tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2116393690687392581..comments2024-03-18T23:08:20.960-05:00Comments on Althouse: Enough with the pigs, fish, snakes, and lambs... here come the wolves!Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger179125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26484312714375193662008-09-12T16:01:00.000-05:002008-09-12T16:01:00.000-05:00To Professor Althouse.Dear Madam,As the Ghost of a...To Professor Althouse.<BR/><BR/>Dear Madam,<BR/><BR/>As the <I>Ghost</I> of a Gentleman, <I>dead</I> these 260 Years & more, you may imagine the Insults & Calumnies to which I have been witness. Nothing more stabs the Conscience, and arouses tender Feelings of Sympathy in a gallant Gentleman, than Slanders & Libels direct'd without Justice against a Member of the <I>Fair Sex</I>, especially if Comparisons be made with <I>Beasts</I>.<BR/><BR/>Mr. <I>Obama's</I> late Jest upon <I>Pigs</I> in a Political Oration would at first appear to be such a thing. The careful Observer will see, however, only a small Slander grown out of Proportion. The Intent was to paint a Picture of Mrs. <I>Palin </I>in the Mind of the Audience as a Sow. Such a crude Jape, unworthy of a Gentleman of Mr. <I>Obama's</I> Reputation, should not, in itself, arouse excessively chivalrous & gallant Sentiments in her male Admirers; 'twas but a passing Jest upon Mrs. <I>Palin's</I> own Words. Mr. <I>Obama</I> also made it with no little Indirection, as befits a Gentleman who would perhaps insult a Lady, altho' the Audience wanted no Hint to take his Meaning.<BR/><BR/>Yet, Madam, there remains another View of such petty Barbs. Habitual vehement Jesting against Women renders the Conscience of both the Teller & Hearer insensible by Degrees to very real Wrongs, nay mortal Injuries, that may in the end be done. Such crude & unfeeling Sentiments seem to well up naturally in brutish Men of poor Breeding & little Sense. They reqire strong Correction, lest the noblest Impulses of the human Heart be utterly extinguish'd and Society corrupt'd.<BR/><BR/>By way of Example, the following Account is from a <I>London</I> News-paper in my Day, shewing where ill-temper'd Designs of mix't <I>Pigs & Women</I> may lead:—<BR/><BR/><I> The London Journal</I><BR/> 22nd August 1730.<BR/><BR/> We hear that at the late Assizes held at <I>Bridgwater</I>, an Indictment<BR/> was preferred against a <I>Sow-Gelder</I>, for attempting to <I>spay</I> his Wife;<BR/> but she refused to prosecute, and acknowledged her Forgiveness<BR/> of him, and desired the Court would do the same: However, <BR/> the Court remanded him back to Prison, and, for the sake of the<BR/> good Women in general, ordered him to remain there 'till he could<BR/> give 400<I>l.</I> Security for his good Behaviour during Life.<BR/><BR/> The Occasion of this vile Attempt, was this: The <I>Sow-Gelder</I> <BR/> being in Company with several other married Men over a Pot of Ale,<BR/> they all join’d in Complaint of the Fruitfulness of their Wives,<BR/> because of the Charges brought upon them thereby; and asking him,<BR/> whether he could not do by their Wives as by other Animals,<BR/> he said he could; and they all agreed their good Women should<BR/> undergo the Operation, provided he would begin with his own:<BR/> This, with a great Oath, he undertook; and going Home,<BR/> by Violence gagg’d and bound his Wife, and laying her on a Table,<BR/> made a <I>transverse</I> Incision on the side of her Belly; but after<BR/> much Puzzling, and putting the poor Woman to great Torment,<BR/> he found there was some Difference between the Situation of the<BR/> Parts in the <I>rational</I> & <I>irrational</I> Animals, and so, sewing up the<BR/> Wound, he was forced to give up the Experiment. The Woman<BR/> in her first Agonies appear'd strenuously against him, but being<BR/> Recovered by the Time of the Trial, was so generous as to forgive<BR/> him, and plead for his Pardon, as above.<BR/><BR/> I remember to have read one Instance (if I mistake not) of the<BR/> <I>Duke of Cleve’s</I><I> Sow-Gelder</I>, who actually perform’d this Operation<BR/> on his Daughter, whom he suspect'd to be young with Child by an<BR/> inveigling Courtier; but as he went through-stitch with his Work,<BR/> so his Prince wen through-stitch with him, putting him to a <BR/> cruel & exemplary Death for so <I>inhuman</I> an Action.<BR/><BR/>* * * * * * * *<BR/><BR/>This Account ravels several Strands that may be pull'd from the Life Story of Mrs. <I>Palin.</I> Nay, they are some of the Warp & Woof of the Stuff of a modern Civilized Society, where Children are count'd as an Expense, and being rid of them the Provenance of Physick. Our <I>Sow-Gelder</I> wanted only Knowledge of Modern Chiurgeury to compleat his Task, and so excuse himself from the Bother & Expense of <I>Parenthood</I>, continuing, as he would, Relations with his Wife.<BR/><BR/>Mrs. <I>Palin</I> & her Family have woven a pretty Tapestry, after their Fashion, from these Threads. The <I>Sow-Gelder</I> and his poor Wife made a very different Picture; shewing that Selfishness and ill-regard for Women, indeed, clownish Disrespect for the very Act of Procreation, are not the especial Possession of this Age.<BR/><BR/>Beggging your Pardon for the excessive Length of my Epistle, but praying that rational & sensible Persons will be reminded thus of the Difference between a <I>Woman</I> & a <I>Pig</I>, and so <I>Men</I> & <I>Beasts</I>, I am,<BR/><BR/>Madam,<BR/><BR/>Your humble & obt. Servant,<BR/><BR/>Sir Archy<BR/><BR/><BR/>N.B.—I beg the Pardon of both the charming <I>impressaria</I> of this Theater of Topicks (as I call it), and those Members of the Audience who may have been put out by my frequent Amendations to this Epistle; and, for its removal for several Hours To-Day. I had simply thought to move it to a more prominent Position and pertinent Topick.<BR/><BR/>I see that M. <I>Bissage</I>, whose Good-Will I value above all else, has already made Reference to this Location; so, I reluctantly replace a Copy of the Original, which has since been publish'd elsewhere, praying that Professor <I>Althouse</I> and the Publick will understand that I do not attempt to thrust myself upon the Audience, but only accomodate the Desires of my Friends.Sir Archyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966239101217563726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35110514935650319042008-09-12T00:51:00.000-05:002008-09-12T00:51:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sir Archyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966239101217563726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90129632286784235042008-09-12T00:42:00.000-05:002008-09-12T00:42:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sir Archyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966239101217563726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63025875330977909732008-09-12T00:40:00.000-05:002008-09-12T00:40:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sir Archyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16966239101217563726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86304581089266539402008-09-10T20:51:00.000-05:002008-09-10T20:51:00.000-05:00I'm thinking of buying a bunch of "Obama wins" sha...I'm thinking of buying a bunch of "Obama wins" shares. If he loses, great, and if he wins I'll have some extra cash to pay for my tax increase.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50787750980242267292008-09-10T20:41:00.000-05:002008-09-10T20:41:00.000-05:00"The "Big Bounce!" turns out to be a 2% swing rele..."The "Big Bounce!" turns out to be a 2% swing relegated to primarily people in the South."<BR/><BR/>Have you checked <A HREF="http://www.intrade.com/" REL="nofollow">InTrade</A> recently?<BR/><BR/>Obama has gone from $62 a week ago to sub-$50 today. For the first time since May, he's not the favorite...McCain is above $50 for the first time ever.<BR/><BR/>That's what I call the smart money.KLDAVIShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11739096339024969075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51491306970023165492008-09-10T20:37:00.000-05:002008-09-10T20:37:00.000-05:00The lipstick ad is on YouTube here.The lipstick ad is on <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8J4KOeKIOg" REL="nofollow">YouTube</A> here.KLDAVIShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11739096339024969075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61757218654815309752008-09-10T20:33:00.000-05:002008-09-10T20:33:00.000-05:00I want to see one of those little pollcode polls.S...I want to see one of those little pollcode polls.<BR/><BR/><I>Should Althouse update this post to indicate that the claim in the ad has no basis in fact?</I><BR/><BR/>∙Yes, that would only be honest.<BR/><BR/>∙No, that would only be honest.Ken Pidcockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15236539087094493564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66939223300634952152008-09-10T20:17:00.000-05:002008-09-10T20:17:00.000-05:00Rev said: I totally apologize to Pogo and others f...Rev said: <I>I totally apologize to Pogo and others for all those atheistic arguments I used to make. I see the light now.</I><BR/><BR/>AL's just teasing. He's the Prince of Lies. And the ArchDuke of spamming talking points.<BR/><BR/><I>But KLDavis, there has to be something in it, because CBS wouldn't have allowed themselves to look bad if there weren't.</I><BR/><BR/>CBS probably didn't pull it. Anyone can do a takedown, though I think there are some (completely unenforced) legal ramifications for issuing a false one.blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05430444326700437630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16354779982677825042008-09-10T20:16:00.001-05:002008-09-10T20:16:00.001-05:00garage mahal said... KnoxI'm desperate for pointin...garage mahal said... <BR/><EM>Knox<BR/>I'm desperate for pointing out the garbage floated about? Okee. So why does she have to constantly lie about her record and refuse to answer any questions if she is so great?</EM><BR/><BR/><BR/>Hillary CLinton lied about her record all over the media and they ate it up. Obama has no record and the media is eating him up. <BR/><BR/>Why should Palin have to justify the truth? The way she has been treated, she can pick and choose who to talk to and screw the rest. The media is owed nothing, they are not elected or appointed watch dogs. They act like rabid, untrained, wild attack dogs.Peter V. Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04209902525167395224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69715978058415830382008-09-10T20:16:00.000-05:002008-09-10T20:16:00.000-05:00OK, is this some kind of record?I mean, yeah, it's...OK, is this some kind of record?<BR/><BR/>I mean, yeah, it's a broken record.<BR/><BR/>But have we had 11 days of non-stop Palin here on Althouse? Adorned with hundreds of message a day?<BR/><BR/>I can't remember a topic like that in Althouse history. Not even one that came close.<BR/><BR/>A little bit of a run on Obama in August, but not nearly so hot. And I wonder if all those people bitchin' about how Ann was spending all her (blog) time on Obama feel about Ann spending all her (blog) time on Palin?blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05430444326700437630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48009474868415346182008-09-10T19:39:00.000-05:002008-09-10T19:39:00.000-05:00The "Big Bounce!" turns out to be a 2% swing releg...<I>The "Big Bounce!" turns out to be a 2% swing relegated to primarily people in the South. </I><BR/><BR/>More desperation. First you're ticking off all these convoluted reasons why nothing good about her counts... now you're ticking off all these reasons why none of the poll numbers count. <BR/><BR/>I'm sorry, truly... maybe Hillary can come back in 2020.knoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231876226573540476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3936255202175731982008-09-10T18:45:00.000-05:002008-09-10T18:45:00.000-05:00When I first saw the ad, I wasn't sure whether the...When I first saw the ad, I wasn't sure whether the wolves were supposed to be lawyers, or were supposed to eat the lawyers.John Hilleryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04253272911135858871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6094454279488450702008-09-10T18:28:00.000-05:002008-09-10T18:28:00.000-05:00People, meaning Palin?I heard the joke repeated by...<I>People, meaning Palin?</I><BR/><BR/>I heard the joke repeated by a number of non-Republican women the day after the speech; they thought it was her best line.<BR/><BR/><I>Once again, the whambulance is on the way.</I><BR/><BR/>It is an objective fact that a lot of non-Republican women saw Obama's remark as sexist. You can accuse them all of crying "waah" if you like; in fact, I'd prefer it if you did. The more people Obama supporters alienate with their arrogance, the less likely I am to have that dolt as my next President.<BR/><BR/><I>She wants to introduce an image of herself and can't handle it when it's used against her.</I><BR/><BR/>When what is used against her? You just got done saying the remark wasn't aimed at her; now you're whining that she can't handle the remark being aimed at her. Make up your mind, please. While you're at it, explain your basis for saying "she can't handle it". I haven't heard Palin accuse Obama of sexism -- have you?<BR/><BR/><I>It's more of the same old GOP can dish it out but can't take it. </I><BR/><BR/>Given how many phony claims of racism the Obama campaign and its supporters have thrown out over the past few months it is funny, to say the least, to hear one of *you* talk about people who can dish it out but can't take it. :)Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22107348834985927332008-09-10T18:27:00.000-05:002008-09-10T18:27:00.000-05:00The Reagan bear ad is so silly it makes me want so...The Reagan bear ad is so silly it makes me want so see a remake of <I>Red Dawn</I> with an all-bear cast.zeekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18156700909024216301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14443583112954343262008-09-10T18:14:00.000-05:002008-09-10T18:14:00.000-05:00revenant, no it's "Superman can whip Batman" and "...revenant, no it's "Superman can whip Batman" and "No, but Iron Man would beat BOTH of them" stupid. (I spend too much time reading comic books!)Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55664237120346830152008-09-10T18:13:00.000-05:002008-09-10T18:13:00.000-05:00Garage--we got into it last night, and I want to a...Garage--we got into it last night, and I want to apoloize for my over the top criticism of you personally. Uncalled for on my part.Roger J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12639676792043324100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27623342597937145652008-09-10T18:12:00.001-05:002008-09-10T18:12:00.001-05:00People were already talking about her "pit bull wi...<I>People were already talking about her "pit bull with lipstick"</I><BR/><BR/>People, meaning Palin? Once again, the whambulance is on the way. She wants to introduce an image of herself and can't handle it when it's used against her. I'm underwhelmed. <BR/><BR/>Still, it's a wildly stretched context. He clearly was referring to McCain's claims. If there was a little double entendre going on, I don't care. It's more of the same old GOP can dish it out but can't take it. She's a tough conservative feminist, or she's a little hothouse flower. Y'all need to make your minds.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16944852642764718802008-09-10T18:12:00.000-05:002008-09-10T18:12:00.000-05:00"I'm deleting my Althouse bookmark and replacing i..."I'm deleting my Althouse bookmark and replacing it with Sullivan."<BR/><BR/>Oh good does that mean you'll be going away forever?Palladianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01105490715666718993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46539069265240614042008-09-10T18:09:00.000-05:002008-09-10T18:09:00.000-05:00Well, no, they wouldn't. That's just stupid. Deepl...<I>Well, no, they wouldn't. That's just stupid. Deeply, deeply stupid. Playground stupid.</I><BR/><BR/>"Cut taxes on 95% of working families" stupid? Or was it more "I'll replace tough talk with tough diplomacy" stupid? :)Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87945630392396184032008-09-10T18:05:00.000-05:002008-09-10T18:05:00.000-05:00http://stubbornfacts.us/blog/simonNo cussing on yo...http://stubbornfacts.us/blog/simon<BR/><BR/>No cussing on your blog Simon!? You're more of an old maid than Althouse!UWS guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01277557128674527225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56914381129394263262008-09-10T18:04:00.000-05:002008-09-10T18:04:00.000-05:00He didn't say a damn thing about PalinContext, Bet...<I>He didn't say a damn thing about Palin</I><BR/><BR/>Context, Beth. People were already talking about her "pit bull with lipstick" hockey-mom comment, so mentioning a pig with lipstick in relation to the McCain ticket sounded like a reference to her whether it was meant as one or not.<BR/><BR/><I>Only an opportunistic, harebrained play of the sexism card can make that about Palin.</I><BR/><BR/>If women only got outraged about real sexism the world would be a very different place. Intended or not, Obama's remark was no less plausibly sexist than George Allen's "Macaca" remark was plausibly racist.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85128658315799250492008-09-10T17:48:00.000-05:002008-09-10T17:48:00.000-05:00Because Cliff and Norm would do a better job than ...<I>Because Cliff and Norm would do a better job than Barry and Joe.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, no, they wouldn't. That's just stupid. Deeply, deeply stupid. Playground stupid. I know you are but what am I stupid. The sort of stupid that makes a person wonder what the fuck am I doing writing stupid little notes in response to immensely stupid little comments on the internet? Thanks for the reality check.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11775763767119280702008-09-10T17:42:00.000-05:002008-09-10T17:42:00.000-05:00When McCain said that about Clinton's plan, he was...<I>When McCain said that about Clinton's plan, he was quite clearly referring to her plan, not to her.</I><BR/><BR/>Simon, watch the clip. He didn't say a damn thing about Palin - he called McCain's claim of the "change" meme putting lipstick on a pig. Only an opportunistic, harebrained play of the sexism card can make that about Palin.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3916720906314371032008-09-10T17:39:00.000-05:002008-09-10T17:39:00.000-05:00Alpha, if you really want a longer, more detailed ...Alpha, if you really want a longer, more detailed take, <A HREF="http://stubbornfacts.us/politics/2008_election/the_boar_war" REL="nofollow">I wrote a post just for you</A>.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065798213115341398noreply@blogger.com