tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post4770887970400077675..comments2024-03-28T13:48:15.751-05:00Comments on Althouse: Posing at the White House.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger104125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1640573604737107322017-04-21T10:34:42.207-05:002017-04-21T10:34:42.207-05:00OK, OK, due to overwhelming popular demand ;-) I w...OK, OK, due to overwhelming popular demand ;-) I will tell you what is most interesting:<br /><br />There is (as of yet) no photo of the visitors posing in a disrespectful way with a portrait of Obama. <br /><br />That is interesting.<br /><br />Hillary is disliked, even within her own party. I suspect there are many on the left who secretly sympathize with the sentiments of the visitors, even as they (correctly) condemn the visitors for impolite behavior. This picture is likely to be viewed favorably overall.<br /><br />The anger at a similarly posed picture with a portrait of Obama would be more heartfelt, and more widely spread, including among some groups that the Republicans are eager to win over (blue collar minorities, women, Obama voters, and so on)<br /><br />Now this may just be luck. Perhaps they did not think to pose with an Obama portrait, or there was no Obama portrait available. But Trump seems to be very "lucky" in these matters of public image. <br />TestTubehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16763699098149738488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81545056195648554362017-04-21T10:34:01.212-05:002017-04-21T10:34:01.212-05:00OK, OK, due to overwhelming popular demand ;-) I w...OK, OK, due to overwhelming popular demand ;-) I will tell you what is most interesting:<br /><br />There is (as of yet) no photo of the visitors posing in a disrespectful way with a portrait of Obama. <br /><br />That is interesting.<br /><br />Hillary is disliked, even within her own party. I suspect there are many on the left who secretly sympathize with the sentiments of the visitors, even as they (correctly) condemn the visitors for impolite behavior. This picture is likely to be viewed favorably overall.<br /><br />The anger at a similarly posed picture with a portrait of Obama would be more heartfelt, and more widely spread, including among some groups that the Republicans are eager to win over (blue collar minorities, women, Obama voters, and so on)<br /><br />Now this may just be luck. Perhaps they did not think to pose with an Obama portrait, or there was no Obama portrait available. But Trump seems to be very "lucky" in these matters of public image. <br />TestTubehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16763699098149738488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24321492167993497472017-04-21T09:20:30.959-05:002017-04-21T09:20:30.959-05:00Powerline has the Oval Office photo up and it is...Powerline has the <a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/04/how-to-drive-the-left-insane-part-12895.php" rel="nofollow"> Oval Office photo up </a> and it is an enjoyable experience.<br />Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57693041835009873192017-04-21T07:37:54.910-05:002017-04-21T07:37:54.910-05:00I am most interested in what is NOT there.
Or rat...I am most interested in what is NOT there.<br /><br />Or rather, the picture that was NOT taken.<br /><br />Any guesses what is missing that piques my interest?TestTubehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16763699098149738488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4910505991173367052017-04-21T06:36:05.233-05:002017-04-21T06:36:05.233-05:00As Iowahawk said: This can only be described as t...As Iowahawk said: This can only be described as the Manhattan Project of trollingrwnutjobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07817731941205249461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1241392114420695322017-04-21T00:03:22.582-05:002017-04-21T00:03:22.582-05:00If the left did not have double standards, they w...If the left did not have double standards, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/thebenfergusonshow/photos/rpp.95356211637/10154983089896638/?type=3&theater" rel="nofollow"> they would have no standards at all.</a>Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39045054570376095812017-04-20T22:52:43.507-05:002017-04-20T22:52:43.507-05:00Why are Democrats so dumb?
"http://thehill.co...Why are Democrats so dumb?<br />"http://thehill.com/homenews/news/barack-obama-photographer-pete-souza-sarah-palin-ted-nugent-kid-rock-being-respectful"<br />Souza apparently thinks that Hillary was president.<br />I never thought I would think of the GOP as the smart party, but someone has to fill the vacuum.Lewis Wetzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200232293505119133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53674875488948570342017-04-20T22:04:16.478-05:002017-04-20T22:04:16.478-05:00I sympathize with the concern expressed by Chuck a...I sympathize with the concern expressed by Chuck and Inga. I can only imagine how upsetting it must be to see a photo like that. Did you notice how Kid Rock posed so that it appears that Hillary is laying a maternal hand on his shoulder. What a mabtre touch. I certainly hope that President Trump doesn't get in the habit of posing before this portrait with prospective Supreme Court nominees. That would not serve to bind our nation's wounds. It would be even worse if he used that portrait as a backdrop when he signed some executive order mandating the use of American steel on some new pipeline......But it's good that Chuck and Inga have a place to vent their feelings. It's not good to keep such feelings bottled up. Do they bring on a tension headache or is it more like nausea? Please, share these feelings with all of us. People here are sympathetic. Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72036280649706216552017-04-20T21:34:18.520-05:002017-04-20T21:34:18.520-05:00"lifelong republican" and Rachel Maddow ..."lifelong republican" and Rachel Maddow fanboy Chuck: "I guess the only reason that I thought that TrumpWorld would think that it was some world-class hilarious trolling of Hillary, to pull off that photo, was because....."<br /><br />...You have been wrong about everything for the last 18 months and thought, hey, it's probably best to maintain your "perfect" record?Dragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079148433908004715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33381432880755926002017-04-20T20:02:44.263-05:002017-04-20T20:02:44.263-05:00I wonder what evil, cruel, mocking message is the ...I wonder what evil, cruel, mocking message is the real story behind this picture?<br />http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/favreau_gropes_clinton_cardboard_cutout/<br />That's mocking the sexual assault of a women, is what that that is. Favreau should be in jail. Maybe he will be, some day.Lewis Wetzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200232293505119133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59362220810566011882017-04-20T19:59:48.649-05:002017-04-20T19:59:48.649-05:00That is pretty funny but it doesn't come close...That is pretty funny but it doesn't come close to the humor of getting a blow job from an intern while you are on the phone with an influential congressman who himself was getting his ashes hauled. I tried and failed to work rising in there. Sorry.glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00993381999736874161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75826751899700777242017-04-20T19:31:22.632-05:002017-04-20T19:31:22.632-05:00The aging rockstars and no-longer-in-office politi...The aging rockstars and no-longer-in-office politicos of the left won't just be posing risibly in the White house; they'll be able to pose in the Trump Memorial on the National Mall (I think there's a space between the new African American Museum and the Washington Monument.)hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09683425888380610689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84471208727600650572017-04-20T19:21:57.798-05:002017-04-20T19:21:57.798-05:00CWJ-
I guess the only reason that I thought that ...CWJ-<br /><br />I guess the only reason that I thought that TrumpWorld would think that it was some world-class hilarious trolling of Hillary, to pull off that photo, was because the bible of TrumpWorld, Brietbart News, used the word "Troll" in a headline for the story.<br /><br />Whereupon, about 4 or 5 thousand Breitbart/Trump fans all piled on with their congratulations, on such world-class hilarious trolling. Like so:<br /><br />http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/20/sarah-palin-kid-rock-ted-nugent-visit-trump-troll-hillary/<br />Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07676108366725199186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80679225756060356782017-04-20T18:44:40.034-05:002017-04-20T18:44:40.034-05:00Chuck wrote -
"To your second point, about t...Chuck wrote -<br /><br />"To your second point, about the photograph in question. And you wondered what the insult, or the humor, could possibly be, if Clooney, Streep and Franken posed in front of a Trump portrait? You think that would be an unremarkable photo? Do Trump fans think that the Palin/Nugent/KidRock photo was an unremarkable one? Of course it isn't. It's a message. A statement."<br /><br />Oh bullshit. I don't speak for anyone else, but I see this actual photo as no more than amusing. As for the hypothetical, I might or might not find that amusing as well. Probably not. But a message? A statement? Please. Go back to counting who is or who is not on Lenin's tomb on Mayday.CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63616037188949195622017-04-20T18:14:02.268-05:002017-04-20T18:14:02.268-05:00Lucien said...
I don't understand the point be...<i>Lucien said...<br />I don't understand the point being raised by LLR Chuck. Hillary's portrait is hanging in the White House - and will always hang in the White House - because she was a FLOTUS. <br /><br />Therefore, the only reason this photo is funny/offensive is the context that Hillary tried to go from FLOTUS to POTUS, in a repudiation of the American tradition that we have no aristocracy and no royal family. In a country of 300 million people, the notion that the best candidate for President is a previous President's wife is absolutely outrageous. There is a 1 in 300 million chance that is the case and nothing about Hillary suggests America won the lottery.<br /><br />So to LLR Chuck's hypothetical, if three well known celebrity Democrats - let's say George Clooney, Al Franken, and Merryl Streep - posed in the future in front of a White House picture of President Trump in exactly the same way as Kid Rock, Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent - smiling, arms crossed, no obscene gestures... Umm, okay? Where's the insult?<br /></i><br /><br />Let's start with your first, good point. <i>Of course</i> the portrait of Hillary Clinton hangs in the White House. My understanding is that there is an East Wing gallery where the FLOTUS portraits normally hang. And that all modern FLOTUS portraits are viewable. Is that where this photo was taken? Is that where the Mrs. Clinton portrait hangs right now? There was a time, in the Bush Administration, when the Clinton portrait hung in the Cross Hall.<br /><br />I'm not sure if a portrait of every president hangs in the White House at present. I defer to anyone who knows. The WH Collection has portraits of all of them, I'm quite sure, although some may be owned by other museums and federal agencies. I'm just not sure if all are on display in areas open to visitors. Visitors like the Motor City Madman.<br /><br />To your second point, about the photograph in question. And you wondered what the insult, or the humor, could possibly be, if Clooney, Streep and Franken posed in front of a Trump portrait? You think that would be an unremarkable photo? Do Trump fans think that the Palin/Nugent/KidRock photo was an unremarkable one? Of course it isn't. It's a message. A statement. I just have to say; as you seem to have correctly caught on, it is a message because Hillary lost. It wouldn't be a message (and the photo would never have existed) if Hillary had won. The comparison, to a photo taken in front of a Trump portrait by some lefty celebrity ideologues, would not be the same, unless the photo was taken in April of 2021 after a Trump electoral loss. Or after a Trump assassination, or something like that.<br /><br />Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07676108366725199186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53342881659689104252017-04-20T17:19:40.555-05:002017-04-20T17:19:40.555-05:00Chuck,
"So if, in a future Administration, t...Chuck,<br /><br />"So if, in a future Administration, the official portrait of Donald Trump is placed somewhere,"<br /><br />Not sure where you're going with that analogy. You do realize that Hillary lost, don't you? exhelodrvr1https://www.blogger.com/profile/15874052265934108903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3929362335038351692017-04-20T17:14:04.357-05:002017-04-20T17:14:04.357-05:00I don't understand the point being raised by L...I don't understand the point being raised by LLR Chuck. Hillary's portrait is hanging in the White House - and will always hang in the White House - because she was a FLOTUS. <br /><br />Therefore, the only reason this photo is funny/offensive is the context that Hillary tried to go from FLOTUS to POTUS, in a repudiation of the American tradition that we have no aristocracy and no royal family. In a country of 300 million people, the notion that the best candidate for President is a previous President's wife is absolutely outrageous. There is a 1 in 300 million chance that is the case and nothing about Hillary suggests America won the lottery.<br /><br />So to LLR Chuck's hypothetical, if three well known celebrity Democrats - let's say George Clooney, Al Franken, and Merryl Streep - posed in the future in front of a White House picture of President Trump in exactly the same way as Kid Rock, Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent - smiling, arms crossed, no obscene gestures... Umm, okay? Where's the insult?Lucienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07179764534248144368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45586776831673930152017-04-20T17:09:44.593-05:002017-04-20T17:09:44.593-05:00I heard that when Trump moved into the White House...I heard that when Trump moved into the White House he called up the Clintons and offered to send them the painting, but Bill answered and he said 'no, keep it.'<br />That's what I heard anyway.Lewis Wetzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200232293505119133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77755559091676134382017-04-20T16:49:35.633-05:002017-04-20T16:49:35.633-05:00Question to ask yourself: would you say something ...Question to ask yourself: would you say something kind or unkind if they posted a picture of Palin standing in front of President Bush? Or Carter? Or Nixon? Or Coolidge? How about Polk? Madison?<br />Then, in this thought experiment, ask yourself what would you say if someone suggested that they could have posted a pic standing with Ms Clinton's portrait.<br />If you find yourself damning A and damning B, well there you go. I think the patience at seeing this behaviour, for decades now, has worn a few people to not worry about the perpetual damning. Try less damning.D 2https://www.blogger.com/profile/06176569163582096697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29546460078712386082017-04-20T16:10:52.830-05:002017-04-20T16:10:52.830-05:00Hillary looks a lot slimmer in the portrait than i...Hillary looks a lot slimmer in the portrait than in real life. It's like Barry Alvarez's statue outside Camp Randall; they left off his paunch.Original Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714345479248980398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86341254604506469032017-04-20T15:49:19.962-05:002017-04-20T15:49:19.962-05:00Please tell me this "Shemane Nugent" Whi...Please tell me this "Shemane Nugent" White House photo is actually from Saturday Night LiveEarnest Prolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07784404737843553158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17300838887748313662017-04-20T14:29:25.733-05:002017-04-20T14:29:25.733-05:00Doesn't look crooked to me.
The frame looks l...Doesn't look crooked to me.<br /><br />The frame looks like it's parallel to the marble slabs in the wall, which one <i>hopes</i> are at right angles to the ground and such.Sigivaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152366541957466049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18679927210196941452017-04-20T13:54:17.163-05:002017-04-20T13:54:17.163-05:00Buwaya, it's a bit like all those "modera...Buwaya, it's a bit like all those "moderate Muslims" who would never blow up infidels themselves but don't mind terribly much when the Terrorists do it. The "liberals" here and in Berkeley wouldn't have the guts to beat up a Trump supporter themselves but they just can't bring themselves to condemn those who do. No wonder the Left has taken Islam to its collective bosom. They have the same mindset.exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03996979470278945904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64309420693298122262017-04-20T13:46:16.091-05:002017-04-20T13:46:16.091-05:00First of all, how are they posing disrespectfully...First of all, how are they posing disrespectfully? They're standing in front of the portrait grinning and, it's funny because of who they are and of who Hillary is, but they're not giving her the finger, like those AIDS Activists did with Reagan or grabbing Hillarys boob, like those Obama staffers did with Hillarys cutout. They're not even holding up a sign that says "Ha! We won!" Or "Ding dong the witch is dead." <br /><br /><br />It's mockery but it's not obscene or sexist, like leftist mockery of conservatives is. But it's enough to send Once Written into a tizzy and Chuck into full Miss Manners pearl clutch (. Because nice Republicans don't do such things!!!). So it's a pretty good. joke. All the right people are upset. Or, rather, "Outraged!,<br />exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03996979470278945904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42652296549920141612017-04-20T13:40:06.086-05:002017-04-20T13:40:06.086-05:00Chuck, thanks for bringing that up. Seeing Inga an...Chuck, thanks for bringing that up. Seeing Inga and the others in a rage over three people for <i>posing</i> in front of the Clinton portrait is a hilarious example of overreach compared to AIDS' activists posing themselves extending the middle finger in front of the Reagan portrait.<br /><br />How can we tell Inga is in a rage? Because she brought it up. She sees three people posing, with smiles, politely, in front of HRC, and hears a dog whistle that says, "They're mocking her! HOW DARE THEY!"<br /><br />And, yes, Republicans are generally nicer about winning and getting along. That's why the Democrats roll over them so easily. <br /><br />Fortunately, I'm not a doctrinaire Republican, so I'm happy to continue saying that Hillary Will Never Be President. And now that we know from "Shattered," that she ordered her minions in 2008 to read the emails stored on her campaign's servers to find out who's been leaking stories to the press, we've learned that she's lied to us about her knowledge of her emails in 2012. <br /><br />Imagine her carrying on Obama's intelligence-gathering operations from the Oval Office. Bill Peschelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15257587479467531187noreply@blogger.com