tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post401472872756188922..comments2024-03-28T13:10:05.179-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Christianity Remains Dominant Religion in the United States."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger95125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52859003547922000262011-12-25T19:54:29.325-06:002011-12-25T19:54:29.325-06:00George Barna did a further study a while back that...George Barna did a further study a while back that pegged the "Christian' population at about 80%, but then divided that group 80/20 between "casual Christians" (the default cultural position for folks not intentionally something else) and "captive Christians" whose worldview is actually built around that theology being true and relevant. So about 2/3 of Americans are only nominally Christian, with another 16% serious about it. I blame Constantine (or Theodosius). The early (and persecuted) church didn't have any "Christmas and Easter" believers warming pews.Coach Salhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13942541698409058923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70219531815845715862011-12-25T08:35:36.598-06:002011-12-25T08:35:36.598-06:00"PURITANS, happened...Quakers and Puritans......"PURITANS, happened...Quakers and Puritans....Wilberforce was a big-time CHRISTIAN. When we are ALL Yhwh's Equal...when we ALL can study the Gospel, one comes to the "slave" in a different light."<br /><br />That's just a different angle on exactly what I was saying. You see the enlightenment as something that happened within the non-conforming semi-Calvinism sects. <br /><br />We could split hairs for years. I say, perhaps not literally, if no Spinoza, then no Wilberforce. You might say, very literally, if no Calvin, then no Spinoza. We're both right, and they're part of a thread that led to our modern, liberal Christian culture. Let's enjoy it.<br /><br />Merry Christmas.MrCharlie2https://www.blogger.com/profile/07938424707857154495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9099239637222972152011-12-25T08:18:33.754-06:002011-12-25T08:18:33.754-06:00"Christians are often quite limited when it c...<i>"Christians are often quite limited when it comes to public accommodation for their beliefs."</i><br /><br />I'm curious what you mean...what sort of "public accommodation" to Christian beliefs do you think are lacking in America?Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77051245283573682762011-12-25T08:10:03.681-06:002011-12-25T08:10:03.681-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70167644210817936982011-12-25T01:46:21.063-06:002011-12-25T01:46:21.063-06:00"You'd do well as a Malay, Cedarford.&quo..."<i>You'd do well as a Malay, Cedarford.</i>"<br /><br />Ohhhh, that had to leave a mark!<br /><br />To someone even remotely open-minded, I'd recommend Thomas Sowell's wonderful trilogy; but I doubt c4 would let himself get through it. I just find it fascinating that our resident anti-semite is so broadminded that he despises the overseas Chinese in the same way.Kirk Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05921711310191924997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18593418502437906412011-12-25T00:05:12.042-06:002011-12-25T00:05:12.042-06:00I think that this is all evidence that we are a lo...I think that this is all evidence that we are a lot better at religious tolerance than most of the rest of the world - at a time when Christianity is especially under assault throughout much of the rest of the world, and, esp. Muslim world. Some of the longest surviving Christian communities, dating from not long after the death of Christ, are under serious attack right now. And, I would suggest that this tolerance is a good part of why we seem to support the very regimes that seem determined to wipe out these Christian communities. Think, for example, of the Administration's support for the Islamists in Egypt who are trying to kill or convert their Coptic community.Bruce Haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10815293023158025662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65497656928645024432011-12-24T23:56:59.378-06:002011-12-24T23:56:59.378-06:00I wonder how Romney would have responded to the re...<i>I wonder how Romney would have responded to the religious identification question</i>?<br /><br />Most likely "Christian". Most Mormon churches I have seen, and I see a lot living and traveling out west, now have "Church of Jesus Christ" in much larger lettering than "of the Latter Day Saints". But, you mostly don't need that to recognize Mormon churches - they mostly have a very distinctive style, and are apparently built on common designs. <br /><br />And, I have never heard as many Christmas carols, by a long shot, as when I lived in Salt Lake City. <br /><br />Part of Mormonism has a feel of traditional mainline Protestantism, for good historical reasons. Maybe Methodist, because of the top-down structure and having Bishops. <br /><br />I think that the problem is mostly the other way around - that many "Christians" don't think of Mormons as "Christian", led by, I believe, the Roman Catholic Church. But, at this time of year, the distinction is moot, because the major theological difference is not at the beginning of his life, but rather, what happened to Jesus after his Crucifixion.Bruce Haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10815293023158025662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63150632730465154012011-12-24T23:47:11.288-06:002011-12-24T23:47:11.288-06:00Penny wrote "Imagine a hat big enough to hold...Penny wrote "Imagine a hat big enough to hold 7 billion bits of folded over paper with just one name on it."<br /><br />They Might Be Giants wrote a song about it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dQLkxz6c2E" rel="nofollow">Ana Ng</a>.<br /><br />p.s. Thanks Rev.Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480329783749187372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50141399060782940612011-12-24T23:39:40.243-06:002011-12-24T23:39:40.243-06:00Here's to the 15%! But not just to the 15%. He...Here's to the 15%! But not just to the 15%. Here's to the 2.5%(*). I belong to the "don't waste my time" religion.<br /><br />(*) No response given .......... 2.5%Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480329783749187372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10061972365799282712011-12-24T23:23:28.413-06:002011-12-24T23:23:28.413-06:00"78% of American adults identify with some fo..."78% of American adults identify with some form of Christian religion"<br /><br />Meaningless statistic/poll. Nearly 100% of American adults likely will identify as mature and knowledgeable persons, but such is not the case.<br /><br />No lady or gentleman speaks on their own behalf. God alone can say that this person is a Christian, that a Moslem, etc. How easy is it for this person or that to be deluded, selfish, fawning, craven, calculating? Who among us is honest, thoroughly honest, in perceiving much less assessing one's own much less others' radically conditioned existence? Since when did partial awareness produce plenary exposition or render perfect justice? Anyone want to claim their consciousness, or even intent(!), is impartial, thoroughgoing, exhaustive and conclusive regarding all dimensions of reality?<br /><br />This statistic/poll is a non sequitur.David R. Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416692639208634879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79807329789424628052011-12-24T23:21:45.633-06:002011-12-24T23:21:45.633-06:00hey it's Christmas! It's supposed to be th...hey it's Christmas! It's supposed to be the merriest time of the year..oh, wait, that's a different holoday...<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlJ8ZCs4jY<br /><br />Merry Christmas, and don't let the Mayan doomsday prophecy get you!AlanKHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00415873942467466303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1584183435848142972011-12-24T22:58:19.009-06:002011-12-24T22:58:19.009-06:00"Even Hell has to be considered a Christian c..."Even Hell has to be considered a Christian community"<br /><br />Very good, very insightful, Hell IS a Christian community.<br /><br />However, the narrow gate goes to the other direction. Not that it matters. Heaven and Hell are both here on earth, no "later" about either.David R. Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416692639208634879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41326207997950743532011-12-24T22:45:17.234-06:002011-12-24T22:45:17.234-06:00No such thing exists. It is a made up idea and a d...<i>No such thing exists. It is a made up idea and a distortion of the First Ammendment.</i><br /><br />It is a phrase that has been used repeatedly by the Supreme Court, although, as you note, it doesn't appear in the Constitution. <br /><br />If the importance of something being used by the Supreme Court escapes you, I would recommend Marbury v Madison to get you up to speed.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02218298335571816099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-92098120940304598262011-12-24T22:44:39.420-06:002011-12-24T22:44:39.420-06:00(the Uncredentialed, Crypto Jew)
Think about this:...(the Uncredentialed, Crypto Jew)<br /><i>Think about this: something happened between 1620 and 1800 that allowed Christians to invent the new idea that slavery was wrong. I can't think of examples of slavery being even questioned before that time, it was just a fact</i><br /><br />PURITANS, happened...Quakers and Puritans....Wilberforce was a big-time CHRISTIAN. When we are ALL Yhwh's Equal...when we ALL can study the Gospel, one comes to the "slave" in a different light.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13846399206688807076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46923674684370459252011-12-24T22:43:17.513-06:002011-12-24T22:43:17.513-06:00Non Christians.. or as they are known here badfait...Non Christians.. or as they are known here <a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/12/you-may-have-noticed-new-comments.html" rel="nofollow"><i>badfaithers</i></a> ;)Lem the artificially intelligent https://www.blogger.com/profile/03569712564034666751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7960926961428875722011-12-24T22:29:19.244-06:002011-12-24T22:29:19.244-06:00"MrCharlie2, I don't know about Voltaire ..."MrCharlie2, I don't know about Voltaire but Spinoza and Jefferson weren't atheists."<br /><br />I intended them as examples of the stream of thought that allowed the old Christian culture to become modern, not as examples of atheists.<br /><br />Think about this: something happened between 1620 and 1800 that allowed Christians to invent the new idea that slavery was wrong. I can't think of examples of slavery being even questioned before that time, it was just a fact.<br /><br />On the subject of the militant atheists: think what it's like to know that some of your neighbors think that not paying lip service to a religion means that you are evil. That is what atheists in small towns in some parts of the US must live with.<br /><br />"Deny it."<br /><br />That anthropological reality naturally produces a defensive reaction. I think this is where the militant/neurotic atheists come from.<br /><br />This country would be a lot better off if we stopped bickering about dumb stuff. I know, I know, 50+ % of the population can do nothing but bicker/bitch/moan. But, thanks to Spinoza/Voltaire/Jefferson we have a substantial minority who have developed beyond that. <br /><br />And, before the whiners say it, that minority is not "the atheists". It's the thinking people of all persuasions. Which side do you want to be on?MrCharlie2https://www.blogger.com/profile/07938424707857154495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13091841668585624302011-12-24T22:07:30.581-06:002011-12-24T22:07:30.581-06:00Back when Time Magazine was published by Clair Bo...Back when Time Magazine was published by Clair Booth Luce, a practicing Catholic, Time ran a cover story on America's three major religions: The Jews, the Protestants and the Christians.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68672253688734956022011-12-24T21:05:22.022-06:002011-12-24T21:05:22.022-06:00I value anyone filing down.I value anyone filing down.Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42589383588998624442011-12-24T21:03:12.073-06:002011-12-24T21:03:12.073-06:00Why all the sharp edges?Why all the sharp edges?Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3616805844956976412011-12-24T20:00:49.579-06:002011-12-24T20:00:49.579-06:00evangelicals and mormons are to Christianity as li...evangelicals and mormons are to Christianity as like Mitt Romneyoid is to Jefferson. <br />Little or no relation.Perezosohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01875109580933192779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85815340746569262832011-12-24T18:45:58.900-06:002011-12-24T18:45:58.900-06:00No, there's no persecution of Christians here ...No, there's no persecution of Christians here in the US. But the truth is that despite their predominance in society, Christians are often quite limited when it comes to publicaccommodation for their beliefs. Moreso, there is considerable pressure from state and local governments, assisted by a few vocal atheists, to press further limitations on them.<br /><br />Persecuation? No. Vast amounts of irritation by a few atheists who have too much time on their hands? Yes.Erik Robert Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02414707902613699749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20871748553407966682011-12-24T18:40:07.684-06:002011-12-24T18:40:07.684-06:00Hoosier Daddy, speaking of ignorance, didn't s...Hoosier Daddy, speaking of ignorance, didn't say church attendance was a requirement of Christianity, only asked a question. <br /><br />And actually was putting forth the proposition that many who don't attend church are more loyal to religion than those who do.<br /><br />As reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, you have a merry Christmas!shilohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16490952508600134457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27167441766404519572011-12-24T18:25:13.479-06:002011-12-24T18:25:13.479-06:00roesch/voltaire is quoting Voltaire.
That explain...<i>roesch/voltaire is quoting Voltaire.</i><br /><br />That explains the sexist language. Old white man.DADvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621021178600799126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11740681727560056372011-12-24T17:59:07.343-06:002011-12-24T17:59:07.343-06:00Flash, the vast majority of Ancient Greeks believe...Flash, the vast majority of Ancient Greeks believed in Polytheism.Dantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07393170116669470751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88826779131412811732011-12-24T17:46:27.475-06:002011-12-24T17:46:27.475-06:00"... It would be useful to know the % of Chri..."... It would be useful to know the % of Christians who attend church on a regular basis..."<br /><br />Attending mass isn't a requirement of being a Christian. Then again your being ignorant of that fact isn't a surprise.Hoosier Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12872965118921894534noreply@blogger.com