tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post4932093274506462414..comments2024-03-28T23:45:00.197-05:00Comments on Althouse: "We do know Hillary told her daughter Chelsea, well gosh, I knew it was a terrorist attack, while we were out telling the American people it wasn't."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14344424278392427452016-01-10T10:44:06.841-06:002016-01-10T10:44:06.841-06:00Raising children isn't rocket science. It'...Raising children isn't rocket science. It's not easy, but it is pretty simple. I say this as the proud grandfather of 7 wonderful kids, brought into the world by the three children my ex-wife and I raised, although I was a single parent for part of that time. Both of my daughters and my son graduated with technical degrees from good colleges, and are in stable, happy marriages. I tell you all this not to brag, but to establish that I do know what I'm talking about.<br /><br />I had to spank my son only once that I can recall, and I don't ever recall having to spank either daughter. When my children misbehaved, they had to stand in the corner, facing the wall, without moving or speaking, usually for two or five minutes. If they moved or spoke, the timer reset to zero and they still had to do the time. The idea is to teach them self control, not to hurt or humiliate them. They knew that they could never win an argument with me. If they disagreed with me about something in a calm and respectful manner, they might persuade me to their point of view, but I would never give in to a tantrum. That always resulted in corner time. I was consistent about this, and it worked.<br /><br />Of course, they also knew that they were loved and cherished, and that I was immensely proud of them when they did well. We played a lot together, had intelligent conversations, and we all strove to be as silly as possible whenever we could. And I tried to set a good example for them, by being the kind of person I hoped they would be.<br /><br />That's pretty much it. Please deposit your $5.00 for Jeff's all-purpose parenting advice in the can on your way out.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11691315256618262530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13013613954481950542016-01-10T07:06:44.315-06:002016-01-10T07:06:44.315-06:00Yes, Ann, we'll still need you and feed you af...Yes, Ann, we'll still need you and feed you after Tuesday.<br /><br />When I was a kid in the '50s my father used a belt on my bottom. Mum used a hairbrush. In almost all cases it was well-deserved. My paternal grandmother once made me go out into the yard and *cut* the switch that was to be my discipline. That was worse than the actual switching, which was only enough to sting a bit.<br /><br />Here's the point<b>:</b> They all believed "hands are for loving and helping". The use of a physical object not only kept their hands out of hurting people they loved ever-so-deeply, but provided a <b>circuit-breaker</b> for both sides. "Do I need to go get the belt (or brush), or are you going to LISTEN to what I'm telling you?" tended to do the job about 80 percent of the time.<br /><br />I remember one morning when I was about 8 yo and the Fuller Brush man showed up at the door. Mum was in the shower or something, so I told him to go away -- that her favorite brush had broken, the one she used on my bottom -- and I didn't want any *new* brushes around the house. He laughed, and came back a week later, telling my mother the story. She bought the brushes she needed, but never again applied one (or her hand) to my bottom.<br /><br />Younger sisters, yes, but she knew I was now ready to have rational discussions about childish behavior. Which we did until she could see the century mark just around the next corner.Bart Hall (Kansas, USA)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02147750474452837414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27442287022464227812016-01-10T02:21:48.878-06:002016-01-10T02:21:48.878-06:00nit-pickery Althouse. "Don't look at Hil...nit-pickery Althouse. "Don't look at Hillary the lying weasel, consider how Cruz brought up the topic instead". Cripes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11963784670018595492016-01-10T01:25:51.720-06:002016-01-10T01:25:51.720-06:00What Adrian Peterson did was more than just a span...What Adrian Peterson did was more than just a spanking, and it's disingenuous to conflate it with what Ted Cruz was talking about:<br /><br />> The beating resulted in multiple cuts and bruises on the <br />> boy’s lower body and defensive wounds on the child’s hands.<br /><br />[...]<br /><br />> Peterson confirmed that the child’s pants were down while he beat him.<br /><br /><a href="http://nesn.com/2014/09/adrian-peterson-beat-visibly-injured-4-year-old-son-with-tree-branch/" rel="nofollow">link</a><br />Dave in Tucsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02591277562652290966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91161868461322321122016-01-09T20:42:38.309-06:002016-01-09T20:42:38.309-06:00Corporal punishment, properly used, is a one-and-d...Corporal punishment, properly used, is a one-and-done physical unpleasant consequence in reinforcement of a needed lesson. It is administered without anger and then the matter is over with.<br /><br />Today's culture prefers the passive-aggressive approach. It pats itself on the back for "nonviolence," but revels in lingering mental, emotional and spiritual abuse.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575021285669012791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80111134042549052032016-01-09T19:16:33.224-06:002016-01-09T19:16:33.224-06:00Sammy when that big check arrives from Hillary, d...Sammy when that big check arrives from Hillary, don't spend it all in one place.Skeptical Voterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766112542617494866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-506422826080075752016-01-09T19:13:18.187-06:002016-01-09T19:13:18.187-06:00Finkelman,
Utter bilge.
Every other mission in Be...Finkelman,<br />Utter bilge. <br />Every other mission in Benghazi had pulled out and warned the Americans to leave, and the State Dept had been repeatedly asked for better security by the Ambassador. Such a request should have had the highest priority, especially in such a dangerous spot. Neglect and inefficiency enough to put an end to the public careers of everyone in the chain of command. Everything afterwards was coverup.<br />This is as clear as sunlight to anyone but those self blinded by partisan interest, including the satanic media. buwayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369134902650235470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88440171699569469452016-01-09T19:01:22.552-06:002016-01-09T19:01:22.552-06:00I was once on a school board where we held hearing...I was once on a school board where we held hearings on the subject of spanking. One teacher commented that she had never once spanked a child in over 20 years of teaching. However, she continued that the reason that she didn't have to spank was that the students knew she could if she had to. The board voted to continue to allow spanking under certain conditions.ken in txhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345764031059905578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7804350395569791982016-01-09T18:28:36.899-06:002016-01-09T18:28:36.899-06:00As an immigrant, Cruz should be careful of talking...As an immigrant, Cruz should be careful of talking about the Hispanic culture of beating children, and then extrapolating that to the State Department, and woman who have bought their positions through political favors.<br />Etiennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02463542962653770911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47261415462561238022016-01-09T17:55:58.130-06:002016-01-09T17:55:58.130-06:00Ted Cruz didn't say he spanked her.
The na...Ted Cruz didn't say <i> he </i> spanked her. <br /><br />The nanny, or maybe soem female relative, does.Sammy Finkelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05105012664741556033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6349199280948323922016-01-09T17:51:16.647-06:002016-01-09T17:51:16.647-06:00The State Department, under Hillary Clinton, did f...The State Department, under Hillary Clinton, did fight the CIA on the content of the "talking points" - <b> but not on this issue </b><br /><br />The State Department wanted to make a correction on the status of the place where Ambassador Christopher stevens had been staying. It was <i> <b> NOT </b></i> a consulate, the State Department wished to clarify - no visas were issued from there - but a "mission." <br /><br />This was probably important to explain wy it has less security than a consulate would have.<br /><br />The State Department also was concerned that the CIA not make it appear that they had warned of a possible attack. And in truth they really had not, except in general terms.<br /><br />But the State Department was not interested in pointing out that there had been no demonstration in Benghazi. That was one bridge too far for Hillary Clinton. It didn't impact her reputation. Sammy Finkelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05105012664741556033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18603478228061425252016-01-09T17:43:56.576-06:002016-01-09T17:43:56.576-06:00What she did has even been justified by Congressma...What she did has even been justified by Congressman Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and also one of the members of the Benghazi (Trey) Committee.<br /><br />http://www.cbsnews.com/news/face-the-nation-transcripts-october-25-trump-christie-nunes-schiff/<br /><br />Page down till...<br /><br /><b> [Adam] SCHIFF [D-Calif]: ….The early claims by Ansar al-Sharia responsibility … were very quickly followed with human intelligence, signals intelligence, open source reporting, that there was a protest. It wasn’t until about eight to ten days after the events where we actually got the tapes from the compound that we could see, quite demonstrably on those tapes, that there had been no protests. <br /><br />But it was the — the considered judgment, the assessment of the intelligence experts for that week until we got those tapes, that there had been a protest. And that turned out to be wrong. </b> <br /><br />Now, Hillary Clinton, and everybody else high up in the State Department, of course, did not believe any of this. They <i> <b> knew </b></i> ? not thought, but <i> <b> knew </b></i> there had not been any protest preceding the attack.<br /><br />The State Department had been in contact with the mission in Benghazi and knew it was a surprise attack.<br /><br />Now what does this Democrat argue?<br /><br /><b> But to criticize Secretary Clinton for relying on the best of intelligence that we had at the time seemed to be wholly inappropriate. Had she had spoken, frankly, in contradiction of what our intelligence agencies were telling her, that might be something to criticize… </b> <br /><br />!!!! <br /><br />Who do you believe – the CIA or your own eyes? <br /><br />Obviously, according to Adam Schiff, it should be the CIA, or at least that is what you should tell the public when you <i> <b> know </b></i> not just think but <i> <b> know </b></i> that the CIA is wrong!<br /><br />And it is apparently no business of the Secretary of State to tell the president or anybody in the administration she serves that the CIA is wrong. <br /><br />Sammy Finkelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05105012664741556033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89644720440906910992016-01-09T17:40:03.490-06:002016-01-09T17:40:03.490-06:00"We do know Hillary told her daughter Chelsea...<b> "We do know Hillary told her daughter Chelsea, well gosh, I knew it was a terrorist attack, while we were out telling the American people it wasn't." </b> <br /><br />There's one problem with that - a very serious problem. That's what they thought the day of the attack and into the next day.<br /><br />But then they <i> <b> unlearned </b></i> <br /><br />This flummmoxed Mitt Romney and it seems like a lot of Republican prefer this simple story - they knew it was a terrorist attack on September 12, and everybpdy agreed that it was laterm so surely they should have known it in the time in between.<br /><br />Not true. Well, maybe not true except for Hillary who knew, for one thing, that there was no demonstration.<br /><br />In the September 14-17, 2012 period all sorts of <b> Sooper Sekrit Intelligence </b> and the CIA reported it was a spontaneous and unplenned attack, inspired by what went on in Cairo.<br /><br />That was the "best available intelligence" by definition. Of course it was actually just the highest rated intelligence.<br /><br />Hillary has an explanation for what she did, that she's not being all too clear about now (she's assuming you know background facts) but she could be expected to get clear about it later.<br /><br />The assessemnt of this as a terrorist act was in large part based on a claim of responsibilty by Ansar al Sharia on its Facebook page. But that claim was later retracted, or repudiated, and the CIA accepted the retraction.<br /><br />Hillary did know that the CIA was wrong. Badly wrong. For a bunch of reasons. She may even have strongly suspected who exactly was behind it.<br /><br />But she didn't want to contradict the CIA. And she didn't want to fight it. <br /><br />But she was very careful with what she said in public.Sammy Finkelmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05105012664741556033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12033672518681924642016-01-09T17:36:59.824-06:002016-01-09T17:36:59.824-06:00It depends totally on the child. One of my sons wo...It depends totally on the child. One of my sons would just get angrier. The other son I only spanked once, when he bit a babysitter.<br /><br />One daughter would dissolve in tears with a harsh look.<br /><br />I don't know the details of the Adrian Peterson case and you two seem to, but I have always believed he was making an effort with the kid when most pro athletes never see their myriad children.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70360996609792453302016-01-09T17:34:27.518-06:002016-01-09T17:34:27.518-06:00Rusty said...
Which is why your wife spanked the k...<i>Rusty said...<br />Which is why your wife spanked the kids.</i><br /><br />I would not marry a woman who would hit a child. Parents are bigger and smarter than their children and, at least in principle, have better control of their emotions. Given these advantages if a parent truly can't raise a child without hitting them then they should be excluded from the breeding pool. If they can train killer whales to do stupid shit without hitting them, it should not be beyond the capabilities of the average person to get a toddler to behave reasonably.<br /><br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87972648976380442522016-01-09T17:33:16.697-06:002016-01-09T17:33:16.697-06:00What I want to know, is does Ted Cruz put his daug...What I want to know, is does Ted Cruz put his daughter in a carrier on the roof of the car?MathMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12418059046929654822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72781181534821552612016-01-09T17:20:12.686-06:002016-01-09T17:20:12.686-06:00Forget the Cruz children. Hillary! is a liar and ...Forget the Cruz children. Hillary! is a liar and should be spanked. Yes, I know she's undoubtedly too old for punishment to change her behavior, but if she's sent to bed without her supper and without the presidency, maybe she'll learn something (not likely she'll learn, I know, but it's worth trying).The Godfatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10575359417766667457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9195845913133686882016-01-09T16:50:39.873-06:002016-01-09T16:50:39.873-06:00I knew a family. No corporal punishment, but the d...I knew a family. No corporal punishment, but the dad would yell and shout, holding and haranguing the kids at the top of his voice. The daughter sure turned out crazy. Michael Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02359671665534774344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89419569026208732592016-01-09T16:26:48.694-06:002016-01-09T16:26:48.694-06:00Could Cruz even administer a spanking with those d...Could Cruz even administer a spanking with those dainty little Harvard debater's hands? He might hurt himself. garage mahalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485491995866513686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39991087658881955852016-01-09T16:12:39.039-06:002016-01-09T16:12:39.039-06:00Not only did he drag his own daughter into the fra...Not only did he drag his own daughter into the fray, he dragged Hillary's daughter into it too! What kind of psychotic misogynist is this guy? Dragging women around, bragging about beating up a 5-year old girl- #WarOnWomenAndChildrenMichael Fitzgeraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02359671665534774344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47525769092699420092016-01-09T16:12:26.535-06:002016-01-09T16:12:26.535-06:00@Meade, I think the White House would be a marvelo...@Meade, I think the White House would be a marvelous place to raise two small girls as sweet as the Cruz kids. Have you forgotten the Kennedy kids so quickly?Big Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831645119853118904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59945959559193124352016-01-09T16:11:17.431-06:002016-01-09T16:11:17.431-06:00Three things I really despise when I come across t...Three things I really despise when I come across them:<br /><br />1) A two year old toddler throwing a screaming tantrum and totally out of control, while Mommy tries earnestly to explain why whatever he wants can't be given to him. (Usually it's a boy, hence my choice of the third person masculine pronoun, though when a girl gets into a tantrum it can be quite something to behold.) Lady, the kid is too young to process logic and too out of control anyway. Give him a swat on the butt or take him out of there, but have a thought for the rest of us.<br /><br />2) A young child, pre-school to adolescent, who is hit in public by a parent. At that point the children are old enough to process logic and you can punish them in private later without publicly humiliating them. When you see this behavior on the part of an adult you are looking at a person from a very lower class background, regardless of whether their skin is black or white (I've seen both, and numerous times, in my nearly 70 years on this planet).<br /><br />3) A childless person, or someone whose child-rearing days are long in the rear view mirror, pontificating about how wrong it is to spank a child. The former doesn't know what it's like to raise a child, and the latter has probably forgotten about the times they spanked their kids.Big Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831645119853118904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52779882884252864492016-01-09T15:58:26.594-06:002016-01-09T15:58:26.594-06:00AReasonableMan said...
Hitting children is sick.
...AReasonableMan said...<br />Hitting children is sick.<br /><br />Which is why your wife spanked the kids.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10851462471169820292016-01-09T15:48:56.328-06:002016-01-09T15:48:56.328-06:00Cruz manages to cite both his kid and his opponent...Cruz manages to cite both his kid and his opponents kid in one fell swoop.<br /><br />Wasn't he just complaining about people talking about his kid? Is he trying to invite more discussion, or just making a quote that will embarrass his kid forever?Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10082613626960562059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30788006448020081002016-01-09T15:38:10.323-06:002016-01-09T15:38:10.323-06:00First and only time I spanked my children was the ...First and only time I spanked my children was the first time they bold-faced lied to me. It was an instinctive, swift, swat on the rear. <br />Now in their late 20's, both remember it. And both say they still remember their particular lie--and that they still cannot fathom why they lied! They say <i>knew</i> they were lying--consciously made the decision to fib. <br /><br />In today's culture, I don't think Cruz did himself or his family any favors by making this statement. Sure, there's an enormous difference between a spanking and a beating (as my son-in-law did to my little granddaughter--ripped my heart apart and I'll never be the same, may he rot in hell) however, with the lefty-types the main employees of CPS, Cruz better walk that one back and be careful. Captain Dranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04330593370551304799noreply@blogger.com