tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post3395772695267258247..comments2024-03-18T23:08:20.960-05:00Comments on Althouse: Feminist on a panel that chooses winners of the Man Booker International prize withdraws when the panel picks Philip Roth.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20228773830088558282011-05-20T01:13:50.004-05:002011-05-20T01:13:50.004-05:00Henry said...
> Roth, Roth, Roth... Didn't ...Henry said...<br />> Roth, Roth, Roth... Didn't he write Goodbye Columbus? <br /><br />The best thing about Goodbye Columbus was it led to The Association's fantastic, Jim Yester penned theme song for the movie.Popvillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02299807620623256584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29894070437083504682011-05-19T11:27:38.385-05:002011-05-19T11:27:38.385-05:00Could be worse. Reading Joyce Carol Oates' va...Could be worse. Reading Joyce Carol Oates' variations on "stone losers Eff it up, again" is like having a dry cleaner's plastic bag pulled over your head. The oxygen runs out extremely quickly.<br /><br />WV: cunonse. ain't touching that one.JorgXMcKiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509568525555189690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76784820711252974962011-05-19T09:59:21.164-05:002011-05-19T09:59:21.164-05:00Read Roth's "The Counterlife"
Read ...Read Roth's "The Counterlife"<br /><br />Read Updike's "The Coup"<br /><br />and Saul Bellow, "Mr. Sammler's Planet"<br /><br />They were at the top of their game, very imaginative, interesting moving funny work.Dex Quirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06460141401009787503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67395561107793659922011-05-19T09:43:57.590-05:002011-05-19T09:43:57.590-05:00"...Of course every time Maya Angelou writes ..."...Of course every time Maya Angelou writes a new laundry regime update for her domestic staff, it's "Pulitzer, get out of the way!!!!"..."<br /><br />I wish I had thought that! <br /><br />... well said, LincolntfSteve Rosenbachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402392123559559966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7774392868281163072011-05-19T09:41:38.657-05:002011-05-19T09:41:38.657-05:00I couldn't get through more than a few dozen p...I couldn't get through more than a few dozen pages of Portnoy's Complaint, but that was a few decades ago. <br /><br />When I recently read The Plot Against America, I thought it was a first-rate piece of fiction. I found myself feeling deeply upset and terrified at points in the book, forgetting for the moment that I absolutely knew that it was an alternate history of events of over 70 years ago. To have that effect on me, I judged Roth's writing to be very good indeed.Steve Rosenbachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402392123559559966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78274471955860745772011-05-19T08:44:26.683-05:002011-05-19T08:44:26.683-05:00"tim maguire said...
I tried to read Portnoy...<i>"tim maguire said... <br />I tried to read Portnoy's Complaint once. Utter dreck. I'd swear he was sitting at his typewriter with a copy of the DSM-whichever and went down the list, making a chapter for each symptom."</i><br /><br />So what you're saying is that he'd make a great encyclopedist? <br /><br />;)Tiborehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07360541843865827271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29690975966624815312011-05-19T08:33:02.807-05:002011-05-19T08:33:02.807-05:00Sit on my face and tell me that you love me
I'...Sit on my face and tell me that you love me<br />I'll sit on your face and tell you I love you too<br />I love to hear you oralize<br />When I'm between your thighs<br />You blow me away<br /><br />Sit on my face and let my lips embrace you<br />I'll sit on your face and then I'll love you truly<br />Life can be fine if we both sixty nine<br />If we sit on our faces in all sorts of places<br />And play till we're blown away<br /><br />(Monty Python)Greg Toombshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093911019916154110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14448001338791817212011-05-19T08:27:07.845-05:002011-05-19T08:27:07.845-05:00"...in 20 years' time will anyone read hi..."...in 20 years' time will anyone read him?"<br /><br />Heh. I think I wondered that 30 years ago. He seems to have stood the test so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30788789053787211282011-05-19T08:25:03.201-05:002011-05-19T08:25:03.201-05:00"Choses"?"Choses"?Charlie Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586506407851173416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19641129714923783952011-05-19T08:11:42.620-05:002011-05-19T08:11:42.620-05:00Did she really say "core of their beings"...Did she really say "core of their beings"? Core of their beings!? What is this, 1973?Ross MacLochnesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13343081833071175741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31826031633323830672011-05-19T05:16:22.740-05:002011-05-19T05:16:22.740-05:00"Feminist on a panel that chooses winners of ..."Feminist on a panel that chooses winners of the Man Booker International prize withdraws when the panel picks Philip Roth."<br /><br />Irony alert - self-centeredness is boring.<br /><br />wv - gases<br /><br />You have 3 gases to spot the feministToad Trendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03113877205525601966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58966013046406441632011-05-19T00:16:22.401-05:002011-05-19T00:16:22.401-05:00In one of his books, Roth addressed the problem of...In one of his books, Roth addressed the problem of people not wishing to shake his hands. He said that when he visits friends' homes, he goes to their bathroom and leaves deposits of fresh sperm on their soap bars. That'll serve the bastards....Roth is very funny and inventive. Some of his conceits are as brilliant and insightful as they are self centered and overly elaborate.....He is the only novelist I still read. His later books examine what aging is all about. Front line dispatches. I read him the way soldiers on troop ships overseas used to read Hemingway. There are useful lessons to be learned.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72300339665845382382011-05-18T23:30:55.117-05:002011-05-18T23:30:55.117-05:00Read Goodbye Columbus for freshman English. I'...Read <i>Goodbye Columbus</i> for freshman English. I'm sure it is my lack but I found the novel physically repulsive. Seriously, reading it was like spending time in Satre's <i>No Exit</i>. Then for book club decades later I read <i>The Plot Against America</i> and liked it ok. I'm tempted to say that as a Southern woman Roth's novels are totally alien and unpalatable. But how can that be? I worship at Naipaul's feet and his characters are even further removed from my experience.<br /><br />I suspect Fowles <i>The Magus</i> would have been pulped decades ago if women had been on any judging panels. As it is, he made at least a couple of the 20th Century lists of best books.<br /><br />BTW, I've read a few Booker Prize winners over the years, but most of the time I don't recongnize any names on the short list. How about the rest of you?Christyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12623422545436294378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23166595108214767452011-05-18T23:00:23.277-05:002011-05-18T23:00:23.277-05:00I think most of our verse translations of foreign-...I think most of our verse translations of foreign-language poetry are garbage. There are, of course, tons of them being produced all the time (Aeneids from Fagles, Ahls, that woman on Yale University Press in just the last few years). There's far too much, all of it making special pleas on behalf of the respective translator's exclusive claim to establish the 'vigor' of the original. Which our monolingual 'multicultural' society would know so much about . . . <br /><br /> Most of the "great" novels of the past 300 years could never usurp the aesthetic supremacy of an Aeneid or a Divine Comedy. Even the strongest contenders (say, "War and Peace") only equivocally so.<br /><br /> And most of the great novelists in living memory-- say, Roth, Bellow, Updike, Mailer in the States, or Murdoch, Byatt, or such in the UK-- can hardly make a sustained case to rival the likes of Austen, Melville, G. Eliot or H. James.<br /><br /> For whatever combination of factors, the recent past (several decades) has seen a triumph of process over the honing of the individual, visionary work. Writing in general is more journalistic or offhand. A Roth or a Murdoch puts you through a lot of familiar paces, yes, but that's partly because they are brilliantly in tune with public anxieties and so what they are compulsively acting out is what we are compulsively acting out.<br /><br /> Which, not so surprisingly, largely amounts to fucked-up marriages and constant desperate attempts to reinvent ourselves.<br /><br /> Also: Roth, Bellow, Murdoch, Muriel Spark, Fay Weldon are all screamingly, 'incorrectly' funny and full of violent, murderous mayhem of a highly irrational quality. Again, it suits our Age.Luciushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03938166025093103574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80332349742030795702011-05-18T21:34:14.803-05:002011-05-18T21:34:14.803-05:00BTW: the international prize was devised to allow ...BTW: the international prize was devised to allow amerericans to compete without threatening the rest of anglosaxons. A previous judge of the prize said that their McEwan , a great writter btw,Coetzeetc would not be able to compete with Roth, De Lilio , Franzen...Jose_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09719969512996039279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31723135260160688842011-05-18T21:30:58.866-05:002011-05-18T21:30:58.866-05:00The Three muskeeter trilogy is even better than M...The Three muskeeter trilogy is even better than Montechristo<br />We Were heroes is based on portnoy´s also a good readJose_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09719969512996039279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30407689552698243892011-05-18T21:30:50.144-05:002011-05-18T21:30:50.144-05:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJcmqw13pCU&pla...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJcmqw13pCU&playnext=1&list=PLE05370097AB027E0drudge_illiteratihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14456092229135261893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8931658479107245032011-05-18T21:28:10.367-05:002011-05-18T21:28:10.367-05:00Portnoy ´s complaint. Proffesor of desire. Human b...Portnoy ´s complaint. Proffesor of desire. Human beastJose_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09719969512996039279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49080485014154111642011-05-18T21:15:39.916-05:002011-05-18T21:15:39.916-05:00Read Fagle's translations of Homer and you don...Read Fagle's translations of Homer and you don't need McCarthy either.<br /><br />One thing I really like about Updike is his writing on art. He has a great eye and an unique view. His short stories are suitably well regarded, I suppose. McCarthy is very good, but after reading two of his novels I've never been tempted to open another one. Frankly, novels are annoying. History is much more interesting.<br /><br />The problem with such things as Pulitzers and Man Bookers is that they demand new work.<br /><br />This is a golden age of translation. The best poetry written today is translation: Robert Pinsky's translation of Dante; Seamus Heaney's translation of Beowulf. But no one cares. In the literary arena the modern novel must be stuffed with straw and propped up for yet another award.Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480329783749187372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51181937831082049672011-05-18T21:00:07.443-05:002011-05-18T21:00:07.443-05:00So few women give a decent blow job.
Shouting Tho...<i>So few women give a decent blow job.<br /><br />Shouting Thomas, I don't understand. What's your basis for comparison?</i><br /><br />This is dangerously close to turning into a DSK thread.Chip S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13210586187250159751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25326260457066696902011-05-18T20:07:36.573-05:002011-05-18T20:07:36.573-05:00mcullough, thanks for your comment.
Updike was on...mcullough, thanks for your comment.<br /><br />Updike was on my very long list of important authors I have never read but feel I ought to have.<br /><br />Perhaps I can scratch him off? Will the audio book of The Witches of Eastwick suffice?<br /><br />I've already moved McCarthy to my read-everything-this-person-writes-list.erictrimmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03232618429644841580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31529038829977898232011-05-18T20:03:22.281-05:002011-05-18T20:03:22.281-05:00So few women give a decent blow job.
Shouting Tho...<i>So few women give a decent blow job.</i><br /><br />Shouting Thomas, I don't understand. What's your basis for comparison?RuyDiazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13245939178748322897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45019153034066222222011-05-18T19:59:19.138-05:002011-05-18T19:59:19.138-05:00I read Portnoy's Complaint on a friends recomm...I read Portnoy's Complaint on a friends recommendation and loved it. Very funny. Went on to read The Human Stain and got halfway through American Pastoral before deciding to give up on Roth for good, or at least for a while. It's been over a decade since I've read anything by him.<br /><br />Maybe someday, when I'm much older, I will be in the mood to read a book about a sad man who can't get erections and has lots of regrets.<br /><br />So did Roth pay Callil to make a fuss? Now I'm so curious about this suffocating novel of Roth's that I just might buy a copy...erictrimmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03232618429644841580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53596561846669400812011-05-18T19:56:12.962-05:002011-05-18T19:56:12.962-05:00"Feminist on a panel that choses"
Spel..."Feminist on a panel that choses"<br /><br /> Spelling: Choses?vzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10932564603160392752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33397378161079582472011-05-18T19:54:43.463-05:002011-05-18T19:54:43.463-05:00Sit on my face and tell me that you love me<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKeQpeDkoGc" rel="nofollow">Sit on my face and tell me that you love me</a>Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480329783749187372noreply@blogger.com