tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post1806111575109191426..comments2024-03-19T04:42:41.038-05:00Comments on Althouse: Should Nickelodeon cancel "Zoey 101" to teach young kids a lesson about teen pregnancy?Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger266125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45055844278125723962008-02-05T17:37:00.000-06:002008-02-05T17:37:00.000-06:00no definitly not this shows kids they should do wh...no definitly not this shows kids they should do what they want n all you people just want your kids to be perfect and know everything imagine they was n evry1 was perfect no1 would have anything to do in this so fucked up world when u all were kids u had it best u fucked up this world. my cousin is 9 she come to me wen i was discussing jamies situation n she sadi, i think zoey is brave because she made a big mistake n decided to put it right by making the right decision unlike her sister did she made a mistake n put it behind her allways soon enuff she was making mistakes all the time n this suprised me a 9 year old putting my mom and i straight shes pretty cool my niese whose 7 said i dont want zoey to leave i think it gives growing boy's and girls an oppertunity to pick what goes on in their life i kno u people care about ur kids but maybee abit too much take a while to think has anybody in ur family been pregnant before marriage or maybee even before the age of 18-20 you people are so fucked up im just giving my opinion like everybody else maybe you should ask your kids what they think of nick taking zoey of off air for good then put in ur opinion most of u people want what you want for ur kids not actually what they think u people r so fucked up man life is a bitch n no i wouldn't marry one trust this world is shit i wouldn't even want my kids to grow up in it it's not good enough for them i hope i have got through to youluke hoganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05396896017106260335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35872119902878991772008-01-05T22:56:00.000-06:002008-01-05T22:56:00.000-06:00Hi about "Zoey 101" I can't believe there are peop...Hi about "Zoey 101" I can't believe there are people on here calling this girl stupid!! Were do they live? in a bubble? there is kids out there haveing babys everyday.Instead of hidding our own kids from sex we should be talking to them when they come to us for questions.if the parents don't they learn it from school or by doing it then it's to late.We don't know the hole story about Zoey and we should'nt believe everything we hear.it might of been her frist time and had protection,but i don't think everyone on here is actting like an adult.we should be talking to our kids maybe have her do a show about teen sex.not put her down.this is Evans MOM Maybe you should look in a mirror.Evan15https://www.blogger.com/profile/03275948016611923172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73692839574029918792008-01-05T21:56:00.000-06:002008-01-05T21:56:00.000-06:00Dont take zoey 101 off just becues jamie is pregna...Dont take zoey 101 off just becues jamie is pregnat. ever little kid loves her and the show so there is no need to take it off becues it just showing that the parents that let there kid view the show can just talk to there kids about it not just tell them to trun the channel or turn off the tv why so she is pregnet and she plays in zoey 101. (a nother thang whats the big deal about her being 16 and being pregnet there is 1000 or more people that get pregnet at that age so there is no need to pick on her about it just let her be she is a person like everone ells.) my name is Evan and im 15.Evan15https://www.blogger.com/profile/03275948016611923172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42463940619081132932008-01-01T16:44:00.000-06:002008-01-01T16:44:00.000-06:00My kids love the show too, but it needs to be taki...My kids love the show too, but it needs to be taking off. My 12 yr old daughter does not need that kind of role model. There is enough of it going on in the world....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02146764044769310830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6131099805936398162008-01-01T16:09:00.002-06:002008-01-01T16:09:00.002-06:00NO ,Do not take Zoey 101 off of nickelodeon Plea...NO ,Do not take Zoey 101 off of nickelodeon Please !!!!!!!!! what about kids we all love Zoey 101 . can't we all work together to keep Zoey 101 on nickelodeon .Yes Zoey has a baby but my kid love's the show.lide456https://www.blogger.com/profile/10893838575681902900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56172039516172876812008-01-01T16:09:00.001-06:002008-01-01T16:09:00.001-06:00NO ,Do not take Zoey 101 off of nickelodeon Plea...NO ,Do not take Zoey 101 off of nickelodeon Please !!!!!!!!! what about kids we all love Zoey 101 . can't we all work together to keep Zoey 101 on nickelodeon .Yes Zoey has a baby but my kid love's the show.lide456https://www.blogger.com/profile/10893838575681902900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26647834517384689262008-01-01T16:09:00.000-06:002008-01-01T16:09:00.000-06:00NO ,Do not take Zoey 101 off of nickelodeon Plea...NO ,Do not take Zoey 101 off of nickelodeon Please !!!!!!!!! what about kids we all love Zoey 101 . can't we all work together to keep Zoey 101 on nickelodeon .Yes Zoey has a baby but my kid love's the show.lide456https://www.blogger.com/profile/10893838575681902900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62576717158772687072007-12-28T13:48:00.000-06:002007-12-28T13:48:00.000-06:00I do think Brittney is really stupid but Jamie Lyn...I do think Brittney is really stupid but Jamie Lynn nedds help right now.Lemon Hearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02406317028581425466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1532431286281265962007-12-28T07:47:00.000-06:002007-12-28T07:47:00.000-06:00I feel that they should take the show OFF THE AIR....I feel that they should take the show OFF THE AIR.<BR/><BR/>She would be setting a bad example and the fact is 2/3 of teen mothers NEVER graduate high school and only 1.5% of them obtain a college degree by age 30.Kym Lu Tuanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857754359749529233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90250150724052629532007-12-27T21:57:00.000-06:002007-12-27T21:57:00.000-06:00The common American parent tries & tries to teach ...The common American parent tries & tries to teach both sons & daughters to try to think before we do. Do the Spears tell there children to "just do". My daughters are very bright that they will no longer watch any Zoey 101 shows. i would not let them anyways but, we all feel that the producers of Zoey 101 need to cancel the show or make her lines go to a new Zoey. It's easy to re-cast her part of the show. i am getting rid of every Zoey 101 item in my house. The Nick network is a kids network that should be safe at all times. Now they are thinking of doing a teen pregnancy show. Give it a rest already. We'll stick with the Disney channel if this is what Nick is coming down toMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15628864138948283137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35689104081257054332007-12-25T17:05:00.000-06:002007-12-25T17:05:00.000-06:00Mary got pregnant by immacualte conception...She d...Mary got pregnant by immacualte conception...She didn't have sex with Joseph in order to birth the Savior of this world...So unless Jamie-Lynn is carrying the Messiah...There's no comparison!!!redeemed010205https://www.blogger.com/profile/07294595876584522826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30078926691248135002007-12-23T18:10:00.000-06:002007-12-23T18:10:00.000-06:00Zoey has to take no blame for what Jamie Lynn does...Zoey has to take no blame for what Jamie Lynn does. Zoey 101 is one of the best shows for girls ages 9 to 14 and she should just take a break and start filming after the baby is born. It isn't our business what she does even if she is in the public eye. It's her business and if she's happy then let her be happy taking care of a baby at 16. They should NOT cancel the show. They should do a special about teen pregnancy though.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00631941951419614782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74426622214955131562007-12-22T16:10:00.000-06:002007-12-22T16:10:00.000-06:00I think it would be very irresponsible for Nick to...I think it would be very irresponsible for Nick to leave her on this show to air. My young 12 year old daughter watches this show and for a pregnant 16 to be a role model for her " I don't think so ", that is like saying she did it so why can't I. I am all for forgiveness, but there are some things that shouldn't be paraded around as a good idea. There has got to be consequences for her actions being that she is a role model for young girls. That isn't the type of role model that I want my children seeing. If she stays on this show then my children will never watch it again.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02146764044769310830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40055719827718399812007-12-22T14:03:00.000-06:002007-12-22T14:03:00.000-06:00Pogo, so is Yoko Onanism sex with someone only Joh...Pogo, so is Yoko Onanism sex with someone only John Lennon could love?Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29481542764488658282007-12-22T11:34:00.000-06:002007-12-22T11:34:00.000-06:00Rev: Fen, humans have never (in recorded history, ...Rev: <I>Fen, humans have never (in recorded history, at least), "died naturally at 40". The average human lifespan used to be a lot lower, but not because we died of old age earlier.</I><BR/><BR/>Ah okay. Ignorant train of thought on my part. Thanks for being gentle. ;)Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9061662345242606192007-12-22T09:17:00.000-06:002007-12-22T09:17:00.000-06:00hmm...it's funny, because my daughter and I were j...hmm...it's funny, because my daughter and I were just watching Zoey 101 the day before this announcement came out. She was telling me how much better Jamie Lynn was, and how much she looked up to her. The next day she just sighed. She's 13. She knows about sex. She knows about the consequences. She knows about peer pressure. And she was disappointed.<BR/><BR/>I think they should either replace her or cancel the show. I'd love it if they could use this entire affair as an object lesson, but Zoey 101 is a comedy, not a serious search into teen issues. There's nothing comedic about a 16 year old getting pregnant and becoming a single mother. And Zoey101 is not the forum to discuss this issue.<BR/><BR/>With that said, I think, considering the environment that Jamie Lynn has been subjected to, with her very strange mother, and her off-the-rocker sister, well, I think we should really be praying that someone comes along who can offer her wise counsel. Just because she's pregnant, doesn't make her life a loss. She's still young enough to live a full, good life, even with this mistake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15793558191874328592007-12-22T08:27:00.000-06:002007-12-22T08:27:00.000-06:00We could ban adolescence--the ever-expanding psych...We could ban adolescence--the ever-expanding psychologist-invented period between childhood and adulthood that lasts in our culture from puberty to about age twenty-five or at least five years past college graduation--except for Bill Clinton and many of his co-boomers, where adolescence extends into the sixties.<BR/><BR/>If, like the rest of the animal kingdom, human adulthood was defined as the ability to make babies and we expected--and allowed--adult behavior in these young adults, perhaps these "kids" (who are fighting our wars) would not make so many childish mistakes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56382212176420162482007-12-22T07:59:00.000-06:002007-12-22T07:59:00.000-06:00I have spent the better part of an hour reading al...I have spent the better part of an hour reading all these comments so it’s questionable whether I can add anything of value.<BR/><BR/>First, the biblical stuff – God’s message to Joseph on how he was to treat Mary was a foreshadowing of Jesus’ ministry of grace and forgiveness. Joseph overlooked Mary’s apparent sin and accepted her as his wife. Jesus ministered to adulterers, tax collectors, and other unclean sorts. He forgave them and instructed them to go and sin no more. The boundless mercy of God imputed by faith in Jesus’ sacrifice is the foundation of the Christian faith.<BR/><BR/>Second, what Nickelodeon should do – I wish that they would use Jamie Lynn’s pregnancy as an object lesson, with a realistic depiction of teen pregnancy. If they showed what it is really like it could be educational. Jamie Lynn could buy unattractive second-hand maternity clothes instead of the latest fashions, or baby supplies instead of a CD she wants; remodel a depressing basement into a room for her and the baby, or rent a cheap apartment in a bad neighborhood; sit at home alone while her friends attend concerts and parties, etc. The average non-celebrity girl may not realize the costs of becoming a young single parent – no money, reduced educational and professional opportunities, loss of freedom and social interaction, and the heavy burden of responsibility for another human being. It shouldn’t be so negative as to encourage abortion as an easy solution, but the message would be that teen pregnancy is far from an ideal outcome. <BR/><BR/>Third, on social and religious stigma – I became pregnant when I was eighteen, in 1979. I married the father and had another child with him before we divorced after nine years because of his unfaithfulness. I could have had a more successful and prosperous life if I had not had a baby at that age. I gave up a full college scholarship after two years to work and help support my family. I became more responsible and unselfish than I would have otherwise, but my children would be better off if they had been born when I was older. My parents and my church accepted my situation and their love sustained me, in spite of the disgrace I felt, of not living up to their expectations. There is no contradiction between condemning irresponsible sex, and supporting a young woman for whom pregnancy is already a reality.Omaha1https://www.blogger.com/profile/17906834802115018347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13242683852919318852007-12-22T07:34:00.000-06:002007-12-22T07:34:00.000-06:00madawaskan said... Wow unbelievable. I swear that ...<I> madawaskan said... <BR/>Wow unbelievable. I swear that Conservatives would rather condemn and feel morally superior rather than END ABORTION.</I><BR/><BR/>First, as they say, my street creds: I am the father of 5 boys (12-22) and the grandfather of a 3 year old girl. My son and the baby's mother were not married, didn't marry and have now drifted on to other relationships.<BR/><BR/>So far the child has progressed well. She lived, until recently (mom just moved into her own apartment) with her mother and her maternal grandparents, and spent considerable time with her father at our house (and still does). Fortunately, both parents were of age, and have had constant support from their parents.<BR/><BR/>Is this the case in all instances of unwed pregnancy? I don't think so, and it is hard, if not disasterous, for the child and its unwed parents.<BR/><BR/>Do I condemn Jamie Lynn for her actions? No. I wish (as with my granddaughter) that events had happened differently, but condemnation is God's job, not mine. <BR/><BR/>The trouble is, and I think I saw this mentioned earlier, we are focusing on the baby's parents, and not the baby. If I had the power I would will that no child would be conceived outside of a loving, committed relationship. God has that power, and choose not to use it; I bow to his wisdom.<BR/><BR/>If God has chosen to bless a couple, whether they be a pair of 40 year olds working aginst the clock for their first, or a couple of teenagers fooling around in the backseat, that child needs to be loved and adored as the gift from God that they are; throwing that gift away in an abortion clinic is not only a slap on the face of God, but a destruction of your own future. How anyone can hold a newborn baby and not feel the power of both God and humanity is beyond me, and I easily equate performers of such atrocities as elective abortion with other genocidists, and will call them evil.<BR/><BR/>What happens to the child is key; numerous studies have been done that show causal links between single parent households and delinquency and crime. We, as a society, need to limit those single parent households, not encourage them. We need to walk a fine line between supporting unwed mothers, for the sake of the children, and condeming & preventing unwed births for the sake of society- but that prevention does not include the infanticide of abortion.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for the long rant here, but I hope this explains why I don't believe abortion can even be considered an option to a viable child in caring society.An Edjamikated Redneckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881476802902468670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34398725349421055812007-12-22T05:13:00.000-06:002007-12-22T05:13:00.000-06:00The consequences aren't disastrous because they lo...<I>The consequences aren't disastrous because they loved and wanted sex when they were teens. They were disastrous because their families tried to prevent it. And Juliet's parents were trying to marry her off to a much older man, even though she didn't want it. Good lord, how can you distort the meaning of the play like that to make it fit your point?</I><BR/><BR/>Shakespeare in general, <A HREF="http://home.att.net/~rhhardin4/cavell.privacy.txt" REL="nofollow"> Stanley Cavell</A> on the shift caused by the advent of the enlightenment, which was the crisis of his time (and the beginning of our time) ; one effect, the shift to romantically desired marriage, and a shift in the idea of privacy.rhhardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06901742898653890646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30224378180131629492007-12-22T02:26:00.000-06:002007-12-22T02:26:00.000-06:00"Should Nickelodeon cancel "Zoey 101" to teach you..."Should Nickelodeon cancel "Zoey 101" to teach young kids a lesson about teen pregnancy?"<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure if it has been mentioned (didn't bother reading the thread) but I read that the so far unaired fourth season was already set to be the show's last season so the question is moot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24715281635010818942007-12-21T21:18:00.000-06:002007-12-21T21:18:00.000-06:00Also...Ever since the very first time that society...Also...<BR/><BR/>Ever since the very first time that society understood that traits were heritable people have been worried about the wrong people reproducing too much.<BR/><BR/>The problem, and potential for evil, is that we are prone to take that truth and scientific understanding and run with it without much more guidance than our own prejudice for what is heritable and what is not and how it all really works.<BR/><BR/>It's not racist, in an of itself, for Cedarford to point out that some segments of our populations reproduce and other segments do not. Nor is it racist to point out that traits are heritable.<BR/><BR/>Maybe that's why I don't get all offended and upset when I hear it. Besides, it seems that ignoring what is true is one way to make sure that what is *not* true never gets debated.<BR/><BR/>Eugenics is one of those things that are self-evidently true. Being shocked and offended by eugenics isn't useful in any way at all.<BR/><BR/>What *isn't* self-evidently true is that poor people have poorer genes, be it in Singapore or in the United States. <BR/><BR/>In my small school where everyone knew everybody I never saw the correlation. Some of the families that would count by some as "trash" had children that were exceptionally bright, ADHD, little monsters that all got into drugs or at least alcohol, raced cars, and eventually worked hard and never got much of anywhere.<BR/><BR/>They had children young or knocked up their girlfriends, usually kept the children with the help of parents who hadn't done so well the first time around parenting either. They had close families, lots of friends, and drank lots of beer. If no one got arrested for anything serious that was a bonus.<BR/><BR/>So... is the population as a whole less smart because of who was breeding a couple of generations while the "bright" kids from stable families went to college and eventually decided their biological clocks demanded reproduction now or never so they had one or two children?<BR/><BR/>I don't think so. I don't see it. Some of the kids from "good" families who did well enough in school did so on effort alone and certainly not creativity or smarts. But at least they didn't have babies while they were teenagers and unmarried, hm?<BR/><BR/>Moreover, the idea of bright people marrying bright people and having bright kids doesn't seem to work all that well in real life. We end up with high rates of asbergers or autism and we don't know why.<BR/><BR/>Kids don't drop out of school because they aren't smart. Some drop out of school because they *are* smart and can't deal with the stupid. Not wise, maybe. Not from stable families, maybe. But we're not talking wisdom or family culture, we're talking *genes* and inherited intelligence.Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53502213040104508762007-12-21T21:08:00.000-06:002007-12-21T21:08:00.000-06:00Synova,GREAT post! And thats all I have to say abo...Synova,<BR/><BR/>GREAT post! And thats all I have to say about Zoey 101.zzRonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12619433409918784377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31883948693018616112007-12-21T21:05:00.000-06:002007-12-21T21:05:00.000-06:00Synova, Yeah, actually, I think the homeschoolin...Synova,<BR/><BR/> Yeah, actually, I think the homeschooling issue takes a lot of the conformist peer-pressure type influence out.<BR/><BR/> Home-schooled kids are way more likely to look at a current pop star or fad and say, "That looks stupid." And say so because they think so, rather than because they're trying to impress someone.<BR/><BR/> I could make the same comment about schools that I did about the nightly news: No good can come of exposing your kids to it.blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05430444326700437630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62429130411515805372007-12-21T20:52:00.000-06:002007-12-21T20:52:00.000-06:00A hundred eighty five dollars, Joanie, a hundred e...A hundred eighty five dollars, Joanie, a hundred eighty five! That much of a sucker for reindeer I'm not. But thanks for the thought.ricpichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01321511130788764861noreply@blogger.com