tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post3461386056731124925..comments2024-03-29T08:56:40.289-05:00Comments on Althouse: Jan Crawford interviews Justice Scalia at the Federalist Society annual dinner.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47826169952496251612010-11-23T11:09:29.126-06:002010-11-23T11:09:29.126-06:00Is this a Yahoo.com comment thread?Is this a Yahoo.com comment thread?Calebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17056314139651782511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64558478517612818022010-11-22T09:12:40.282-06:002010-11-22T09:12:40.282-06:00and in any case, it's "as smart as",...and in any case, it's "as smart as", not "smarter than"kathleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760546833628880462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66123097747545059502010-11-22T09:11:11.309-06:002010-11-22T09:11:11.309-06:00"I just don't see any reason to think tha..."I just don't see any reason to think that conservative law students who did worse as undergraduates are smarter than conservative law students who did better"<br /><br />Then you're not reading my comments. I explained this.kathleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760546833628880462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89251379655430887902010-11-22T07:49:14.774-06:002010-11-22T07:49:14.774-06:00Scalia is a man among boys and girls. His intellec...Scalia is a man among boys and girls. His intellect would be obvious to Helen Keller[an homage to non pc]. He is cocky, ala the great Ali. But what I always come away w/ when I see Scalia interviewed is his razor sharp wit. And, he understands, "brevity is the soul of wit."ndspinellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446291993043775612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46430663626331266912010-11-22T07:24:33.478-06:002010-11-22T07:24:33.478-06:00They don't get dumber, but during their last s...They don't get dumber, but during their last semester they are led into a secret chamber, a device is hooked to their skull, and all of their ethics are sucked out of them.<br /><br />Then to go to Wall Street.save_the_rustbelthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15292805042626368911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52015146634201552302010-11-22T07:16:19.185-06:002010-11-22T07:16:19.185-06:00A few more risky hunting trips with Trickshot Dick...A few more risky hunting trips with Trickshot Dicky Cheney and perhaps a stray pellet will deflate this gasbag.<br /><br />AS...a self created man in love with his creator.Opus One Mediahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04041788083619471630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43941781187307764372010-11-21T23:57:23.159-06:002010-11-21T23:57:23.159-06:00Scalia should drop his own prejudices and chose a ...Scalia should drop his own prejudices and chose a few "best and brightest" from alternatives to the Ivy Leagues and Sanford. He might find himself pleasantly impressed.Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70172900142425906242010-11-21T23:55:14.445-06:002010-11-21T23:55:14.445-06:00Scalia is a funny funny man.Scalia is a funny funny man.Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30670451030178890642010-11-21T21:59:20.251-06:002010-11-21T21:59:20.251-06:00Your argument might be meaningful if, say, 50% of ...<i><br />Your argument might be meaningful if, say, 50% of the student body at either HLS or YLS identified as conservative. But that's manifestly not the case--the number self-id'ed conservatives at either of those schools is more like 15%, and that's being generous. Why? Because it's easier to be mediocre but look brilliant on paper if you're a liberal, since most undergrad professors -- you know, the ones who GIVE THE GRADES -- are liberal. Liberals can major in being liberal and get A's for it, and these mediocrities who look brilliant on paper get into HLS and YLS. Whereas the conservatives who manage to excel in pre-law-type undergrad majors are just objectively brilliant, rather than merely appearing brilliant on paper. They take real classes and get A's in them.</i><br /><br />But almost every law school is majority liberal. And on the right, you're going to find a higher number of brilliant law students at HLS than at, say, OSU (though of course OSU has had some brilliant students, and Judge Sutton is in the very top tier of conservative jurists and will likely and deservedly end up on the Supreme Court).<br /><br />I just don't see any reason to think that conservative law students who did worse as undergraduates are smarter than conservative law students who did better. And many bright students choose to go to non-Ivy League law schools, but few non-bright students are afforded the choice.Prosecutorial Indiscretionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435612653700066939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58591408511265289912010-11-21T21:53:31.320-06:002010-11-21T21:53:31.320-06:00btw, a close relative who is in-house counsel hire...btw, a close relative who is in-house counsel hires law firm types. He dreads the prospect of working with YLS/HLS grads and avoids them at all costs. Their memos are wordy, over-long and useless.kathleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760546833628880462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36445821443240692142010-11-21T21:50:22.930-06:002010-11-21T21:50:22.930-06:00and don't forget the brilliant conservatives w...and don't forget the brilliant conservatives who unwittingly took undergraduate classes from politically intolerant professors and whose grades got docked because they didn't toe the party line. Do HLS and YLS overlook a couple of B's on the undergraduate transcript because the politics of the professor didn't jibe with the student? hardly.kathleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760546833628880462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76213158954725375552010-11-21T21:46:21.223-06:002010-11-21T21:46:21.223-06:00"And again, hate on the Ivies all you want, b..."And again, hate on the Ivies all you want, but Scalia, Roberts, Thomas, and Alito all went to Ivy League law schools, as did most of the appellate judges that represent the intellectual leaders of the right-wing bench."<br /><br />Your argument might be meaningful if, say, 50% of the student body at either HLS or YLS identified as conservative. But that's manifestly not the case--the number self-id'ed conservatives at either of those schools is more like 15%, and that's being generous. Why? Because it's easier to be mediocre but look brilliant on paper if you're a liberal, since most undergrad professors -- you know, the ones who GIVE THE GRADES -- are liberal. Liberals can major in being liberal and get A's for it, and these mediocrities who look brilliant on paper get into HLS and YLS. Whereas the conservatives who manage to excel in pre-law-type undergrad majors are just objectively brilliant, rather than merely appearing brilliant on paper. They take real classes and get A's in them.kathleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760546833628880462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41127950088714610772010-11-21T21:02:02.352-06:002010-11-21T21:02:02.352-06:00It's a shame to see someone as brilliant as Sc...<i> It's a shame to see someone as brilliant as Scalia say something so clueless. Perhaps at one time "the best minds" went to Harvard and Yale Law schools, but no longer. People who go to those law schools are mostly the same obsequious grinds who schmooze their way through a sociology/political science/history major by parrotting the politically correct BS that passes for scholarship amongst undergraduate professors, 95% of whom sooner chop off their right hand than vote Republican. Scalia fail.</i><br /><br />I'd be more convinced if the other law schools weren't full of obsequious grinds who simply didn't do as well in school and on the LSAT. Law school does not tend to attract brilliant nonconformist risk takers, because the payoffs for taking those risks are almost always much lower than the payoffs for taking risks in other sectors.<br /><br />And again, hate on the Ivies all you want, but Scalia, Roberts, Thomas, and Alito all went to Ivy League law schools, as did most of the appellate judges that represent the intellectual leaders of the right-wing bench. <br /><br />There is a whole lot to criticize about Harvard Law School. But it's not like the Touro grads as a class are all of a sudden better than the HLS kids. There are always going to be brilliant students at every law school, but there are a lot more brilliant students at the top law schools.<br /><br />And again, that's not to say they're better people or even better lawyers. Most HLS kids would get their asses handed to them if they stepped in front of a jury (hai 2 u Kiwi Camara) because the same relentless nerdiness that made them awesome students often makes them terrible at persuading 12 random Americans. But when it comes to the kind of rigorous research and reasoning that goes into appellate practice, then ceteris paribus you want the Harvard Law kid over the state law school kid.Prosecutorial Indiscretionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435612653700066939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63365028872910724342010-11-21T20:27:49.794-06:002010-11-21T20:27:49.794-06:00It's a shame to see someone as brilliant as Sc...It's a shame to see someone as brilliant as Scalia say something so clueless. Perhaps at one time "the best minds" went to Harvard and Yale Law schools, but no longer. People who go to those law schools are mostly the same obsequious grinds who schmooze their way through a sociology/political science/history major by parrotting the politically correct BS that passes for scholarship amongst undergraduate professors, 95% of whom sooner chop off their right hand than vote Republican. Scalia fail.kathleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760546833628880462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28995505733592414142010-11-21T19:40:10.408-06:002010-11-21T19:40:10.408-06:00On the subject of putting Supreme Court oral argum...<i>On the subject of putting Supreme Court oral arguments on video, Scalia said he disapproved. He thought it would mainly lead to out-of-context clips.</i><br /><br />Citizens Unite against Scalia preventing other justices from having their speech aired. <br /><br />Authoritarian a*$hole.Ritmo Re-Animatedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15912086218531198114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13614061652673708152010-11-21T19:34:50.043-06:002010-11-21T19:34:50.043-06:00"...it is a juvenile spectacle...."
lon..."...it is a juvenile spectacle...."<br /><br />long live king Anthony who serves at no one's pleasure but his own.Opus One Mediahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04041788083619471630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53455621728009424072010-11-21T19:31:42.345-06:002010-11-21T19:31:42.345-06:00Scalia is right that the later success rate for th...Scalia is right that the later success rate for the intelligent admittees comes from their innate intelligence rather than from their curriculum and teachers, although their surrounding students' level of intelligence contributes some. The error Scalia lets continue in his comments is the false assumption that the pool of intelligent applicants for certain schools is any greater than that for others schools with similar numbers of applicants. Not everybody applies to Harvard, Yale , Princeton etc. Many apply elsewhere. That is the basis for the high success rates from graduates of many more schools than the few famous ones.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88827882548525758662010-11-21T19:12:20.302-06:002010-11-21T19:12:20.302-06:00Scalia's definition of "best" is pro...Scalia's definition of "best" is probably defined by the context - best constitutional law clerks. The "best" schools get students with a particular talent profile and give them a particular skill set (and socializes them - gives them a particular set of prejudices.) They get selected at a very high rate to be law clerks and law professors. They get hired by big law firms. Not clear if the talent profile, the skill set, or the prejudices are the big attraction. <br /><br />I think the guy who wrote my will went to UVa.Bob_Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14013147654544140102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46641323336286458862010-11-21T19:09:43.158-06:002010-11-21T19:09:43.158-06:00"They might not learn anything while they’re ...<i>"They might not learn anything while they’re there [laughter], but they don’t get any dumber."</i><br /><br />I think his son Paul would probably teach him how fundamentally wrong he is here.<br /><br />The fact is -- a lot of people learn to be stupid.Benderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09322135500288738561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58905651814563574522010-11-21T18:56:01.905-06:002010-11-21T18:56:01.905-06:00Harvard: Impossible to gain acceptance into, impo...Harvard: Impossible to gain acceptance into, impossible to flunk out of.<br /><br />In other news, the murderer with the best name of all time, Lawrencia Bembenek, has died. She was outlived by the Lockerbie bomber!MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75331792119216534312010-11-21T18:42:43.177-06:002010-11-21T18:42:43.177-06:00Well it certainly was a juvenile display in 2010.
...Well it certainly was a juvenile display in 2010.<br /><br />wv kidgeoid<br />Huh?JALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15503869597362866878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29993220927485209312010-11-21T18:18:50.669-06:002010-11-21T18:18:50.669-06:00Penny, you are welcome to have your own definition...Penny, you are welcome to have your own definitions for things so long as you recognize that nobody is required to use your definitions. <br /><br />Besides, I'm willing to bet you understand what I was saying even if you define some of those words differently than I do.tim maguirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717622436074043099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19215483187041654542010-11-21T18:12:14.216-06:002010-11-21T18:12:14.216-06:00State of the Union as a 'juvenile display.&quo...State of the Union as a 'juvenile display."<br /><br />That's the best Scalia line yet.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17424384180201600935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42200351892016806472010-11-21T17:21:39.846-06:002010-11-21T17:21:39.846-06:00Wait a minute! Joan Crawford interviews Justice Sc...Wait a minute! Joan Crawford interviews Justice Scalia!<br /><br />If Simon was here his head would explode. Just sayn.Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52736374259403475142010-11-21T17:16:06.890-06:002010-11-21T17:16:06.890-06:00"He actually did specifically say that those ..."He actually did specifically say that those best minds don't get dumber."<br /><br />It's possible that there are law schools that work a greater improvement on the minds they get, but it's hard to figure out who those folks are. At least you can assume that the people who look best on paper will get their first choice, and if people choose based on the rankings, then you know you're getting something pretty good. The school does not actually need to do anything for that to happen (other than not make them worse, which I think actually is possible).Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.com