tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2776552389474876078..comments2024-03-29T04:30:19.523-05:00Comments on Althouse: When Trump met Ryan...Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44236863153253714132016-05-12T23:29:52.205-05:002016-05-12T23:29:52.205-05:00Meanwhile, Paul Ryan is clinging to a 64 point lea...Meanwhile, Paul Ryan is clinging to a 64 point lead over his pro-Trump rival.<br />Sarah, Sarah, why did you do it?<br />On an even brighter note, it appears that Debbie Wasserman-Schultz may get Cantored by a Bernie Bro. Amadeus 48 https://www.blogger.com/profile/15907486643353591432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76962425065050123142016-05-12T20:40:03.358-05:002016-05-12T20:40:03.358-05:00I seem to have stumbled into the j565 blog.I seem to have stumbled into the j565 blog.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26332528779933488862016-05-12T20:39:02.117-05:002016-05-12T20:39:02.117-05:00Ryan wants to be courted.
Trump won't do it b...Ryan wants to be courted.<br /><br />Trump won't do it but might be courteous.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66468709368818553922016-05-12T17:54:27.083-05:002016-05-12T17:54:27.083-05:00Donald Trump and Paul Ryan discussing abortion.
F...Donald Trump and Paul Ryan discussing abortion.<br /><br />File that under Things Noone Would Want to Overhear.harrogatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02026095215683554629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69568356998601714932016-05-12T17:47:32.380-05:002016-05-12T17:47:32.380-05:00I agree with Trump on one thing (can't agree w...I agree with Trump on one thing (can't agree with him on anything else because I don't know where he really stands). He could do or say just about anything and his supporters would yawn. It simply doesn't matter. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Laver10https://www.blogger.com/profile/08770031905053496197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73534652605096071682016-05-12T16:01:04.720-05:002016-05-12T16:01:04.720-05:00Who's going to pay for the health care? The go...Who's going to pay for the health care? The govts. going to pay for it:<br />http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-busted-video-shows-he-lied-on-healthcare-in-debate/article/2584300<br /><br />So, suppose trump said this exact thing in his first inaugural as to what he wants. Should republicans work with democrats to put out a plan that makes the govt pay for everything? I wonder then what's so bad about Obamacare? As bad as it is, at least th govt isn't paying for everything. <br />Dont tell me he is for market based solutions when he appears on the news and says otherwise. If that his position, then would you expect repubs to rubber stamp him? Why then would we not just vote for Hilalry care then? WHICH TRUMP SUPPORTED AT THE TIME. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52559711307164282832016-05-12T15:55:28.731-05:002016-05-12T15:55:28.731-05:00Get on your knees Ryan; open mouth; and suck Trump...Get on your knees Ryan; open mouth; and suck Trump cock!<br /><br />Suck Trump cock!<br />Suck Trump cock!<br /><br />yea.Titushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06593014816206957874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22780285174148765932016-05-12T15:50:22.417-05:002016-05-12T15:50:22.417-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12534136772886625802016-05-12T15:42:39.080-05:002016-05-12T15:42:39.080-05:00Big govt is bad, unless trump is bringing it. The...Big govt is bad, unless trump is bringing it. Then, you are not a republican if you oppose Trumps big govt. <br />Trump supported TARP. Republicans are sell outs for supporting TARP, but if Trump brought TARP then republicans would be sell outs if they DIDNT support TARP? <br /><br />Trump supported Obamas stimulus. Republicans are sell outs if they support Obama,s stimulus. But if it's Trump's stimulus? Then republicans are suddenly sell outs if they don't support his stimulus? <br /><br />Romney is a squish and republicans keep pushing RINO's on us. But Trump an even bigger RINO is GREAT because he's Trump. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13502159212014000842016-05-12T15:37:55.810-05:002016-05-12T15:37:55.810-05:00Cubanbob wrote:
jr565 give it rest. You sound like...Cubanbob wrote:<br />jr565 give it rest. You sound like a fool. If the Republicans had principles they wouldn't have continued voting for continuing resolutions for the last six years. They caved in like cheap suits for years simply due to the government shutdown bogeyman. <br /><br> would you want republicans to cave in to Domald Trumps big govt solutions? Or should they fight him on it? This is what I do t get about you. You argue as if the republicans should have stood on principle, but trumps positions would essentially be democratic principles. <br />And if you elect Trump I assume you want him to pass what he is offering. Which would mean that republicans would in effect be caving in and passing big govt solutions and not standing on principle. <br />It's like you're mad that Trump didn't oppose Obama but your solution is Obama II under a republican banner. And suddenly everything that Obama was for that you were against you are now for because a "republican" brought it to you instead. . And the republicans would be bad if they didn't go along. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70294568720258076902016-05-12T15:31:42.765-05:002016-05-12T15:31:42.765-05:00He is a complete democrat when it comes to entitle...He is a complete democrat when it comes to entitlements. He won't cut any of it. Instead he will fix the problems through cutting waste, fraud, and abuse. He keeps citing that as if it's a mantra. But it was even pointed out to him that if you cut all the waste fraud and abuse it doesn't come close to dealing with entitlements. And he has no answer.<br />So republicans think entitlements are a big problem and the issue can't be addressed by cutting waste fraud and abuse. I'm sure no repub is going to say "don't cut waste, fraud and abuse" who would argue otherwise? However, they are going to ask what then Donald? <br />And where is Donald going to argue? Is he going to side with Democrats or republicans? If he sides with democrats are trumpkins going to be mad at him or at republicans who oppose him?<br />Are the establishment republicans in that scenario the ones who support Trump? Beciase I would say that would make them DEMOCRATS. If you, the Trumpkins would support Trump there you are on the wrong party. And so, why am I having this conversation with you? Join the Democratic Party. They will be glad to never address entitlements either. <br />Whether Trump gets republican support then requires that he not rule as if entitlements don't have to be addressed. If you want repubs to bend, you are not a republican. I'm sorry.<br />jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68352575758378983172016-05-12T15:29:57.467-05:002016-05-12T15:29:57.467-05:00jr565 give it rest. You sound like a fool. If the...jr565 give it rest. You sound like a fool. If the Republicans had principles they wouldn't have continued voting for continuing resolutions for the last six years. They caved in like cheap suits for years simply due to the government shutdown bogeyman. <br />I'm saying that if Trumpy actually means anything he said or like Obama it all has an expiration date I don't know and neither do you but he has on his web site published enough to be seen as reasonably conservative. What are presumably principled Republicans going to do if the party wins the White House and retains control of Congress? Force Trump to keep his campaign promises? I'm beginning to suspect all these Congressional Republicans and part bigshots are scared shitless that Trumpy just might do that-force them to pass budget items one item at a time and he may or may not veto the item if it isn't to his liking. Imagine Trumpy forcing a vote on entitlements be they earned or unearned that limits them only to US citizens. How many Blacks are going to be against that? Or working class whites? How is the Republican Party big shots going to handle that? Every candidate tries to get one promise accomplished and Trump's big thing is illegal immigration and one thing for sure is that those people wouldn't be coming if they can't get benefits, can't send money home and can't find work easily under the table. And a lot of them already here would leave if things got too difficult for them. cubanbobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03746305669005611456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25210323675974446292016-05-12T15:18:32.870-05:002016-05-12T15:18:32.870-05:00Ryan at the post meeting presser showing he can in...Ryan at the post meeting presser showing he can interpret reality.<br /><br />QUESTION: You just mentioned the millions of new voters that he's [Trump]bringing in, new people. I was wondering how you actually interpret his success? Is it going to mean the real fundamental realignment of the party because of these new voters that he's bringing in, how do you interpret his success? <br /><br />PAUL RYAN: It is really kind of unparalleled, I think. He has gotten more votes than any Republican primary nominee in the history of our country. This isn't even over yet. He hasn't even gone to California yet. <br /><br />It's really a remarkable achievement. Gusty Windshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11433588447325247130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27268790306063518512016-05-12T15:11:35.371-05:002016-05-12T15:11:35.371-05:00(Cont) so whether republicans support trump depend...(Cont) so whether republicans support trump depends on which Trump we get. If he comes out and says I support Candian style health care as he did in his book them are you, the Trumpbot, going to be mad at republicans if they don't support it? Because he will probdlby get a lot of democrat support on that. <br />Who would the enemy be there? trump? Or the republicans who oppose him? Because if you back the universal health care option YOU are the enemy. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51877756816949671022016-05-12T15:05:31.094-05:002016-05-12T15:05:31.094-05:00Also, Achilles I'm not convinced that Trump is...Also, Achilles I'm not convinced that Trump is for market based solutions to health care.<br />When it was Hillary care Trump said : "I think it was very good. It’s a very very complex setup for things going on right now in terms of healthcare, but she came out with an idea, sounds like a pretty good idea, and a lot of people like it and embraced it. “<br /><br><br />And he also expressed an affinity for Canadian style healthcare polices in his book the Amercica We Deserve: The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America…We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing.”<br />Sounds like he likes universal health care to me. Enough that he would put it in his book. you say he supports market based solutions, HE says he supports Canadian style health care. I can't help not think that maybe what he wrote in his book has some bearing as to what he thinks about health care. And if he is saying he is for market based solutions NOW, that could be because he thinks that's what republicans want to hear. <br />jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61419578156758432082016-05-12T14:50:11.602-05:002016-05-12T14:50:11.602-05:00Achilles, Trump can propose that, but republicans ...Achilles, Trump can propose that, but republicans are going to have something to say about it. <br />You think Trump is a king? It just might work out that Trump, in seeking to remake the Republican Party ends up causing TRumbots to be kicked out. <br />Trump has said that he wants single payer. He's all over the place on what he wants and says will happen when it comes to health care. If his opinions line up with what republicans send his way, then there are no problems. But he doesn't write laws, so he is beholden to his party. If they don't want his agenda passed what is he going to do? <br />He has to deal with congress. If he wants republicans to stop being republican and adopt his ways what does he have to force them into that position? Nothing. So, don't think that, even if he is elected he suddenly has this mandate, if more than half of the party hates his guts. They will not have his back. Ergo, he is hung out to dry. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80575291365506145112016-05-12T14:46:35.682-05:002016-05-12T14:46:35.682-05:00buwaya: "there are republican goals?"
b...buwaya: "there are republican goals?"<br /><br />brutal, man. so true. seems they've pretended to have goals. not to say they haven't limited some liberal excesses, but ... right on.jghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05254850370113601762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21562444781303442492016-05-12T14:45:15.023-05:002016-05-12T14:45:15.023-05:00Nobody doesn't like DonnieLee cakes. He is in ...Nobody doesn't like DonnieLee cakes. He is in the high end Hospitality business and uses honey to catch flies and ego driven men.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43315597816984000472016-05-12T14:44:58.622-05:002016-05-12T14:44:58.622-05:00absolutely agree w/ achilles 1-3. also 4. liberal ...absolutely agree w/ achilles 1-3. also 4. liberal groupthink PC emperor has no clothes, but that pendulum was bound to swing a little back with or without Trump (still, credit is due)<br /><br />when paul ryan was a threat, trump lovers seemed to emphasize some chummy moment of ryan+obama. they're both intelligent, socially competent men so it's not surprise they can find some sort of genuine primate-social respect. but it seems to me ryan is perfectly happy to trash "obama administration" to his party base in hopes of having a political future. so either he's really phony or the "ryan is in bed with obama" folks were off their rocker (i'm leaning more toward the latter).<br /><br />what do you think? ryan really opposes the obama admin or just when the political winds favor it?jghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05254850370113601762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42543961394162638332016-05-12T14:43:50.466-05:002016-05-12T14:43:50.466-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81018461428938973942016-05-12T14:42:23.296-05:002016-05-12T14:42:23.296-05:00Reads like it was written yesterday.Reads like it was written yesterday.kjbehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02205930548533839170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39080347003227025342016-05-12T14:39:46.863-05:002016-05-12T14:39:46.863-05:00"Who are Trumpkins going to side with if Trum..."Who are Trumpkins going to side with if Trump pushes something that no Republican wants, like single payer healthcare? Suppose that generates a lot of democratic support. Are the Trumpkins now democrats? And they'd be at war with the Repubs? Ok, then get the hell out of the party. We were right to call you out. This is the folly of electing Trump for those supporting Trump."<br /><br />1. trump supports market based health care reform with health savings accounts. This is diferent from the current republican party that wrote, upheld in court, and fully funded obamacare.<br /><br />2. the neocons are out. <br /><br />3. no more open borders.<br />Achilleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04109507896997459818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90092514259135004262016-05-12T14:37:37.279-05:002016-05-12T14:37:37.279-05:00In regards to principle I mean ruling according to...In regards to principle I mean ruling according to ideology, Ted Cruz is certainly a more ideological conservative. So I'd expect him to actually push for ideologically conservative goals. Trump is a lot less conservative. So he will be much more of a pushover when it comes to getting his agenda passed. If he true to push something and he gets a lot of pushback form conservatives how likely is he to force the issue, rather than fight it on principle? I think Its a lot less likely. This is good news ultimately for republicans who will be pushing their agenda.<br />The worst that can happen is Trump decides to fight them on it. So ok. Who will back him? The only way he could get things passed that republicans don't want him to pass is if he goes to the democrats to do so and they can overrule the republicans. And then, that's it for republicans supporting Trump going forward. If he wants anything done he has to work with dems alone. That might even be bad for the few years that trump is in power. But what are his chances for the second four years. Would any republican support him? <br />Trumpbots might support him still, but by that point trumpbots would be revealed to be nothing but democrats and we have no interest in siding with democrats. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40654334287343986602016-05-12T14:29:21.715-05:002016-05-12T14:29:21.715-05:00They are there as there was very little places for...They are there as there was very little places for Ryan to go and he would have been cantored. <br /><br />With Rick Perry and Jindahl on-board he had nowhere to go. <br /><br />Romney is a lost cause and should be shunned.Dude1394https://www.blogger.com/profile/09831778595585773924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15894170900456812312016-05-12T14:23:30.738-05:002016-05-12T14:23:30.738-05:00I regards to being elected to the Executive Brach,...I regards to being elected to the Executive Brach, Ryan couldn't carry Wisconsin for Romney as his VP in 2012 and Trump lost the State in the primary a little over a month ago to Cruz. <br /><br />There's one thing they have in common. <br /><br />Wonder if Trump pointed that out as an ice breaker. Gusty Windshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11433588447325247130noreply@blogger.com