tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post5163919567612396183..comments2024-03-28T16:27:10.914-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Then the tone of the conversation became extremely religious and she began talking about the two things most important to her being Jesus Christ and freedom."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger214125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36225587998145766892013-03-20T13:40:50.809-05:002013-03-20T13:40:50.809-05:00No, the point stands because leftists routinely ca...No, the point stands because leftists routinely call Conservatives the vilest things. Any opposition to their Euro-socialism is met with accusations of racism, sexism, homophobia, ad nauseum. <br /><br />The GOP will put black people in chains, according to the sitting Vice President of the USA. <br /><br />What a piece of shit Joe Biden(D) is for saying crap like that. I didn't vote for him. You did, even after he said that shit. <br /><br />The left say very little in the way of criticism about sharia or dictator ruled Arabic governments when said governments are hostile to the USA. <br /><br />Oh, they will put on a little civil rights kabuki theater, but will do little to actually stop any of it. Usually, they enable it and praise it. See: Arab Spring.<br /><br />Instead, Bush is a Nazi and war criminal for daring to attempt to put a stop to some of it. The very same efforts when done by Obama are either praised or met with silence. <br /><br />So, to see this pearl clutching, fainting couch "Oh how offensive" bullshit and stamping on speech when the tables are turned is some mighty tasty hypocricy. You can't weasil your way out of it.SGT Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00184808889760136366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16963019354588436382013-03-20T09:59:23.752-05:002013-03-20T09:59:23.752-05:00Get back to me when you think Catholics accept tyr...Get back to me when you think Catholics accept tyrannical secular law that attempts to force them to violate the Catholic doctrine on the sanctity of life and related teachings about marriage. <br /><br />One of the problems libtards have: they think their genitals trump everything. Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41980257119473734582013-03-20T08:53:48.235-05:002013-03-20T08:53:48.235-05:00It's not nearly as well-established as the und...<i>It's not nearly as well-established as the underlying Catholic principles. Look them up or have your local parish priest explain it to you. </i><br /><br />I am not Catholic and do not have a parish priest.<br /><br />Get back to me when Catholicism is the official religion of the U.S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27310069474795236212013-03-20T05:27:25.325-05:002013-03-20T05:27:25.325-05:00Oh, I forgot to add, enjoy the decline, bitches!Oh, I forgot to add, enjoy the decline, bitches!kentuckylizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08110491371985845560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46791241632027779892013-03-20T05:26:31.686-05:002013-03-20T05:26:31.686-05:00The gay man facility owner can cancel the show but...The gay man facility owner can cancel the show but he still has to pay her. He signed a contract.<br /><br />Canada: minister arrested for teaching that homosexuality is a sin.<br /><br />The UK: religious retreat houses must provide married housing to gay couples (just like they're straight marrieds) even if their church teaches it's wrong.<br /><br />It's about more than just forcing churches to perform gay wedding ceremonies. It's bigger than you think.<br /><br />kentuckylizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08110491371985845560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45178459013126186862013-03-20T01:11:00.067-05:002013-03-20T01:11:00.067-05:00Epater les bourgeois, hein?Epater les bourgeois, hein?Balfegorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08012196656096263507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19772210523962886492013-03-19T22:15:40.467-05:002013-03-19T22:15:40.467-05:00"Or maybe, based on what you had argued up to..."<i>Or maybe, based on what you had argued up to that point he thought you had a different view than you in act hold.</i>"<br /><br />That might fly if--and <i>only</i> if--I hadn't already taken issue with dipshit officials who threatened to block Chick-Fil-A based on comments made by Cathy.<br /><br />Chickelit either didn't bother reading what I wrote and rushed in to get a "gotcha" or... well... there is no <i>or</i>. That's exactly what happened.<br /><br />Try again.The Scythianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10838229397619055117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76889944876460504502013-03-19T22:15:21.048-05:002013-03-19T22:15:21.048-05:00Youngblood said...
Chickelit was trying to score ...Youngblood said...<br /><br /><i>Chickelit was trying to score cheap points off of what she (or he?) thought my position was.</i><br /><br />Philly huh? Imagine that. LOL!chickelithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10773887469972534979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80640307548926503222013-03-19T22:11:48.631-05:002013-03-19T22:11:48.631-05:00I told you I could be wrong. I told you I could be wrong. sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48533130291044984372013-03-19T22:02:13.661-05:002013-03-19T22:02:13.661-05:00It means that to you, because that's what you ...It means that to you, because that's what you want it to mean.jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47039598702035827962013-03-19T21:53:54.324-05:002013-03-19T21:53:54.324-05:00pointing out the lefts hypocrisy and or inconciste...<i>pointing out the lefts hypocrisy and or inconcistencies does not mean support of Michele shocked.</i><br /><br />You're right it doesn't necessarily mean that among thinking people.<br /><br />Politically it means that however. Nuts.sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88286616077833237552013-03-19T21:48:28.866-05:002013-03-19T21:48:28.866-05:00Phx wrote:
This is about the hypocricy and one-wa...Phx wrote:<br /><br />This is about the hypocricy and one-way-street political bullshit of the "Diversity and Tolerance" crowd.<br /><br />This is just my opinion and I could be wrong. <br /><br />Politically that's a big fat losing argument for the right. Just for one thing they always have to end up defending the worst people in order to make it. And then it becomes apparent a lot of them DO like those people after all.<br /><br />Philosophically, or ethically, that would be an interesting argument for some objective and nonpartisan skilled thinkers to hash out. Although I'm not very smart I'll bet it's pretty simple shit. It's been done a million times but even coming on it for the first time the answer isn't difficult.<br /><br> pointing out the lefts hypocrisy and or inconcistencies does not mean support of Michele shocked.jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88845259606295923322013-03-19T21:46:51.021-05:002013-03-19T21:46:51.021-05:00Or maybe, based on what you had argued up to that ...Or maybe, based on what you had argued up to that point he thought you had a different view than you in act hold.jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7797009148164908502013-03-19T21:41:23.310-05:002013-03-19T21:41:23.310-05:00"for someone who,is therefore in agreement wi..."<i>for someone who,is therefore in agreement with the point, you seem to be awfully argumentative.</i>"<br /><br />Chickelit was trying to score cheap points off of what she (or he?) thought my position was.<br /><br />I am not in agreement with that shit, no.<br /><br />The Scythianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10838229397619055117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33296597754997323812013-03-19T21:25:52.551-05:002013-03-19T21:25:52.551-05:00This is about the hypocricy and one-way-street pol...<i>This is about the hypocricy and one-way-street political bullshit of the "Diversity and Tolerance" crowd.</i><br /><br />This is just my opinion and I could be wrong. <br /><br />Politically that's a big fat losing argument for the right. Just for one thing they always have to end up defending the worst people in order to make it. And then it becomes apparent a lot of them DO like those people after all.<br /><br />Philosophically, or ethically, that would be an interesting argument for some objective and nonpartisan skilled thinkers to hash out. Although I'm not very smart I'll bet it's pretty simple shit. It's been done a million times but even coming on it for the first time the answer isn't difficult. sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88028006198821201602013-03-19T21:23:36.272-05:002013-03-19T21:23:36.272-05:00Youngblood wrote:
I know that you thought that was...Youngblood wrote:<br />I know that you thought that was going to be a great "gotcha", but... yeah... sorry for ruining that, I guess.<br /><br> for someone who,is therefore in agreement with the point, you seem to be awfully argumentative. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70528226796665115632013-03-19T21:19:45.856-05:002013-03-19T21:19:45.856-05:00Matt wrote:
Um no. An argument against government ...Matt wrote:<br />Um no. An argument against government would criticize the government directly for getting involved in marriage rights. Saying that: it will be the downfall of civilization, and Jesus will come back....the world will be destroyed if gays are allowed to marry.... falls under homophobia and crazy. And not crazy because I don't agree with it. Crazy because it is weird and possibly hysterical. <br /><br> well that true. But in fact, the prayer group made the argument that they would be forced to maryr gays through govt coercion. Leaving aside what they might think about the end of he world, is that a) an argument that is that far fetched and b) one that can't be uttered in polite company without it being a sign that you hate gays?jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42646729437480135232013-03-19T20:53:08.115-05:002013-03-19T20:53:08.115-05:00Opposition to The Cause will not be tolerated.Opposition to The Cause will not be tolerated.SGT Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00184808889760136366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72610768403906927982013-03-19T20:51:08.114-05:002013-03-19T20:51:08.114-05:00No, no, no.
This is not about speech, people.
T...No, no, no.<br /><br />This is not about speech, people. <br /><br />This is about the hypocricy and one-way-street political bullshit of the "Diversity and Tolerance" crowd.<br />SGT Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00184808889760136366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10645131209194861972013-03-19T20:45:39.938-05:002013-03-19T20:45:39.938-05:00"Oh see where you're going with that. Pri..."<i>Oh see where you're going with that. Private business is inviolate and I agree. I hope you have the courage the stand up for that too.<br /><br />San Francisco Third City To Keep Out Chick-Fil-A. I know that was a while ago, but did they ever allow/invite them back?</i>"<br /><br />I hit that pointearlier. Do a search on this page for 'Chick-Fil-A' and you'll find that I blasted the mayors who said that they were going to block Chick-Fil-A earlier. <br /><br />Follow the comment thread a little past that, and you'll see where I said that politicians pulling that shit, even if they don't follow through, has a chilling effect on freedom of conscience.<br /><br />I know that you <i>thought</i> that was going to be a great "gotcha", but... yeah... sorry for ruining that, I guess.<br /><br />Of course, you can't keep yourself from turning Shocked's concert appearance into a free speech issue, if by implication this time. As I said earlier, public officials who threatened to block Chick-Fil-A were in clear violation of the First Amendment. That's a free speech issue. <br /><br />The owner of a <i>private</i> venue refusing to allow his venue to be used as a forum for speech that he disagrees with (and which is driving off his customers on top of that) is <i>not</i> a free speech issue. Nobody arrested Shocked, she wasn't thrown in jail or fined and (unlike Chick-Fil-A or Dan T. Cathy) no public officials made any threats.The Scythianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10838229397619055117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52401591119537388282013-03-19T20:33:56.853-05:002013-03-19T20:33:56.853-05:00I can remember when I was young that people went o...<i>I can remember when I was young that people went out to hear folk musicians speak the truth to power.<br /><br />Now, young people go out to hear folk musicians kiss ass and swear allegiance to the reigning ideology.</i><br /><br /><br />yes, yes, yes, a thousand times yes.<br /><br />What I loved about rock and roll in ther 60s-70s era(folk music too) was that the musicians very much had a "fuck you" attitude towards authority. That inspired my own life, musically as well. <br /><br />That changed in the 80s, starting with with 'Feed the World" and then going Full Stupid Ahead into leftist cause advocacy. It's been downhill ever since.<br /><br />Now they cheer leftwing politicans on stage. They make me want to puke.SGT Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00184808889760136366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46178942442423292602013-03-19T20:31:05.210-05:002013-03-19T20:31:05.210-05:00jr565
Are white supremacist views out of touch to...jr565<br /><br />Are white supremacist views out of touch to you? Where do you draw the line?<br /><br /><i>That isn't even an argument against gays at all, but against govt.</i><br /><br />Um no. An argument against government would criticize the government directly for getting involved in marriage rights. Saying that: <i>it will be the downfall of civilization, and Jesus will come back....the world will be destroyed if gays are allowed to marry....</i> falls under homophobia and crazy. And not crazy because I don't agree with it. Crazy because it is weird and possibly hysterical. <br /><br />On a similar note there some conspiracy nuts on the left who thought the Bush administration had a hand in the tragedies of 9/11. They are stupid and crazy. Even though I may agree with them on other issues.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04977662030208589392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26587550442265866672013-03-19T20:26:32.271-05:002013-03-19T20:26:32.271-05:00personally don't care about the political beli...personally don't care about the political beliefs of my favorite artists and musicians, and I feel sorry for people who filter their entertainment that way. That being said, I'd be put out by any artist who chose to include in the performance an irrelevant rant about politics. If you've got a song about starving babies in Africa, fine, but I don't want to hear lectures about it between songs<br /><br> in other words, Shut up and sing (wasnt that a book by Laura Ingrham). You're right, Michelle learned the hard way. But lets be honest, the audience was there to have Michelle give them lectures about politics in between the songs. They just thought they would be lectures about occupy Wall Street and not anti gay marriage.jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14090248485836689132013-03-19T20:18:44.480-05:002013-03-19T20:18:44.480-05:00Youngblood responded: Private citizens are allowed...Youngblood responded: <i>Private citizens are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want with their property, which includes shutting down a show when they disagree with the message and it's chasing customers away.</i><br /><br />Oh see where you're going with that. Private business is inviolate and I agree. I hope you have the courage the stand up for that too. <br /><br /><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/26/business/la-fi-mo-san-franciso-mayor-to-chickfila-keep-out-20120726" rel="nofollow">San Francisco Third City To Keep Out Chick-Fil-A</a>. I know that was a while ago, but did they ever allow/invite them back? Your precious Bay Area economy can't float the entire state. :)chickelithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10773887469972534979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52443905545848568092013-03-19T20:14:20.957-05:002013-03-19T20:14:20.957-05:00Oh well, know your audience. The Dixie Chicks pai...Oh well, know your audience. The Dixie Chicks paid the price and so will Michelle Shocked. <br /><br />I personally don't care about the political beliefs of my favorite artists and musicians, and I feel sorry for people who filter their entertainment that way. That being said, I'd be put out by any artist who chose to include in the performance an irrelevant rant about politics. If you've got a song about starving babies in Africa, fine, but I don't want to hear lectures about it between songs.Blue@9https://www.blogger.com/profile/16371286571496793710noreply@blogger.com