tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post476381092885160840..comments2024-03-28T03:13:37.212-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Do Not Feed Donuts To Your Obese Children."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78807242878265658432011-01-25T23:45:40.282-06:002011-01-25T23:45:40.282-06:00"But there's a difference between an inbo..."But there's a difference between an inborn propensity to act in a particular way and doing that action. People *can* resist their desires -- both to eat and to engage in sex. I don't see a big difference between bullying someone for getting fat (giving into a propensity to eat) and bullying someone for being openly gay (manifesting what could be kept secret). If you think it's different to bully the fat and to bully the apparently gay, must it not be because you think it's okay to be one thing but not the other?"<br /><br />Well, this whole time, the comparison has been between one propensity (gay) and one manifestation (fat). But I guess if you want to compare apples to apples (flamboyant to fat? or gay to lazy/hungry?), then maybe you have a point. <br /><br />I'm not totally convinced though. These days like 50% of people are big fatties, at least. The percentage has been far less than that throughout the vast majority of human existence. We could still eat the same stuff we ate 100 or 5000 years ago, but most of us don't. Has the propensity changed? Or have choices?JesusIsJustAlrightWithMehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07943373959282558773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16612050263711401692011-01-22T05:23:12.316-06:002011-01-22T05:23:12.316-06:00Ok, I'll meet you half way. Gay boys put stuff...Ok, I'll meet you half way. Gay boys put stuff in their mouths because of bad food choices.AllenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08848966772462502893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86530053899118861242011-01-21T21:46:32.789-06:002011-01-21T21:46:32.789-06:00AllenS said...
Homosexual boys are a result o...<i>AllenS said...<br /><br /> Homosexual boys are a result of overbearing mothers. Fat boys are a result of mothers bad choices of food products.</i><br /><br />So gay boys put stuff in their mouths because they are hungry. Fat boys put stuff in their mouths because they are hungry too. Fat gay boys put stuff in their mouths because they are hungry.Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80775825104452569912011-01-21T21:44:36.146-06:002011-01-21T21:44:36.146-06:00JesusIsJustAlrightWithMe said...
The obvious ...<i>JesusIsJustAlrightWithMe said...<br /><br /> The obvious difference is that being gay is not a choice and being fat (in the vast majority of cases) is a choice.</i><br /><br />Can you please point me to the genetic proof of either? kthxbye.Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2857238818028529382011-01-21T19:16:59.622-06:002011-01-21T19:16:59.622-06:00There are some random and bizarre opinions about t...There are some random and bizarre opinions about the genesis homosexuality in this thread!<br /><br />For example, what about the gay males in the military? They are hardly emulating "mommy," or *any* abstract female ideal...<br /><br />And I remember several boys and girls who were bullied in grade school; none of them turned out to be gay, for goodness sake!<br /><br />I was driving by a group of middle-school kids walking home from school and one kid was obviously tormenting another one. It made me sick to my stomach. Bullying is awful. I hate to think it's a "necessary" rite-of-passage. <br /><br />Not that it's avoidable. Sadly, it probably is.knoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231876226573540476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8581172975498937652011-01-21T19:10:40.375-06:002011-01-21T19:10:40.375-06:00Except zero tolerance is screwing it all up. What ...<i>Except zero tolerance is screwing it all up. What kind of lesson will kids learn when you get in as much trouble for defending yourself as you do for attacking someone?<br /><br /></i>Bingo. When your kid can get expelled, it's not so easy to say "punch them in the nose."knoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231876226573540476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58981123544980363642011-01-21T16:52:34.873-06:002011-01-21T16:52:34.873-06:00Bullying that song is not.Bullying that song is not.themightypuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03288837159628526731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43427588361601015792011-01-21T16:45:05.150-06:002011-01-21T16:45:05.150-06:00I think that being bullied contributes to boys dec...I think that being bullied contributes to boys deciding that they're gay. They've called gay by their peers during their formative years.<br /><br />As to the video, what's with all those up-skirt shots at the beginning?ASThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14591247136037620408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25495072832539348672011-01-21T16:23:16.078-06:002011-01-21T16:23:16.078-06:00Dan Savage in "Foreign Policy"? What. Th...Dan Savage in "Foreign Policy"? What. The. Hell?Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05777570055677374834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78962404079348371702011-01-21T16:11:28.629-06:002011-01-21T16:11:28.629-06:00Attention whore? I think Savage wants that chisele...Attention whore? I think Savage wants that chiseled onto his gravestone. <br /><br />He scored a feature in <a href="http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/01/20/confessions_of_a_sexaholic" rel="nofollow">Foreign Policy</a> today.Peter Hohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06916196998855947137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88803225121372668372011-01-21T15:56:28.501-06:002011-01-21T15:56:28.501-06:00He could rescue 100 babies from a burning building...He could rescue 100 babies from a burning building, but for me, Dan Savage will always be "that doorknob-licking asshole." <br /><br />Also, a bit of an attention whore.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05777570055677374834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2600647802842609112011-01-21T15:47:29.351-06:002011-01-21T15:47:29.351-06:00I've never had a Cinnabon. Now I want one.
I ...<i>I've never had a Cinnabon. Now I want one.</i><br /><br />I used to love them but the last time I had one it was awful. Of course, now that I discovered the pioneer woman cooks cinnamon rolls I am just concentrating on perfecting homemade cinnamon rolls.Shannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15709594638793030086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47095885251481991512011-01-21T15:22:56.269-06:002011-01-21T15:22:56.269-06:00DBQ, great story. Would that every parent were abl...DBQ, great story. Would that every parent were able to talk to their children that way.Peter Hohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06916196998855947137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49688881851272319362011-01-21T14:57:34.381-06:002011-01-21T14:57:34.381-06:00I've never had a Cinnabon. Now I want one.
W...I've never had a Cinnabon. Now I want one.<br /><br />When my daughter became involved in a bullying episode, in third grade, I had to sit down with her and discuss what was happening.<br /><br />They were tormenting a girl who had very bad clothing and hygiene. Her parents were drug addled and abusive worthless shits. The poor girl was getting herself together for school and basically raising herself. (Eventually and thankfully, she was removed and the Grandparents took her in... happy ending for her)<br /><br />I wanted to instill empathy in my daughter for the other girl. By asking questions like:<br /><br />Why are the other girls picking on the victim? (She's dirty and smelly.) <br /><br />Do you know that she doesn't have a mommy or daddy who are loving her or taking care of her like you do? No one is making her lunch or combing her hair or anything. <br /><br />Her life at home is hard enough without everyone piling on. <br /><br />Put yourself in her shoes.....How would YOU like to be treated this way.<br /><br />What are you going to do this? Are you going to just stand by and let the others make her miserable?<br /><br />You don't have to make her your friend. If you let them do it when you are there, it is just like you did it yourself and I would be very ashamed of you. (You think Jewish mothers can lay on the guilt? They can't hold a candle to Catholic mothers )<br /><br />I was quite proud of my child when she stood up to the others and stopped them from bullying the poor girl.<br /><br />It is a tough decision to make this type of stand, because you run the risk of becoming one of the bullied as well.Dust Bunny Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13341429444562280127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2458501859312072482011-01-21T14:11:16.920-06:002011-01-21T14:11:16.920-06:00There is nothing that can be done about childhood ...<i>There is nothing that can be done about childhood bullying.</i><br /><br />We may not be able to stomp it out, but that doesn’t mean anyone should encourage kids to be savages. <br /><br /><i>Bullying is something kids should learn to deal with. Punching a bully in the nose should be encouraged; </i><br /><br />Indeed. Not only does it teach the bullied kid how to take care of themselves, it teaches the bully that some people fight back, and maybe they should not be such an asshole. Win/Win! Except zero tolerance is screwing it all up. What kind of lesson will kids learn when you get in as much trouble for defending yourself as you do for attacking someone?Shannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15709594638793030086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5026380056706938992011-01-21T13:30:01.508-06:002011-01-21T13:30:01.508-06:00@BJM
My goal, with my own children, is not only g...@BJM<br /><br />My goal, with my own children, is not only give them strength of body and character to defend themselves, but the wisdom to know when and how much to push back. It's this last, I believe, that is the true mark of maturity.Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08871331702531675368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52308641011866701942011-01-21T13:25:05.104-06:002011-01-21T13:25:05.104-06:00@Scott M
My point simply being that it's bett...@Scott M<br /><br /><i>My point simply being that it's better to concentrate on teaching your kids the appropriate responses to a bully, which is what I think parents have traditionally done, along with honor, the weight of one's word, etc, versus all the hand-wringing done about bullies these days. I'm trying to point out where the emphasis of effort on our part as parents should be.</i><br /><br />I absolutely agree, bullying doesn't end with childhood, the list is endless.<br /><br />Why do you think the WH is called the bully pulpit? The Obamas bully with rhetoric and regulation instead of persuasion and reward, which is why so many of us push back.<br /><br />The IRS is the mother of all bullies.<br /><br />The boss/manager/teacher who sets an unrealistic work schedule/load and/or is unfairly critical of work is a bully.We've all had a version of the boss from hell who can't be pleased.<br /><br />The overly neat spouse who relentlessly chides the less tidy one is a bully.<br /><br />Over scheduling, hectoring mothers are bullies as are fathers who push sports on reluctant children.<br /><br />Siblings can be horrific bullies even as adults. <br /><br />Overbearing/disapproving in-laws are bullies.<br /><br />The person who pushes ahead of you on the train or on line at the supermarket is a bully, they know you'll step back. Much of what we perceive as public rudeness is really bullying.<br /><br />Eventually one must stand ones ground and in the words of the Bully-in-Chief "punch back twice as hard."BJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447134335568803085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72402790978712602462011-01-21T13:16:56.693-06:002011-01-21T13:16:56.693-06:00peter hoh said...
Edutcher, I thought that Freud ...peter hoh said...<br /><br /><i>Edutcher, I thought that Freud was generally dismissed by conservative thinkers.</i><br /><br />He really loves trying to paint everyone with those generalizations, doesn't he?edutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15589958656028023357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41588269438652872542011-01-21T12:56:12.315-06:002011-01-21T12:56:12.315-06:00Jesus: Various people who've studied the issue...Jesus: Various people who've studied the issue would disagree with you on fat being a choice "in the vast majority of cases".<br /><br />Though I suppose one could equally argue that <i>acting gay</i> is a "choice", so why not bully gays who <i>act</i> gay for not using the immense willpower they plainly must have, to resist it?<br /><br />I mean, if we can assert that it's a failure worthy of bullying to give in to biological cravings for food or to not exercise or whatever the alleged failing is, how's it <i>really</i> different?Sigivaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152366541957466049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44170220291750700172011-01-21T12:52:59.276-06:002011-01-21T12:52:59.276-06:00Edutcher, I thought that Freud was generally dismi...Edutcher, I thought that Freud was generally dismissed by conservative thinkers.Peter Hohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06916196998855947137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25205195374718560372011-01-21T12:51:34.641-06:002011-01-21T12:51:34.641-06:00Allen, I should add that you are certainly entitle...Allen, I should add that you are certainly entitled to your opinion. In my opinion, there seems to be a lot going for the "born that way" theory. I suspect that the biological roots are not genetic, but have something to do with maternal hormones during pregnancy. But that's just a theory. <br /><br />I won't pretend this is evidence, but the <a href="http://borngaybornthisway.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Born this way</a> blog lets people share their experience of being "born that way."Peter Hohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06916196998855947137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35162265018337640532011-01-21T12:47:11.043-06:002011-01-21T12:47:11.043-06:00peter hoh said...
AllenS: Homosexual boys are a r...peter hoh said...<br /><br />AllenS: <i><b>Homosexual boys are a result of overbearing mothers.</b><br /><br />On what basis was this opinion formed?</i><br /><br />Several variations on the theme, the basic one being the boy wants to grow up big and strong like Mommy, first postulated by one Dr Freud of Vienna.edutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15589958656028023357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14605202007084419612011-01-21T12:46:03.028-06:002011-01-21T12:46:03.028-06:00Jim McGreevey, Ted Haggard, and Larry Craig are ki...Jim McGreevey, Ted Haggard, and Larry Craig are kinda thin. <br /><br />Not that there's anything wrong with that. <br /><br />Must have been their overbearing mothers.Peter Hohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06916196998855947137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64957713057130002172011-01-21T12:44:44.782-06:002011-01-21T12:44:44.782-06:00On what basis was this opinion formed?
On my opin...<i>On what basis was this opinion formed?</i><br /><br />On my opinion. Everyone seems to have their own opinion on any number of subjects, and this is my opinion on that matter. It makes as much sense as anybody elses, and I dare anyone to prove me wrong. I refuse to accept <i>born that way</i>.AllenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08848966772462502893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32956526347937611512011-01-21T12:43:58.405-06:002011-01-21T12:43:58.405-06:00If I questioned somebody for choosing to eat a Cin...<i>If I questioned somebody for choosing to eat a Cinnabon ... their answer should still be something about valuing short term gratification over health, mobility, athleticism, attractiveness, confidence etc.</i><br /><br />I ordered a Cinnabon once at an airport because it smelled so good. Got about a third through it and was nearly sick. But yeah, I agree with johannalapp who thinks the answer should be "none of your effing business". Your question isn't an innocent question like "why are you a professor," it is a loaded question. You aren't asking why they chose Cinnabon over a muffin or a Big Mac, you are trying to point out that they did NOT choose something that you value. Plus, you are ignoring the possibility that they are heading to the gym later. People who eat Cinnabons might be (or get) fat, but they are not stupid. They know what you're asking and why. So eff off, you big fat bully.prairie windhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13602315347389233974noreply@blogger.com