tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post302690298936072832..comments2024-03-28T05:57:30.673-05:00Comments on Althouse: Blogging this morning is not as light as it looks. Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger143125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5990848879204447142017-06-09T17:15:32.415-05:002017-06-09T17:15:32.415-05:00Birkel: "You cannot make words mean whatever ...Birkel: "You cannot make words mean whatever you wish them to mean."<br /><br />Not unless you wish really really hard!Dragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079148433908004715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14972752157672409002017-06-09T16:33:26.639-05:002017-06-09T16:33:26.639-05:00@ Snark
It's fine with me if you want to say,...@ Snark<br /><br />It's fine with me if you want to say, directly, that you prefer to believe the recollections of one party to a conversation over the other. But you said that "<i>(h)e was the only person to be in a position to judge these things...</i>" and that was false.<br /><br />Think of it this way: I'm trying to help you avoid saying things that are demonstrably false. There were two people in the room.<br /><br />You cannot make words mean whatever you wish them to mean.Birkelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14205292523499913507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35449977464927827132017-06-09T15:49:12.475-05:002017-06-09T15:49:12.475-05:00^ Maybe leave the analysis to people capable of an...^ Maybe leave the analysis to people capable of and interested in understanding the point as made and not the one you want to makeSnarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17307871260632554312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15484833324228921752017-06-09T15:48:50.062-05:002017-06-09T15:48:50.062-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Snarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17307871260632554312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62920107073565911802017-06-09T15:46:39.589-05:002017-06-09T15:46:39.589-05:00@ Snark
So you would prefer to trust the word of ...@ Snark<br /><br />So you would prefer to trust the word of the man who is observing behavior, with all the attendant problems involved in interpersonal communication, over the person who said words (assuming <i>arguendo</i> that those things are accurately reflected) that have specific meanings? It's almost like you only care about who, whom.<br /><br />But still your above statement cannot be resurrected. There were two men in that conversation, not one. You were wrong and it diminishes your point by making your partisanship obvious. <br /><br />Grab your carry on.Birkelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14205292523499913507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1453253689973438862017-06-09T15:35:20.081-05:002017-06-09T15:35:20.081-05:00Seems a bit like the candy Crowley situation to me...Seems a bit like the candy Crowley situation to me--it's not an apt quote (in fact, it's the exact opposite since Trump was trying to save Flynn), but one came up with it while the other obviously had it prepared. <br /><br />That's called coordination.tim maguirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717622436074043099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71706967021210276332017-06-09T15:25:12.212-05:002017-06-09T15:25:12.212-05:00"I'll say this for Inga, she doesn't ..."I'll say this for Inga, she doesn't need your help."<br /><br />Perhaps not, but don't be so sure. People get weary and wander off.<br /><br />"Did I miss your revolting against Colbert's "cockholster" remark? Signs point to no."<br /><br />Colbert's remark was crude and stupid, but its biggest sin was in not even being funny. I thought the fact that he made it was an example of liberals losing perspective.<br /><br />TL,DR; You assume a lot.Snarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17307871260632554312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79370477892400251902017-06-09T15:24:26.790-05:002017-06-09T15:24:26.790-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Snarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17307871260632554312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5114725213759954302017-06-09T15:16:20.214-05:002017-06-09T15:16:20.214-05:00Snark,
A fig for your opinion.
I'll say t...Snark, <br /><br />A fig for your opinion. <br /><br />I'll say this for Inga, she doesn't need your help. Also I'm sure she's the jolly type who believe that spitting is quitting.<br /><br />Did I miss your revolting against Colbert's "cockholster" remark? Signs point to no.<br /><br />TL,DR: Delete your account.Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36383942906902280582017-06-09T15:13:35.278-05:002017-06-09T15:13:35.278-05:00So Comey decided that he was reading Trump's m...So Comey decided that he was reading Trump's mind?<br /><br />Trump didn't *explicitly* tell Comey to stop investigating, but Comey *thought* that's what Trump meant?<br /><br />All this consternation over THAT?<br /><br />gawdamighty ...<br />Pianomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10321581049879290921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62471362519557549742017-06-09T15:08:46.167-05:002017-06-09T15:08:46.167-05:00You know, there's a lot of mocking here about ...You know, there's a lot of mocking here about feminist themes when they come up for discussion. But Inga is often attacked in a very gendered way. Unless she herself introduced it, a little more self awareness, and in this case a lot less crudeness, would go a long way.Snarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17307871260632554312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53664563781057886602017-06-09T15:01:59.178-05:002017-06-09T15:01:59.178-05:00Fen said...
I find it hysterical that Inga keeps g...Fen said...<br />I find it hysterical that Inga keeps going back to the same sources that keep breaking their promise not to do that thing in her mouth.<br /><br />Maybe she likes the taste. Or it's good for her complexion.Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37858277742298161482017-06-09T14:56:39.095-05:002017-06-09T14:56:39.095-05:00"And hey, if you consume tons of media every ..."And hey, if you consume tons of media every day but are missing critical bits of information, it's likely you are reading the same newspaper 5 times a day."<br /><br />You've missed the point. I have no reason to believe I've missed a critical point of information, so I just find it interesting that what I'm consuming and the collective you are consuming focus on sometimes very different things. A "key charge was that Trump lied about being the target of a criminal investigation" might have been a critical point on your preferred news sources, but it doesn't even ring a bell with me, let alone rise to the level of a "key charge". I'm wondering if the commenter meant the suggestion that Trump was lying about Comey telling him he wasn't under investigation as noted in the firing letter? Because that's not the same thing. That I am of course aware of. On my news sources you had a couple talking heads saying that they didn't think Comey would have told him one way or another, and they were wrong, but they're just talking heads filling hours speculating and any astute watcher knows that. Eventually there was a late erroneous anonymous leak that said that Comey would contradict Trump on the point, which was also wrong in essence, but it didn't even stand for long enough to become a "key charge". I guess had you asked me, based on the reporting on CNN I would have anticipated that Comey would contradict Trump, and I would have been wrong along with them, but it wasn't "key" to anything as I understood it.Snarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17307871260632554312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32862623621993099292017-06-09T14:19:41.453-05:002017-06-09T14:19:41.453-05:00Lefties, the Comey Fizzle is like a bad joke - if ...Lefties, the Comey Fizzle is like a bad joke - if you have to explain it, you've already lost the room.<br /><br />Only reason I'm still in the joint is to see what loony conspiracy theory you'll run after next.<br /><br />Did you know that Trump is just a front? He's an android. Ivanka is the acting president, along with The Council sending back directives from <br />3045.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8815451044529615642017-06-09T14:16:16.652-05:002017-06-09T14:16:16.652-05:00Epstein and Yoo (mp3), who are borderline never-Tr...<a href="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/d11k1eidkpp6ab.cloudfront.net/2017/06/Law-Talk-98a.mp3" rel="nofollow">Epstein and Yoo</a> (mp3), who are borderline never-Trumpers, say it's Comey who's guilty of obstruction of justice, looking at the law.rhhardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06901742898653890646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10510390827327396682017-06-09T13:52:57.995-05:002017-06-09T13:52:57.995-05:00MadisonMan said...
I've been told many times ...MadisonMan said...<br /><br /><i>I've been told many times by coastie friends that there is no such thing as a seagull. They are simply gulls.</i><br /><br />I guess your coastie friends are provincial. In New Jersey they were seagulls.Ignorance is Blisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02338942311894099159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79211598505045713322017-06-09T13:51:06.780-05:002017-06-09T13:51:06.780-05:00roesch/voltaire said...
AA what try out did Trump...roesch/voltaire said...<br /><br /><i>AA what try out did Trump give Comey?</i><br /><br />He repeatedly tried to get Comey to go public with the truthful statement that Trump was not under investigation. The would have in no way interfered with or obstructed any investigation or prosecution. There was no legal reason for Comey not to make that statement.<br /><br />Trump tried him out. Comey failed.Ignorance is Blisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02338942311894099159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13686982868330564662017-06-09T13:49:44.781-05:002017-06-09T13:49:44.781-05:00Did Midwesterners not understand Comey's seagu...<i>Did Midwesterners not understand Comey's seagull metaphor<br /><br /></i>I've been told many times by coastie friends that there is no such thing as a seagull. They are simply gulls.MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25403907971249934842017-06-09T13:46:08.137-05:002017-06-09T13:46:08.137-05:00Birkel said...
I believe he was supposed to inves...Birkel said...<br /><br /><i>I believe he was supposed to investigate and prosecute illegal leaking of classified information to the press. Trump appears to have judged Comey was either incapable or unwilling to pursue that perfectly acceptable and legal strategy.</i><br /><br />Maybe Comey didn't own a mirror...Ignorance is Blisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02338942311894099159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10933532221966649442017-06-09T13:39:57.402-05:002017-06-09T13:39:57.402-05:00Let me maybe clarify as to Youngstown. Prong 3 sta...Let me maybe clarify as to Youngstown. Prong 3 starts with "When the President takes measures incompatible with the expressed or implied will of Congress, his power is at its lowest ebb, for then he can rely only upon his own constitutional powers minus any constitutional powers of Congress over the matter.". Why would Congress have the power to limit the President's investigatoty and prosecutorial discretion? What Article I Constitutional power grant could or would they provide? Making this even more questionable from a statutory point of view, it is pretty clear that the Russian investigation of Flynn was counter-intelligence, and not criminal in nature. This implicates his Article II section 1, Clause 8 (oath to protect the Constitution) and Section 2 Clause 1 (Commander in Chief) powers, in addition to his Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 (first sentence) Executive power. I would argue that the above Article II Presidential powers create a strong presumption that any statutory limitations to the required discretion by the President would constitute Congressional overreach. Bruce Haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10815293023158025662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86060852648798056272017-06-09T13:32:03.939-05:002017-06-09T13:32:03.939-05:00I think Billy Jeff was there to tell her boss that...<i> I think Billy Jeff was there to tell her boss that his wife was not quitting the race for any reason, and for him to stick that in his pipe and smoke it. </i><br /><br />That could’ve been accomplished with a phone call. But as we have learned ALL phone calls are subject to being intercepted. So they had to meet in person. My guess is that something physical had to change hands. The debate questions?gracklehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138997480493469444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32488865028733612212017-06-09T13:30:11.966-05:002017-06-09T13:30:11.966-05:00"You mean the only person except for the othe..."You mean the only person except for the other person in the room, right? So by only you mean not at all the only?<br /><br />Words, man! Why can't they mean what I want them to mean, nothing more and nothing less?"<br /><br />The OP's point was specifically about "body language and facial expressions". You'll pardon me not giving a great deal of weight to Trump somehow observing his own body language and facial expressions. That kind of contortion would need Althouse. Ha ha!Snarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17307871260632554312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57520848888050966112017-06-09T13:29:26.555-05:002017-06-09T13:29:26.555-05:00"I regard the Russia stuff as mumble mumble s..."I regard the Russia stuff as mumble mumble something mumble impeachment"<br /><br />Russia Hacked Election, the Cliff Notes version.<br /><br />And hey, if you consume tons of media every day but are missing critical bits of information, it's likely you are reading the same newspaper 5 times a day.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27642887255342787382017-06-09T13:26:47.538-05:002017-06-09T13:26:47.538-05:00One way you can tell it wasn't a directive is ...One way you can tell it wasn't a directive is that they had three more noted conversations and trump never asked about Flynn again. and nor did he press Comey or anyone else about it after the fact. As Comey himself said, he viewed the Flynn case separate from the Russia case and he next time trump talks to him he is instead addressing the cloud over him because of the Russian probe. When Comey says the best way to remove the cloud is to complete the investigation trump AGREES. So this was simply trump BITCHING to Comey about the case itself. <br />The nine of contention that ultimately caused trump to fire him, I believe is that he wanted Comey to let public k or he wasn't uunder investigation. Which is not exactly obstruction. Rather it's asking for information be put out that shows you are innocent. From trumps perspective it's not unreasonable to want that. Further Comey admitted he blew trump off. He said he'd look into it but he admitted that he just told trump that to get him off his back. When trump follows up again, Comey very dismissively says to take it up with the AG. Which I viewed as him essentially telling trump to go talk to management and don't bother him about it. Which I'm sure trump took very personally. <br />Comey was actually very passive aggressive through all of this jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44620101293185414002017-06-09T13:24:16.645-05:002017-06-09T13:24:16.645-05:00Trump should be impeached because he's clumsy ...Trump should be impeached because he's clumsy and he beat Hillary. <br /><br />Criminal.Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.com