tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2176818735679524890..comments2024-03-29T00:04:32.434-05:00Comments on Althouse: What happened in the Wisconsin senate recall elections?Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69122430264131421642012-06-06T21:45:55.767-05:002012-06-06T21:45:55.767-05:00"Wanggaard received 979 less votes than Walke..."Wanggaard received 979 less votes than Walker in the 21st SD.;trails Lehman by 779 votes. Lehman got 657 more votes than Barrett"<br /><br />RECOUNT!Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06269330709946831270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82155409137557113672012-06-06T18:43:13.846-05:002012-06-06T18:43:13.846-05:00By all means don't copy the dems habits, but t...By all means don't copy the dems habits, but then don't bitch when they steal elections by rigging recounts like in Oregon, Minnesota, Florida (didn't work) and of course the home of all this bs Chicago where the margin grows for the picked winner in any recount. What foolishness, you all continue to want to tie one hand behind the Republicans backs so that Dems have a more than "fair" chance to steal elections with their bs. SHAME SHAME SHAME. 800 votes, Reps should go after every single one, and prosecute fraudulent voters, illegal same day registrations, cross state line voters and any other "irregularity" (ie normal dem voter day shenanigans). Bring the gun to the knife fight and teach the dems a lesson that voter fraud will not be tolerated. This goes for all elections not just Wi. mpwmpwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17802549208627985470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36625073720686086562012-06-06T17:57:51.183-05:002012-06-06T17:57:51.183-05:00Nah. Forget the recount.
Start circulating the re...Nah. Forget the recount.<br /><br />Start circulating the recall petitions against Lehman.geokstrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00401801019217948068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63799365236903434452012-06-06T17:53:59.460-05:002012-06-06T17:53:59.460-05:00To answer the question by Luke Sneeringer, the los...To answer the question by Luke Sneeringer, the loser Van Wanggard was elected in 10, so is not up for reelection this fall. I'll echo some others...canvas then recount. There is no downside, with that small of margin it is not unreasonable. Forget the percentage...it's the actual number...799. Second, it won't take very long and will cost the taxpayers nothing, because it's over the "free" threshold. The upside is there is likely fraud, even if not enough to change the result. So that's a win, and shuts up the left forever, especially when "Voter ID" was a big part of the left's issue against Walker and the GOP in thee recalls. Illegitimate recall election with illegitimate votes! Sweet Jesus! If there is enough to change the result...WOW!Curious Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14440726941494085334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35587022461827583852012-06-06T14:33:40.798-05:002012-06-06T14:33:40.798-05:00I agree with those suggesting a recount, given all...I agree with those suggesting a recount, given all the stories of voting irregularities. Need the recount, and maybe some prosecutions to make sure that the process is clean, and maybe to say to the Dems and unions involved that fraud doesn't pay.Bruce Haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10815293023158025662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55821325085221633972012-06-06T14:06:31.200-05:002012-06-06T14:06:31.200-05:00Absolutely there should be a recount - there are s...Absolutely there should be a recount - there are so many stories of Democrat voter fraud, it's very worth it to look into it.<br /><br />For instance, if I recall, there were 2.1 million votes cast in the last election. In this one there were about 2.4 million (I think) - that's a pretty sizeable jump. Where did they all come from?<br /><br />Let's finally start pursuing and NAILING the Democrats for all the voter fraud. THAT will put an end to their power faster than anything else. Starting out with a 10-30% advantage from made up votes is a bit of head start, no?<br /><br />OrionOrionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00913419734709487748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3331066222608823202012-06-06T13:39:09.956-05:002012-06-06T13:39:09.956-05:00If the Racine state senate seat is not up for re-e...If the Racine state senate seat is <i>not</i> up for re-election this fall, then the discussion issue should be <b><i>who represents Racine in the next legislative session</i></b>.<br /><br />This is at least as important (to Racine residents) as which party controls the state senate.eteamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15795236602313344881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6615727003572382262012-06-06T12:49:11.767-05:002012-06-06T12:49:11.767-05:00Prof. Althouse,
Also, as we approach a final judi...Prof. Althouse,<br /><br /><i>Also, as we approach a final judicial determination on the voter ID law, it's important for the factual context — is there fraud? — to be developed. The Democratic line has long been: There's no fraud of any importance. If we decline to look at what might be fraud, the false perception continues. And that strengthens the position of those who are challenging the constitutionality of the voter ID law.</i><br /><br />Yes, there is that. But the real security hole is the same-day registrations without ID. If a recount would include a look at those, I'd certainly be in favor of it; if not, not so much. If there's been fraud in this race, it's far more likely to have been via fraudulent registrations (out-of-state voters, underage voters, &c.) than via forged ballots.<br /><br />wv: tiPblyS 75. Honestly, these are getting weirder and weirder.Michelle Dulak Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18041391162535875301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8770159757267061362012-06-06T12:47:00.004-05:002012-06-06T12:47:00.004-05:00Is the recalled seat one of the 16 that is up in N...Is the recalled seat one of the 16 that is up in November? If it's not, then there's a strong(er) case for a recount. If it is, then a recount is a pointless endeavor.Luke Sneeringerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13044604731804680781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77050177508440483032012-06-06T12:46:11.478-05:002012-06-06T12:46:11.478-05:00Recount. Recount until you win.Recount. Recount until you win.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08258681007386089907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40479545981195592572012-06-06T12:36:08.327-05:002012-06-06T12:36:08.327-05:00I'm sure that whoever ends up getting a payche...I'm sure that whoever ends up getting a paycheck for the rest of the year at the taxpayers' expense thinks it's worth it to have a recount. Besides, it's not impossible (theoretically) that Gov. Walker could call the Legislature into special session.RonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17346484258194484053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2096353726736285912012-06-06T12:29:57.333-05:002012-06-06T12:29:57.333-05:00Democrats woulnd't need a recount. They'd ...Democrats woulnd't need a recount. They'd find a couple of thousand votes in the trunk of somebody's car.DADvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621021178600799126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30054965422998805892012-06-06T12:24:56.900-05:002012-06-06T12:24:56.900-05:00Recount. 800 votes out of 70,000 is just over 1%....Recount. 800 votes out of 70,000 is just over 1%. That's worth recounting even without the reports from that district of union busses coming in from Michigan, people coming from Illinois to vote, same-day registrations being allowed even when the "voter" was holding an index card with their name and address on it, and union intimidation of at least one poll-watcher.<br /><br />It DOES matter even if there is no scheduled session until January. To change the recall rules in the state Constitution, the legislature has to pass an amending bill in two separate sessions separated by a general election. <br /><br />If they call a special session and pass it this summer, and again in January after the November election, the issue could go to referendum in the spring, and by this time next year, the state Constitution could be amended so that STUPID, POINTLESS recalls like these can't happen again.<br /><br />If Wanggaard loses, and the bill isn't passed now, the soonest the recall provision could be amended is early 2015. Although I would hope that anyone trying a recall movement now would just get laughed at.<br /><br />Just as I am going to laugh at any protestors I see when I drive around the Square later today.Petuniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16304522265105244481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18228883850261212752012-06-06T12:20:12.867-05:002012-06-06T12:20:12.867-05:00I would note...I would note...kcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05629564026352741675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63552386073247078532012-06-06T12:19:16.105-05:002012-06-06T12:19:16.105-05:00I would now that Racine would be right on the rout...I would now that Racine would be right on the route of that Michigan bus convoy.kcomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05629564026352741675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21359354509226604122012-06-06T12:14:44.189-05:002012-06-06T12:14:44.189-05:00The important thing is that voters know the electi...The important thing is that voters know the election was legitimate. Democracy isn't workable if the voters feel they cannot trust the results. If there are reasons to believe that the count might be inaccurate or that there are invalid votes, do a recount. If not, don't.Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37929792041583806602012-06-06T12:14:30.327-05:002012-06-06T12:14:30.327-05:00If there appear to be irregularities (enough to su...If there appear to be irregularities (enough to suggest the 800 vote gap could close), then there should be a recount.<br /><br />I like this idea that Republicans shouldn't copy the antics of Democrats, but it is important not to let outright fraud work. <br /><br />Also, as we approach a final judicial determination on the voter ID law, it's important for the factual context — is there fraud? — to be developed. The Democratic line has long been: There's no fraud of any importance. If we decline to look at what might be fraud, the false perception continues. And that strengthens the position of those who are challenging the constitutionality of the voter ID law.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21661335514861471272012-06-06T12:13:35.178-05:002012-06-06T12:13:35.178-05:00There's nothing inherently wrong or wasteful a...There's nothing inherently wrong or wasteful about calling for a recount. Democrats abuse a legitimate procedure to act out and punish voters. That doesn't mean that it's not legitimate. Don't let the abusers own the only tools we have to stop abuse.Bryan Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10387816413528886340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28434039740276370982012-06-06T12:07:10.719-05:002012-06-06T12:07:10.719-05:00Definitely recount.
Don't let the Demos have ...Definitely recount.<br /><br />Don't let the Demos have a thing.edutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15033144261502435196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34758618588675449892012-06-06T12:06:59.739-05:002012-06-06T12:06:59.739-05:00It depends on context. The Democrats would ask for...It depends on context. The Democrats would ask for a recount in any context,but who cares? Why do what they do? <br /><br />If there is, however, legitimate suspicion of irregularities, then a recount is warranted.Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67833388426667007002012-06-06T12:04:19.441-05:002012-06-06T12:04:19.441-05:00A recount is warranted in an election that close. ...A recount is warranted in an election that close. I would support a recount whether by a Dem or Rep.the wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16733198163180642859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40768795402508898292012-06-06T12:03:37.562-05:002012-06-06T12:03:37.562-05:00There appears to be some irregularities, including...<i>There appears to be some irregularities, including out-of-state voters,</i><br /><br />That's consistent with what I've heard. I know several people who live in Northern Illinois who voted in Kenosha and Racine in 2008 so I'm not surprised to hear about this.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07567899161777565306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63070279997169124032012-06-06T12:01:31.444-05:002012-06-06T12:01:31.444-05:00Make the vote raudsters sweat some. Recount and ve...Make the vote raudsters sweat some. Recount and verify the same day registrations.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5824934179590159902012-06-06T12:00:35.311-05:002012-06-06T12:00:35.311-05:00"Is it really a sure thing that the Dems won&..."Is it really a sure thing that the Dems won't be able to call a session and wreak havoc?"<br /><br />The Repubs should then flee out of state. To Canada, perhaps. They wouldn't be welcome in Illinois.Crimsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01618292072861640747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45744566300602384492012-06-06T11:59:48.335-05:002012-06-06T11:59:48.335-05:00"There appears to be some irregularities, inc..."There appears to be some irregularities, including out-of-state voters, and votes for Lehmann coming from a subdivision of mostly empty lots."<br /><br />-- That's a valid reason to check the votes and see what's legit. That's the real issue with voter fraud; if you don't stop it at the point, if the ballot ever intermingles with others, the damage is done and cannot be undone without knowing which ballot is contaminated, which requires a very tight chain of custody to prove (if it is provable at all!)Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.com