tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2428724153829934619..comments2024-03-19T05:50:55.970-05:00Comments on Althouse: Santorum surge.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8397427086416385842012-02-14T18:01:45.205-06:002012-02-14T18:01:45.205-06:00as much as machine sounds arrogant, he's right...as much as machine sounds arrogant, he's right. Right now, Virginia is pushing for a personhood act. But unlike Mississippi where it was voted on by the general public, it looks like it could be placed by govt edict (which is political suicide reminiscent of the early 90s). If that comes to past (which I believe will be toothless as soon as it becomes official due to male & female outrage)it would be the Gift Obama's been waiting for and would swing both fi-cons and women his way.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06195787036518929221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42436790495960687082012-02-14T13:50:14.153-06:002012-02-14T13:50:14.153-06:00Santorum is anti both...that is why he cannot win....Santorum is anti both...that is why he cannot win...and any editor of Harvard law review, almost any law review, is not dim.machinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15770538128023770615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79842836717601221882012-02-14T13:45:34.753-06:002012-02-14T13:45:34.753-06:00@chickenlittle
Too late: the GOP House has appare...@chickenlittle<br /><br />Too late: the GOP House has apparently already discarded any attempt to cut spending:<br />http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/291017/same-old-gop-andrew-c-mccarthy<br /><br />I'm going to have to run for Congress...Nathan Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17618170642379567187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62278305453670251542012-02-14T11:35:00.411-06:002012-02-14T11:35:00.411-06:00I am really going to be saddened if Santorum gets ...I am really going to be saddened if Santorum gets this nomination and that gets Obama re-elected. <br /><br />The problem seems to be that the far left and far right seem to be most motivated to vote in primary elections. I would rather see more average people. There's also a lot of anti-Mormon bigotry going on under the surface, particularly in places that don't have significant Mormon populations and people only know of them from gossip their hear from others. (I'm not Mormon, raised Episcopal, but married a Mormon and know many and travel to Utah often to visit her family members. The scariest thing is the wheat grinder and green Jell-O. Believe me, they are just normal, average folks).<br /><br />Last I looked, Santorum was beating Romney by only one point in his home state. That should tell you something right there.<br /><br />But there is a huge "not Romney" focus among the far right and I believe it is based on anti-Mormon bigotry but expressed as whatever excuse they can find this week because they can't come right out and say it.crosspatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202499155608563500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37152024358500521382012-02-14T10:17:30.617-06:002012-02-14T10:17:30.617-06:00machine said...
Does anyone really believe an anti...<i>machine said...<br />Does anyone really believe an anti-birth control/anti-gay platform<br /></i><br /><br />Who is running on an "anti-birth control" platform again?<br /><br />You do realize gay marriage has been put to a vote in a lot of states and on every vote it has lost, right?<br /><br />You do realize Obama is against gay marriage, right?Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49411476405031475312012-02-14T10:15:36.882-06:002012-02-14T10:15:36.882-06:00so a not very bright person can graduate from Harv...<i>so a not very bright person can graduate from Harvard law, after becoming editor of its law review,</i><br /><br />Obama is not very bright, nor is he intellectually curious.<br /><br />By the way Obama was <b>an</b> editor of the Law Review - and he published zero articles.<br /><br />A bit different than what you're saying.Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24472102967202407202012-02-14T10:02:56.812-06:002012-02-14T10:02:56.812-06:00George W Bush is a graduate of Yale University and...George W Bush is a graduate of Yale University and has an MBA from Harvard and became President of the United States and you guys kept telling us for 8 years what a idiot he was.<br /><br />So yeah, I guess we aren't so special. Liberals have been saying that for decades, what's the problem?Hoosier Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12872965118921894534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14801975957651772952012-02-14T09:48:28.038-06:002012-02-14T09:48:28.038-06:00"not very bright"...so a not very bright..."not very bright"...so a not very bright person can graduate from Harvard law, after becoming editor of its law review, and then eventually win the presidency of the United States...I guess our country isn't so special after all...machinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15770538128023770615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88187668482329207662012-02-14T09:42:45.106-06:002012-02-14T09:42:45.106-06:00Not so much wit as an accurate observation. Obama ...Not so much wit as an accurate observation. Obama claimed in his book that when in college he was drawn to radicals and Marxists. He's had a few in his inner circle as President and hes demonstrated that he's not very bright.<br /><br />Just call em as I see em.Hoosier Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12872965118921894534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77271834170452297022012-02-14T09:35:05.712-06:002012-02-14T09:35:05.712-06:00Amen to what Nathan Alexander said at 8:27Amen to what Nathan Alexander said at 8:27chickelithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10773887469972534979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24017196037338842202012-02-14T09:25:24.772-06:002012-02-14T09:25:24.772-06:00"dimwitted Marxist"
such wit..."dimwitted Marxist"<br /><br />such wit...machinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15770538128023770615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57769769424851477222012-02-14T09:20:53.279-06:002012-02-14T09:20:53.279-06:00Does anyone really believe an anti-birth control/a...Does anyone really believe an anti-birth control/anti-gay platform can win the presidency...in 2012?machinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15770538128023770615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52882877005855632522012-02-14T09:09:42.147-06:002012-02-14T09:09:42.147-06:00I'm long past caring and fast approaching apat...I'm long past caring and fast approaching apathy. If the best our political class can put out is Santorum against a dimwitted Marxist then we really don't derserve to survive as a nation.<br /><br />I mean we got to this point because a significant portion of the populace looks to the Federal government for everything from health care to ass wiping techniques with an ever decreasing number if people to fund all the goodies. Then you have enough people like our resident liberal geniuses who think we can just keep spending away and its all good cause the 1% will pay for it.Hoosier Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12872965118921894534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36251666995950334962012-02-14T08:55:14.744-06:002012-02-14T08:55:14.744-06:00bachmann surged...cain surged...perry surged...gin...<i>bachmann surged...cain surged...perry surged...gingrich surged...this too shall pass.</i><br /><br />Agreed, I’ve talked to a number of my friends who caucused for Santorum last week and it came down to that they think that Santorum is “more conservative” than Romney (maybe on social issues but I’m not seeing it on fiscal issues) and that supporting the “most conservative” candidate in the primary will help pull Romney to the right. I think also the fact that the (non-binding) caucuses/primary last Tuesday happened right after HHS announced that it was going to force Catholic hospitals to pay for birth control, Susan G Kommen reaffirmed its support for Planned Parenthood and the Ninth Circuit overturned California’s constitutional amendment on the definition of civil marriage probably helped to motivate social conservatives to turn out. <br /><br /><br />At the end of the day though, I don’t think that this is a sustainable movement but it does raise a concern I have about Romney in the general election. We’ve seen a number of “Anybody But Romney” candidates peak and then crash in the primary because at the end of the day, they couldn’t stand up to scrutiny and people weren’t so much motivated to support them as they were to vote against Romney. If Romney is the nominee, I don’t have much concern that he’ll stand up to scrutiny (although it’s easy to distort someone’s business dealings and political record particularly with a compliant media) but he needs to focus on making the case for why he would do a better job and not just “Anybody But Obama.” Negative ads work and they helped to seal Gingrich’s fate but I’d feel a lot better if Romney won Super Tuesday after campaigning on “this is my vision/ideas/plans for getting America back on the right track.” Once he does that, I think he’ll come closer to sealing the deal.Thorley Winstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17262423151559851671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50116767781018691712012-02-14T08:27:13.118-06:002012-02-14T08:27:13.118-06:00I think it doesn't matter who wins the GOP nom...I think it doesn't matter who wins the GOP nomination:<br /><br />We are going to see a huge preference cascade that results in an easy GOP POTUS win, GOP gains in the House, and GOP takeover of the Senate.<br /><br />The only reason the preference cascade hasn't started is because the left-leaning news media is propping up any/all half-assed, stupid, transparent b.s. that the Obama Administration and liberal pundits claim.<br /><br />The cocooning and whistling past the graveyard on the part of the left is reaching epic proportions.<br /><br />There is only one thing that scares me:<br />Fear that the GOP squanders the majorities (just like they did in 2002) by doing nothing to dismantle the Leftist-Socialist spending machine.<br /><br />Hopefully they've learned their lesson this time, and will dismantle the entitlement system piece by piece, instead of trying to co-opt it and replace Democrats as a vote-buying "Santa Claus".Nathan Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17618170642379567187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20935957568642948862012-02-14T07:54:44.395-06:002012-02-14T07:54:44.395-06:00Further in the electoral sense the South will like...Further in the electoral sense the South will likely go Rep while the coasts Dem. The key states of Ohio and Pennsylvannia are decisive here and I think Santorum could be very competitive in just those states. <br /><br />The anti-religious attacks from Obama are directly benefiting Santorum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9732626441879010662012-02-14T07:49:57.504-06:002012-02-14T07:49:57.504-06:00Seven
I think you underestimate Santorum due to y...Seven<br /><br />I think you underestimate Santorum due to your antipathy. He may in fact be stronger than the uninspiring Romney who's frequent gaffes make me wonder how he'd fair in the general. Romney's money makes him the most natural class warfare target, not so with Santorum who has working class roots and would challenge Obama for the Union center left.<br /><br />Sure he looses the social left (this blog), but honestly, there are so few votes in play amongst that group by comparison.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91807932008953715932012-02-14T07:48:26.436-06:002012-02-14T07:48:26.436-06:00I'm far from sure Romney can beat Obama, I don...I'm far from sure Romney can beat Obama, I don't like him as a candidate, but I am absolutely positive that Santorum cannot.DaveWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07384839000387921199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27558213993058695852012-02-14T04:13:22.143-06:002012-02-14T04:13:22.143-06:00I just don't see him making it long term. As s...I just don't see him making it long term. As someone pointed out above, Santorum is the last ABR candidate standing, and so finally getting his couple weeks of surge while he and his record are dissected. <br /><br />But, I just don't see him overcoming Romney. He is a social conservative, when we are looking for a fiscal conservative, and a legislator when we are looking for a competent CEO to rework the government after 4 years of Obama and 6 of the Democrats in power, and the disaster that they have foisted on us during that time, as a trillion or so a year was added to the deficit at exactly the time we could afford it the least. Oh, and Santorum is someone who lost a crucial swing state the last time he ran for office by a wide margin. Loser loser, double loser.Bruce Haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10815293023158025662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47310008845600493122012-02-14T03:30:59.973-06:002012-02-14T03:30:59.973-06:00Heh, even when I'm too weary to make more than...Heh, even when I'm too weary to make more than "one point" I ramble on and on. Ah, would that I could be laconic!yashuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716156754089411837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62905700372234515312012-02-14T03:24:34.669-06:002012-02-14T03:24:34.669-06:00I've sounded off on the Santorum surge here an...I've sounded off on the Santorum surge here and elsewhere, and now I just feel too drained and depressed to say any more about it. <br /><br />But Palladian, 7M, Cedarford, edutcher, Fen, lewsar, el polacko and others (heh, a motley crew) have said things on this thread I'll co-sign.<br /><br />OK I'll just make one point. I dispute somefeller's 9:31 claim that Santorum's popularity is due to "the militarist, big government Christianism that is at the heart of the current GOP". <br /><br />Fen's reply is to the point: nope. It's just that Santorum is the latest not-Romney. Santorum hasn't been "vetted" at all (compared to Romney and Gingrich); so he's an (apparently) anodyne empty vessel-- untouched by the Newt vs. Romney shitstorm-- on whom primary voters are currently projecting their political hopes and frustrations (sound familiar?). <br /><br />And the base's opposition to Romney (which is overstated, cf. Jay Cost's analysis) is not about militarism, an affection for big government (hardly! Romneycare is Romney's cardinal sin), or Christianism: if it was Christianism, how do you account for multiple adulterer Newt's recent surge? Or Cain's popularity (outlasting Cain's early bimbo eruptions)? Though Romney's Mormonism probably makes it somewhat harder for many Republican voters to warm up to him. <br /><br />IMO it's about populist sentiment toward the so-called "GOP establishment" and the MSM (much of it justified, but IMO much of it sadly misguided, at least as currently manifested, aimed, acted out). A lot of it is frustration over GOP members of congress disappointing Tea Party expectations; a lot is resentment left over from the calvary of Palin, which they're now putting (illogically) at the feet of Romney-- qua stand-in for the "GOP establishment". (This explains the narrative concoction-- ludicrously implausible, but compelling to many-- of Newt's Palinesque anti-establishment martyrdom.)<br /><br />That the base is picking Santorum as the latest vessel (the latest not-Romney) to express their frustration (Santorum, who doesn't have a Tea Party bone in his body) is an indication that this is a kind of drama being played out, with assigned roles (roles assigned to Romney, to Santorum, to Newt, etc.) that don't have much to do with reality, i.e. the actual political-ideological substance of those candidates, their political history or their proposed policies. <br /><br />But that's nothing new for primaries or general elections, as we all know.yashuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716156754089411837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19804917802050693662012-02-14T02:09:27.229-06:002012-02-14T02:09:27.229-06:00It's going to be a lot of fun to watch Romney ...It's going to be a lot of fun to watch Romney fail against Obama, or perhaps even win only to not be able to deal with the mess. Gingrich at least had a chance. I want him back. Too bad that milk toast, but good looking Romney, with women cheering him on (what's up with that, Ann and Ann) is still the default candidate. It's either Obama or Obama lite.Dantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07393170116669470751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71285589007299469222012-02-14T00:24:27.145-06:002012-02-14T00:24:27.145-06:00Fen - you don't read too well. The quote was f...Fen - you don't read too well. The quote was from Ron Paul in the midst of the Terri Schiavo Fiasco in 2005.<br />My post was all about Ron Paul, not Sullivan, railing at Big Government Christian Right people.<br />Sully just said the same stuff. <br /><br />============== <br /><br />===============Cedarfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602418702398818596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20189066503155360902012-02-14T00:05:26.980-06:002012-02-14T00:05:26.980-06:00What does this even mean? Santorum is big governme...<i>What does this even mean? Santorum is big government. He's for a big government that distributes pork. He's for a big government against free trade. He's a for a big government nanny state.</i><br /><br />this. santorum voted for every expensive thing bush dreamed up until PA voters had finally had enough and tossed him out.<br /><br />santorum is a social conservative and is perfectly happy throwing other people's money towards whatever passing fancy rules the day.<br /><br />at this point, i'll pretty much vote for whomever will make a valiant attempt to get the budget under control.<br /><br />i don't know if that's romney, but it sure as hell isn't santorum.dhagoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15708561613887820449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78044871915364204102012-02-14T00:05:12.791-06:002012-02-14T00:05:12.791-06:00Tea Party folk prefer Santorum over Romney 2:1 Do ...<i>Tea Party folk prefer Santorum over Romney 2:1 Do you know why, somefeller?</i><br /><br />The Tea Party is at its roots populist. Romney is a textbook elitist.knighterranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14886831250521410342noreply@blogger.com