tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2597522165143219866..comments2024-03-28T12:02:32.411-05:00Comments on Althouse: The final debate.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger356125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16929310089515817862016-10-22T00:22:17.824-05:002016-10-22T00:22:17.824-05:00@Glory: I Put A Spell On You@Glory: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwCALR8ZAm8" rel="nofollow">I Put A Spell On You</a>chickelithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10773887469972534979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80753371872723457402016-10-21T23:57:16.668-05:002016-10-21T23:57:16.668-05:00Hello, I'm here to introduce someone to you al...Hello, I'm here to introduce someone to you all, his name is Dr.Ekpen Temple a spell caster that help me restored my broken relationship, I saw an article on the Internet someone talking about him how he help her in her relationship, today I'm a beneficial of that article, so that is why I'm also talking about how he has helped me so that someone out there that is facing the same challenge can also contact him for help. Here is DR EKPEN TEMPLE contact info: (ekpentemple@gmail.com) or on Whatsapp number 2347050270218.Gloryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11125928389426370946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5996331918607174552016-10-21T18:06:10.213-05:002016-10-21T18:06:10.213-05:00@mockturtle:
If you read my asterisked comment at...@mockturtle:<br /><br />If you read my asterisked comment at the bottom of my post, I acknowledge the problems you point out. This is not the fault of government <i>per se</i>, as any society of more than a very few people must have government of some kind; it is the fault of a government that is corrupt and has been bought by the financial elites, a government that is no longer responsive to or acts in service of the people, but acts as a tool of the predators, rather than a defense against them.Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86072698416960118132016-10-21T10:39:10.933-05:002016-10-21T10:39:10.933-05:00Do you want to organize your own local militia to ...<i>Do you want to organize your own local militia to serve as law enforcement in your community? Do you want the fire departments or the schools to be populated with non-paid volunteers? Do you want to trust that any medications or foods being sold to you are safe and not dangerous to your life or health? Do you want to trust that business entities large or small are not cheating you? </i><br /><br />Cookie, while I seldom agree with you, I do respect you. But just take a good look at these questions and ask yourself if the government is doing an effective job in these areas. Does the FDA really test foods and drugs for safety, or are they in cahoots with Big Pharma and the big food industries? Business entities cheating us? Hell, yes, and with the help of Congressmen on their payroll. And non-paid volunteers might just do a better job of teaching than the paid incompetents we have now. <br /><br />Ideally, yes, we should have the type of government you describe. But the bigger it gets, the further it pulls away from these ideals.mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69034619339797110712016-10-20T21:25:05.742-05:002016-10-20T21:25:05.742-05:00Robert Cook calls ne a "kook".
The irony...Robert Cook calls ne a "kook".<br />The irony.<br />Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3222952214150147852016-10-20T17:21:26.893-05:002016-10-20T17:21:26.893-05:00"Here is the flaw in your premise. Nobody who...<i>"Here is the flaw in your premise. Nobody who isn't a moron wants the government to do anything to and or for them."</i><br /><br />The entire purpose of government is to serve as the means by which the sovereign authority of the state, (in our case, purportedly/theoretically), <i>we, the people</i>--manages the functioning of society. We send representatives to Washington to serve us, to pass laws and manage society for our benefit, using our pooled money to do so. In a self-governing society, the government's purpose is whatever the people decide it to be.**<br /><br />If this is not the purpose of a government, what purpose does it serve? Do you want to build your own roads and bridges and train tracks between yourself and your neighbors in your town or across the nation? Do you want to organize your own local militia to serve as law enforcement in your community? Do you want the fire departments or the schools to be populated with non-paid volunteers? Do you want to trust that any medications or foods being sold to you are safe and not dangerous to your life or health? Do you want to trust that business entities large or small are not cheating you? Perhaps in a small village society of no more than a few hundred people, this is practicable; in a society of thousands, of millions, of hundreds of millions or more, it is impossible.<br /><br />You right wing kooks who think the government is supposed to stand back and let "the market" manage our affairs are just that: kooks.<br /><br />**(We do not have a self-governing society presently; our authority over the state has been usurped the wealthy and powerful, who buy "our" representatives to serve <i>their</i> interests.)Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42926644835596385052016-10-20T16:22:47.935-05:002016-10-20T16:22:47.935-05:00What low-grad moron believes that either of these ... What low-grad moron believes that either of these candidates will do shit for the American people?<br /><br />Here is the flaw in your premise. Nobody who isn't a moron wants the government to do anything to and or for them. There is very little that our government is constitutionally obligated to do. Most reasonable people would like it if our government just stuck to that.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57936785884343649552016-10-20T13:36:57.468-05:002016-10-20T13:36:57.468-05:00@Robert Cook: Those were great. I especially like...@Robert Cook: Those were great. I especially liked: <i>Liberal and conservative establishment condemn Trump’s insistence that elections are rigged. They say it “undermines faith” in our Democratic institutions. Good for Trump. For proof, we don’t need to go back to the Chicago miracle in 1960, Florida in 2000, Ohio in 2004. Just consider the evidence from the Democratic Primaries of this year.</i>Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00117933390338651739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72600214529726920412016-10-20T13:13:07.147-05:002016-10-20T13:13:07.147-05:00not that I would ever vote for him--
Aw, c'mo...<i>not that I would ever vote for him--</i><br /><br />Aw, c'mon, Cookie! Just for me?mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58004142499359562182016-10-20T12:31:31.610-05:002016-10-20T12:31:31.610-05:00 Matthew Sablan said...So, if Trump wants to join ... Matthew Sablan said...So, if Trump wants to join Gore-level delusions, whatever.<br />--<br />Well..given things being discovered and the overall weirdness of the campaign, he would look like a fool to say otherwise.walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17818749187960350810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19397647149195654542016-10-20T11:57:20.306-05:002016-10-20T11:57:20.306-05:00"'What low-grade moron (or heartless bast...<i><b>"'What low-grade moron (or heartless bastard) would vote for a candidate who would feed a sack full of puppies one by one to an Anaconda?'</b><br /><br />"If Trump had done that he might have done less damage to his candidacy than he did in these debates."</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/20/illusions-of-democracy-in-vegas/" rel="nofollow">I don't know, as I didn't watch it, but this recap makes Trump seem more appealing than Clinton, (not that I would ever vote for him--or her).</a>Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79058169940024764752016-10-20T11:36:11.479-05:002016-10-20T11:36:11.479-05:00"I thought his ramblings regarding the court ..."I thought his ramblings regarding the court and the constution were crappy..but the headline creating bit..especially the "I'll keep you in suspense" bit I am fine with."<br /><br />-- I still at least once or twice a month hear "selected, not elected."<br /><br />So, if Trump wants to join Gore-level delusions, whatever.Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19666628219393306892016-10-20T11:00:08.226-05:002016-10-20T11:00:08.226-05:00I think he did a lot. Not perfect, but like campa...I think he did a lot. Not perfect, but like campaigning, this skill will never be used in any other venue. I've debated and it is hard; and also, it is somewhat artificial. She was also not very good, BTW. <br /><br />But the point is, you're not actually doing the work of POTUS off the cuff, you generally have the chance to sit, think, ask questions, look things up. So it is just a game in that sense.<br /><br />It would be nice if he was better at it.<br /><br />But his skill or lack is not what would make him a good President.Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54492410680458943762016-10-20T10:36:41.490-05:002016-10-20T10:36:41.490-05:00"Never mind your own armchair quarterbacking,..."Never mind your own armchair quarterbacking, Brando, do you have any reason to think that Romney or McCain or RoboGOPster would process the information in real-time and deliver the answers you desire better than Trump? Resisting push back and distraction?"<br /><br />I don't think it's expecting too much for a candidate to actually prep for the debate, have some ready thoughts for likely questions, and avoid getting so easily baited when it's obvious after the first debate that that's what Hillary was doing. Yes, I think Romney or even Trump's youngest son could have listened to advisers and figured that out. I heard reports that Trump didn't practice at all, and after three debates I find that believable.<br /><br />Let's not lower the bar here. I don't expect rhetorical brilliance, but even a moderate amount of prep could have done something with these opportunities.Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219319435229314554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8189448261651506212016-10-20T10:23:03.421-05:002016-10-20T10:23:03.421-05:00Press across the board shocked! Trump didn't c...Press across the board shocked! Trump didn't claim he would relinquish his ability to contest results no matter what actually transpires.<br />Shocked!<br />I thought his ramblings regarding the court and the constution were crappy..but the headline creating bit..especially the "I'll keep you in suspense" bit I am fine with.<br />The press should hope they are characterized as part of the "rigged media". Otherwise they are idiots when it comes to this sort of thing.walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17818749187960350810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45092128816462886452016-10-20T10:21:28.496-05:002016-10-20T10:21:28.496-05:00For me, this debate will be memorable for a presid...For me, this debate will be memorable for a presidential nominee praising Bashar al-Assad, a dictator who repeatedly mustard gasses his people, by saying he's better than Obama. Deporable isn't a strong enough word.EsoxLuciushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267161303770175537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80550175559274718522016-10-20T10:04:45.269-05:002016-10-20T10:04:45.269-05:00Never mind your own armchair quarterbacking, Bran...Never mind your own armchair quarterbacking, Brando, do you have any reason to think that Romney or McCain or RoboGOPster would process the information in real-time and deliver the answers you desire better than Trump? Resisting push back and distraction?Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51504736446693386142016-10-20T09:33:52.334-05:002016-10-20T09:33:52.334-05:00"He is still in touch with Podesta constantly..."He is still in touch with Podesta constantly, but Hillary blames the 2008 financial crisis on high taxes (or at least she did in the first debate)"<br /><br />That's part of the shame of this all. Hillary made a lot of ridiculous statements in the debates, namely to connect the financial crisis to low taxes, and she did this in at least two of the debates. Trump either was too preoccupied to challenge her on this or just decided he had more important things to talk about.Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219319435229314554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57062079985360527182016-10-20T09:27:06.196-05:002016-10-20T09:27:06.196-05:00""Moving into the White House would be a...""Moving into the White House would be a "step down" for his father, Donald Trump Jr. told a Fox News reporter after the third presidential debate Wednesday." <br /><br /><br />Machine is an appropriate name. Most Machines have zero sense of humor. Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59828803100646306532016-10-20T08:13:16.756-05:002016-10-20T08:13:16.756-05:00Remember in 2008 when SNL spoofed on the Sandlers ...Remember in 2008 when SNL spoofed on the Sandlers for causing the housing market crash, and it got edited out for the replay?<br />Here are Hillary's people freaking out about the skit:<br /><br />https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/21779<br /><br />He is still in touch with Podesta constantly, but Hillary blames the 2008 financial crisis on high taxes (or at least she did in the first debate)MayBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966319657113124861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38161479395432752962016-10-20T08:11:15.232-05:002016-10-20T08:11:15.232-05:00"What low-grade moron (or heartless bastard) ..."What low-grade moron (or heartless bastard) would vote for a candidate who would feed a sack full of puppies one by one to an Anaconda?"<br /><br />If Trump had done that he might have done less damage to his candidacy than he did in these debates.Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219319435229314554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5994174996366376852016-10-20T08:09:46.190-05:002016-10-20T08:09:46.190-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Clayton Henneseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10278792485018315018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59302642010190239192016-10-20T08:08:52.337-05:002016-10-20T08:08:52.337-05:00"I have known I was going to vote for Trump s...<i>"I have known I was going to vote for Trump since he won the nomination. If, in fact, he came out on the stage with a sack full of puppies, and fed them, one by one, to an anaconda, I would still vote for him. And I suspect most of the people who are going to vote for Hillary feel the same about her. What kind of a low-grade moron would you have to be to be undecided about this election?"</i> <br /><br />What low-grade moron (or heartless bastard) would vote for a candidate who would feed a sack full of puppies one by one to an Anaconda? What low-grad moron believes that <i>either</i> of these candidates will do shit for the American people?Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49809283486192202362016-10-20T08:03:22.156-05:002016-10-20T08:03:22.156-05:00Speaking of fraud, I just found this in today'...Speaking of fraud, I just found this in today's wikileaks dump:<br /><br />On Mar 8, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Jennifer Palmieri > wrote: <br /><br /><br />Suggest Philippe talk to Josh or Eric. <b>They know POTUS and HRC emailed.</b> Josh has been asked about that. Standard practice is not to confirm anything about his email, so his answer to press was that he would not comment/confirm. I recollect that Josh was also asked if POTUS ever noticed her personal email account and he said something like POTUS likely had better things to do than focus on his Cabinet's email addresses.<br /><br />https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/21779MayBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966319657113124861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33635680599151952072016-10-20T07:42:33.094-05:002016-10-20T07:42:33.094-05:00Everyone likes to rag on Romney - but his declarat...Everyone likes to rag on Romney - but his declaration that Trump is a con man and a fraud - he was right.<br /><br />Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.com