tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post3642265041553863681..comments2024-03-28T10:18:40.790-05:00Comments on Althouse: "A quarrelsome claque of five right-wing justices... These arrogant men scorned..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58819044340245679362007-07-06T07:26:00.000-05:002007-07-06T07:26:00.000-05:00Right, because without federal intervention hundre...Right, because without federal intervention hundreds of years of racism and self-segregations would magically have ended of its own accord in the mid-70's.<BR/><BR/>How silly of me to suggest otherwise.Wade Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02427231454565149921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11487032058475584082007-07-06T04:55:00.000-05:002007-07-06T04:55:00.000-05:00but for the federal government's intervention for ...<I>but for the federal government's intervention <B>for the first 20 of</B> the past 50 years, we would still be living in a backwards, racially segregated, near-apartheid society.</I><BR/><BR/>There was an error in your post. I've corrected it.<BR/><BR/>No sensible person can think that federal oversight was necessary to keep American society from becoming "near apartheid" after the later 1970s. Especially since that federal oversight *ended* years ago -- the programs thrown out by the Court were cooked up at the local level.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68373020097310248252007-07-06T04:49:00.000-05:002007-07-06T04:49:00.000-05:00Is Jesse Jackson, or in fact any one of the critic...<I>Is Jesse Jackson, or in fact any one of the critics, literate?</I><BR/><BR/>Jesse Jackson is neither stupid nor ignorant, although his followers are typically one or both of those things. He's found a schtick that makes him a lot of money, and he's milking it for all it is worth -- which is obviously quite a bit, given that he somehow went from "son of teenage unwed mother" to "multimillionaire" without having any career outside of "activism". Nice work if you can get it, I guess.<BR/><BR/>It doesn't matter if Jackson's claims make sense or not, because he's not appealing to people who actually know anything about politics. He's appealing to angry black voters who aren't smart or educated enough to have something intelligent to be angry about, and channeling that anger into his own bank account.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73451872987124648552007-07-05T15:26:00.000-05:002007-07-05T15:26:00.000-05:00I agree with you about the charlatans who, in the ...I agree with you about the charlatans who, in the name of promoting tolerance, continue to use race to divide people. Trust me, I get it.<BR/><BR/>But, I think there is a much larger truth here, which fans of the Supreme Court decision willfully ignore. Yes, today's children are more racially tolerant than were children of 50 years ago, but that is largely due to the Brown v. Board of Education decision and the civil rights movement which grew out of its aftermath. I'm wary of any move away from federal oversight of racial segregation, because but for the federal government's intervention over the past 50 years, we would still be living in a backwards, racially segregated, near-apartheid society.<BR/><BR/>People who say that the school your student attends should be based solely on market forces ignore the fact that state and local governments rigged the system for decades in the name of allowing "market forces" to re-segregate their schools. Consider the countless cities who created new, smaller, suburban school districts, then tore up otherwise vibrant black neighborhoods in order to build highways, allowing rich white people in the new, distant suburban school districts the hassles of a length commute. Of the five cities in which I have lived, that fact pattern is true for all of them, with the exception of Madison, which never had a black neighborhood, or a large black population, to begin with.Wade Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02427231454565149921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87998835968958771042007-07-05T12:14:00.000-05:002007-07-05T12:14:00.000-05:00Wade - Racism does not exist today in America beca...Wade - <BR/><BR/>Racism does not exist today in America because of segregated schools.<BR/><BR/>The data for successful racial attitudes coming from forced integration schools in America over the last 14 years has only been evidence of incredibly diminishing racial attitude returns.<BR/><BR/>Forced integration - and that is any child and family forced - has seen it's day. It is time to stop using children as pawns for someone's outdated notion of the value of forced school racial "diversity".<BR/><BR/>America's young people, as reported last week in the Times, are much more tolerant and open in racial attitudes than in previous generations. <BR/><BR/>And Wade, here's the startling point - it happened to a generation that was schooled in <B>fewer</B> integrated schools per American public school student than the previous 2 generations. Mark that: <B>Fewer</B><BR/><BR/>So how did those preferable race relations happen without the "word from on high" order to integrate and racially diversify? Finding the answers to that is a far better use of your time and children's futres than effortlessly throwing out the "well, segregation is bad, because, it just is , OK." Of course forced segregation - the refusal to allow someone from the neighborhood to attend because he or she is of a different race - is wrong.<BR/><BR/>Again - why are younger people more tolerant racially, to the point of a majority (for the first time in this survey) believing that they would have no problem dating someone of a different race?<BR/><BR/>Which is just an additional proof that "school integration" - while sounding noble and divisive - is no longer working to change racial attitudes.<BR/><BR/>Racism is still a problem. But the racial hucksters - Jackson, Sharpton, et al. are banking on an emotional, non-thinking reaction to any accusation of racism that they may make. In the meantime, they do damage to the cause of race relations on this country.<BR/><BR/>SO, drop the idea that forcing someone else's child to go to a school away from his neighborhood friends will simply make racism eventually go away.Brenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02480180418373862524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31466325490569581512007-07-05T09:34:00.000-05:002007-07-05T09:34:00.000-05:00Here's what bothers me about this Supreme Court de...Here's what bothers me about this Supreme Court decision:<BR/><BR/>Southern cities had de jure segregation, which the Constitution ruled to be illegal. Immediately thereafter, city councils and state legislatures began re-drawing district boundary lines in order to maintain all-white schools, or as close to all-white schools as they possibly could, while still complying with Brown v. Board. They knew how to do this because northern cities had already been doing it for decades.<BR/><BR/>Justice Roberts' opinion was pithy, but also smug and naive. If he believes that racism will disappear in the wake of this opinion, because it eliminates racial classifications, then he has another think coming. All he has done is open the door for elected officials to gerrymander school districts to exclude young black students. Our schools will be segregated again in no time. Not simply "undiverse." Segregated.Wade Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02427231454565149921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37555219103893336512007-07-04T18:33:00.000-05:002007-07-04T18:33:00.000-05:00I have decided that our Steve Simels is not THE St...I have decided that our Steve Simels is not THE Steve Simels. I have read and enjoyed the real Mr. Simels. He is a very good writer, and has a lot of thoughtful points to make.<BR/><BR/>I rest my case. You sir, are no Steve Simels.<BR/><BR/>TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81656854007248104972007-07-04T14:59:00.000-05:002007-07-04T14:59:00.000-05:00...what B said at 1:51. Government should defend ......what B said at 1:51. Government should defend the borders, do a little bit to help the proverbial trains run on time, and otherwise leave us alone.<BR/><BR/>As I've said elsewhere, it's time not only for term limits for Congress, but also for bureaucrats of all stripes. With the exception of the military and maybe the Postal Service, nobody should be suckling at the government teat for more than ten years of his/her working life.Kevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01433235586096305061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45463646141781042852007-07-04T13:07:00.000-05:002007-07-04T13:07:00.000-05:00Balfegor,Is it trying when you actually do?On Appr...Balfegor,<BR/><BR/>Is it trying when you actually do?<BR/><BR/>On Appropriate Pop Music For This Thread<BR/><BR/>We'll be fighting in the streets<BR/>With our children at our feet<BR/>And the morals that they worship will be gone<BR/><BR/>And the folk that spurred us on<BR/>Sit in judgement of our wrong<BR/>They decide and the shotgun sings the songmythusmagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10458869083534878283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46786239482269136802007-07-04T13:05:00.000-05:002007-07-04T13:05:00.000-05:00Why oh why do all the intelligent people keep miss...Why oh why do all the intelligent people keep missing the point of Seattle?<BR/><BR/>The point is: government - even local government - has no business interfering in the lives of students in any such way.<BR/><BR/>But, the "community" decided that integration is necessary. No the "community" didn't. The people in power, with their misguided understanding of what it means to "educate" a child is, decided about real children and real families<BR/><BR/>WHY? That horse, and it's successes and failures is dead.<BR/><BR/>Tell your local government - especially all you "keep your hands off my body" liberals - to just leave the students and families ALONE. Do your job: <BR/><BR/>Build the schools<BR/>Staff the schools<BR/>Teach the students in your school's area - and teach them the basics before ANY social crap - and teach it well.<BR/>Shut the **** up about any and everything else.<BR/><BR/>What a world of problems we would avoid if people in power could only bring themselves to not overreach with their pet philosophies and ideologies!<BR/><BR/>But no, we have to experiment on everyone's kids.<BR/><BR/>I'm certain that there is a special area of hell waiting for school board members and education bureaucrats . . .Brenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02480180418373862524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9737401755236937962007-07-04T12:13:00.000-05:002007-07-04T12:13:00.000-05:00Hey, be careful there, Sarge.Mr. Simels is a POP M...Hey, be careful there, Sarge.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Simels is a <B>POP MUSIC CRITIC</B>, and the term “progressive” has very serious implications in the nomenclature of <B>POP MUSIC</B>.<BR/><BR/>Don’t misuse it like that or Mr. Simels might loose the fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword. <BR/><BR/>You were able to dodge that Village People bullet.<BR/><BR/>But what happens if Mr. Simels drops the hammer with an allusion to <A HREF="http://www.mattscdsingles.com/acatalog/sister%20sledge%20family.jpg" REL="nofollow">Sister Sledge?</A><BR/><BR/>Wouldn’t <I>that</I> be the Big Bopper!!!Bissagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04439910009646381418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30175452010358276622007-07-04T12:12:00.000-05:002007-07-04T12:12:00.000-05:00JackDRipper said..."Romney will be President and B...JackDRipper said...<BR/>"<I>Romney will be President and Bill Owens of Colorado will be VP. Bet on it.</I>"<BR/><BR/>Funny you should put it quite that way, because the people who <I>do</I> bet on it at tradesports aren't betting on it. I would be very surprised if Romney got the nomination, although my presumption is that he'd win in the fall.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I think the ticket's going to be Thompson-Steele, and the first nominee will be Sykes or Clement. I'd be exceedingly surprised if Luttig ever gets nominated, and frankly a little disappointed. Just as Romney flip-flopped once on abortion and presents little convincing reason why he might not again, so after Luttig abandoned ship prematurely once, there's no reason to believe he wouldn't again (even if one were inclined to reward such action). Luttig is a smart guy and was a great judge, but you <I>don't abandon your post.</I>Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065798213115341398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80762204810498133282007-07-04T11:31:00.000-05:002007-07-04T11:31:00.000-05:00Ann,When I first read the comment "Let the thinly ...Ann,<BR/><BR/>When I first read the comment "Let the thinly veiled racist spew begin", I honestly thought Simels was talking about Jackson's rant. (No, really.) But I think maybe his 9:11 comment was meant as a clarification, and that he was actually referring to himself.Kirk Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05921711310191924997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17659295404072426012007-07-04T11:28:00.000-05:002007-07-04T11:28:00.000-05:00Simon - "I think it's highly unlikely that if Romn...<I>Simon - "I think it's highly unlikely that if Romney ever becomes President, Stevens will still be around - he might end up as the veep in this cycle, but I don't see him getting the nomination."</I><BR/><BR/>Romney will be President and Bill Owens of Colorado will be VP.<BR/><BR/>Bet on it.<BR/><BR/>Owens will recommend fellow Texan Luttig to replace Stevens on the court.JackDRipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14362920581900333503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15123900604411901942007-07-04T11:09:00.000-05:002007-07-04T11:09:00.000-05:00Hey we're even beyond heat tabs now. We have heate...Hey we're even beyond heat tabs now. <BR/><BR/>We have heater sleeves for our MRE's that make a most impressive water bottle bomb. Crunch up, pour into bottle add water and seal, wait for kablooey fun!SGT Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00184808889760136366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48484540857595535422007-07-04T10:40:00.000-05:002007-07-04T10:40:00.000-05:00Cedarford said...The guardsman wussed out. Last ye...<I>Cedarford said...The guardsman wussed out. Last year they said drunkenly they would try and get a little C-4 to set off. </I><BR/><BR/>Ah, my misspent youth, lost under a banana tree in the rain, cooking C-rats over a small chunk of burning C-4. Those were the days :)<BR/><BR/>For all those progressive Pop music critics listening, C-4 needs both heat and shock to set it off. Thus, (normally, YMMV :) you can burn it without having it explode. We used to take little chunks out of claymore mines (never had any VC complain about that) in order to have something to heat meals with. Now days they give our soldiers fancy ass heat tabs... makes em soft I says...The Drill SGThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16394309533144027391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35669455410758436392007-07-04T10:36:00.000-05:002007-07-04T10:36:00.000-05:00Is Jesse Jackson, or in fact any one of the critic...Is Jesse Jackson, or in fact any one of the critics, literate? <BR/><BR/>The decision, meaning the portions that five justices agreed to, didn't overthrow race-based diversity programs. It merely said that you can't use strict population proportionality without explaining why strict population proportionality is necessary to achieve diversity.<BR/><BR/>For example, let us consider a two-school district where the 500 students are 40% black, 20% white, 20% Chinese, and 20% Cuban. If pure geography results in one shcool where the racial makeup is 33% black, 25% white, 21% Chinese, and 22% Cuban, while the other school is 48% black, 15% white, 19% Chinese, and 18% Cuban, you can't use racial quotas to equalize the percentages in the schools unless you can show one of the schools is insufficiently integrated to have an educational benefit from diversity.<BR/><BR/>And of course, there's Stevens's insane "No member of the court I joined in 1975 would have agreed with today's decision," repeated by Jackson. What, not even Rehnquist? Is the man senile, or just lying?Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05138730966226244399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81802359414954669802007-07-04T10:28:00.000-05:002007-07-04T10:28:00.000-05:00Is Steve Simels the blogger the same Steve Simels ...Is Steve Simels the blogger the same Steve Simels who is the world's foremost authority on the music of Lawrence Welk?mtrobertsattorneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09428761048285792427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20400072826212166152007-07-04T10:26:00.000-05:002007-07-04T10:26:00.000-05:00JackDRipper said..."Only thing better would be to ...JackDRipper said...<BR/>"<I>Only thing better would be to have Pres. Romney replace JP Stevens with Michael Luttig...</I>"<BR/><BR/>I don't think anyone who abandons their post is fit for promotion. There are any number of people I would nominate to the Supreme Court ahead of Luttig, no matter how good he looked a year or two ago.<BR/><BR/>(And FWIW, I think it's highly unlikely that if Romney ever becomes President, Stevens will still be around - he might end up as the veep in this cycle, but I don't see him getting the nomination.)Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065798213115341398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79364179192766760632007-07-04T10:24:00.000-05:002007-07-04T10:24:00.000-05:00Is it the holiday? How else to explain the sudden ...Is it the holiday? How else to explain the sudden coincidental appearance of a cluster of morons, such as Steve and Dave.<BR/><BR/><BR/>School's out for summer. <I> Alice Cooper</I>Dust Bunny Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13341429444562280127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3160806636688648232007-07-04T10:22:00.001-05:002007-07-04T10:22:00.001-05:00I plan on spending this 4th as our family did last...I plan on spending this 4th as our family did last year - hanging with neighbors, including 2 guardsmen back from Iraq. Drinking beer and setting off illegal fireworks and teaching kids how to set illegal fireworks off safely.<BR/><BR/>Much barbecuing! 2 pork shoulders have been slow-roasting and smoking since last night as our family's contribution, along with enough rum and mojito base to get even an Australian drunk.. Kids will also learn how to safely use gasoline to start charcoal fires (gas leaves no aftertaste unlike charcoal lighter fluid - trick is to douse it and light it before much gas vapor forms). <BR/><BR/>It is just a little way to assert liberty and independence from safety Nazis...and to have the lil' buggers later tell their educrats that fireworks and gasoline are damn fine things when handled safely.<BR/><BR/>Two Muslim doctors will attend! (Both are drug researchers, not MDs). Last year they and the guardsmen got along famously. No pork, beer for them! Last year they brought Hebrew National kosher dogs to the picnic.<BR/><BR/>The guardsman wussed out. Last year they said drunkenly they would try and get a little C-4 to set off. No go. Probably because of the 10-20 year stretch in Leavenworth if they tried it and were caught...I'd settle for a flash-bang grenade. Those babies are impressive!<BR/><BR/>Just another patriotic day in Red State America.<BR/><BR/>Happy 4th!<BR/><BR/>****************<BR/>As for Jesse Jackson, his era as Head Negro In Charge ended 15 years ago, his ability to shake down corporations ended 3-4 years ago. He is yesterday's news. Like Al Sharpton, Jackson is still desperately angling for power and relevance and concomittant moolah that the two unelected "Reverends" get less and less of these days. Jesse doesn't even get the attention his Pal Al does with his dog and pony shows whenever an "outrage" happens.Cedarfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602418702398818596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62332114298592966442007-07-04T10:22:00.000-05:002007-07-04T10:22:00.000-05:00Jesse Jackson, who means to inspire "massive resis...<I>Jesse Jackson, who means to inspire <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_resistance" REL="nofollow">"massive resistance"</A> to the Court's decision in Parents Involved in Community Schools v. Seattle School District.</I><BR/><BR/>Wow that's an awkward choice of words. And he clearly did it on purpose. Is he <I>trying</I> to shoot himself in the foot?Balfegorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08012196656096263507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67165732093941755342007-07-04T10:21:00.000-05:002007-07-04T10:21:00.000-05:00Just shows what an idiot Jackson is -as usual.The ...Just shows what an idiot Jackson is -as usual.<BR/><BR/>The Seattle case wasn't about "diversity" or "integration". The Seattle schools have never been segregated, and are already "diverse".<BR/><BR/>The Seattle school board simply decided that every school had to contain, IRC between 25% and 50% whites.<BR/><BR/>So kids ended up getting bused around solely on the basis of race, to achieve some arbitrary goal of racial balance. <BR/><BR/>But we all know why the MSM and Jackson are taking this course. Yap about the "Right-Wing" court and thereby make it easier to appoint a future liberal justice as "balance". Or to mobilize the left against some "right-wing extemist"rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26030472214169356662007-07-04T10:17:00.000-05:002007-07-04T10:17:00.000-05:00STAN: Uh, excuse me. Excuse me, can I have your at...<B>STAN: Uh, excuse me. Excuse me, can I have your attention please? What are we doing? [the crowd quiets down] It's been nine days! Doesn't it seem like we should accomplish something?<BR/><BR/>HIPPIE: We're using the power of rock and roll to change the world! Woo! [the crowd cheers]<BR/><BR/>(South Park, 2005)</B><BR/><BR/>You're set, Sarge. Nothing's really changed. Just ask <A HREF="http://opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110010291" REL="nofollow">Ted Nugent</A>.Tullyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03842067230152580405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66928707918197511072007-07-04T10:14:00.000-05:002007-07-04T10:14:00.000-05:00The SCOTUS decision is looking better every day.Gr...The SCOTUS decision is looking better every day.<BR/><BR/>Great decision in itself and now predictably ole mumble mouth is having a fit coming to terms with it.<BR/><BR/>Only thing better would be to have Pres. Romney replace JP Stevens with Michael Luttig and I'll start believing there's a God.JackDRipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14362920581900333503noreply@blogger.com