tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2016242281617189587..comments2024-03-28T09:21:31.369-05:00Comments on Althouse: "The hacker said that he read all of the e-mails in the Palin account and found 'nothing incriminating...'"Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger103125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49262680953647879712008-09-19T11:57:00.000-05:002008-09-19T11:57:00.000-05:00Have I mentioned before that Glenn Reynolds is an ...Have I mentioned before that Glenn Reynolds is an idiot?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38135906760187471712008-09-19T07:41:00.000-05:002008-09-19T07:41:00.000-05:00Hmmmm."How do we know the hacker was really anti-P...Hmmmm.<BR/><BR/>"<I>How do we know the hacker was really anti-Palin? Why take his assertions at face value? I'm focusing on the strong and helpful assertion that he's read it all and that there is "nothing incriminating," everything is perfectly fine. Isn't that convenient? Why don't we start suspecting that the hacker was pro-Palin?</I>"<BR/><BR/>This passes for logic in law school?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4441996050152741842008-09-19T07:10:00.000-05:002008-09-19T07:10:00.000-05:00garage mahal said No one is a bit bothered by the ...garage mahal said <I>No one is a bit bothered by the fact the First Dude sits in on state meetings, is involved with public policy, and gets copied in on state business emails?</I><BR/><BR/>After the Clinton Co-Presidency, I'm stunned that even you would have the chutzpa to ask such a question.<BR/><BR/>Evidently irony is completely lost on you.Hoosier Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12872965118921894534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57076849836301730472008-09-19T06:43:00.000-05:002008-09-19T06:43:00.000-05:00Reading the "hacker"/password-resetter's report ab...Reading the "hacker"/password-resetter's report about the maneuver on the 4chan website, it seems obvious he's only partly politically motivated. He's a self-styled hacker who was desperate for a coup to spread word of in the /b/ community. He practically couldn't help himself, and obviously was in waaay over his head. It's kind of sad. And he obviously is not politically saavy.<BR/><BR/>It's amusing and depressing (in a reassuring kind of way) to read the right-wingers who take THIS episode as grand evidence of the evilness of lefties. A snot-nosed kid, who happens to be the son of a random Dem state-level pol, does a silly web stunt simply because he CAN, and for reasons more hacker-y than wonk-y, and it's evidence that lefties are waaaay worse than the warmongers, gay-bashers, young-Earthers, Wall St. deregulators, and all the other trash out there in GOPperland. Sweet Jebus, these people are insane!<BR/><BR/>Two-bit hackers are the new threat to traditional order! They might exploit your crappy free email account! They show that health-care, peace, and infrastructure are the devil's work!<BR/><BR/>Cut-rate Matthew Brodericks, circa 1983, are the new Willie Horton! You win!WiseGuisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08498518837567919398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71342937484646517662008-09-19T06:24:00.000-05:002008-09-19T06:24:00.000-05:00Did you know that Cheney's staffer David Addington...<I>Did you know that Cheney's staffer David Addington forged Alberto Gonzalez' signature on papers "authorizing" warrantless wiretaing[sic]?</I><BR/>I went to the link you posted earlier. The WaPo article which was its source said he typed a signature line for Gonzalez. You're either an idiot or a liar.Ralph Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915708905660273961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2019663665349056382008-09-19T05:56:00.000-05:002008-09-19T05:56:00.000-05:00THIS sounds like a job for . . .Nonsense Rhyme Che...<I>THIS</I> sounds like a job for . . .<BR/>Nonsense Rhyme Cheerleader Man!!!<BR/>(a copyrighted feature of this broadcast):<BR/><BR/>Close the door, kitchen floor, hands as cold as ice,<BR/>Shine the shoe, paint it blue, walk around like mice. <BR/><BR/>Gooooooooooooo TEAM!Bissagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04439910009646381418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77249402667891718962008-09-19T05:38:00.000-05:002008-09-19T05:38:00.000-05:00"Why don't we start suspecting that the hacker was..."Why don't we start suspecting that the hacker was pro-Palin?"<BR/><BR/>Because it's bordering on irrational?rightwingprofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12419372059353408855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76593152533753638722008-09-19T01:09:00.000-05:002008-09-19T01:09:00.000-05:00I'm pretty sure AlpahLiberal was the hacker.I'm pretty sure AlpahLiberal was the hacker.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205752419540502278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23738969860318346022008-09-19T00:57:00.000-05:002008-09-19T00:57:00.000-05:00"I believe the hacker was known to be a radical le...<I>"I believe the hacker was known to be a radical leftist before this incident."<BR/><BR/>Really? How do you know that if you don't know who the hacker is?</I><BR/><BR/>I guess we only have his statements to go on for now, my mistake. Anyway, if the person is caught, there is likely to be a history of their political inclinations available on myspace or something.Ben Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11428434557866427164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57076163684262218062008-09-19T00:38:00.000-05:002008-09-19T00:38:00.000-05:00"I believe the hacker was known to be a radical le..."I believe the hacker was known to be a radical leftist before this incident."<BR/><BR/>Really? How do you know that if you don't know who the hacker is? <BR/><BR/>Unless you have information you should be sharing with investigators. <BR/><BR/>Remember when they were all sure Richard Jewell did the Atlanta bombing? That was a sure thing. Until they found the person who did it.AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59909667095381230552008-09-19T00:32:00.000-05:002008-09-19T00:32:00.000-05:00Rose, we're not jumping to conclusions like the ri...Rose, we're not jumping to conclusions like the right wing, no. <BR/><BR/>What do want, though? It's an obvious bad thing and it's obvious people shouldn't do it. <BR/><BR/>But it was episodic, one episode. That is quite a bit different than a whole government wiretapping and email reading program that Republicans illegally put in place. <BR/><BR/>Did you know that Cheney's staffer David Addington forged Alberto Gonzalez' signature on papers "authorizing" warrantless wiretaing?<BR/><BR/>You guys don't care about forgery and violations of the Constitution. Just having a diversion from your campaigns' horrible week. <BR/><BR/>Here's hoping for another McCain gaffe tomorrow to round out the week.AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44825185072979866782008-09-19T00:29:00.000-05:002008-09-19T00:29:00.000-05:00I believe the hacker was known to be a radical lef...I believe the hacker was known to be a radical leftist before this incident.Ben Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11428434557866427164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78762382436536859912008-09-19T00:25:00.000-05:002008-09-19T00:25:00.000-05:00Here we go again.Let's have the same five people (...Here we go again.<BR/><BR/>Let's have the same five people (well, maybe two people and three shell scripts) run this thread to 500+ comments with the same same same same same<BR/><BR/>talking <BR/><BR/>points <BR/><BR/>and <BR/><BR/>d<BR/>r<BR/>i<BR/><BR/>v<BR/><BR/>e<BR/><BR/><BR/>lAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69758398775105035752008-09-19T00:19:00.000-05:002008-09-19T00:19:00.000-05:00Well. I don't want anyone hacking into my emails. ...Well. I don't want anyone hacking into my emails. Emails should come under the same protection that a piece of snail mail does.<BR/><BR/>The "progressives" and dems have been screeching about Bush violating their privacy and listening in on their phone calls for years now - yet they are remarkably silent on this, a very real violation of privacy.<BR/><BR/>I want to hear the outrage. I suspect it will be crickets.<BR/><BR/>That said, you shouldn't put anything in an email that could cause you embarrassment down the road. Emails live forever, you don't know who they get forwarded to, or who prints them out. Not to mention interception in cyberspace. Since they found nothing incriminating, maybe she knows that full well.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14023852057418281003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87348915306885432792008-09-18T23:55:00.000-05:002008-09-18T23:55:00.000-05:00McCain - Bush...at the hip.In private late Tuesday...McCain - Bush...at the hip.<BR/><BR/>In private late Tuesday evening, the McCain campaign circulated a draft statement on the Wall Street crisis that attacked the Bush administration for a slow and "inconsistent" response, and charged that executives at several financial firms had made "misleading and false" statements.<BR/><BR/>But the criticism never appeared. After being circulated not only among McCain aides but also major campaign donors who have worked in the investment industry, the language was softened.<BR/><BR/>The official McCain statement released Wednesday morning made no mention of the Bush administration, instead accusing management and speculators of "creat[ing] this mess."Robertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134027971098573102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26156005061148366092008-09-18T23:53:00.000-05:002008-09-18T23:53:00.000-05:00AlphaLiberal strikes again!!! Hahaha!AlphaLiberal strikes again!!! Hahaha!Masterasiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09106902444314080881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33261183935946537442008-09-18T23:52:00.000-05:002008-09-18T23:52:00.000-05:00"Why was she and others in her administration usin..."Why was she and others in her administration using personal emails to conduct Government business??"<BR/><BR/>Because they thought they could evade the open records laws and run government in secret. <BR/><BR/>And they were probably inspired by the Cheney-Bush Administration doing this and "losing" 10s of thousands of emails, in violation of the Presidential Records Act.<BR/><BR/>Why else would Sarah Palin do so much state business on her personal email accounts?<BR/><BR/>I think I'll change my handle to Neo.AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79498624339120716272008-09-18T23:49:00.000-05:002008-09-18T23:49:00.000-05:00Michael The Magnificent flashes his deep grasp of ...Michael The Magnificent flashes his deep grasp of historic fact:<BR/><I>How do we know that the DNC wasn't behind the Watergate break-in, just to make Nixon look bad?</I><BR/><BR/>You'll have to ask G. Gordon Liddy. From Wikipedia:<BR/><BR/><I>For his role in Watergate, which he coordinated with Hunt, Liddy was convicted of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping, and received a 20-year sentence. He served a total of five and half years in prison, including over 100 days in solitary confinement, before his sentence was commuted by President Jimmy Carter and he was released on September 7, 1977. </I><BR/><BR/>Sometimes around here I feel like that guy Neo from The Matrix fighting the bad guys with sunglasses and suits. But not because I'm especially fast exactly...AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37572869795979356542008-09-18T23:48:00.000-05:002008-09-18T23:48:00.000-05:00Who gives a flying fuck about Palin's sacred email...Who gives a flying fuck about Palin's sacred emails?<BR/><BR/>She lies through her teeth every day of the week and most here talk about her as if she was the Virgin Mary.<BR/><BR/>Here's an interesting question for the Palin-lovers: Why was she and others in her administration using personal emails to conduct Government business??<BR/><BR/>And why won't she and others adhere to her promise to allow an open-ended investigation?<BR/><BR/>Hide and watch...Robertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134027971098573102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64845289206942906432008-09-18T23:44:00.000-05:002008-09-18T23:44:00.000-05:00Victoria rants:Hope they throw this kid in gaol.A ...Victoria rants:<BR/><I>Hope they throw this kid in gaol.</I><BR/><BR/>A gaol is too good for him, I tell ya. <BR/><BR/>And would you like to bother with <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_process" REL="nofollow">any sort of trial</A>, show or otherwise, before we throw this kid into a gaol?<BR/><BR/>Or have you considered all the evidence to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt?AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41560058271844139472008-09-18T23:39:00.000-05:002008-09-18T23:39:00.000-05:00Here it is, from Greenwald,If Sarah Palin isn't co...Here it is, from Greenwald,<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/18/privacy/index.html" REL="nofollow">If Sarah Palin isn't committing crimes or consorting with The Terrorists, then why would she care if we can monitor her emails?</A><BR/><BR/>Thanks, Glenn. You're great.AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58253088273776060182008-09-18T23:33:00.000-05:002008-09-18T23:33:00.000-05:00Look, her email was hacked. We all agree that was ...Look, her email was hacked. We all agree that was wrong, the perp should be punished and the law enforced. And we don't know who the perp is and can't make assumptions. <BR/><BR/>What more do you want? That's all obvious. Stop yer whining.<BR/><BR/>And Gawker is a for-profit web site. They got a bunch of traffic publishing those emails. And rain is wet. <BR/><BR/>As Glenn Greenwald has noted, it's funny that the Right is in a lather over this because you're so eager to have the government snooping into our emails. <BR/><BR/>Sarah Palin shouldn't have anything to hide, right?AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31961199830007871282008-09-18T23:29:00.000-05:002008-09-18T23:29:00.000-05:00It's not clear whether the taped confession McCain...<I>It's not clear whether the taped confession McCain gave to his captors to avoid further torture has played a role in his postwar behavior. That confession was played endlessly over the prison loudspeaker system at Hoa Lo--to try to break down other prisoners--and was broadcast over Hanoi's state radio. Reportedly, he confessed to being a war criminal who had bombed a school and other civilian targets. The Pentagon has copies of the confessions but will not release them. Also, no outsider I know of has ever seen a nonredacted copy of McCain's debriefing when he returned from captivity, which is classified but can be made public by McCain. </I><BR/><BR/>Yes. These records should probably be released. <BR/><BR/>After all, it was vital to the 2004 election that Kerry's military records be released from the same war. If we're being sold a bill of goods on the POW story, we should know.<BR/><BR/>This story is really causing me to reconsider my views on the POW story. I'd always thought it was people nursing grudges. If there were POW's left there all that time it must have been terrible.AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3772486090626985462008-09-18T23:22:00.000-05:002008-09-18T23:22:00.000-05:00@althouse: "And yet, what we're told was found abs...@althouse: "And yet, what we're told was found absolves her of the charge that she's done something wrong."<BR/><BR/>Whose charge?<BR/><BR/>What charge?<BR/><BR/>"what we're told"? You mean what the person who hacked into her account ILLEGALLY said.<BR/><BR/>How about all the emails and photos the moonbat site gawker.com posted? Or are they "in on it" too?<BR/><BR/>"something wrong": under a criminal code? Parental abuse? Left the moose stew in the cooker too long?<BR/><BR/>If this is your idea of analysis and probing, I pity your poor students. <BR/><BR/>Your inane comments are dangerously close to Ward Churchillism. <BR/><BR/>What you've left out, of course, is the illegal invasion of Palin's privacy. After all the bleating the left has engaged in over the FISA controversy, it is amazing how cavalierly you gloss over a real, not imagined, assault on a public person's private life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65014404367115349492008-09-18T23:19:00.000-05:002008-09-18T23:19:00.000-05:00whoa. "McCain, whose POW status made him the commi...whoa. <BR/><BR/>"McCain, whose POW status made him the committee's most powerful member, attended that hearing specifically to confront Alfond because of her criticism of the panel's work. He bellowed and berated her for quite a while. His face turning anger-pink, he accused her of "denigrating" his "patriotism." The bullying had its effect--she began to cry.<BR/><BR/>After a pause Alfond recovered and tried to respond to his scorching tirade, but McCain simply turned and stormed out of the room. The PAVE SPIKE file has never been declassified. We still don't know anything about those 20 POWs. "<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081006/schanberg" REL="nofollow">That's awkward.</A> All around.AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.com