tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2439076758098108022..comments2024-03-28T19:23:37.979-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Invent some better scenario... where the stolen food somehow ends up in the stomachs of people who need it."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger103125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29771232051951801082011-08-08T22:19:48.366-05:002011-08-08T22:19:48.366-05:00@Bart Hall in Kansas being vegetable farmers we t...@Bart Hall in Kansas <i> being vegetable farmers we turned the ample front yard into a substantial vegetable garden<br /></i><br />And you didn't get ticketed and *fined* ??!!JALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15503869597362866878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5411970169858999962011-08-08T22:17:50.185-05:002011-08-08T22:17:50.185-05:00@ caplight 9:21 AM
Exactly my first thought ---&...@ caplight 9:21 AM<br /><br />Exactly my first thought ---><br /><br /><i>But then my approach to gardening was always to let anything happen and then theorize it into rightness. That is, I did no work.</i><br /><br />Meade.JALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15503869597362866878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51187233259163945002011-08-08T18:01:45.521-05:002011-08-08T18:01:45.521-05:00At one of my very first apartments, in a strange c...At one of my very first apartments, in a strange city far far from home, I had a tiny little garden by the front door with a few little flowers in it and a few peas. I had one really nice Dahlia. It got one big red, velvety flower. Someone walking by broke it off and dropped it.<br /><br />I was devastated.<br /><br />Any other thing that is vandalized can be fixed. The flower couldn't be fixed in less than 12 months. When animals wreck your stuff, or bugs get it, that hurts too, but they're really just doing their thing and don't know better. I might have helped if I could have thought that someone who was desperately hungry ate my vegetables, but it was just vandalism.Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87880734217604449562011-08-08T17:55:50.674-05:002011-08-08T17:55:50.674-05:00Invent some better scenario... where the thief'...Invent some better scenario... where the thief's stomach is too ventilated from bullet-holes to enjoy stolen food.<br /><br />People who need it? Fuck thieves. They're the ultimate tyrants, they take others' property after making a unilateral decision that their need trumps all. I feel sympathy for the poor, but not guilt. Ask me for food and I'll share some, but try to steal it and you'll be eating a shotgun.Blue@9https://www.blogger.com/profile/16371286571496793710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-92112910601340224442011-08-08T17:41:37.975-05:002011-08-08T17:41:37.975-05:00(And yes, community gardens are stupid, if they...(And yes, community gardens are stupid, if they're open to all comers and un-fenced, for <i>exactly</i> the reasons Pogo says.<br /><br />But there's no reason a community garden can't be fenced off with only the gardener-participants having keys, which would at least help a little.<br /><br />Indeed, again, the lesson remains - no fences make for no garden. And bad neighbors.<br /><br />Boundaries matter!)Sigivaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152366541957466049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5956963376807619662011-08-08T17:38:44.747-05:002011-08-08T17:38:44.747-05:00Good fences make good neighbors.
No fences make a...Good fences make good neighbors.<br /><br />No fences make an empty garden.Sigivaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152366541957466049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5840784963551278592011-08-08T17:33:32.734-05:002011-08-08T17:33:32.734-05:00Also works pretty well for two-legged vermin.Also works pretty well for two-legged vermin.MikeinAppalachiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16358868772314396137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28646937540106733022011-08-08T17:31:57.893-05:002011-08-08T17:31:57.893-05:00The best garden, and landscape defense vs deer, ra...The best garden, and landscape defense vs deer, racoons, turkeys, rabbits, and the occasional bear is an 80 + lb German Shepherd.MikeinAppalachiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16358868772314396137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11048566656267411822011-08-08T17:07:03.511-05:002011-08-08T17:07:03.511-05:00Well, I don't have a cougar handy. Can I get t...<i>Well, I don't have a cougar handy. Can I get that Quiktrip?</i><br /><br />Here in SoCal, they're not exactly "handy", but they are around, to the chagrin of many a small pet owner. And, there are enough in captivity that you can purchase bottles of urine in the local nurseries.<br /><br />Any large local carnivore will do, even the two-legged kind. The higher the concentration, the more effective it is.Crunchy Froghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12817138913728820310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57404349258191541312011-08-08T17:05:01.172-05:002011-08-08T17:05:01.172-05:00LOL!!
Don't you people live in WISCONSIN??
A...LOL!!<br /><br />Don't you people live in WISCONSIN??<br /><br />And you come to Althouse to ask Meade for gourmet fertilizer recipe's??<br /><br />Seriously??<br /><br />Althouse was right-<br /><br />Just go to the store and buy your food-<br /><br />Clearly your roots have rotted away-<br /><br />BTW- this is not a slam on Meade...I think.<br /><br />BTW- fisheads......just sayin'<br /><br />(is there any fish left in Wisconsin, or are they store bought too?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55103633052766509492011-08-08T17:01:24.327-05:002011-08-08T17:01:24.327-05:00Chicken manure HAS to sit for at least a few month...Chicken manure HAS to sit for at least a few months; put it on plants right off and it's so high in nitrates it'll do damage.Firehandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562365951182027709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15906771166922837742011-08-08T17:00:01.521-05:002011-08-08T17:00:01.521-05:00Caplight: freelance version. Until they start cal...Caplight: freelance version. Until they start calling themselves 'comrade' and have a license from the government.Firehandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562365951182027709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81003241590748816532011-08-08T16:52:27.032-05:002011-08-08T16:52:27.032-05:00@DBQ: I like composted sheep manure. I like most ...@DBQ: I like composted sheep manure. I like most composted manure. Except chicken. Whether existing soil is primarily sandy or primarily clay, organic matter is the best amendment. Clay soil is generally loaded with plant nutrients that are unlocked and made available to plants when humic acid from the compost reacts with the clay.<br /><br />@ScottM: I'd skip the lumber and no, no landscaping fabric. With hoe, scrape off vegetation on bed no wider than 4' times as long as you want. Take soil sample for analysis by your cooperative extension service. Follow their recommendations. Apply to bed compost material 3-4" thick. Fork or spade to break into but not turn over existing soil. Add 3-4" inches more compost. Next spring, hoe or pull out weeds. Plant vegetable plants or seeds. Continue removing weeds and top dress bed with compost every winter.Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00117933390338651739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83825741584748607512011-08-08T16:17:39.902-05:002011-08-08T16:17:39.902-05:00Speaking of raised beds, is there any special cons...Speaking of raised beds, is there any special consideration for drainage or can you simply knock together four 2x10's and fill them up with good soil? Should landscaping material be put down under the bed?Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459388007426664813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5745019607347827662011-08-08T16:16:08.655-05:002011-08-08T16:16:08.655-05:00Hey Meade.
How about aged sheep manure? We have ...Hey Meade.<br /><br />How about aged sheep manure? We have several farmers who pile it up, let it self heat to kill the seeds and in a couple of years = dark loamy soil-like compost.<br /><br />Our soil can be somewhat sandy in some areas, since our valley is ancient ice age lake bed. In other areas peaty and fabulous soil. We go and get it by the dump trailer load and use that also in the raised beds.Dust Bunny Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13341429444562280127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15779960353989805772011-08-08T16:13:07.722-05:002011-08-08T16:13:07.722-05:00Cougar piss, poured around the perimeter. Critters...<i>Cougar piss, poured around the perimeter. Critters won't come near it.</i><br /><br />Well, I don't have a cougar handy. Can I get that Quiktrip?Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459388007426664813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26834325035735373742011-08-08T16:10:11.044-05:002011-08-08T16:10:11.044-05:00I'm in a fairly suburban setting and I don'...<i>I'm in a fairly suburban setting and I don't keep no steenkeeng chikones, but for the average pests like rabbits, squirrels, and such, on a raised-bed 4x8, shouldn't standard chicken fencing work?</i><br /><br />Cougar piss, poured around the perimeter. Critters won't come near it.Crunchy Froghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12817138913728820310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26509034032998802472011-08-08T16:04:40.937-05:002011-08-08T16:04:40.937-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dust Bunny Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13341429444562280127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22038023053379371552011-08-08T15:38:42.605-05:002011-08-08T15:38:42.605-05:00I call bullshit on that. It's a well-known fa...I call bullshit on that. It's a well-known fact that farmers don't have gluts.Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459388007426664813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15883085978821678732011-08-08T15:37:08.031-05:002011-08-08T15:37:08.031-05:00@ndspinelli
Ha! I was raised on a farm and during...@ndspinelli<br /><br />Ha! I was raised on a farm and during the summer it was all hands on deck to work the sluice gates when our irrigation water flowed, often late at night. <br /><br />On the way back home we'd raid a neighboring melon field...nothing better than the heart of a watermelon on a hot August night. Until we got a butt full of rock salt and grounded for the duration of the summer when we had to fess up how we came have welts on the backs of our legs and gluts.<br /><br />Good times.BJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447134335568803085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20281426378946651982011-08-08T15:07:56.811-05:002011-08-08T15:07:56.811-05:00You're welcome, Class.
Toxic "organic&q...You're welcome, Class. <br /><br />Toxic "organic" home vegetable gardens are something of a hobby horse for me. For example, presumably, the Clintons thought their poo didn't toxically stink. <br /><br /><a href="http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2009/06/did-sludge-lace-obamas-veggie-garden-lead" rel="nofollow">Apparently, it stunk to high heaven.</a><br /><br />wv: "bolevil" <i>Bolmidnight in the garden of bolgood and bolevil</i>Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00117933390338651739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19869349201433495612011-08-08T15:01:41.805-05:002011-08-08T15:01:41.805-05:00I gardened in Seattle's community garden, the ...I gardened in Seattle's community garden, the P-Patch system, for 4 years in 3 different locations. Each location had a number of beds set aside for volunteers to use for growing produce for the local food bank. As far as I was concerned, that took care of the "community" aspect of the garden - anyone working those beds knew up front that their efforts were on behalf of the "community". Each garden site contributed an impressive amount of produce each season for the food bank.<br /><br />That is why it was infuriating to hear some of my fellow gardeners defend the regular theft that occurred - "...if someone has been reduced to stealing, they must need the food more than I do" Easy to say when its not YOUR efforts being stolen. It wasn't enough that a number of beds and dozens of volunteer hours were already being spent on behalf of the community. When I pointed out this fact, I usually got a blank stare or the stink eye that seemed to say: "Oh what a heartless, soulless person you are, unwilling to donate your time and money to random strangers."<br /><br />I'm glad I have a large enough yard now to garden at home, and would never set foot in a community garden again.ALPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17902185031359525209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76486937994416772492011-08-08T14:55:56.763-05:002011-08-08T14:55:56.763-05:00Which one is the unpretentious one?
The one that ...<i>Which one is the unpretentious one?</i><br /><br />The one that sells live rabbits and ducks for you to take home and kill yourself. The pretentious one would never condone harming animals.Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459388007426664813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82993084778903327152011-08-08T14:51:49.330-05:002011-08-08T14:51:49.330-05:00Thanks, Meade. No more sand for me. It was a pain ...Thanks, Meade. No more sand for me. It was a pain in the neck anyhow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44769193597109618922011-08-08T14:51:16.410-05:002011-08-08T14:51:16.410-05:00the unprentious farmers market
Which one is the ...<i>the unprentious farmers market </i><br /><br />Which one is the unpretentious one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com