />But seriously, over 90% still support Obama. I wonder how bad he would have to be to get that below 50%. Is there anything he could possibly do to piss off half of them enough to overcome skin color (racism). There is something wrong about that.<br /><br />I know, what if he divorced Michelle and hooked up with Palin? Maybe 50%, but 80% would still reelect him over any white candidate. This would embarrass me if I was blacker.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24707595983494441362010-10-31T12:26:19.789-05:002010-10-31T12:26:19.789-05:00There's this family that has two sons, ages 10...There's this family that has two sons, ages 10 and 8. One morning they're in the kitchen, and the mother asks the 10-year-old "Honey, what would you like for breakfast."<br /><br />The kid replies, "I could really go for some f***in' french toast." Mom slaps him across the face good and hard, the father takes off his belt and whacks him on the rear end, and the boy goes off crying to his room.<br /><br />Mom then turns to the 8-year-old and says "Honey, what would you like for breakfast."<br /><br />"I don't know," the younger boy replies, "but I <i>definitely</i> don't want any f***in' french toast!"<br /><br />PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89268199314292874392010-10-31T12:17:04.831-05:002010-10-31T12:17:04.831-05:00In the 60's it was a kids' celebration. I...In the 60's it was a kids' celebration. I remember bands of kids running the streets for candy and mayhem with almost no adults present. Very small children stayed home with the adults, and the older kids were free to roam, as we were most other times. <br /><br />My parents almost never knew where I was, or what I was doing, on Halloween or any other time.<br /><br />Are kids really in more danger today, or are we adults just big pussies now?bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13795951843141403752010-10-31T12:16:55.288-05:002010-10-31T12:16:55.288-05:00Well, this is going to ruin Titus', er, AP'...Well, <a href="http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/rasmussen-reports-has-republicans-leading-in-6-of-7-tossup-senate-races-video/" rel="nofollow">this</a> is going to ruin Titus', er, AP's day.<br /><br />Freeman Hunt said...<br /><br /><i>What was that old movie that showed typical Halloween as consisting of children burning junk and throwing flour in the faces of disliked neighbors? Was that Meet Me in St. Louis?</i><br /><br />You got it. And Margaret O'Brien told the mystified old German, "Mr -, I hate you".<br /><br />WV "opror" Either La Boheme in Baaston or what will happen on Air Force One 11/3.focedutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15589958656028023357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49234137374826038142010-10-31T12:15:55.483-05:002010-10-31T12:15:55.483-05:00Freeman, yes it was.Freeman, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3NFOMHDFzg" rel="nofollow">yes it was</a>.Hector Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09464231766299961050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49490525170204274422010-10-31T11:47:50.715-05:002010-10-31T11:47:50.715-05:00Best Holiday of the Year.
.....trick for a treat.....Best Holiday of the Year.<br /><a href="http://opusonemedia.blogspot.com/2010/10/boooo-ignus-fatuus.html" rel="nofollow">.....trick for a treat.... </a>Opus One Mediahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04041788083619471630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49534297109168508042010-10-31T11:33:44.961-05:002010-10-31T11:33:44.961-05:00What was that old movie that showed typical Hallow...What was that old movie that showed typical Halloween as consisting of children burning junk and throwing flour in the faces of disliked neighbors? Was that Meet Me in St. Louis?Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.com