tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post3821554737831972053..comments2024-03-29T10:04:29.029-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Wisconsin voters essentially have been asked to cast ballots every 60 days for more than a year..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger209125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79342916119540506022012-06-05T12:25:53.986-05:002012-06-05T12:25:53.986-05:00Which is why the video ended where it did and the ...<i>Which is why the video ended where it did and the videographer would not release the rest. Because he lists the reforms</i><br /><br />Show me a link that shows him saying what you claim he said.<br /><br /><i>Liar and and an idiot.</i><br /><br />You talk like this in real life? No wonder your families and friends have stopped discussing any differences of opinion with you.purplepenquinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985523216476971244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70716106179693832742012-06-05T11:30:27.885-05:002012-06-05T11:30:27.885-05:00Alllie, you are an idiot. Painfully dumb.
And ve...Alllie, you are an idiot. Painfully dumb.<br /><br /><br />And very proud of it.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44296927232879182932012-06-05T07:03:33.002-05:002012-06-05T07:03:33.002-05:00"purplepenquin said...
This video shows that ..."purplepenquin said...<br />This video shows that he was answering a question about how to get Right to Work laws passed in Wisconsin, and that "Divide and Conquer" is an exact quote from his response."<br /><br />More falsehoods. There were two questions dumbshit:<br /><br />1) Becoming a completely red state and dealing with the unions<br />2) Becoming a right to work state<br /><br />Walker started answering before the second. He was answering the first. The divide and conquer was separating the public unions and other special interest groups from government to allow reform. Which is why the video ended where it did and the videographer would not release the rest. Because he lists the reforms. Nothing further was said about "right to work".<br /><br />Liar and and an idiot.Curious Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14440726941494085334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65941561418625175482012-06-05T05:58:44.253-05:002012-06-05T05:58:44.253-05:00And Finchy, I'm immune to anything the poo-thr...<i>And Finchy, I'm immune to anything the poo-throwing monkeys have to say, it really doesn't affect me the way they want it to, because I KNOW BETTER what I am capable of. <br /><br />Perhaps you need to learn to recognize truth when you see it.</i><br /><br />Well, Finchy, how can you argue against ironclad logic like that?Christopher in MAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06833020990663388610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85236816750912322792012-06-05T05:40:02.050-05:002012-06-05T05:40:02.050-05:00"If Walker wins, what are the lessons",
..."If Walker wins, what are the lessons",<br /><br />Walker's reforms poll in the 70s, but his recall support is only in the 50s. Lesson: roughly 20% of Wisconsinites know his actions are good for Wisconsin but still want him gone because their loyalty to the Democratic Party is greater than their desire to improve economic conditions in their state.testhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09478829894294731159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45533839303186090192012-06-05T02:10:16.850-05:002012-06-05T02:10:16.850-05:00Great article, as always, from John Fund, "If...Great article, as always, from John Fund, "If Walker wins, what are the lessons",<br />http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/301674<br /><br />Read the well researched article but some key points and quotes:<br />* it is very likely Walker will win<br />* the left will blame Obama some for Walker's victory<br />* the recall process has helped put Wisconsin in play in the prez election<br />* voters see Walker's reforms as working, Walker solved the budget crisis without raising taxes or cutting services, Wisconsin's business climate has improved tremendously.<br /><br />Great quote:<br />"Walker victory will expose for all to see the dirty little secret of the power of public-sector unions in America: It depends on having the government collect union dues from every employee’s paycheck, and turning the dues over to the unions without the employee’s consent. No other private entity in America — no charity, no association, no company — can do that.<br /><br />Walker’s reforms ended that practice. Workers can now decide if they want to pay union dues. Clearly, the answer is no in many cases.<br /><br />The American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees was founded in Madison in 1936, making the state the launching pad for all public-sector-union organizing in the country. But now AFSCME’s Local 24 in Madison, which represented 22,300 Wisconsin state workers last year, has seen its membership shrink by two-thirds, to 7,100. Statewide, AFSCME’s membership has dropped by more than half. Similarly, the American Federation of Teachers has lost 6,000 of its 17,000 members. Small wonder. Teachers’-union dues in Wisconsin range from a hefty $700 a year up to more than $1,000.<br /><br />Labor historian Fred Siegel says Walker’s changes could provide a model for reshaping American politics. “Ending dues deductions breaks the political cycle in which government collects dues and gives them to the unions, who then use the dues to back their favorite candidates and also lobby for bigger government and more pay and benefits,” he told me."<br /><br />The reason that dems are completely incapable of arguing persuasively is that their position is indefensible. How is a dem supposed to defend compulsory confiscation of state worker's salary to pay union dues? They can't so the discussion inevitably deteriorates into name calling.<br /><br />The article also points out the conflict between public union members and private sector unions that can be exploited by the GOP. Read the article.Steve Kochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13077530042599697923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29583435815253781682012-06-05T00:43:46.652-05:002012-06-05T00:43:46.652-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23074506055528497262012-06-05T00:21:02.875-05:002012-06-05T00:21:02.875-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.purplepenquinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985523216476971244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55582851248349400932012-06-04T23:43:21.261-05:002012-06-04T23:43:21.261-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63618491603757833972012-06-04T23:39:58.706-05:002012-06-04T23:39:58.706-05:00Does the smiley face mean that you don't belei...<i>Does the smiley face mean that you don't beleive this yourself</i><br /><br />It means that you amuse me. :)Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24263587050352654932012-06-04T23:38:01.163-05:002012-06-04T23:38:01.163-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.purplepenquinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985523216476971244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83533962785601719492012-06-04T23:32:39.734-05:002012-06-04T23:32:39.734-05:00Finchy, recheck my links, the only partisan link I...Finchy, recheck my links, the only partisan link I posted was from the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, oh and maybe the Veterans link. Horrors! Democratic Veterans!<br /><br />And Finchy, I'm immune to anything the poo throwing monkeys here have to say, it really doesn't affect me the way they want it to, because I KNOW BETTER, what I am capable of. <br /><br />Perhaps you need to learn to recognize truth when you see it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86382189506147479902012-06-04T23:19:03.343-05:002012-06-04T23:19:03.343-05:00Bleh.. it's painful reading people calling All...Bleh.. it's painful reading people calling AllieOop names. Jesus people, be better than that. Every time one of you lowers yourself to that kind of nonsense, this place starts to resemble the moveon or dailykos forums where that kind of nonsense is what passes for intellectualism.<br /><br />That being said, Allie, I don't think you're stupid. I DO however think you're lazy and either don't know much about the issues or don't have much conviction in your positions. From what I've seen, the vast majority of your posts consist of one line, often with a link to a far from objective political site.<br /><br />What do you believe in? What's Walker done that that you disagree with and why? Your profile says you're a semi-retired nurse so I assume that means you're a union employee and have some skin in the game with the union reforms. If that's the case, make a compelling argument that public sector unions continue to deserve the riches they've received in the past.<br /><br />CONTRIBUTE something.Finchyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10091423392838616851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44807046708587076342012-06-04T23:13:41.304-05:002012-06-04T23:13:41.304-05:00I shouldn't have capitalized prince:)
Yeah wh...I shouldn't have capitalized prince:)<br /><br />Yeah why is Revenent giving you smiley faces, he never gives me any.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60723490939933965512012-06-04T23:08:27.658-05:002012-06-04T23:08:27.658-05:00Your belief that "opponents of the right to w...<i>Your belief that "opponents of the right to work" and "the people of Wisconsin" are synonymous does not reflect reality. :)</i><br /><br />Does the smiley face mean that you don't beleive this yourself, but rather you're jokingly trying to conjure up what CurioGeo is gonna say when/if he responds? <br /><br />'cause this is really some twisted wordplay you're getting into...exactly the sort of thing I've come to expect from him.<br /><br /><br /><br />And Allie, you owe a huge apology to the Man-Formally-Known-As-A-Symbol.purplepenquinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985523216476971244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10813237804570906472012-06-04T22:58:09.736-05:002012-06-04T22:58:09.736-05:00Ah that Curious George, he's a Prince among mo...Ah that Curious George, he's a Prince among monkeys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83717806625601402162012-06-04T22:55:48.789-05:002012-06-04T22:55:48.789-05:00Just 'cause Walker said he wanted to divide an...<i>Just 'cause Walker said he wanted to divide and conquer a lot of workers in Wisconsin doesn't mean he wanted to divide and conquer people of Wisconsin.</i><br /><br />Your belief that "opponents of the right to work" and "the people of Wisconsin" are synonymous does not reflect reality. :)Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28258449766966586692012-06-04T22:43:25.008-05:002012-06-04T22:43:25.008-05:00Which means that your original claim that he plann...<i>Which means that your original claim that he planned to "divide and conquer the people of Wisconsin" was false. :)</i><br /><br />Oh, I get it now.<br /><br />Just 'cause Walker said he wanted to divide and conquer a lot of workers in Wisconsin doesn't mean he wanted to divide and conquer people of Wisconsin. <br /><br />'cause workers ain't people, eh?<br /><br />*sigh*<br /><br />Doesn't surprise me if that is what CurioGeo is claiming...after all, he used to post videos of union workers dying on the job just so he could laugh about it. Given his hate-filled attitude, it totally makes sense that he doesn't look at me...or any union members...as a fellow human being. <br /><br /><br />Then again, maybe he hadn't actually seen the video clip nor heard anything about it. It is hard to say when he refuses to state exactly what he is objecting to in the statement.<br /><br />I reckon we'll find out which it is when/if he responds.purplepenquinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985523216476971244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49693751300835468732012-06-04T21:57:23.212-05:002012-06-04T21:57:23.212-05:00This video shows that he was answering a question ...<i>This video shows that he was answering a question about how to get Right to Work laws passed in Wisconsin, and that "Divide and Conquer" is an exact quote from his response.</i><br /><br />Which means that your original claim that he planned to "divide and conquer the people of Wisconsin" was false. :)Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49163488457982535872012-06-04T21:29:24.499-05:002012-06-04T21:29:24.499-05:00Don't get cocky Walker supporters. The Feds wi...Don't get cocky Walker supporters. The Feds will be there tomorrow to make sure all the schoolteachers from Illinois and Iowa and Minnesota get to vote. Keep your video phones handy.glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00993381999736874161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43094678148448321652012-06-04T21:01:19.685-05:002012-06-04T21:01:19.685-05:00Another falsehood.
Well, gee...it is kinda hard t...<i>Another falsehood.</i><br /><br />Well, gee...it is kinda hard to argue against such a well-thought out response like that! <br /><br />*rolls eyes*<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b83mgs9eDQ&feature=youtu.be&t=26s" rel="nofollow">This video</a> shows that he was answering a question about how to get Right to Work laws passed in Wisconsin, and that "Divide and Conquer" is an exact quote from his response.purplepenquinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985523216476971244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66774066162111081262012-06-04T20:58:04.038-05:002012-06-04T20:58:04.038-05:00We Ask America
Shouldn't they be asking Wisc...<i>We Ask America <br /><br /></i>Shouldn't they be asking Wisconsin?MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87303978857014940802012-06-04T20:51:26.357-05:002012-06-04T20:51:26.357-05:00"He's a good dude."
YMMV.<i>"He's a good dude."</i><br /><br />YMMV.Original Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714345479248980398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77937087453532850802012-06-04T19:55:21.237-05:002012-06-04T19:55:21.237-05:00"purplepenquin said...
Walker told her that h..."purplepenquin said...<br />Walker told her that he can do that but he needs to "divide and conquer" the people of Wisconsin first, and that busting the public sector unions is the first step towards that goal."<br /><br />Another falsehood.Curious Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14440726941494085334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3995421269992361532012-06-04T19:03:53.771-05:002012-06-04T19:03:53.771-05:00Too much politics. It's really unfair to norma...<i>Too much politics. It's really unfair to normal people.</i><br /><br />Too much politics, yet you're constantly blogging about it? Uhhmmm...ok. :D<br /><br /><i>Walker is coy about right-to-work aspirations. You'd think it would be an obvious next step, but I don't think he's ever made a public statement that he supports it.</i><br /><br />He co-sponsored a "Right to Work" bill when he was still a legislator. When running for Governor the first time, one of his biggest supporters asked him about making Wisconsin a "Right to Work" state. Walker told her that he can do that but he needs to "divide and conquer" the people of Wisconsin first, and that busting the public sector unions is the first step towards that goal.purplepenquinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985523216476971244noreply@blogger.com