tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2185823446243027082..comments2024-03-28T23:47:08.912-05:00Comments on Althouse: "I don't think any of the Republican leadership has accused law enforcement of siding with protesters or abetting them in anyway..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger120125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31251116382185028942011-03-13T07:15:55.500-05:002011-03-13T07:15:55.500-05:00I used Google images for a picture of Capitol Poli...I used Google images for a picture of Capitol Police Chief Charles Tubbs. And lo and behold, he's a person of color. Perhaps the only one in Madison. Hahaha.AllenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08848966772462502893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91558774004699588752011-03-13T04:32:40.336-05:002011-03-13T04:32:40.336-05:00Shorter Conservatives for Better Dental Health (an...Shorter Conservatives for Better Dental Health (and indeed most "progressives": <br />"People who disagree with me deserve to die."shanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10643191749167151526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78195510840719695362011-03-13T04:26:26.914-05:002011-03-13T04:26:26.914-05:00Ritmo: while obsessively posting a long-ago comme...Ritmo: <i> while obsessively posting a long-ago comment of mine, that he thinks exposes me for expressing something other than what he thinks I meant. </i><br /><br />No. Pogo is spot on. You got cocky and admitted why you post here - to hijack threads that challenge libtard groupthink. You're here to spike them, to stink up the place so bad that people will turn away. <br /><br />You admit to being a disrupter, a Troll. So its fair game to throw that back in you face when you muck up the thread.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72823629317053978802011-03-13T01:17:08.404-06:002011-03-13T01:17:08.404-06:00What was the rationale for exempting the police un...<i>What was the rationale for exempting the police unions from the provisions of the reform anyway?</i><br /><br />The rationale is called "picking a fight you can win".<br /><br />Eventually the police and firefighters will have to be brought in line, too.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50661941581550485282011-03-12T22:14:17.107-06:002011-03-12T22:14:17.107-06:00Interesting to see that Tubbs called Meade after y...Interesting to see that Tubbs called Meade after you posted this morning that Tubbs had not called Meade as promised. Guess that shows that Tubbs reads your blog and is responding to it.dickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08976498133597991337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59988915317474102512011-03-12T19:14:23.308-06:002011-03-12T19:14:23.308-06:00This line just jumped off the page at me:
" ....This line just jumped off the page at me:<br />" ... but I live in the real world, here in Madison, Wisconsin. "<br /><br />I would never have guessed that's where it is.<br /><br />[PhD, UW-Madison, '87]Dr. C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08755238133712243838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22272995765713909622011-03-12T19:11:38.197-06:002011-03-12T19:11:38.197-06:00What was the rationale for exempting the police un...What was the rationale for exempting the police unions from the provisions of the reform anyway? It seems to me the most compelling case for outright banning public employee unions is seen in the public safety area. I don't understand why, if you are going to push for public employee union reform, you don't go ahead and address the law enforcement (and fire, EMS, etcetera) problem right up front.DaveWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07384839000387921199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20290903379443254252011-03-12T18:42:33.122-06:002011-03-12T18:42:33.122-06:00I used to donate to my local police and fire assoc...I used to donate to my local police and fire associations. They are negotiating their contract right now. They have hinted through backchannels that the mayor and alderfolks who aren't with them shouldn't expect timely service.<br /><br />I will no longer donate to those associations.TosaGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08520232078421382322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67278091045505982952011-03-12T18:38:15.556-06:002011-03-12T18:38:15.556-06:00Throughout this whole thing I was appalled at the ...Throughout this whole thing I was appalled at the complete lack of professionalism of the Capitol police in Madison. They are responsible for public safety, but rather than impartially doing their jobs they took sides. This jeopardized the safety of public officials as well as ordinary citizens. The state police really need to conduct and investigation of this department. The Capitol PD leadership needs to be replaced ASAP and all officers need retraining. Gov. Walker should not tolerate this kind of unprofessionalism.mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08299910923301175999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9864655795401953462011-03-12T17:10:45.040-06:002011-03-12T17:10:45.040-06:00"Tubbs called Meade at 2:15 this afternoon (S..."Tubbs called Meade at 2:15 this afternoon (Saturday) to say they are looking into the handcuffs matter."<br /><br />When he called did he say "They call me Mr. Tubbs."Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1868110066273927752011-03-12T16:12:12.256-06:002011-03-12T16:12:12.256-06:00A question for you Madisonians. Everywhere I look ...A question for you Madisonians. Everywhere I look there is mention of recall drives against Scott Walker and against Republican senators. Nothing about recall drives against any of the 14 "Fleebaggers." Are there no such recall drives going? What's the matter with you folks in Wisconsin?Big Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831645119853118904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50353179014684808362011-03-12T15:47:11.030-06:002011-03-12T15:47:11.030-06:00Glad to hear that they're looking into the han...Glad to hear that they're looking into the handcuffing of the doors. It's a sad testament to the state of things in Wisconsin that without this blog, nobody would've known (or given a crap).Lincolntfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04620264736967842427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1908796186084316282011-03-12T15:44:04.066-06:002011-03-12T15:44:04.066-06:00"afetr which he taught high school for 10 mor..."afetr which he taught high school for 10 more years"<br /><br />He taught careers in public service classes (mainly law enforcement). Not spelling.Crimsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01618292072861640747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88121090872664434692011-03-12T15:42:18.547-06:002011-03-12T15:42:18.547-06:00C4BDH: I was suggesting that the police be remind...C4BDH: I was suggesting that the police be reminded of Kant's categorical imperative. That if they feel justified in selectively enforcing the law based on politics, then they (and you) should have no complaints when the military bases their behavior on politics. And my father is a retired police officer of 26 years, afetr which he taught high school for 10 more years. No stranger to public sector unions, but intelligent enough to see the stupidity of police acting in such a way. Clear enough?Crimsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01618292072861640747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37745300706233056862011-03-12T15:39:08.825-06:002011-03-12T15:39:08.825-06:00Well, Perfessor, as a Conservative Wisconsin resid...Well, Perfessor, as a Conservative Wisconsin resident, I think that Tubbs was successful--IFF avoiding mayhem is 'success.'<br /><br />At the same time, the definition of "respectful behavior" was taken down by several notches.<br /><br />Was that a fair trade?Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87676147095441372542011-03-12T13:47:21.409-06:002011-03-12T13:47:21.409-06:00The press should be not only a collective propagan...<i>The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.</i>--Vladimir Lenin<br /><br />I, of course, neither agree with nor approve of that statement.reader_iamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352836883752091339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8298170761476723832011-03-12T13:38:50.909-06:002011-03-12T13:38:50.909-06:00Some arguments work, some are more emotional or ju...Some arguments work, some are more emotional or just based in tradition. If you have a better argument, why are you responsible for making it sound humble enough for someone else to not be offended at being shown to be wrong? <br /><br />Seriously, what do I have to do? Apologize for going against blog wisdom and address everyone as "Sir" and "Madam", preface my remarks with descriptions of their eminence and great esteem? <br /><br />I just don't get what you're poking at, Just Lurking. You seem to imply that challenging conventional ideas (conventional "wisdom") is a serious offense and one that begs my endless humility. <br /><br />Since that dynamic is a theme that recurs constantly throughout history, I feel inclined to assume that it is what you are saying. <br /><br />Or, of course, you could clarify upon your return. No rush, just whenever you feel like getting your next refreshment.Ritmo Re-Animatedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15912086218531198114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1840635548951622652011-03-12T13:30:49.077-06:002011-03-12T13:30:49.077-06:00Ok- go anywhere people gather, and tell the crowd-...Ok- go <i>anywhere</i> people gather, and tell the crowd- "You're all a bunch of cretins and I'm your intellectual superior!"- and see what kind of reaction you get.<br /><br />There are a lot of bright folks here. I don't get how you come by your pomposity.<br /><br />I gotta run now.Carolinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11577584676839171856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69190511948091451182011-03-12T13:29:25.012-06:002011-03-12T13:29:25.012-06:00I am not bitter, Alex. It's called a more seri...I am not bitter, Alex. It's called a more serious discussion.<br /><br />Or as Bill and Ted might say, Stuff "So Crates" would talk about. <br /><br />Enjoy the day, guy. ;-)Ritmo Re-Animatedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15912086218531198114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18420237852769873652011-03-12T13:26:06.015-06:002011-03-12T13:26:06.015-06:00I notice Ritmo has gone from slightly humorous to ...I notice Ritmo has gone from slightly humorous to downright dour and bitter.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205752419540502278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-323705702194448112011-03-12T13:20:07.909-06:002011-03-12T13:20:07.909-06:00I don't know how drunk the average Althousian ...I don't know how drunk the average Althousian is, JL, but I don't see this place as a bar. Others have suggested coffee house, or the even more beverage neutral "salon". But not a bar. <br /><br />In any event, most people are prone to rhetorical excesses when talking about things important to them. Hence: Roger's appreciation for colorful (if appropriate, not that anyone could define that) rhetoric, and Trooper's embrace of that as behavior as natural and understandable as it can be problematic. <br /><br />I did not dismiss you as unbalanced; I dismissed the gauge you are following for what constitutes a healthy separation between private-public interests to be unbalanced. <br /><br />And I am not responsible for Pogo's or anyone else's misinterpretation and fixation with a previous post of mine.Ritmo Re-Animatedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15912086218531198114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18919133070132872232011-03-12T13:13:54.559-06:002011-03-12T13:13:54.559-06:00And as for my own television habits, I cancelled m...And as for my own television habits, I cancelled my cable subscription (and by extension, access to nearly all televised signals) more than 3 or 4 years ago. One of the best decisions I've made. <br /><br />This agreement of taste between me and yourself, Roger, I would take as evidence of the validity of Seven Machos' dictum to regard matters of taste as a basis for morality. <br /><br />Ordinarily, however, I wouldn't agree with him, though. On that as well as most other things. ;-)Ritmo Re-Animatedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15912086218531198114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24809337770507230272011-03-12T13:12:41.920-06:002011-03-12T13:12:41.920-06:00Yeah, I know. But when I try to speak in a more re...<i>Yeah, I know. But when I try to speak in a more removed and objective way I get accused of being an intellecshull, etc., so its a trickier balance to pull off. You have to remember that I don't have the benefit of a peanut gallery here. ;-)</i><br /><br />Well to be honest, I usually ignore your posts because they are often big on invective and short on substance. I get the impression that you are simply dropping turds (to use your colorful phrase), so I tend to ignore them. I only engaged you today because I found your argument intriguing. Silly, but intriguing.<br /><br />And them you dismissed me by implying I am unbalanced. C'est la vie.<br /><br />You really can't blame people for attacking you when you send out the signal that you come here looking for a fight. Walk into a bar with your attitude and you will likely get a similar response.Carolinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11577584676839171856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74021268542569683182011-03-12T13:05:11.310-06:002011-03-12T13:05:11.310-06:00Roger:
I am not using the foundational heros of m...Roger:<br /><br />I am not using the foundational heros of modern conservative punditry as a strawman against you. I am drawing reference to them to point out the political environment they have shaped among the larger public (amply represented here) and the inevitable fact that the majority of Althousians look to their style as a standard for social behavior, especially insofar as it has anything to do with political thought. <br /><br />I would praise you for having the good sense to nurture your mind with more sensible and important influences (and I thank and appreciate you for recommending that I either inform myself of them or read them in further depth). But you already knew that's how I felt. <br /><br />The point is, why shouldn't their rigor (and your example in following that) be the standard? Is Althouse and her crew doing them a service or a disservice? Does that even matter and if not, why not?Ritmo Re-Animatedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15912086218531198114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51947465942639877292011-03-12T12:57:48.873-06:002011-03-12T12:57:48.873-06:00That's bull Revenant. I am more than capable o...That's bull Revenant. I am more than capable of and open to debating any idea with anyone who can do so fairly and honestly. There are a significant portion of people here who understand that. If you don't, then that's a pity.<br /><br />The first comments on any thread here of any post are invariably insults of the people whom Althouse has disagreed with. <i>Who</i> is not paying attention <i>to whom</i>, exactly? <br /><br />But hey, at least you got to call me an idiot, which is nice. It also completely demolishes any point you were trying to make.Ritmo Re-Animatedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15912086218531198114noreply@blogger.com