tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2830547548149308264..comments2024-03-19T00:05:22.263-05:00Comments on Althouse: "This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger155125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3843194421348249392012-04-05T02:59:53.757-05:002012-04-05T02:59:53.757-05:00Overheard:
"Hey, that bago is a funny guy.&qu...Overheard:<br />"Hey, that bago is a funny guy."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42309035365025580122012-04-04T17:32:47.754-05:002012-04-04T17:32:47.754-05:00"…Althouse shouldn't be throwing rocks…&q...<i>"…Althouse shouldn't be throwing rocks…"</i><br /><br />"Shut up", he explained.Paco Wovéhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00053886112561036768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79297018543663974592012-04-04T14:15:43.863-05:002012-04-04T14:15:43.863-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11016802159573871360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3285999971964294292012-04-04T14:13:42.689-05:002012-04-04T14:13:42.689-05:00Not the first time a story was written to fit the ...Not the first time a story was written to fit the narrative being peddled. And it won't be the last.<br /><br />The MSM is now the marketing arm of the democrat/progressive apparatchik. Simple.Toad Trendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03113877205525601966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84446178429327786022012-04-04T12:23:49.968-05:002012-04-04T12:23:49.968-05:00Jay...I am relieved to hear that the Autopsy Repor...Jay...I am relieved to hear that the Autopsy Report is NOT being kept secret. It is merely under seal and will not be made public.<br /><br />I take it that means since it is not secret from the guys being investigated for starting the cover-up (and who can release it if the chose to do so,) then from your point of view it is not being kept secret at all.<br /><br />Higher reasoning like that is The Onion grade.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60020581131926968012012-04-04T11:29:11.927-05:002012-04-04T11:29:11.927-05:00traditionalguy said...
Has anyone seen the autopsy...<i>traditionalguy said...<br />Has anyone seen the autopsy report on the muzzle blast pattern and angle of the 9mm slug that took Trayvon's life. That will go a long way to prove which man was on top and which man was on the bottom doing a wrestling hold down of the other man.<br /><br />Why is it being kept a secret?<br /><br /></i><br /><br />Captain Ignorant:<br /><br />It isn't being "kept secret"<br /><br />It is standard practice not to release autopsy reports for active investigations.<br /><br />Note:<br /><br /><i>The Volusia County Medical Examiner's office, the body that "independently, objectively and scientifically determines the cause and manner of death under certain circumstances," handled the autopsy. <br /><br />For now, that report remains under seal, spokesman Dave Byron told The Times. It has been forwarded to the Seminole County branch of the Florida state attorney's office and won't be made public while the investigation is pending<br /></i><br /><br />Carry on now.Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79785769745229269632012-04-04T10:33:11.945-05:002012-04-04T10:33:11.945-05:00I hope he does sue. Those depositions will be inte...I hope he does sue. Those depositions will be interesting!PatCAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08920623662477828662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84407330089736872012012-04-04T10:18:45.433-05:002012-04-04T10:18:45.433-05:00@bagoh20,
That wasn't me, I was quoting, but ...@bagoh20,<br /><br />That wasn't me, I was quoting, but I listened to the tape numerous times and it is clear that the story about the audience's "racism" is as bogus as the claim that the 911 recording shows Zimmerman was racially profiling Martin.<br /><br />Why don't you try going back to the Shirley Sherrod tape, watch the crucial part several times very carefully, and see if you still think you hear what you (and Breitbart et al) thought they heard.<br /><br />I personally do not think that Breitbart was lying. I suspect his ears deceived him and he heard what he wanted to hear rather than what was actually there.<br /><br />But the recording is what it is. The "Zimmerman's a racist crowd" and the "NAACP audience listening to Shirley Sherrod is racist" are peas from the same pod.nobodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09629547759619038179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58960910194787368852012-04-04T10:06:16.951-05:002012-04-04T10:06:16.951-05:00"That will go a long way to prove which man w...<i>"That will go a long way to prove which man was on top and which man was on the bottom "</i><br /><br />I doubt it. The position of the gun could be identical with either man on top. Unless it indicates that Martin's hands were up in a defensive posture (powder on his palms).bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27133590557087855592012-04-04T10:01:32.476-05:002012-04-04T10:01:32.476-05:00Has anyone seen the autopsy report on the muzzle b...Has anyone seen the autopsy report on the muzzle blast pattern and angle of the 9mm slug that took Trayvon's life. That will go a long way to prove which man was on top and which man was on the bottom doing a wrestling hold down of the other man.<br /><br />Why is it being kept a secret?<br /><br /> Does the Florida Stand Your Ground Statute also require that the DA and Coronor withhold the evidence upon which they based a probable cause decision before charging a shooter who has made the claim that he killed because he was in fear of losing his life?<br /><br />One hopes that means the investigation has been reopened and we will see a resolution and not a cover up.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57525972804258361092012-04-04T09:59:58.567-05:002012-04-04T09:59:58.567-05:00nobody,
You simply picked phrases where she was c...nobody,<br /><br />You simply picked phrases where she was clearly making an appeal to soberness. Sure, they responded correctly as they did in the other parts where they showed their racism. People are like that. They don't just spew constant racism at every opportunity. Racism is not embodied in caricatures, but real people.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45532344608479663782012-04-04T09:15:16.236-05:002012-04-04T09:15:16.236-05:00nobody said...
"Let's look at the video. ...<i>nobody said...<br />"Let's look at the video. The key section starts around 16 minutes in. I'll quote the speech and describe the reactions from the audience, to the extent I can discern them<br /></i><br /><br />That is some funny stuff there, clown.<br /><br />To the extent you can "discern them" has no basis in reality.<br /><br />But you carry on.Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72802361896701319002012-04-04T09:08:17.935-05:002012-04-04T09:08:17.935-05:00"So, let's review the Breitbart gang'..."So, let's review the Breitbart gang's allegations:<br /><br />"<i>When … she expresses a discriminatory attitude towards white people, the audience responds with applause. <b>False.</b><br /><br />"The NAACP … is cheering on a person describing a white person as the other. <b>False.</b><br /><br />"The NAACP audience seemed to have approved of her actions when she talked about not helping the white farmer. <b>False.</b><br /><br />"They weren't cheering redemption; they were cheering discrimination. <b>False.</b><br /><br />"As Ms. Sherrod recounted the first part of her parable, how she declined to do everything she could for the farmer because of his race, the audience responded in approval. <b>False.</b></i><br /><br />"First Breitbart and his acolytes falsely accused Sherrod of discriminating against whites as a federal employee, despite having no evidence for this charge in the original video excerpt. Strike one.<br /><br />"Then they misrepresented Sherrod's story as an embrace of racism, when in fact she was repudiating racism. They later pleaded ignorance of this fact because they didn't have the full video. Strike two.<br /><br />"Now, with the full video in hand and posted on their Web site, they're lying about the reaction of the NAACP audience."nobodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09629547759619038179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77971695739837289662012-04-04T09:04:09.869-05:002012-04-04T09:04:09.869-05:00"Let's look at the video. The key section..."Let's look at the video. The key section starts around 16 minutes in. I'll quote the speech and describe the reactions from the audience, to the extent I can discern them. You can check my version by listening to the audio as you follow along. Here's Sherrod:<br /><br />"<i>When I made that commitment, I was making that commitment to black people, and to black people only. <b>[Pause. Silence.]</b> But, you know, God will show you things, and He'll put things in your path so that—that you realize that the struggle <b>[Audience: Alright]</b> is really about poor people. <b>[Audience: Alright, alright.]</b></i><br /><br />"Racial appeal met with silence; non-racial appeal met with approval. Sherrod's next words:<br /><br />"<i>You know, the first time I was faced with having to help a white farmer save his farm, he—he took a long time talking, but he was trying to show me he was superior to me. <b>[Audience: Alright. Murmurs.]</b> I know what he was doing. [Audience: Alright.] But he had come to me for help. <b>[Audience: Amen.]</b> What he didn't know, while he was taking all that time trying to show me he was superior to me, was I was trying to decide just how much help I was going to give him. <b>[Laughter.]</b></i><br /><br />"The audience seems sympathetic to Sherrod's resentment of the farmer's arrogance, as she perceived it. How should we interpret the laughter? Is it laughter at her power to withhold help from a white man? Or is it laughter at her power to withhold help from a guy with an attitude? The evidence so far suggests the latter: The audience has embraced an appeal for "poor people," shunned an appeal for "black people only," and given Sherrod her only Amen when she noted that despite the farmer's attitude, "he had come to me for help." But let's keep listening.<br /><br />"<i>I was struggling with the fact that so many black people have lost their farmland, and here I was faced with having to help a white person save their land. <b>[Audience: Mm-hm.]</b> So, I didn't give him the full force of what I could do. <b>[Sherrod smiles and pauses. There's a single staccato noise somewhere in the room. No words, no laughter.]</b> I did enough so that when he—I assumed the Department of Agriculture had sent him to me, either that or the Georgia Department of Agriculture. And he needed to go back and report that I did try to help him. <b>[Pause. Silence.]</b></i><br /><br />"This time, Sherrod has mentioned only the farmer's race, not his attitude. She delivers the crucial line—"So, I didn't give him the full force of what I could do"—with a smile and a wry tone that invites any racist to laugh or blurt out approval. But she gets nothing. I had to listen to this clip more than a dozen times before I realized that the "applause" Breitbart describes could only be the staccato noise. To interpret this as applause, you would have to believe that a single person, representing an otherwise silent audience, suddenly decided to change the congregation's language of affirmation from call-and-response to clapping—and just as suddenly, after a single stroke, decided to stop.<br /><br />"As Sherrod renounces her old attitude, the audience comes alive:<br /><br /><i>Well, working with him made me see <b>[Audience: Mm-hm]</b> that it's really about those who have versus those who don't <b>[Audience: That's right, that's right]</b>, you know. And they could be black, and they could be white; they could be Hispanic. And it made me realize then that I needed to work to help poor people—those who don't have access <b>[Audience: Mm-hm]</b> the way others have <b>[Audience: Mm-hm]</b>.</i>"<br /><br />http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2010/07/amen_canard.single.htmlnobodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09629547759619038179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22569613402265868142012-04-04T09:03:38.106-05:002012-04-04T09:03:38.106-05:00Folks. Give Freder a bit more credit. His initia...Folks. Give Freder a bit more credit. His initial comment is FAR more nuanced than it appears to be. His initial post indicated that AA repeated a story that is not true. Ergo things AA reports (including this story about NBC) are not true. But not always not true. Freder made a point of noting that the Bin Laden story was posted less than a month (29 days) ago. Subtract 10, the base of our numbering system, and you get 19! So with deference to Louis Farrakhan, we may conclude that the subject of every 19th post on Althouse is false. Freder you magnificent bastard, I read your book!CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78078282609521921452012-04-04T08:23:20.893-05:002012-04-04T08:23:20.893-05:00Titus is a sad, angry little man who devotes his l...Titus is a sad, angry little man who devotes his life to affectations and appearance. <br /><br />While Palladian is smart and full of life. <br /><br />When Palladian appears here, most commenters think "great to see you".<br /><br />When Titus appears here, most commenters groan and think "please go away and stay away".I'm Full of Souphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00241724007440718575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86026819926396604882012-04-04T08:22:53.758-05:002012-04-04T08:22:53.758-05:00Freder Frederson said...
No, I'm saying Altho...<i>Freder Frederson said...<br /><br />No, I'm saying Althouse shouldn't be throwing rocks from her glass house.<br /><br /></i><br /><br />Stupid:<br />There is no glass house.<br /><br />Your example contained no editing.<br /><br />No attempt to be inflammatory or disseminate incorrect information.<br /><br />You're a silly & dishonest hack.Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64860351998917673752012-04-04T08:21:34.302-05:002012-04-04T08:21:34.302-05:00Freder Frederson said...
This from a woman who re...<i>Freder Frederson said...<br /><br />This from a woman who repeated, less than a month ago, that Bin Laden was not Buried at Sea. <br /></i><br /><br />Um, she linked to a story at Drudge and mentioned wikileaks.<br /><br />She also mentioned that the story was taken down from Drudge.<br /><br />There was no editing.<br /><br />You're an idiot.Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15732831877137242032012-04-04T08:17:22.068-05:002012-04-04T08:17:22.068-05:00NBC got away with it because reporters get away wi...NBC got away with it because reporters get away with this sort of thing all the time. Quote doctoring is basically standard practice in the mainstream media, in part because editors aren't doing their jobs. Combined with the crusading attitude of contemporary reporters ... it's a perfect environment for this sort of thing. It's harder, these days, with the internet making it easier to disprove false quotes. But for activists, the truth rarely matters: if it sounds right, people will believe it, despite evidence to the contrary. Too many reporters see themselves as activists rather than craftsmen. The solution is to recognize that objective journalism has always been a myth, and that journalistic ethics have never been enforced with any sense of urgency. We're seeing the result of this reality right now.Erik Robert Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02414707902613699749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60476767160705641532012-04-04T08:07:51.745-05:002012-04-04T08:07:51.745-05:00Freder Frederson: [Look! Squirrel!]Freder Frederson: <i>[Look! Squirrel!]</i>Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70545156428093963862012-04-04T08:07:15.582-05:002012-04-04T08:07:15.582-05:00See Mr. Coates on this issue:
http://www.theatlant...See Mr. Coates on this issue:<br />http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/04/altering-the-zimmerman-tape/255433/ <br /><br />I think he rises to your challenge.Bill Harshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094598931693185805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69453405527189827302012-04-04T08:01:34.646-05:002012-04-04T08:01:34.646-05:00"No, I'm saying Althouse shouldn't be..."No, I'm saying Althouse shouldn't be throwing rocks from her glass house."<br /><br />-- So, how is linking to a story and making an entertaining comment when it is pulled the same as deliberately attempting to make a man -- who, by the way, is receiving death threats -- out to be a racist?<br /><br />I fail to see the connection between snark on a news article and contributing to the mad fervor surrounding one man's death and the ruination of another man's life.<br /><br />Enlighten me.Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20302509019615165342012-04-04T07:58:04.829-05:002012-04-04T07:58:04.829-05:00So, Freder, are you saying this -wasn't- a bad...<i>So, Freder, are you saying this -wasn't- a bad editing job?</i><br /><br />No, I'm saying Althouse shouldn't be throwing rocks from her glass house.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11070690470711022672012-04-04T07:49:15.879-05:002012-04-04T07:49:15.879-05:00So, Freder, are you saying this -wasn't- a bad...So, Freder, are you saying this -wasn't- a bad editing job?<br /><br />I'm trying to understand how those things correlate other than foot stomping pointing to distract from NBC showing, what's that term of art?, ah yes: "Actual malice"?Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68425466167755921342012-04-04T07:47:28.956-05:002012-04-04T07:47:28.956-05:00That is the most outrageous, truly evil editing I&...<i>That is the most outrageous, truly evil editing I've ever seen.</i><br /><br />This from a woman who repeated, less than a month ago, that <a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/03/bin-laden-was-not-buried-at-sea.html" rel="nofollow"> Bin Laden was not Buried at Sea</a>. <br /><br />And she didn't have the decency to retract it (when even Drudge didn't have the temerity to leave such a poorly sourced allegation on his site) but instead pondered that maybe it was some kind of conspiracy and Drudge was pressured into taking it down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com