tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2775259464717355179..comments2024-03-29T08:42:27.691-05:00Comments on Althouse: "U.S. District Judge strikes down Mississippi’s ‘religious freedom’ law."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33065930826303436082016-07-02T09:43:04.548-05:002016-07-02T09:43:04.548-05:00Why are the three offending beliefs deemed "r...Why are the three offending beliefs deemed "religious beliefs"? Two can be defended by arguments wholly based on social science, medical science and history. And the third can be defended on arguments based on science. To be sure, such arguments represent a minority position in today's intellectual culture, but that does not make them religious beliefs. Nor does the fact that these beliefs may be consistent with a religious doctrine turn them into beliefs resting solely on religion.mtrobertslawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16545529878898998880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43971053854373415642016-07-01T17:48:42.676-05:002016-07-01T17:48:42.676-05:00Mark: the CDC says that Zitka can be sexually tran...Mark: the CDC says that Zitka can be sexually transmitted.<br /><br />Robert Cook: are you seriously arguing that antibiotic resistant gonorrhea and syphilis aren't sexually tansmitted? That's as dumb as the guy arguing Melania Trump isn't a U.S. citizen because she's from Europe.<br /><br />Your argument about homosexuality is so bad I can only assume you are trolling.Boxtyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04371034064849356356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18713546025782434862016-07-01T16:36:00.796-05:002016-07-01T16:36:00.796-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.campyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188668300381722712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79378977735186149142016-07-01T16:35:35.420-05:002016-07-01T16:35:35.420-05:00Freedom of religion laws are intended for cool peo...Freedom of religion laws are intended for cool people like American Indians and Buddists and Hindus, not yucky Christians.campyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15188668300381722712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10428837902254176092016-07-01T16:12:08.688-05:002016-07-01T16:12:08.688-05:00Any private business owner should be able to refus...<i>Any private business owner should be able to refuse service to anyone. For any reason. At any time. That's why it's called a private business.</i><br /><br />Yes, freedom of association. Like Springsteen, Mumford & Sons, Pearl Jam, and Boston canceling concerts in North Carolina over the LGBT law, actions which all of my lefty friends applauded.<br /><br />Or should we be able to force artists to perform in North Carolina against their wishes, like we're supposed to be able to force chapels, bakers, and photographers to perform against their wishes?<br /><br />A friend, who is a Quaker, didn't think it was right for Christians to be able to refuse service for a homosexual "wedding." So I asked, is she rejecting the concept of "Conscientious objector?" That ended that conversation.Michael The Magnificenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03820094319077676224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10854512199967825422016-07-01T16:08:28.219-05:002016-07-01T16:08:28.219-05:00"...only in recent times have we turned the l...<i>"...only in recent times have we turned the laws of nature upside down and nature has responded by giving us multiple antibiotic resistant sexually transmitted diseases."</i><br /><br />Anti-biotic resistant bacteria are the evolved result of the overuse of antibiotics. It has nothing to with sexual activity of any kind.<br /><br /><i>What</i> "laws of nature" have we turned upside down? Homosexual behavior has existed in every human society in every age. Homosexual behavior is seen in the non-human animal kingdom. There is nothing sacrosanct about sex...it is merely a distribution system for spreading and mixing DNA in the present and through time, (and can serve to facilitate bonding between/among sexual partners). Many life forms do not reproduce sexually at all.Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78861960595796482412016-07-01T15:30:31.380-05:002016-07-01T15:30:31.380-05:00Conservatives like me want to not give a shit abou...Conservatives like me want to not give a shit about gay marriage. Activists and judges won't let us not care. I have no beef with a law saying "you're not required to give a shit". damikeschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133230009952160269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16003131525904400942016-07-01T14:36:08.887-05:002016-07-01T14:36:08.887-05:00The "outrage" about his is again proof t...The "outrage" about his is again proof that many Republicans are no more interested in free speech and genuine freedom than Democrats; there only argument is what to control. As but two examples, Democrats want to quash dissent on global warming, Republicans want to quash dissent on their view of what marriage should be.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04450897654318345683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85849366060784757632016-07-01T13:08:28.191-05:002016-07-01T13:08:28.191-05:00Is a preliminary injunction really the same as str...Is a preliminary injunction really the same as striking down a law, or do we have some wishful thinking in the headline?Ambrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12186326715874648232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44080354292089313622016-07-01T12:46:52.832-05:002016-07-01T12:46:52.832-05:00Quoting @eric:
Any private business owner should ...Quoting @eric: <i><br />Any private business owner should be able to refuse service to anyone. For any reason. At any time.<br /><br />That's why it's called a private business.</i><br /><br />Yes. This is the answer. It doesn’t solve everything but it makes things much, much simpler. Keep the government out of dictating who does business with whom. That’s not American. The left will never concede that, though, because they left has no principles, only favored groups who deserve privileges. <br /><br />The equation of gay/transgender/etc. with blacks in the Civil Rights era has to end. Civil rights laws were necessary to combat official and legal racism. The problem wasn’t that the Jim Crow laws *tolerated* racism, but that they mandated it. <br /><br />This is not the 1950s. Gays are not being legally discriminated against. They don’t need extra special protection not afforded to others. <br /><br />All animals are equal, but gay animals are more equal than others. darrenoiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08092984633839461927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90974571403558037842016-07-01T12:30:27.978-05:002016-07-01T12:30:27.978-05:00It is always amusing when judges think that the Co...It is always amusing when judges think that the Constitution means something. Cute.Static Pinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17083787604745437979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25287380082604503572016-07-01T11:06:38.658-05:002016-07-01T11:06:38.658-05:00Is it still illegal to deny religious/moral instru...Is it still illegal to deny religious/moral instruction received from gods in the twilight zone as interpreted by liberal judges, teachers, acolytes, and Obama?n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40146069425298209982016-07-01T10:55:13.067-05:002016-07-01T10:55:13.067-05:00But what about the Global Warming State Religion? ...But what about the Global Warming State Religion? Surely it cannot be disobeyed.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22189922139637771292016-07-01T10:47:51.779-05:002016-07-01T10:47:51.779-05:00Crazy interpretations of constitutional rights lea...Crazy interpretations of constitutional rights leads to bad laws being written to counteract them.<br /><br />It all started in Mass. with their state Supreme Court creating a constitutional right to same sex marriage. This led to the movement to have heterosexual marriage defined within the state constitution and other legislation like this one. Same goes with abortion and state restrictions. <br /><br />If we didn't get the these broadening of rights by supreme courts, we wouldn't get all this legislation to try and circumvent it. lgvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18001474064691931617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30481536559501693662016-07-01T10:37:43.992-05:002016-07-01T10:37:43.992-05:00GOP must also add an abortion rider to any legisla...GOP must also add an abortion rider to any legislation for "no fly, no gun". If a secret list with no oversight and no due process is good enough to limit gun rights, it should be good enough to limit abortion. damikeschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133230009952160269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-942462774313136002016-07-01T10:27:17.773-05:002016-07-01T10:27:17.773-05:00We the People of the United States, in Order to fo...We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, as long as they vote the way their generation's elites want them to, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.<br /><br />The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the judges, appellate courts, politicians, groups who make the most noise or to the media.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16573640547050621579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83085755232742666072016-07-01T10:24:06.214-05:002016-07-01T10:24:06.214-05:00Any private business owner could refuse service to...<b> Any private business owner could refuse service to anyone they perceived to be gay by citing the above religious beliefs.</b><br /><br />Any private business owner should be able to refuse service to anyone. For any reason. At any time.<br /><br />That's why it's called a private business. erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18421496691136153382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68929114508701673672016-07-01T10:21:46.503-05:002016-07-01T10:21:46.503-05:00You keep talking about `making things illegal'...<b>You keep talking about `making things illegal'. I don't hear anyone saying this law would have made gay sex or premarital sex illegal - if you would read the story it's quite clear from the very first paragraph: <br /><br />" a bill by the Mississippi legislature that would have allowed private citizens and some public officials professing a “sincere religious belief” to deny services to gays and lesbians."</b><br /><br />As well they should.<br /><br />Why should "Whom you fuck" be a category that forces people to do business with you? <br /><br />If a baker says "I don't want to make a wedding cake for this couple", that should be their prerogative. If a painter says "I don't wish to paint a portrait of this couple", should also be their prerogative. And the only way a restaurant would know is if one is being an obnoxious ass about it, so you can refuse service because they're obnoxious asses.<br /><br /><b>Court clerks would be allowed to deny marriage licenses to same sex couples by asserting a religious offense.</b><br /><br />Then remove the officials name off the license.<br /><br />It's not like, say, being a mayor and ordering your police to not protect innocent people being assaulted by a mob.<br /><br /><b><br />Go ahead, defend away. Fire single mothers as you ban abortion access. Oh wait, you can't do either anymore.</b><br /><br />I love how "demanding medical facilities be clean as a medical facility" is "banning access". Demanding cleanliness in hospitals also "bans access" to hospitals based on this tortured logic.damikeschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133230009952160269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29615482108111948812016-07-01T09:59:46.169-05:002016-07-01T09:59:46.169-05:00Basic morality and common sense again debunked and...Basic morality and common sense again debunked and de-legitimized.mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3604576584292980222016-07-01T09:57:33.182-05:002016-07-01T09:57:33.182-05:00I agree it's totally wrong for the government ...I agree it's totally wrong for the government to make anyone feel like they're outsiders, not full members of the community, or that members of certain groups are favored members of the political community.<br /><br />I can't think of any examples of the government doing things like that, though, except for mean ol' religious Republicans, so it's a good thing this is a general rule.<br />Thank goodness the Left believes everyone should be treated equally under the law--that groups with certain beliefs shouldn't be targeted, that people who hold certain opinions shouldn't be made to feel like they're outsiders or blamed for bad things happening...no sir, I can't think of any examples like that. Hooray for equal treatment under the law!HoodlumDoodlumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17591221162603652473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61135851085631014702016-07-01T09:47:22.380-05:002016-07-01T09:47:22.380-05:00"Showing such favor tells ‘nonadherents that ..."Showing such favor tells ‘nonadherents that they are outsiders, not full members of the political community, and . . . adherents that they are insiders, favored members of the political community.’" Of course, fabricating SSM from the 14th, overriding actual decisions by the actual people, does no such thing. Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00505631054204611033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66623916183117200302016-07-01T09:40:53.640-05:002016-07-01T09:40:53.640-05:00And pay no attention to this other "Mark"...And pay no attention to this other "Mark" guy.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575021285669012791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72777714769605319822016-07-01T09:39:51.205-05:002016-07-01T09:39:51.205-05:00An atheist has just as much of a fundamental right...An atheist has just as much of a fundamental right not to be compelled to be involved in the irrational fantasies and legal fictions of the leftist new order as the rest of us. Truth is not reserved only for people of faith -- it belongs to everyone.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575021285669012791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91314177871338711462016-07-01T09:39:41.039-05:002016-07-01T09:39:41.039-05:00damikesc,
You keep talking about `making things ...damikesc, <br /><br />You keep talking about `making things illegal'. I don't hear anyone saying this law would have made gay sex or premarital sex illegal - if you would read the story it's quite clear from the very first paragraph: <br /><br />" a bill by the Mississippi legislature that would have allowed private citizens and some public officials professing a “sincere religious belief” to deny services to gays and lesbians."<br /><br />Court clerks would be allowed to deny marriage licenses to same sex couples by asserting a religious offense. A single mother could be fired from her job. Any private business owner could refuse service to anyone they perceived to be gay by citing the above religious beliefs.<br /><br />Go ahead, defend away. Fire single mothers as you ban abortion access. Oh wait, you can't do either anymore.<br /><br />Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10082613626960562059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6704301415099254662016-07-01T09:35:12.121-05:002016-07-01T09:35:12.121-05:00None of these three -- marriage, sexual activity, ...None of these three -- marriage, sexual activity, and sex -- are particularly religious beliefs. Each and every one of them is grounded in objective truth regarding the human person as revealed in right reason.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575021285669012791noreply@blogger.com