tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post4253248217584611842..comments2024-03-19T01:52:00.810-05:00Comments on Althouse: What's so bad about soliciting "no strings attached" sex, through Craigslist, with a person over the age of consent?Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger99125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44063440518595129142012-08-23T20:05:51.821-05:002012-08-23T20:05:51.821-05:00palladian-
Late teen-agers become "children&...palladian-<br /><br /><i>Late teen-agers become "children" when someone has a political point to make.</i><br /><br />Like 26 yr old "children" being included on their parent's health insurance? <br /><br />If someone else is paying your bills as a 26 yr old adult, you're obviously not mature enough to "knowingly" consent to sex.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Fletch99https://www.blogger.com/profile/14385284249164785617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10412742400947506632012-08-23T14:21:25.671-05:002012-08-23T14:21:25.671-05:00Lindsey: ...and gays went out and parked in the w...Lindsey: <i>...and gays went out and parked in the woods, things could clear up immediately.</i><br /><br />Not going to happen -- no stall panels for glory holes out in the woods.furious_ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11239113391394176670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13934434205281613692012-08-23T14:07:29.027-05:002012-08-23T14:07:29.027-05:00Gosh, jeez, golly, oh I don't know. Hmmm, this...Gosh, jeez, golly, oh I don't know. Hmmm, this is really a tough question on why his political career should end. Darn, I'm perplexed at what could possibly end a politician career when he engages in this kind of behavior. Wow, would could the right answer be? Sheesh, I know the answer is out there somewhere.<br /><br />/sarcasmMethadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87639511998752613172012-08-23T13:24:46.302-05:002012-08-23T13:24:46.302-05:00For the record, I am a man in my mid twenties
I w...<i>For the record, I am a man in my mid twenties</i><br /><br />I would say so long as they are out of high school nobody would care. Now, if they hear you later complaining that your 19 yo girlfriend or wife is terribly immature, expect eyerolls.Shannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15709594638793030086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50258825120763663662012-08-23T12:29:01.799-05:002012-08-23T12:29:01.799-05:00The age difference and the public-bathroom parts a...The age difference and the public-bathroom parts are significant, but even if he'd been with people his own age and meeting them in a hotel or private home, he's still having anonymous sex with strangers that he meets on the internet. Are we really not allowed to call that evidence of and incredibly bad sense of judgment? Lyssahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12324631552709270910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14817051534514102832012-08-23T12:12:54.066-05:002012-08-23T12:12:54.066-05:00When talking about people in their late teens, I t...When talking about people in their late teens, I try to avoid kid/child and stick to minor or the XX-year-old. I sometimes slip up, but the goal is for exactness. Which I often fail at.Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38903427089687395262012-08-23T12:07:57.337-05:002012-08-23T12:07:57.337-05:00Only a person for whom history extends only twenty...<i> Only a person for whom history extends only twenty years from the present could possibly say teenagers are children.</i><br /><br />Late teen-agers become "children" when someone has a political point to make.<br /><br />Hell, American soldiers in their 20s become "children" when someone's trying to make some sort of emotionalist anti-war statement.Palladianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01105490715666718993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25110245151055182182012-08-23T12:00:08.620-05:002012-08-23T12:00:08.620-05:00What the hell's wrong with being old. Many of...What the hell's wrong with being old. Many of us have problems enough without being regarded as 'disgusting' for doing things younger people do?<br /><br />Who here would dare to openly be disgusted by a mixed race couple or the coupling of a jew and a muslim? The law, I believe, forbids discrimination based on age, as well. <br /><br />Pols and pundits tell us the new retirement age should be 70 or some other higher number. Should not the PCOD also be raised?<br /><br />With regard to the age 'difference' between partners,<br />if it's legal it's legal. Many young women in their teens are having more sex than bunnies. Why should old, older and oldest men be barred from taking part?<br /><br />Why, exactly, is age difference such a taboo?Col Mustardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02964204495100091586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36986564894245403882012-08-23T11:51:16.968-05:002012-08-23T11:51:16.968-05:00Colonel Angus said...
So we boil down to the outr...<i>Colonel Angus said... <br />So we boil down to the outrageous part being the age difference (perhaps) and it was male/male and therefore more taboo than m/f.<br /><br />I think clear headed thinking folks would view a 57 year old guy fucking a 17 year old girl in precisely the same manner.<br /><br />Then there is the trolling Craigslist for a hookup that just screams loser</i><br /><br />This area of Craigslist is notorious for solicitation of prostitution. I wonder if this effected the cops suspicions and behavior.testhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09478829894294731159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26490700418864077702012-08-23T11:49:16.576-05:002012-08-23T11:49:16.576-05:00Instant gratification before better judgment. A n...Instant gratification before better judgment. A number of individuals have the wrong priorities and they are willing to share their corruption with the next generation.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18783540187719575432012-08-23T11:46:45.240-05:002012-08-23T11:46:45.240-05:00As for 17 = pedophilia, that's just ignorant. ...As for 17 = pedophilia, that's just ignorant. My grandparent's generation routinely married in their teens. Teenagers are not children, though they are not fully adults either. Teenagers have ruled kingdoms, led armies into battle, committed heinous crimes, created great art. Only a person for whom history extends only twenty years from the present could possibly say teenagers are children.Gabriel Hannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12356186353979140904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54621348922030789962012-08-23T11:46:10.001-05:002012-08-23T11:46:10.001-05:00Not a scientific study of course, but I have sever...Not a scientific study of course, but I have several GFs who succumbed to bathroom sex with their male friends. We thought it was something of a right of passage at the time.<br /><br />We (or at least I) cooly chose the men's room because I thought if we were caught the men would be less likely to object to the scene.<br /><br />If it were the other way around, a man in a women's restroom would also probably get in a lot of trouble just for being in there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3869315296267357862012-08-23T11:37:18.585-05:002012-08-23T11:37:18.585-05:00It's perfectly legal to say that a woman's...It's perfectly legal to say that a woman's uterus has +10 against rape, but it's still disqualifying for office. I'm not sure it's legal to have sex with someone you just met--or even someone you've been married to for decades--in a public bathroom, but even if it is, it's disqualifying for office.Gabriel Hannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12356186353979140904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31821095852582889092012-08-23T11:15:51.075-05:002012-08-23T11:15:51.075-05:00I have a question for Professor Althouse and anyon...I have a question for Professor Althouse and anyone else who has insight to add. Is it always morally wrong for a man in his 20's, 30's, 40's to have sex with a young women of 17-21, if it is legal? Why? I have never fully understood why this is so bad. I understand why sex with women younger than 17 or so is so bad. But I don't fully understand why women in their late teens are off limits. For the record, I am a man in my mid twenties, and I have noticed that women from 17-21 are very attracted to me, and me to them. I have not pursued any kind of relationship with any of these young women, because of the stigma attached. But I don't understand why this is so bad. Can someone explain? Thank you.rick rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04542621463442558590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48789310400854574702012-08-23T11:08:37.241-05:002012-08-23T11:08:37.241-05:00Thousands of years of human history have made it c...Thousands of years of human history have made it clear (to anyone who takes an open, honest look) that "no strings attached" sex is inherently exploitative. Seeking out and/or advocating for more sexual freedom is the mark of selfishness, immaturity, and an inability to delay gratification or sacrifice short-term urges for long-term good.<br /><br />So someone who engages in this sort of behavior is not someone you want to give even minor political power or social position to.Nathan Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17618170642379567187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62118616016302834452012-08-23T11:06:50.951-05:002012-08-23T11:06:50.951-05:00paul a'barge, garage mahal, Chip S.,
To the f...paul a'barge, garage mahal, Chip S.,<br /><br />To the first two of you, yes, I know all about the history of gay men and public restrooms. There was undoubtedly a time in which it was rather difficult to get some gay nookie <i>except</i> in places like public restrooms (or bathhouses -- you know, like the ones activists insisted should remain open even in the worst of the AIDS epidemic, because, you know, civil rights, like the right to glory holes). <br /><br />Chip S., actually, I'm not in SF and never did live there. I did live in the Bay Area for 25 years -- Berkeley, Emeryville, Oakland, San Rafael, Novato in that order -- but I've been in Oregon for two years now. To all Californians, I'd recommend it. Get out while you still can. Merely being able to tot up the cost of your groceries while in line, without figuring sales tax (we haven't got one) will make it worth your while.Michelle Dulak Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18041391162535875301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69865569347093300162012-08-23T10:54:00.470-05:002012-08-23T10:54:00.470-05:00Rabel said...
If he had taken a picture of the enc...Rabel said...<br />If he had taken a picture of the encounter and kept it on his cell phone, he would be facing hard time...."<br /><br />heheAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3277955298784899212012-08-23T10:52:59.949-05:002012-08-23T10:52:59.949-05:00and...what Rabel said.and...what Rabel said.prairie windhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13602315347389233974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27894108813930084642012-08-23T10:52:09.192-05:002012-08-23T10:52:09.192-05:00'nother thing, votermom:
If I were trolling c...'nother thing, votermom:<br /><br /><i>If I were trolling craigslist for teen sex partners you might be justified in saying that.</i><br /><br />My point is that No, I wouldn't be justified in saying that you've molested fifth graders just because you were trolling craigslist for teen sex partners. Just as you are not justified in what you suggested about this guy.<br /><br />Letting your imagination run away with you is not justification for accusing someone without proof.prairie windhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13602315347389233974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21587630428943041792012-08-23T10:44:49.078-05:002012-08-23T10:44:49.078-05:00votermom, I am not defending the guy. I have no id...votermom, I am not defending the guy. I have no idea what really happened. <br /><br />You, however, are accusing the guy of stuff that the media hasn't even hinted at. That's wrong.prairie windhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13602315347389233974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12034810242884823442012-08-23T10:28:23.463-05:002012-08-23T10:28:23.463-05:00If he had taken a picture of the encounter and kep...If he had taken a picture of the encounter and kept it on his cell phone, he would be facing hard time and a lifetime sexual predator label for possession of child pornography.Rabelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02612585516401001803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56925200473383663432012-08-23T10:27:45.529-05:002012-08-23T10:27:45.529-05:00votermom would have (probably has already) done he...<i>votermom would have (probably has already) done her son's fifth grade classmates.</i><br /><br />If I were trolling craigslist for teen sex partners you might be justified in saying that.<br /><br />As it is, all this defense of the perv Gauther says to me is that you all are turned on by it. Sick. Entitled. Male. Pigs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58962810409893643062012-08-23T10:26:48.842-05:002012-08-23T10:26:48.842-05:00EMD said...
Would the police have acted the same w...EMD said...<br />Would the police have acted the same way if it were two females? Why yes, yes they would."<br /><br />Moral of the story is if you are gonna do it in a restroom make sure there are numerous stalls before you lock in.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71375215219624945732012-08-23T10:20:40.810-05:002012-08-23T10:20:40.810-05:00ricpic said...
"Lindsey Meadows draws a line!...ricpic said...<br />"Lindsey Meadows draws a line!"<br /><br />In all seriousness Ric my reference to the age differnce was wrong. Age has zip to do with it unless it was coerced or in someway manipulated. I know I didn't make good choices at 17 so that probably was the root of my disgust.<br /><br />I consider myself a moral person Ric so there are lines here and there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58964331233459863562012-08-23T10:16:37.135-05:002012-08-23T10:16:37.135-05:00So we boil down to the outrageous part being the a...<i> So we boil down to the outrageous part being the age difference (perhaps) and it was male/male and therefore more taboo than m/f.</i><br /><br />I think clear headed thinking folks would view a 57 year old guy fucking a 17 year old girl in precisely the same manner.<br /><br />Then there is the trolling Craigslist for a hookup that just screams loser.Colonel Angushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00521684405975098246noreply@blogger.com