tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post4056106213285035147..comments2024-03-29T00:04:32.434-05:00Comments on Althouse: A dubious Wall Street Journal opinion piece on alternative medicine.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger187125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85109664199772651262009-01-20T13:52:00.000-06:002009-01-20T13:52:00.000-06:00TO: All [and especially the skeptics here]RE: Apol...TO: All [and especially the skeptics here]<BR/>RE: Apologies<BR/><BR/>Sorry to have taken so long in getting back to this. I was breaking in some new computers and some of them were being a bit ‘balky’ regarding my LAN and access to various things. [Note: The BIG complaint is an apparent problem in migrating e-mail services from the Mac OS X Tiger to the Mac OS X Leopard environment.]<BR/><BR/>RE: Back On-Topic<BR/><BR/>So, to date, I’ve described something about how allopaths [think AMA] treat people, as if they are all the same.<BR/><BR/>So if they treat people as if they all relate to some lowest-common-denominator, that would explain a lot about the way they prescribe medications. One pill should cure a particular ailment. As evidence I offer how there are so many warnings about ‘side effects’ on prescription drug notices. My personal experiences having borne out the truth of those warning (see previous comments, above, for details).<BR/><BR/>RE: Allopathic Tests<BR/><BR/>So, if the allopaths treat everyone pretty much alike, I would suspect that in the test conducted by Shang that they would take one homeopathic pill supposedly oriented towards treating a cold and think that it should treat all the subjects in their test for colds. Or asthma. Or gynaecology issues. Or surgery issues. Or gastrointestinal issues. Or musculoskeletal issues. Or neurological issues.<BR/><BR/>I read over the article from The Lancet. I noticed a lack of information about what was administered, homeopathically, to any of the subjects of the test. I also notice that the article doesn’t mention the gross or subtle symptoms of the subjects of the test who were administered homeopathic treatments. Or placebos.<BR/><BR/>I find this a gross omission on the part of the ‘good’ doctor Shang.<BR/><BR/>Why do I say that?<BR/><BR/>Because, as I’ve pointed out here time and again, people are not all the same. And, that is the primary difference between homeopathy and allopathy. The latter treats people as if they ARE all-the-same. Or so it hopes. But it subtly recognizes there ARE differences. Check the fine print on the prescription drug warnings.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, homeopathy recognizes there are essential differences from one individual to the next. And from one disease/disorder to another. Especially on how a disease/disorder interacts with an individual.<BR/><BR/>RE: A Case in Point<BR/><BR/>For instance, there are 46 homeopathic materia medica that can help with an acute attack of gout. That is according to the Boericke book. And none of them will treat all gout attacks. Instead, one has to know the other symptoms that the subject is experiencing before you can identify the one materia medica that WILL be effective. <BR/><BR/>In 2006 I experienced two acute attacks. One in January the other in April.<BR/><BR/>The materia medica that I took for the attack in January did not help me in the April attack. One would think that the placebo effect would have covered the April attack. But it didn’t. Likewise, the materia medica that relieved my pain in the attack before (September 2003) the January incident, didn’t help me in the January attack.<BR/><BR/>Why? Because the OTHER symptoms were ‘different’. <BR/><BR/>So, in January 2006, I took what had worked in September 2003. No ‘joy’. The excruciating pain continued. It took me three days and pretty-much-sleepless nights to notice that I was suffering from severe ‘chill’s. There were only three materia medica that connected ‘gout’ with ‘chills’. I had one of them on-hand. I took it and the pain disappeared in 15 minutes.<BR/><BR/>So, in April 2006, I took the materia medica which worked in January 2006. Again, no ‘joy’. But I wasn’t suffering ‘chills’ either. Then I noticed that my tongue looked like someone had white-washed it. There was one materia medica that connected ‘gout’ with a ‘heavily coated white tongue’. I took it and the pain went away.<BR/><BR/>You skeptics may want to pooh-pooh this. But that’s hardly MY problem now, is it.<BR/><BR/>RE: The Point<BR/><BR/>If the people like Shang are not properly connecting individual’s symptoms to a particular materia medica, their ‘tests’ are strictly bogus. <BR/> So, maybe someone could provide the full report on Shang’s ‘test’.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)<BR/>[The Truth will out....and the AMA isn’t going to like it.]<BR/><BR/>P.S. The Lancet is a British pub, isn’t it. And, it is oriented towards allopathy. That would go far to explain why they are so adamantly opposed to homeopathy. After all, homeopathy has not been ‘outlawed’ in England yet.Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11430432433049894702009-01-13T12:50:00.000-06:002009-01-13T12:50:00.000-06:00TO: AllRE: OBECurrently Overcome-By-Events. Issues...TO: All<BR/>RE: OBE<BR/><BR/>Currently Overcome-By-Events. Issues relating to computer matters and the fact that the early part of the each month is wrought with various activities, i.e., commissions, clubs, political party meetings, etc., etc.<BR/><BR/>I'll address the Shang study and the differences between allopathy and homeopathy, vis-a-vis such 'studies' later this week. Right now I'm staring several 'must-be-there' activities.<BR/><BR/>RE: Things to Think About<BR/><BR/>Might be a good idea for you to review what I addressed the other day regarding how each of us is different and how allopaths want to think of us in terms of the 'lowest common denominator. <BR/><BR/>I'm reminded of the way mechanics in the mech infantry battalion I was the Battalion Maintenance Officer for treating 'ailing' vehicles.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)<BR/>[A doctors reputation is based on the fame of people who died in his care.]Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80676879084023240812009-01-12T18:08:00.000-06:002009-01-12T18:08:00.000-06:00Good lord when will the alternative gurus go back ...Good lord when will the alternative gurus go back to just treating their patients and spreading the good Eastern medicine the way it was intended to be administered? One-on-one, with thought and with time, and NOT institutionalized and standardized. <BR/><BR/>By moving toward "standardized" [read: government funded] alternative medicine as it will need to become during its politicization, it will demean the meticulous methodologies established by Ayurveda, yoga therapy, etc. These methodologies take time to administer and don't always have exact dosages and precise "rules" to follow. This will make it prohibitively difficult to mold the practices into our current HMO driven system. <BR/><BR/>Just leave the alternative practitioners alone (and I don't mean the big popular one we hear from in this article, rather the everyday practitioners). Has Deepok even talked with them, or is he too busy flitting around making a fool of himself on O'Reily to even know what his "constituents" think about his efforts? <BR/><BR/>I'm all for alternative treatments, Western medicine and taking advantage of ALL the tools in our toolkits...but to to try to crunch Eastern practices into a Western political funding model....give it up now before you waste even more of the tax payer money than what will be wasted under the new administration. Nice concept- destructive to implement.<BR/><BR/>PS I'm a yoga teacher.Florianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02300979813436281388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59331007267088467612009-01-11T19:49:00.000-06:002009-01-11T19:49:00.000-06:00TO: Omaha1RE: Heh...."....I think you're an idiot....TO: Omaha1<BR/>RE: Heh....<BR/><BR/>"....I think you're an idiot." -- Omaha1<BR/><BR/>....show me your Mensa membership ID number and I'll call you 'bro', bozo.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)<BR/>[The truth will out....and projection is a big help....]Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9161271505574369032009-01-11T19:44:00.000-06:002009-01-11T19:44:00.000-06:00TO: AllRE: The Allopathic 'Tests' (Part 1)Question...TO: All<BR/>RE: The Allopathic 'Tests' (Part 1)<BR/><BR/>Question: Do each of you [doubters] think you are identically alike to each other? Genetically speaking?<BR/><BR/>Seriously?<BR/><BR/>If you do, they you fit right into the ideal 'mold' that the allopaths would love to achieve.<BR/><BR/>But, in truth, each of us is different from the other. In more was than one. <BR/><BR/>Otherwise, the FDA wouldn't require those extensive warnings on the labels of prescription medications; if you experience heart palpitations or sudden headaches or pass out, stop taking this medicine immediately and contact your doctor....or words to that effect.<BR/><BR/>Case in point....<BR/><BR/>....I went to my GP complaining about a gassy stomach and abnormal belching. The PA who supports my GP gave me a medication HE 'thought' would solve the problem.<BR/><BR/>Within two days of taking the medication, I was still belching. However, to add to the situation, I suddenly developed what is known as 'central sleep apnea'. <BR/><BR/>For those who are ignorant of CSA, it's when while you are asleep, your brain forgets to tell your lungs to breath. <BR/><BR/>There are only three ways out of that: (1) you wake up gasping for breath like someone coming up from drowning, (2) you wake up 'dead' the next morning or (3) you become your family version of Terri Schiavo. Be advised none of these are particularly pleasant.<BR/><BR/>So.....<BR/><BR/>....I called the fine people who make this 'medicine' and asked them about what I was experiencing. And they said there was the possibility of 'sleep disorders'. When I asked them about 'central sleep apnea' and if they recognized it as a 'sleep disorder', they were unwilling to admit to that.<BR/><BR/>So, as a point of fact, whereas the allopaths would like to treat us all as round pegs to fit in their simple-minded boards, we are not all 'round'. Some of us are [hip to be] square. Others are hexagonal. So on and so forth.<BR/><BR/>And we're back to the business of 'are we all the same'?<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)<BR/>P.S. More tomorrow on how this figures into the Shang and other allopath funded 'tests'.....Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40653384117140947832009-01-11T10:52:00.000-06:002009-01-11T10:52:00.000-06:00To; Chuck PeltoRe: Stupid argumentshey chuck(le),...To; Chuck Pelto<BR/><BR/>Re: Stupid arguments<BR/><BR/>hey chuck(le),<BR/><BR/>I always appreciated Andrea Harris' approach of banning you based solely on your annoying formatting habits. Your stupid approach to anecdotal argumentation is just icing on the herbal/homeopathic cake.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Omaha1<BR/><BR/>[Stupid is as stupid does - Forrest Gump's mom]<BR/><BR/>p.s. I don't care to respond to any further comments from you, but it's not because I "hate" you, it's because I think you're an idiot.Omaha1https://www.blogger.com/profile/17906834802115018347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20909992383243254892009-01-11T08:10:00.000-06:002009-01-11T08:10:00.000-06:00As we decide that real medical therapeutics and in...As we decide that real medical therapeutics and intervention are too costly we need cheaper alternatives like weeds and chanting gurus.<BR/><BR/>After all, 97% of all illness gets better by itself and a similar percentage of people never need high-end critical or expensive care until they are either too old o9r debilitated to register their needs appropriately.<BR/><BR/>So this is a good strategy for health care reformers. It will save a lot of money.Dr.Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16720781758479209563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8886905716174687992009-01-11T01:58:00.000-06:002009-01-11T01:58:00.000-06:00"100,000 controlled clinical research studies show...<I>"100,000 controlled clinical research studies showing that I can give a sugar pill, or a sham procedure (i.e. pretending to perform a surgery...even up to the point where a person has a catheter inserted in their leg), or a sham topical ointment, or a fake inhalant...."</I><BR/><BR/>That may be slightly hyperbolic (but only slightly; such research has been conducted for decades now), but it's in the right direction. The fact of the matter is that, regarding homeopathy, there have been in excess of 150 actual clinical studies on the topic, 110 of them mentioned in the Lancet metastudy I mentioned earlier. So this is a topic that, while far from being exhaustively covered, is already quite well understood. <BR/><BR/>And as a slight digression: The fact that the Lancet metastudy linked above retains validity despite the origin of publication (a point Chuck's trying to hang his rebuttal on) is because it was a <I><B>meta</B></I> study. It was a study of multiple studies that had been done in the past, over a hundred of them. It's one thing to impugn a single study's funding or question the scope of its conclusions, but it's a whole other thing to ignore trends uncovered over the course of a hundred-plus separate trials. So next time you see or read someone try to dispute the Shang et. al. study's conclusion by "questioning" the funding source or claiming some sort of slant by the "establishment", think about the fact that homeopathic effects have not manifested over the course of 100+ separate, individual trials and ask yourself if the criticism addresses <I>that</I>. Or tries to dance around the fact instead.<BR/><BR/><I>"P.S. Let alone prove it true or false for themselves....."</I><BR/><BR/>I don't think there's any point to addressing Chuck directly anymore, not until he tackles the substance of my posts above and quits trying to peddle. So I'll address this to everyone else here: A physician in Canada once wisely advised me to respond to homeopathic claims by asking them to provide a randomized double blind control trial that proves that it works like they say it's suppose to work, and that works significantly (in the statistical sense) better than a placebo. At that point, you (me, in that conversation) can start discussing specifics. Until then, there's nothing to discuss. It's a useful suggestion to remember. Pseudoscience peddlers can do their best to bog you down in the minituae of individual aspects of what they peddle, but in all cases where ingestion of material or treatment of an individual is concerned, ask yourself if you really want to sample a treatment where the provider cannot provide clear documentation of the direct effects, including measurements of successes and failures, and clear risk information about the side effects, again including measurements/quantifications/plain numbers measuring percentage of patients affected and degree to which they're affected. Then point blank ask for the randomized trial(s) with control, and the statistical significance of the numbers pulled. You get that in research into allopathic treatments, but as you can see here in my direct questions to Chuck, you don't get it in alt-medicine, not as far as <I>I</I> have seen. You certainly don't get anything above either excuses or exhortations to "try for yourself" (at a price, of course). So just remember to ask the question above, and if stalled, demand something above and beyond anecdotal evidence. You can find plenty of anecdotes from ballplayers that not shaving or wearing lucky clothes has an effect on their game, too, but I'd rather see numbers bear any such claim out. If the effect of a given treatment truly exists as the advocate for it says it does, then there's no way to fail to note such effects over time and numbers of patients. Ask. Don't be satisfied with individual testimonials; you'll see that for everything from satisfaction commercials for automobiles to testimonials about hotels, but it's only through numbers that you see how reliable a car actually is, and how good the service is that you actually get from a hotel.Tiborehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07360541843865827271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67564004960326533422009-01-10T20:17:00.000-06:002009-01-10T20:17:00.000-06:00A good review of the article from Respectful Insol...A good review of the article from <A HREF="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/01/the_woomeister_supreme_returns.php" REL="nofollow">Respectful Insolence</A><BR/><BR/>"This article, predictably enough, has riled Deepak Chopra. He's not happy about it at all. Oh, no. Nor are his buddies, including the Godfather of Quackademic Medicine and Lover of Anecdotal Evidence above controlled observations, Dr. Andrew Weil, and that king of pseudoscientific arguments for homeopathy, Dr. Rustum Roy. Truly, this is an Unholy Trinity of Woo, and the results are very predictable. They view Salerno's article as the "opening salvo" against CAM/IM.<BR/><BR/>I certainly hope it is. I certainly hope it's the first salvo of a veritable barrage that would put the bombardment of Normandy in preparation for the D-Day invasion to shame. I hope it's the first salvo of a barrage that flattens any pretensions Chopra and his ilk have to scientific legitimacy, pulverizing it to a cloud of woo-ful dust the way a shell pulverizes its target."Ken Pidcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15236539087094493564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57625280958008595162009-01-10T17:40:00.000-06:002009-01-10T17:40:00.000-06:00RE: MigrainesI've never experienced one myself...t...<I>RE: Migraines<BR/>I've never experienced one myself...thank God.</I><BR/>You appear to be what is referred to among medical professionals as a "carrier."sierrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10711996695204401808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23675296351481701302009-01-10T17:33:00.000-06:002009-01-10T17:33:00.000-06:00TO: AllRE: TomorrowMore tomorrow on tests run by p...TO: All<BR/>RE: Tomorrow<BR/><BR/>More tomorrow on tests run by people opposed to something that will diminish their income, i.e., allopaths trying the 'prove' homeopathy works.<BR/><BR/>After all....<BR/><BR/>....what would happen if the drug companies were faced with a challenge of something you could grow in your backyard....under proper conditions....that outperformed THEIR products? And without adverse side-affects?<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)<BR/>[The Truth will out....but some people won't care to listen to it.]<BR/><BR/>P.S. Let alone prove it true or false for themselves.....Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49692192616768078862009-01-10T17:16:00.000-06:002009-01-10T17:16:00.000-06:00TO: AllRE: The Screwy Think.......about all of thi...TO: All<BR/>RE: The Screwy Think....<BR/><BR/>...about all of this discussion is that NOT ONE of the people arguing against me on this matter has either the money and/or the intellectual curiosity to take me up on this little do-it-yourself 'experiment' for the sake of 'science'.<BR/><BR/>They are all as mindless as any other True Believer.<BR/><BR/>How very sad.....<BR/><BR/>But it's not lose to me. When the viral pandemic—whatever form it arrives in—comes....I'm better prepared then they.<BR/><BR/>After all, the allopaths have NOTHING, as yet, that can deal with a viral infection. And, as reported by CDC, things here with US are worse than had been previously understood....Tamiflu doesn't work....<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)<BR/>[Be prepared. -- Motto of the Boy Scouts]<BR/><BR/>P.S. And oddly enough, the Politically Correct hate the Boy Scouts too.....Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43138503401462331262009-01-10T17:09:00.000-06:002009-01-10T17:09:00.000-06:00TO: TreejoeRE: Well Then...."I've got about 100,00...TO: Treejoe<BR/>RE: Well Then....<BR/><BR/>"I've got about 100,000 controlled clinical research studies showing that I can give a sugar pill, or a sham procedure (i.e. pretending to perform a surgery...even up to the point where a person has a catheter inserted in their leg), or a sham topical ointment, or a fake inhalant....<BR/><BR/>I've got about 100,000 of those that show anywhere from 20-50% of people reporting or showing improvement in patients receiving that placebo." -- TreeJoe<BR/><BR/>Go buy yourself some sugar-pill blanks and make yourself 'feel better'.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)<BR/>[The proof of the pudding.....and all that sort of 'rot'.....]Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44247285854468483582009-01-10T17:07:00.000-06:002009-01-10T17:07:00.000-06:00TO: RalphRE: MigrainesI've never experienced one m...TO: Ralph<BR/>RE: Migraines<BR/><BR/>I've never experienced one myself...thank God. However, the distaff has 'auras' on occasion. They are supposedly 'low-grade' migraine events. No pain. Just 'weird'.<BR/><BR/>I've heard that Ginko Biloba (GB) in herbal dosages is effective against them.<BR/><BR/>As I take GB as an herbal mental stimulant....and it works so well I don't take it before going to bed. The dreams are just TOO startling....<BR/><BR/>....I suggested she take it when she has an aura. It seems to help her.<BR/><BR/>However, do not take it in conjunction with aspirin. They both act in a similar manner and that could lead to bad things happening. <BR/><BR/>Hope this helps....<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)<BR/>[God made the Earth, and everything therein, for man......]Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81097192862939607802009-01-10T17:06:00.000-06:002009-01-10T17:06:00.000-06:00"As I stated (above) my personal experience with b..."As I stated (above) my personal experience with burns is that scar tissue is dramatically reduced form treating a severe burn with cantharis in homeopathic dosage."<BR/><BR/>Homeopathic dosage = there isn't a molecule of the substance in the container your paid for.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13152933285858551362009-01-10T17:02:00.000-06:002009-01-10T17:02:00.000-06:00TO: TiboreRE: Really?"I learned to read in school....TO: Tibore<BR/>RE: Really?<BR/><BR/>"I learned to read in school." -- Tibore<BR/><BR/>Must have been a pretty poor excuse for a 'school'.<BR/><BR/>Which 'school' was it? And when did you 'graduate'?<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)<BR/>[Inquiring minds want to know.....]Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13681616198044134162009-01-10T17:00:00.000-06:002009-01-10T17:00:00.000-06:00TO: TiboreRE: The Lancet...."I myself criticize th...TO: Tibore<BR/>RE: The Lancet....<BR/><BR/>"I myself criticize that Iraq Body Count study. I know it's bunk. " -- Tibore<BR/><BR/>....and the bursting of 'boils'. <BR/><BR/>So. We've established that this org can't be trusted when politics are involved.<BR/><BR/>Good for US.<BR/><BR/>RE: The Shang Article<BR/><BR/>I notice he focuses on the 'placebo' effect.<BR/><BR/>I find that interesting. <BR/><BR/>However, I have to remind you about my 'challenge' item (above). And would you please explain how scar tissue is diminished from a second-degree burn treated with cantharis. The point being are individual cells and tissues subject to the placebo affect? <BR/><BR/>Pain is a 'nervous', i.e., 'mental' think. Healing of damaged tissue, as yet, has not been proven to be a such a think.<BR/><BR/>As I stated (above) my personal experience with burns is that scar tissue is dramatically reduced form treating a severe burn with cantharis in homeopathic dosage.<BR/><BR/>If reduction of scar tissue does result from taking cantharis in homeopathic doses, that opens up a whole new field of research. <BR/><BR/>Maybe you should get some and try it yourself? Or are you so cash-strapped you can't afford $7?<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)<BR/>[If people could ACTUALLY 'think' for themselves......]Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75986594536768799472009-01-10T16:53:00.000-06:002009-01-10T16:53:00.000-06:00TO: PogoRE: Well...."They want to argue ad nauseum...TO: Pogo<BR/>RE: Well....<BR/><BR/>"They want to argue ad nauseum like Chuck here, even though all you're trying to do is get the hell out of earshot." -- Pogo<BR/><BR/>....you're obviously an example of someone who puts total 'faith' in the priesthood of the AMA.<BR/><BR/>You're welcome to limiting your options. Like the others here. It's not my problem.....<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/><BR/>Chuck(le)<BR/>[Run Awaaaaayyyyy!!!! -- Another 'Monty Python' moment]<BR/><BR/>P.S. You can't afford to spend $7 to test it for yourself?<BR/><BR/>How 'open minded' of you....Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79721335742300327482009-01-10T15:25:00.000-06:002009-01-10T15:25:00.000-06:00By the way, diet and exercise are the proper cures...By the way, diet and exercise are the proper cures for almost all major mortal diseases of today, that's one thing the authors got right.<BR/><BR/>It's much harder to measure prevention unless you study individuals from childhood through late-life, and account for their environmental exposures. But heart disease, diabetes, cancer, hypercholesterolemia, hypertension....etc.<BR/><BR/>Mostly can be cut back dramatically, in the general population, through a life-long pursuit of healthy eating and physical activity.<BR/><BR/>One of the interesting factoids I was taught at Hopkins was that pharma salespeople will mention that diet and exercise only reduce systolic/diastolic blood pressure by about 4mm in the general public.<BR/><BR/>What they don't mention is that that research shows that 50% of the hypertensive general public would then no longer be hypertensive. It's a mean drop, but they don't mention the mean blood pressures it's held against.<BR/><BR/>Science has advanced us far. And propaganda has slowed us down. Early education based upon sound scientific research and objective principles is a good use of K-12 schooling.<BR/><BR/>JoeTreeJoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01945297586091550778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52463471870456159112009-01-10T15:21:00.000-06:002009-01-10T15:21:00.000-06:00Re: HomeopathyI've got about 100,000 controlled cl...Re: Homeopathy<BR/><BR/>I've got about 100,000 controlled clinical research studies showing that I can give a sugar pill, or a sham procedure (i.e. pretending to perform a surgery...even up to the point where a person has a catheter inserted in their leg), or a sham topical ointment, or a fake inhalant....<BR/><BR/>I've got about 100,000 of those that show anywhere from 20-50% of people reporting or showing improvement in patients receiving that placebo.<BR/><BR/>So, according to the logic of homeopathy, placebo should actually be the most widely provided prescription...for any and all ailments. <BR/><BR/>It has next to no side effects (although plenty of people report side effects when on it), costs next to nothing (though I could charge alot for it), and gives improvement to 20-50% of people across almost any therapeutic area.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Really....why is this amazing placebo being suppressed as a way to treat people. It's a damn conspiracy, that's what it is.<BR/><BR/>These drug companies claim that it's all just a "placebo effect" and that it has no curative powers. But all their studies support it's curative powers! Bastards!<BR/><BR/>TreeJoe<BR/><BR/>P.s. Chuck Pelto - The cancer substance may have been tried on animals and never reported to have failed. People rarely report failures when testing a theory. <BR/><BR/>If you doubt me, why don't you call the researchers. And find out the real story.TreeJoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01945297586091550778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9160526477451768352009-01-10T01:50:00.000-06:002009-01-10T01:50:00.000-06:00May not, but he's supposed to scare her to death.May not, but he's supposed to scare her to death.Ralph Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915708905660273961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60234742128370838502009-01-09T23:33:00.000-06:002009-01-09T23:33:00.000-06:00Probably won't work on a migrane.Probably won't work on a migrane.sierrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10711996695204401808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61571473641741310502009-01-09T23:29:00.000-06:002009-01-09T23:29:00.000-06:00sierra, I'll get my dad to try that next time the ...sierra, I'll get my dad to try that next time the stepmonster gets a migraine.Ralph Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915708905660273961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68576990873293034302009-01-09T22:24:00.000-06:002009-01-09T22:24:00.000-06:00you know professor i likethe way people here in ca...you know professor i like<BR/>the way people here in cambridge mass<BR/>are into alternative extermiation too<BR/>i think it s called integrated<BR/>pest management not that i regard<BR/>myself as a pest but you know how<BR/>no one sees themselves as others do<BR/>anyway the thing i like about ipm<BR/>is that is doesn t work<BR/>but it makes people feel happy<BR/>that they re not sucking diazinon<BR/>and it makes me feel even better<BR/>and the buddhists are happy they're not<BR/>actively killing fellow sentient beings<BR/>yay buddhists everybody s happy<BR/><BR/>anyway here in cambridge lots of people are<BR/>into alternative therapies surprise surprise<BR/>they usually work about as well as boric<BR/>acid under the fridge which any<BR/>self respecting cockroach knows how to<BR/>step around give me a break i only have 960<BR/>brain cells and even i ve figured that out<BR/>i mean would you go walking through<BR/>white dust up to your ankles sheesh<BR/><BR/>but mom here at the house is french and<BR/>being european is more into herbs and<BR/>folk remedies from the auvergne<BR/>like vervain tea which is great<BR/>to stimulate your sex drive if it needs it<BR/>one thing she says is good for the liver<BR/>bon pour votre fois is a little medoc<BR/>a nice 96 chateau potensac is a natural<BR/>detoxifier and regeneration anti aging<BR/>treatment that goes well with braised<BR/>beef or pork in brown sauce<BR/>which mom is welcome to spill<BR/>behind the stove anytimeblogging cockroachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00899638590257384302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-92034354703598317052009-01-09T20:01:00.000-06:002009-01-09T20:01:00.000-06:00Altouse, I love you when you pull no punches. And...Altouse, I love you when you pull no punches. And Amen, too.Patmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17884455503379229264noreply@blogger.com