tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2162354637577339684..comments2024-03-28T19:23:37.979-05:00Comments on Althouse: Live-blogging the big VP debate.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger1101125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48396120956319218672012-10-17T03:50:53.445-05:002012-10-17T03:50:53.445-05:00Hey this is the very good Blog Post ive ever seen...Hey this is the very good Blog Post ive ever seen before this very nice post ! I hope you have so many post to come and by the way I want share my site to you just ,<a href="http://www.online-casinos.com/video-poker/" rel="nofollow">click this!</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13216793442579087658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21223736869136212582012-10-12T18:50:37.957-05:002012-10-12T18:50:37.957-05:00At no point did Romney interrupt Obama. He might h...At no point did Romney interrupt Obama. He might have interrupted Lehrer (just as Obama did). But when Obama spoke, Romney listened attentively until it was his turn to respond.. yashuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716156754089411837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84152703172971995452012-10-12T13:51:26.867-05:002012-10-12T13:51:26.867-05:00"I am aware of one poll that Biden won; 50/3X..."I am aware of one poll that Biden won; 50/3X/1X (Biden/Ryan/Undecided), via CBS."<br /><br />Check out the D/R/I spreads for all these polls. The CNN poll showing a slight Ryan win polled a larger percentage of R's than the CBS poll.<br /><br />Off the top of my head, I think the CNN poll was 33% R, 31% D, whereas the CBS poll was over 40% D. This just confirms my belief that each side thinks they won.Blue@9https://www.blogger.com/profile/16371286571496793710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42205856657329245142012-10-12T13:48:37.662-05:002012-10-12T13:48:37.662-05:00"Romney was interrupting a lot last week. Was..."Romney was interrupting a lot last week. Was that, also, "horrible?"<br /><br />I saw a qualitative difference there. Romney interrupted to clarify points or put more facts out. Biden was interrupting with sighs and weird facial melodrama.Blue@9https://www.blogger.com/profile/16371286571496793710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60472074435153016302012-10-12T11:00:31.041-05:002012-10-12T11:00:31.041-05:00A final thought: Biden's only good moments we...A final thought: Biden's only good moments were when he spoke about withdrawal from Afghanistan. He became assertive and authoritative in his delivery on that because he was right and Ryan/Romney are wrong there.<br /><br />Biden was the so;e sane Dem voice against the self destructive Surge ending at a set date.<br /><br />Speak truth instead of Obama Lies got Joe his mojo back for a few minutes.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25299101171563581402012-10-12T11:00:28.270-05:002012-10-12T11:00:28.270-05:00garage mahal said...
I do appreciate righties ral...garage mahal said...<br /><br /><i>I do appreciate righties rallying around the obvious loser though</i><br /><br />Tom Barrett is running for VP? Michael Hazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261384414481528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79709398018288907252012-10-12T11:00:19.867-05:002012-10-12T11:00:19.867-05:00A final thought: Biden's only good moments we...A final thought: Biden's only good moments were when he spoke about withdrawal from Afghanistan. He became assertive and authoritative in his delivery on that because he was right and Ryan/Romney are wrong there.<br /><br />Biden was the so;e sane Dem voice against the self destructive Surge ending at a set date.<br /><br />Speak truth instead of Obama Lies got Joe his mojo back for a few minutes.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77043236819409777942012-10-12T10:05:05.259-05:002012-10-12T10:05:05.259-05:00There are a couple ways of looking at what might b...There are a couple ways of looking at what might be hoped for in a debate like this: Fire up your base (so they get to the polls) sway undecideds.<br /><br />Based on the comments of the left wing here, they got fired-up. Problem is that the same antics that motivate the left <i>also motivate</i> the right. Plus, it looks like swing voters will be won-over by the kind of performance Ryan displayed and will be repelled by Biden's.dbphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00457585811847604584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55575936349994337152012-10-12T09:52:35.975-05:002012-10-12T09:52:35.975-05:00That's interesting because I listened to the f...<i>That's interesting because I listened to the first half hour on the radio driving home and was absolutely convinced that Biden was dominating and "winning." I presumed that those long silences were thoughtful pauses. I was absolutely shocked when I watched the same sequence on TV and saw that those "thoughtful pauses" was smirk-filled clowning. </i><br /><br />I didn't see Biden so much as a clown, as a nasty bully. And, yes, I too am biased. But, I don't see how he picked up any votes from true moderates or undecideds. <br /><br />But, that may have been the plan. How to get Obama's campaign turned around? Crank up the base. Sure, it will also crank up their opponents, but they were already cranked after the last debate. <br /><br />Or, and this maybe more realistic, Biden figured that this is what the campaign needed, and did it, with little concurrence from Obama and his people. <br /><br />In any case, I cannot see how his antics could have helped with very many true undecideds. He was just plain rude, and Americans expect more than that from their Vice President. The moderates and conservatives also believe in fair play, and he violated that big time. <br /><br />Ryan had a fairly low bar, at one level, and that was not to screw up, or let Slo Joe make a fool of him. And, he did that, without visibly losing his temper. <br /><br />So, I think that, in the end, Ryan "won", because he didn't screw up, and the impression that non-die-hard Dems and non-Obama-supporters came away with was one decent young guy trying to do the right thing, play by the rules, and one older guy lying, cheating, and just trying to intimidate the younger man. Plenty of good footage out there of Biden doing this for future use. Bruce Haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10815293023158025662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76853860011370492532012-10-12T09:51:02.488-05:002012-10-12T09:51:02.488-05:00Reasonable Man: You realize Obama talked MORE, got...Reasonable Man: You realize Obama talked MORE, got more time and was allowed to rebut as frequently or more so? Romney was forced to have to assert himself to even have what, four or five minutes less than Obama (to put it in perspective: Romney got an entire question's worth less time.)Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83018078279620890872012-10-12T09:49:46.409-05:002012-10-12T09:49:46.409-05:00AlphaLiberal said...
Romney was interrupting a lot...<i>AlphaLiberal said...<br />Romney was interrupting a lot last week. Was that, also, "horrible?" No, it's fine when Republicans do it. He was also smirking and smirking.</i><br /><br />Romney was a complete asshole in that debate. Apparently all the beta-males around here need their 'leader' to behave like that in order to feel good about themselves. It doesn't seem to matter to them that Romeny threw all their precious principles under the bus in the process.Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58577175431195161002012-10-12T09:49:02.086-05:002012-10-12T09:49:02.086-05:00Alpha: Romney was interrupting because he spoke si...Alpha: Romney was interrupting because he spoke significantly less than Obama and was constantly being talked over. If Ryan had been as assertive as Romney, maybe Biden wouldn't've lied so often.Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40373751781663687802012-10-12T09:48:12.596-05:002012-10-12T09:48:12.596-05:00Hmmm--a "reasonable man"--you choose to ...Hmmm--a "reasonable man"--you choose to ignore the rest of the polls--nice work--keep your day job.Roger J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12639676792043324100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62239394787352390652012-10-12T09:45:55.773-05:002012-10-12T09:45:55.773-05:00CBS Snap Poll
Joe Biden 50%
Paul Ryan 31%
Tie 19%
...CBS Snap Poll<br />Joe Biden 50%<br />Paul Ryan 31%<br />Tie 19%<br /><br />Let's try to get those facts straight. We can't all act like Romney, or words would have no meaning at all.<br /><br />http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57531059/poll-biden-takes-debate-over-ryan-uncommitted-voters-say/?pageNum=2&tag=pageBeloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54010763810099017272012-10-12T09:44:09.902-05:002012-10-12T09:44:09.902-05:00Romney was interrupting a lot last week. Was that,...Romney was interrupting a lot last week. Was that, also, "horrible?" No, it's fine when Republicans do it. He was also smirking and smirking. Again, IOKIYAR! AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60860148670650268022012-10-12T09:33:39.290-05:002012-10-12T09:33:39.290-05:00Et tu, Associated Press?Et tu, Associated Press?Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49659891958116056032012-10-12T09:32:39.807-05:002012-10-12T09:32:39.807-05:00The poor puppy got schooled but they love him anyw...<i>The poor puppy got schooled but they love him anyway.</i><br /><br />They do <a href="http://washingtonexaminer.com/thoughts-on-the-vice-presidential-debate/article/2510553#.UHeZfVHfLTo" rel="nofollow">at CBS</a>, anyway:<br /><br /><i>The instant polls:<br />CNBC: Ryan 56%-36%...<br />CBS: Biden 50%-31%...<br />CNN: Ryan 48%-44%<br />AP: Ryan 51%-43%.</i><br />///furious_ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11239113391394176670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84501083974134240982012-10-12T09:30:10.560-05:002012-10-12T09:30:10.560-05:00Did anyone read the WaPo fact check that savaged B...Did anyone read the WaPo fact check that savaged Biden? Anyone who honestly thinks Biden won by fighting against Ryan's "lies" is deluded. This is sort of like when people claimed Romney won by lying, only Romney did not lie and Biden did not win.Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9726175489977459042012-10-12T09:27:19.537-05:002012-10-12T09:27:19.537-05:00I think Joe did the country a service last night. ...I think Joe did the country a service last night. As Ryan said, the choice is clear.Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12133279828547003387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24799105129488826402012-10-12T09:26:01.618-05:002012-10-12T09:26:01.618-05:00garage mahal said...
I do appreciate righties ral...<i>garage mahal said...<br /><br />I do appreciate righties rallying around the obvious loser though.<br /></i><br /><br />Yes, this is genuinely touching. The poor puppy got schooled but they love him anyway.Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7779051937002920192012-10-12T09:25:22.426-05:002012-10-12T09:25:22.426-05:00Okay, liberal losers. Got that out of your system?...Okay, liberal losers. Got that out of your system? You also want to snarl, snark, sneer, and storm at conservatives! Right? Ahhh.<br /><br />We all understand that Mr. Obama can't do that without losing the election, but no one cares that much about the Vice President, and now formerly depressed liberal losers are cheered up.<br /><br />Can we get back to the usual issues and character assassination and such?MikeRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00127456522803816485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24839965385301921262012-10-12T09:24:37.575-05:002012-10-12T09:24:37.575-05:00Unrelenting rudeness is a symptom of a monstrously...Unrelenting rudeness is a symptom of a monstrously bloated ego. ricpichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01321511130788764861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86298923727417934782012-10-12T09:23:01.227-05:002012-10-12T09:23:01.227-05:00Didn't see the debate. More important than the...Didn't see the debate. More important than the polls about who won will be the polls about how people will vote, and whether the debate moved them. Last week, Romney's schooling of the President clearly moved the polls. THis week? Time will tell. Even then, there's only one that matters.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03404319354712386201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38661742872500997762012-10-12T09:22:26.160-05:002012-10-12T09:22:26.160-05:00Well, as I said right before the debate started, i...Well, as I said right before the debate started, it would get ugly, real fast.<br /><br />Biden was pretty much a joke. He landed a couple of jabs, but everyone will remember his performance more for a) acting like the "crazy uncle", thus confirming his own caricature, and b) lying about his voting record. Ryan came across as professional and did not get rattled by Biden's juvenile antics. He looked vice-presidential. He made his points clearly, and got in a couple of good jabs of his own. Ryan wins.<br /><br />Also fascinating to see the Democrat troll operatives out in force again here. Too bad their efforts were in vain again.glooglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03998245510610565693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15814431349444593502012-10-12T09:17:25.602-05:002012-10-12T09:17:25.602-05:00I am aware of one poll that Biden won; 50/3X/1X (B...I am aware of one poll that Biden won; 50/3X/1X (Biden/Ryan/Undecided), via CBS. That's a pretty huge difference than the other polls I've seen, so I'm not sure what to make of it. But, like all the snap polls of the night, they seem to defy what I saw on Twitter (that it was pretty much a draw.)Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.com