tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2146087611532491303..comments2024-03-19T07:40:22.649-05:00Comments on Althouse: Political blogging with an aversion to politics: my little corner of the blogosphere.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34423335421418357502007-04-25T05:48:00.000-05:002007-04-25T05:48:00.000-05:00Powerline's attack on Keith Ellison was based on E...<I>Powerline's attack on Keith Ellison was based on Ellison's past association with Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam. Ellison, to appear respectably electable, distanced himself from the Nation of Islam. However, Ellison never repudiated Farrakhan or Farrakhan's toxic views of Jews and gays. This was not a case of dissing Ellison "solely because he was a Muslim."</I><BR/><BR/>I guess if you are a fan of Powerline, this is the logical conclusion. <BR/><BR/>Obviously Fen has run out of arguments.Freder Fredersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01498410102809290399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4172843080022202652007-04-24T15:21:00.000-05:002007-04-24T15:21:00.000-05:00See? As evidenced above, in blogging commentary, a...See? As evidenced above, in blogging commentary, any post can indeed evolve into political debate. LOL I enjoy sifting through it, though. ;)Galvanizedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07127826397226516204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13435882039312590482007-04-24T13:18:00.000-05:002007-04-24T13:18:00.000-05:00Glenn is not advocating genocide but stating that ...<I>Glenn is not advocating genocide but stating that not responding effectively to terrorist actions now may induce us to employ an unfortunate and disproportionate response in the future.</I><BR/><BR/>Glenn is not talking about employing "an unfortunate and disproportionate response in the future" if current policies fail, he is talking about genocide.Freder Fredersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01498410102809290399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27010976241235184212007-04-24T13:07:00.000-05:002007-04-24T13:07:00.000-05:00It's pretty clear from the last line that Glenn is...<I>It's pretty clear from the last line that Glenn is not advocating genocide but stating that not responding effectively to terrorist actions now may induce us to employ an unfortunate and disproportionate response in the future.</I><BR/><BR/>But if it fails, he is saying genocide may be necessary, "unavoidable, and provoked, perhaps", but necessary. His arguing for less drastic and more humane measures now doesn't mitigate the fact that he recognizes that more extreme measures may be necessary in the future any more than Hitler's original plans to ship Germany's Jews to Madagascar excuse his later actions.Freder Fredersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01498410102809290399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4785447424318931662007-04-24T13:00:00.000-05:002007-04-24T13:00:00.000-05:00I'll post the entire paragraph that Freder truncat...I'll post the <B>entire</B> paragraph that Freder truncated, and urge everyone to follow the <A HREF="http://www.instapundit.com/archives/005598.php" REL="nofollow">link</A>.<BR/><BR/><I>Civilized societies have found it harder, though, to beat the barbarians without killing all, or nearly all, of them. Were it really to become all-out war of the sort that Osama and his ilk want, the likely result would be genocide -- unavoidable, and provoked, perhaps, but genocide nonetheless, akin to what Rome did to Carthage, or to what Americans did to American Indians. That's what happens when two societies can't live together, and the weaker one won't stop fighting -- especially when the weaker one targets the civilians and children of the stronger. <B>This is why I think it's important to pursue a vigorous military strategy now. Because if we don't, the military strategy we'll have to follow in five or ten years will be light-years beyond "vigorous."</B></I><BR/><BR/>It's pretty clear from the last line that Glenn is not advocating genocide but stating that not responding effectively to terrorist actions now may induce us to employ an unfortunate and disproportionate response in the future.Der Hahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05967487071137862252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17246552638048013282007-04-24T12:59:00.000-05:002007-04-24T12:59:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Der Hahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05967487071137862252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34036863175718599352007-04-24T12:19:00.000-05:002007-04-24T12:19:00.000-05:00Is there a marginally rational explanation for thi...<I>Is there a marginally rational explanation for this whopper, Freder?</I><BR/><BR/>I don't know how many times I have to post this before it sinks in. The good professor thinks that <A HREF="http://www.instapundit.com/archives/005598.php" REL="nofollow">genocide is sometimes a necessary and rational evil</A>. For those of you who don't want to link and face the ugly truth here is the quote:<BR/><BR/>"Civilized societies have found it harder, though, to beat the barbarians without killing all, or nearly all, of them. Were it really to become all-out war of the sort that Osama and his ilk want, the likely result would be genocide -- unavoidable, and provoked, perhaps, but genocide nonetheless, akin to what Rome did to Carthage, or to what Americans did to American Indians. That's what happens when two societies can't live together, and the weaker one won't stop fighting -- especially when the weaker one targets the civilians and children of the stronger."<BR/><BR/>Notice how he blames the American Indian for being in the way of "American Civilization" and apparently the Carthaginians were "barbarians" while the Romans were "civilized" (I guess the more "civilized" race is the one that is better at mass slaughter).Freder Fredersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01498410102809290399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75699871166127150642007-04-24T11:50:00.000-05:002007-04-24T11:50:00.000-05:00"Ann is enamored of Glenn Reynolds, another advoca..."Ann is enamored of Glenn Reynolds, another advocate of genocide."<BR/><BR/>Is there a marginally rational explanation for this whopper, Freder?tjlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06162785796605831050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48995260838526177872007-04-24T11:13:00.000-05:002007-04-24T11:13:00.000-05:00What a fricken boldfaced lie. Freder, you just los...<I>What a fricken boldfaced lie. Freder, you just lost any respect I had left for you. I read Powerline daily, and there is nothing bloodthirsty or racist or homophobic about it. Nor do they advocate the wholesale slaughter of Muslims.</I><BR/><BR/>Their wholesale onslaught against Keith Ellison, who they judged to be unfit for elective office simply because he was a Muslim, was nothing but blatant racism. The homophobia has already been cited. As for the wholesale slaughter of Muslims, they are most vocal in their view that no Muslims anywhere can be trusted and that we should use draconian methods to punish and respond to acts of terror, including collective punishment widening the war against terrorFreder Fredersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01498410102809290399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77334504343122760542007-04-24T10:49:00.000-05:002007-04-24T10:49:00.000-05:00Which, in turn, makes me think of:1. The Lion King...Which, in turn, makes me think of:<BR/><BR/>1. The Lion King<BR/>2. <A HREF="http://www.birdtricks.com/training_parrots.htm" REL="nofollow">Break your parrot's bad habits!</A>reader_iamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352836883752091339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28517026519179727542007-04-24T10:42:00.000-05:002007-04-24T10:42:00.000-05:00"You're just parroting lies to discredit someone a..."You're just parroting lies to discredit someone above your weight class. What a shameless weasel you are."<BR/><BR/>In case you're looking for more insight into the way I think, reading that made me picture two things:<BR/><BR/>1. A weasel experiencing shame.<BR/><BR/>2. A weaselly parrot.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57457754265040793172007-04-24T10:36:00.000-05:002007-04-24T10:36:00.000-05:00Freder: Anybody who regularly reads Powerline woul...Freder: <I>Anybody who regularly reads Powerline would be quickly disabused of that notion as he has consistently shown himself to be a bloodthirsty racist and homophobe who openly advocates wholesale slaughter of Muslims.</I><BR/><BR/>What a fricken boldfaced lie. Freder, you just lost any respect I had left for you. I read Powerline daily, and there is nothing <I>bloodthirsty</I> or <I> racist</I> or <I>homophobic</I> about it. Nor do they <I>advocate the wholesale slaughter of Muslims</I>. You're just parroting lies to discredit someone above your weight class. What a shameless weasel you are.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72115730698430438612007-04-24T10:14:00.000-05:002007-04-24T10:14:00.000-05:00Damn, Freder, you just made me nostalgic for Rich ...Damn, Freder, you just made me nostalgic for Rich Little.<BR/><BR/>The insult to Ann is not so much that she's being parodied, but that it's so badly done.reader_iamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352836883752091339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14152262341507373032007-04-24T10:03:00.000-05:002007-04-24T10:03:00.000-05:00I think this interview with Ann is much more revea...I think <A HREF="http://www.dependablerenegade.com/dependable_renegade/2007/04/the_manhattan_p.html" REL="nofollow">this interview</A> with Ann is much more revealing.Freder Fredersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01498410102809290399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80899072233727219802007-04-24T09:36:00.000-05:002007-04-24T09:36:00.000-05:00And that's all that Hinderaker is saying about Law...<I>And that's all that Hinderaker is saying about Lawrence v. Texas. Nope, he's NOT saying that he personally wants Texas's sodomy laws to be reinstated, and he's NOT saying that he personally wants anyone to be executed for sodomy.</I><BR/><BR/>Don't be obtuse. Hinderaker in the cited post is using Lawrence to state his own moral belief that homosexuality and homosexual sodomy is a crime against nature (he is silent on heterosexual sodomy), indeed against the "laws of nature and Nature's God". He sees it as a universal evil that transcends even societal mores. He is echoing Cedarford. <BR/><BR/>I don't know why Ann is defending him. Apparently she never reads Powerline since she claims "[h]e impressed me as a decent person who show no signs of inhumanity." Anybody who regularly reads Powerline would be quickly disabused of that notion as he has consistently shown himself to be a bloodthirsty racist and homophobe who openly advocates wholesale slaughter of Muslims. <BR/><BR/>Then of course, Ann is enamored of Glenn Reynolds, another advocate of genocide.Freder Fredersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01498410102809290399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1278819139237557252007-04-24T09:23:00.000-05:002007-04-24T09:23:00.000-05:00I so enjoyed this. Sure this was a lively conferen...I so enjoyed this. Sure this was a lively conference. Wish the entire thing were taped somewhere. I totally identified with EVERYthing you said in the first vid about blogging! It is a process of both self expression AND self-discovery. It's nice to see that many bloggers, like me, suffer from OBD (obsessive blogging disorder). And I think that the gentleman is right -- it is for more obsessive personalities. This, as in: <BR/><BR/>Wife: <I>(Abruptly rising from bed in the wee hours)</I><BR/><BR/>Hubby: <I>(Awakening)</I> Honey, where are you going?<BR/><BR/>Wife: Shhhh, just need to ping.<BR/><BR/>Hubby: Oh...wait..whaaaat?<BR/><BR/>Wife: <I>(Scurrying off, embarrassed)</I><BR/><BR/>;) It has replaced eating for me, though.Galvanizedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07127826397226516204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13257163590094428682007-04-24T09:17:00.000-05:002007-04-24T09:17:00.000-05:00How is Hinderaker a "your pal"? (The "a" is not a ...How is Hinderaker a <I>"your pal"</I>? (The "a" is not a typo.)<BR/><BR/>Jeez, Alpha, is everyone you ever attended a conference,or whatever, automatically a pal of yours?<BR/><BR/>"Your pal" is a cheap rhetorical trick so that you can impute whatever you dislike or disrespect about one person to another person who's not responsible for the former's positions.<BR/><BR/>Figures you'd use it.reader_iamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352836883752091339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76125541983620373972007-04-24T09:16:00.000-05:002007-04-24T09:16:00.000-05:00If I wanted to get the factual lowdown about someo...If I wanted to get the factual lowdown about someone's writings, why would I ever want to read a litany of false accusations about that someone, foisted on the world by an obviously dishonest hack on an equally obvious partisan jihad? Why-o-why? <BR/><BR/>Especially when it is such a simple and convenient thing to access and read that someone in their own actual words and in context in which they were written ? <BR/><BR/>The Powerline blog, of which Hinderaker is an integral part, has been around for years and is an esteemed mainstay of the blogsphere. And the archives containing all of what Hinderaker has written is right there. The best evidence of what Hinderaker has written is what he has written. Not the point of view of somebody he has essentially and effectively busted.<BR/><BR/>More directly to the point, a constitutional view that sees the federal government as a government of limited powers, reserving to the states and the people, respectively, those powers not expressly granted to the feds, is not radical wingnuttery. It's not even an "insensitive" viewpoint. It's rock-solid blackletter constitutional law to a fairly well. And that's all that Hinderaker is saying about Lawrence v. Texas. Nope, he's NOT saying that he personally wants Texas's sodomy laws to be reinstated, and he's NOT saying that he personally wants anyone to be executed for sodomy. What he's saying is that in the constitutional republic in which he live it's up to Texas, its citizens, its legislature, and its courts, to decide what those laws and penalties are to be. If you don't like the laws in Texas work to change them there or move. But it's not up to the feds to tell Texas how to govern itself on these matters.<BR/><BR/>And if you can't discern the distinctions going on there then that's on you.Swifty Quickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748423525653804001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43813997429317441002007-04-24T08:50:00.000-05:002007-04-24T08:50:00.000-05:00Here's a nice rundown of your pal Hindraker's dish...<A HREF="http://mediamatters.org/columns/200704230009" REL="nofollow">Here's a nice rundown of your pal Hindraker's dishonesty</A>.AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62181278999389987172007-04-24T08:40:00.000-05:002007-04-24T08:40:00.000-05:00I think this comments thread is a nice meta-commen...I think this comments thread is a nice meta-commentary on the blog as a whole. It starts out as being about something completely non-law-related but then in a random tangent Althouse's area of expertise pops up.<BR/><BR/>The Scott Johnson post that Tribeca links to just reinforces for me my own disappointment in the extent to which the proponents of Claremont-Institute-style Declarationism so often fail to even attempt to deal with the changes in Declaratory theory that occur between the founding and the 14th amendment which would complicate their direct translation of the 18th century understanding of natural law into constitutional rules. But that is neither here nor there.JimM47https://www.blogger.com/profile/07557198601361050165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21623079520868072922007-04-24T08:11:00.000-05:002007-04-24T08:11:00.000-05:00Paco Wové said... "You can read more about John Hi...<I>Paco Wové said... <BR/>"You can read more about John Hinderaker here:"<BR/><BR/>It's perfectly fine if you think they're all jackasses. But you should at least get the attributions right.</I><BR/><BR/>Tribeca can defend himself (or herslef as the case may be) but Tribeca said "You can read more <B>about</B> John Hinderaker here" not "You can read more <B>by</B> John Hinderaker here." Tribeca did not "attribute" the link to Hinderaker.Too many jimshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05646293982003548641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39853765766175998602007-04-24T07:59:00.000-05:002007-04-24T07:59:00.000-05:00"You can read more about John Hinderaker here:"You...<I>"You can read more about John Hinderaker here:"</I><BR/><BR/>You do realize that the post you are referring to was not written by Hinderaker, but by Scott Johnson, right?<BR/><BR/>A quick search found one actual Hinderaker post on the topic <A HREF="http://powerlineblog.com/archives/004916.php" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/><BR/>It's perfectly fine if you think they're all jackasses. But you should at least get the attributions right.Paco Wovéhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00053886112561036768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38382575701497711482007-04-24T01:32:00.000-05:002007-04-24T01:32:00.000-05:00I would've talked about passion, and what it's lik...I would've talked about passion, and what it's like to have a passion, whether that be gardening, or skiing, or collecting. For Althouse, it's Blogging--that's her passion. Passion brings fulfillment, and we all need fulfillment in our lives. That's what blogging is for her. Not for me, but it seems for Althouse, this is her passion.<BR/><BR/>But I also wonder about the narcissism. The Vlogs of Althouse stirring her coffee. Why is that interesting? <BR/><BR/>Well, why did Gentilischi, and Van Gogh do self-portraits? And, nobody called them narcissistic.<BR/><BR/>The self-expression and self-portraiture. <BR/><BR/>Passion.<BR/><BR/>I think I'm giving Althouse a compliment. Very rare.Maxine Weisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18164122931399241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86704143054126753252007-04-23T22:21:00.000-05:002007-04-23T22:21:00.000-05:00Ya know, I just always keep going and standing my ...<I>Ya know, I just always keep going and standing my ground...</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>Are you on one of those moving sidewalks?Ruth Anne Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01936054116421006847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89703519597857151452007-04-23T22:02:00.001-05:002007-04-23T22:02:00.001-05:00You can read more about John Hinderaker here:http:...You can read more about John Hinderaker here:<BR/><BR/>http://mediamatters.org/columns/200704180002Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01175858314832210342noreply@blogger.com