tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post3969633177554329092..comments2024-03-29T10:03:20.826-05:00Comments on Althouse: "In a day and age where race is a near instant focus for media and other pundits in police incidents..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77844473172520935362017-02-19T13:22:06.187-06:002017-02-19T13:22:06.187-06:00"Does this make it more likely or less likely..."Does this make it more likely or less likely that the next black man will help a police officer who is endangered by another black man?"<br /><br />The vast majority of American men of ANY race will help a police officer in trouble.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472630838852985357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3542374414612179932017-02-19T10:26:45.034-06:002017-02-19T10:26:45.034-06:00Bring back the Duel. The people need someway outsi...Bring back the Duel. The people need someway outside of the courts to legally let off steam and right a perceived wrong. Would take a large bite out of violent crime which makes the victim a slave to their fears until death. And civil society and our ability to trust absolutely others with it. We must not allow this if America is to return to its roots. Where the community levied quick justice when beyond tar and feathering. Take a man's horse so he'll starve to death. You die.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87064893666017133112017-02-17T15:48:07.082-06:002017-02-17T15:48:07.082-06:00Stand your ground deals only with the common law &...Stand your ground deals only with the common law "duty to retreat" (i.e., one's back must be "against a wall") before self defense is used. Because the officer was pinned to the ground, stand your ground doesn't make a difference at all. If the common law retreat rule (the default in non SYG jurisdictions) was in place, the third party self defense would have been equally as justifiable.<br /><br />This is exactly why the Zimmerman-Martin case was not a SYG case. The jury found that Martin had pinned Zimmerman to the ground. And, being pinned to the ground and pounded is by law a threat of grave bodily harm, against which deadly force can be used in self defense.quizbowlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00435017297643979468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88767195698385070882017-02-17T15:11:23.241-06:002017-02-17T15:11:23.241-06:00I love how the "but was he armed?!" ques...I love how the "but was he armed?!" question is proffered for a guy <i>who had the cop on the ground and was beating him in the head</i>.<br /><br />You don't need weapons to kill or cripple someone by doing that.<br /><br />"Committing a violent felony, and continuing to do so" is more than enough, with good reason.Sigivaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152366541957466049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57470945873660197832017-02-17T13:04:49.244-06:002017-02-17T13:04:49.244-06:00Human life has variable, and, in fact, selective v...Human life has variable, and, in fact, selective value under the State-established Pro-Choice Church. Fortunately, there are people who deny this quasi-religion, reject the underlying twilight faith, and judge people by the content of their character, rather than the "color of their skin".n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17276124041492766482017-02-17T12:44:02.473-06:002017-02-17T12:44:02.473-06:00No comment from the Strother’s brothers parents, t...No comment from the Strother’s brothers parents, the ones that forgot to explain to their sons, "It's a bad idea to assault a police officer." MacMacConnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10675702658075274677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38565590348772954432017-02-17T11:57:02.853-06:002017-02-17T11:57:02.853-06:00And my CCP has reciprocity in enough states that I...And my CCP has reciprocity in enough states that I can travel diagonally across the US where it is valid. mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76371597948811895572017-02-17T11:54:07.550-06:002017-02-17T11:54:07.550-06:00Hey, Washington State does, too! I still have min...Hey, Washington State does, too! I still have mine as I am still officially a WA resident but will be able to get one easily here in AZ, too. mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61741096472761441782017-02-17T11:28:18.296-06:002017-02-17T11:28:18.296-06:00An armed society is a polite society.”
~Robert Hei...An armed society is a polite society.”<br />~Robert Heinlein<br /><br />1 U.S. jurisdictions that have constitutional carry<br />1.1 Alaska<br />1.2 Arizona<br />1.3 Arkansas[disputed]<br />1.4 Idaho (residents only)<br />1.5 Kansas<br />1.6 Maine<br />1.7 Mississippi<br />1.8 Missouri<br />1.9 Vermont<br />1.10 West Virginia<br />1.11 Wyoming (residents only)<br />2 U.S. States that have a limited form of permitless concealed carry<br />2.1 Montana (outside city limits)<br />2.2 New Hampshire (unloaded weapon & loaded magazine)<br />2.3 New Mexico (unloaded weapon & loaded magazine, vehicle carry)<br />2.4 Oklahoma (residents of constitutional carry states)<br /><br />Please note that these states are notoriously dangerous and violent.Roy Lofquisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16536815900678298041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19653040710413887992017-02-17T10:47:17.601-06:002017-02-17T10:47:17.601-06:00"I watched the press conference with the guy ..."I watched the press conference with the guy in Phoenix"<br /><br />I did, too and felt for him.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28158462151406990822017-02-17T10:46:23.646-06:002017-02-17T10:46:23.646-06:00Are you ever embarrassed by the things you post? T...<i>Are you ever embarrassed by the things you post? The left is truly deranged. You have turned the corner and your amorality is out there for everyone to see.</i><br /><br />No, next question.<br /><br />Also why I almost never feed trolls.<br /><br />I confess to a few temptations surrendered to but it is always a waste of time.<br /><br />Ten or twelve years ago I had some useful debates over at Washington Monthly with lefties but that all changed about 2004.<br /><br />It may have been Iraq or the 2000 election but left wingers mostly went off the deep end about then.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16703027113021368722017-02-17T09:30:58.276-06:002017-02-17T09:30:58.276-06:00I probably wouldn't have focused on race, but ...I probably wouldn't have focused on race, but yeah the guy is a hero.<br /><br />Michael K, I watched the press conference with the guy in Phoenix. He was obviously very haunted by the fact he took someone's life, even though he knew he had to. A good guy.Bircheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00045640752795693223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55281129815418297272017-02-17T09:27:56.809-06:002017-02-17T09:27:56.809-06:00Why draw attention to race?
You're trying to...<i>Why draw attention to race? </i><br /><br />You're trying to prevent BLM riots?Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09159859859522615418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73827829851913346072017-02-17T09:27:00.701-06:002017-02-17T09:27:00.701-06:00What would have happened if: 1. Russell hadn't...<i>What would have happened if: 1. Russell hadn't had a gun? 2. Russell had a gun but not a concealed-carry permit? 3. Russell had a gun and a concealed-carry permit but Florida didn't have a stand-your-ground law?</i><br /><br />1. There is always the "kick-em in the balls or head move"<br /><br />2. I think you confuse CCW, with the possibility that the gun was still legal. Open carry is legal in Florida, as is carrying a loaded weapon in your glove box. Now if the bystander were an ex-felon, but of course, his "team" might be in question then...<br /><br />3. Self defense of a third party, or the possibility that the bystander felt threatened still makes it potentially justifiable. You really think the injured cop is going to testify against the bystander? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57003125747004101722017-02-17T09:21:01.662-06:002017-02-17T09:21:01.662-06:00Of more immediate importance to Bardes, what have ...Of more immediate importance to Bardes, what have happend if Strother <i>had</i> been armed, or if had taken Bardes' weapon?Lancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06319411779044647512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12234958539614421132017-02-17T09:20:08.614-06:002017-02-17T09:20:08.614-06:00Russell had a concealed weapons permit, as do many...Russell had a concealed weapons permit, as do many Americans, and used his weapon appropriately. Race shouldn't enter into to it. Yes, he is a hero. mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67181227477022921512017-02-17T09:13:08.480-06:002017-02-17T09:13:08.480-06:00Unknown said...
"Most Black people will come ... Unknown said...<br />"Most Black people will come to the defense of someone irrespective of their color. So, will a White, Brown and Yellow person. Only Trumpies believe White people do not commit any crime whatsoever in this world."<br /><br />Are you ever embarrassed by the things you post? The left is truly deranged. You have turned the corner and your amorality is out there for everyone to see.<br /><br />There is no way you can not see the shooter as a hero. It is one thing to protest police tactics. But anyone who would assault a police officer with clear intent to end his life like this is not doing any community any good. Achilleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04109507896997459818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7899609233005886212017-02-17T09:05:04.447-06:002017-02-17T09:05:04.447-06:00"Why draw attention to race? Why focus on Rus..."Why draw attention to race? Why focus on Russell's race and his willingness to shoot another black man? Does this make it more likely or less likely that the next black <br />man will help a police officer who is endangered by another black man?"<br /><br />Seems that you have answered your own question. We focus on race because we know it is a very powerful predictor of behavior. Almost as powerful as sex. But if you really want to know, who is most likely to help a cop in trouble, it's not the man, or the woman, nor the black, nor the white. It's the person who is legally carrying a concealed firearm. Jupiterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13008508862847561845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15282488937710145682017-02-17T09:02:54.467-06:002017-02-17T09:02:54.467-06:00Georgw Zimmermann was unavailable for comment.Georgw Zimmermann was unavailable for comment.Hagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05011701168912339784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16524004984684050842017-02-17T08:44:27.021-06:002017-02-17T08:44:27.021-06:00I live near where this happened - it was a big big...I live near where this happened - it was a big big deal in the local papers (we have old people so still have a good newspaper) and local radio.<br /><br />The gunshop down the street offered the guy a free gun since his was in custody. Apparently he got a lot of offers like that.<br /><br />Florida, man.<br /><br />-XCExpat(ish)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14735123290866640101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83251436542460942262017-02-17T08:39:55.163-06:002017-02-17T08:39:55.163-06:00Naturally, the lefties side with the cop assailant...Naturally, the lefties side with the cop assailant.<br /><br />What a world they would create if allowed to rule. We already saw that with Obama.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34715085437338135502017-02-17T08:38:03.984-06:002017-02-17T08:38:03.984-06:00There was a somewhat similar case in Phoenix a mon...There was a somewhat similar case in Phoenix a month ago. In that case, <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/12/us/arizona-good-samaritan-kills-man-beating-trooper/" rel="nofollow"> the bad guy who was, of course, an illegal alien, was armed and shot the state trooper from ambush. </a><br /><br />The good guy stopped and went back to his car for his gun when the trooper asked for help. He alos told the bad guy to stop beating the wounded cop before shooting him.<br /><br />The good guy is of unknown ethnic background although he seems to have a lot of tattoos.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32899480039283916322017-02-17T08:21:20.139-06:002017-02-17T08:21:20.139-06:00AReasonableMan said...It is difficult to frame any...<i>AReasonableMan said...It is difficult to frame any lethal shooting of an unarmed person as successful policing.</i><br /><br />The guy who did the shooting isn't a police officer, so criticism of him for bad policing doesn't make much sense. I doubt the officer thinks things went well in this situation so I'm not sure what criticism of him for bad policing would really mean. "You shouldn't have gotten your ass kicked by a guy to the point that you were in danger of being killed and had to be saved by an armed civilian." Yeah, I'm sure he agrees.<br /><br />"Unarmed" is a funny word when used to soften the fact that a guy was doing his best to beat another guy to death and/or beat another guy and take that guy's gun (thus arming himself).HoodlumDoodlumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17591221162603652473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26157499879616519702017-02-17T08:18:52.034-06:002017-02-17T08:18:52.034-06:00I guess police will back off supporting outlawing ...I guess police will back off supporting outlawing carry of guns by the good guys now. They were for it once as a monopoly seemed good until Kill Cops became the Soros paid agitators theme.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54729071515141400862017-02-17T08:06:15.172-06:002017-02-17T08:06:15.172-06:00“They are calling him a good Samaritan?... Was my ...“They are calling him a good Samaritan?... Was my brother armed?”<br /><br />He was trying to be, and in another few seconds might have been.Larvellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17627555884168845618noreply@blogger.com