tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post1482761472790398918..comments2024-03-28T20:14:01.928-05:00Comments on Althouse: Bin Laden was not buried at sea.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger130125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9117932152146910832012-03-06T22:57:27.241-06:002012-03-06T22:57:27.241-06:00@Curious George
Absurd is thinking more than 2 pe...@Curious George<br /><br />Absurd is thinking more than 2 people can keep a secret if they are both alive.<br /><br />So your position is Seal team VI, after a black insertion into a semi-hostile country, killing or capturing the most wanted terrorist in the world, having their super secret stealth helicopter shot out from under them, fly back to their carrier base with said dead/captured terrorist, stash his corpse/person somewhere in the bowels of the ship, just happen to have a dead body for the ships doctors to examine(cause if you don't think he was examined I don't know what to say to you), then wrap the fake body up in a sheet and dump it overboard with no one, absolutely no one on the ship knowing? Seal team VI is good son, but only at one thing, going into the deep blue, killing whoever needs to be dead, and getting out without getting caught. This ain't a Mission Impossible episode.Carnifexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12561390087899686588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80683538274628816632012-03-06T21:51:13.352-06:002012-03-06T21:51:13.352-06:00Aw comeone guys, you really think our government g...Aw comeone guys, you really think our government gives a fig for just how Bin Laden is ACTUALLY buried?<br /><br />How would anyone prove it wasn't buried at sea? How? Heck Obama could have mummified Bin Laden's head and stuck it on his fireplace mantel.<br /><br />The buried at sea shtick was just a way to make everyone let go of using his body as a shrine.<br /><br />No one in the USA gives a fig how that SOB was buried, if at all.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11635784352780834494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32179842370146640352012-03-06T21:06:19.658-06:002012-03-06T21:06:19.658-06:00"Or is it at Area 51?"
More likely, the..."Or is it at Area 51?"<br /><br />More likely, the head is in someone"s freezer in the USA and other body parts occupy various juju bags wherever.David R. Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416692639208634879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10352769990248573532012-03-06T20:36:45.488-06:002012-03-06T20:36:45.488-06:00"The guy evaded US capture for 10 years. I...<i>"The guy evaded US capture for 10 years. I'd want to know everything about him...."</i><br /><br />Assuming they killed him and dumped him in the drink, as claimed, it may be that they were less interested in finding out what he could tell them than in making sure he couldn't spill any sensitive beans about past operations in which he cooperated with the CIA and American forces. Maybe he had stuff on people that those people didn't want got by anybody else.<br /><br />After all, it's obvious our government doesn't really give a damn about extinguishing Al Qaeda or learning what their plans are. Hell, Al Qaeda doesn't pose any real threat to the American mainland, and there's probably not much left of them at this point. <br /><br />Al Qaeda's value is entirely as an all-purpose boogeyman that can be used to justify any military budget increases, any military expenditures and weapons procurements, and, most important, any outrages against our Constitution and civil liberties that those in office may choose to inflict. <br /><br />This is not about protecting us from an outside enemy; this is about exerting greater and greater internal control over the American people while projecting perpetual military force externally, in search of new resources to plunder.Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56993235213128235632012-03-06T19:52:53.918-06:002012-03-06T19:52:53.918-06:00This tale is so unlikely to be true. The "val...<i>This tale is so unlikely to be true. The "value" of having his body is near zero while the downside PR risk of creating a martyr is catastrophic. <br /><br />The burial at sea was perfect. Yes, even the CIA can get it right once in a while.</i><br /><br />Really? I thought the really unlikely story was that we spent ten years hunting this guy, killed him one night and a few hours later he's buried at sea. No photos released, no proof at all. <br /><br />It's like Bush announcing in 2006 "Yeah, we found Saddam's WMDs in Baghdad last night, but they were so dangerous we disposed of them immediately. Sorry, no photos."<br /><br />I'm not one much for conspiracy theories, but I tend to lean toward the theory that OBL was captured alive.Blue@9https://www.blogger.com/profile/16371286571496793710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38781047418722799232012-03-06T19:35:26.416-06:002012-03-06T19:35:26.416-06:00If his body was brought back here, I'm sure he...If his body was brought back here, I'm sure he received a respectful burial in a hog lot somewhere.Bildohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354972757908963310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68257949285651728082012-03-06T18:49:38.054-06:002012-03-06T18:49:38.054-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tiborehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07360541843865827271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12919802334575679092012-03-06T18:28:59.692-06:002012-03-06T18:28:59.692-06:00Hey, do we want to know if his various organs show...Hey, do we want to know if his various organs show signs of radiation exposure? Can we figure out what isotope? Might that same isotope be used to create a dirty bomb? Do his organs show signs of being exposed to toxins or chemicals that could be weaponized? <br /><br />This is just low-hanging fruit that I can think of off the top of my head. I would bet the CIA has a lot of other interesting questions that they could answer...D.D. Driverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652277556374392962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59679813264543801252012-03-06T18:20:14.808-06:002012-03-06T18:20:14.808-06:00"What intelligence could we gather from his s..."What intelligence could we gather from his spleen?"<br /><br />Not sure. I'm not claiming to be a doctor. Are you? <br /><br />The spleen is a red herring. Maybe the spleen is significant, maybe not. Are you qualified to say there is no possible way that any organ or tissue would have any investigatory value? <br /><br />The guy evaded US capture for 10 years. I'd want to know everything about him from reconstructing his diet to his exercise regime. And you bet I would want to look at every organ, and see what diseases he may have had while he was on the lam. Find out whether he sought treatment. Try to determine where.D.D. Driverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652277556374392962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39942438030608913822012-03-06T17:44:02.621-06:002012-03-06T17:44:02.621-06:00This tale is so unlikely to be true. The "va...This tale is so unlikely to be true. The "value" of having his body is near zero while the downside PR risk of creating a martyr is catastrophic. <br /><br />The burial at sea was perfect. Yes, even the CIA can get it right once in a while.F4GIBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12519321991096213331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78157848934064203462012-03-06T17:36:33.125-06:002012-03-06T17:36:33.125-06:00"It would be one thing if the government cond...<i>"It would be one thing if the government conducted a full investigation on the corpse, tissue by tissue, organ by organ, and THEN dumped the body in the ocean. That I could buy. To believe that the government hastily dumped the body in the ocean a mere hours after obtaining it? That would be so foolish that I cannot accept it."</i><br /><br />...tissue by tissue,organ by organ...<br /><br />Let me guess, you deal with OCD issues, right?<br /><br />What intelligence could we gather from his spleen?<br /><br />Or his lungs? O<br /><br />Or his brain?<br /><br />Did it have a USB port?<br /><br />Dude. Let it go.<br /><br />He's dead, thank God (and Seal Team VI).<br /><br />Some sea creatures dined well, and now all that's left of him are the diminishing vestiges of a failed terrorist organization and it's damage.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08248882642756619950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55362221140138945052012-03-06T17:19:00.546-06:002012-03-06T17:19:00.546-06:00phx said...
One live lying asshole lying about a d...phx said...<br />One live lying asshole lying about a dead lying asshole.<br /><br />See. Some people believe it.<br /><br /><br />Not at all.<br />Whether alive or dead it isn't important enough to waste time over.<br />And since, when confronted with a myriad of different scenarios, the simplest explanation is usually the truth.<br />He is an ex terrorist. He is no more. He has joined the choir invisible.<br />he ain't pinen for the fjiords.<br />He is sooo, like, last season.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55294334310930514092012-03-06T15:48:15.862-06:002012-03-06T15:48:15.862-06:00"We could easily be looking at both/and, not ..."We could easily be looking at both/and, not either/or: one body feeding the fishes, and one body on ice in a secure location."<br /><br />This is certainly possible. Perhaps the military harvested all the organs, preserved his head, thoroughly scanned his body for shrapnel, gathered some more tissue and bone samples, and then tossed whatever was left in the ocean. That's possible. <br /><br />But if you are going through that much effort to issue a misleading account of what happened, isn't it simply easier to tell a white lie?D.D. Driverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652277556374392962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90910713428222876022012-03-06T15:21:56.818-06:002012-03-06T15:21:56.818-06:00Whether the report is true or not, radical mullahs...Whether the report is true or not, radical mullahs could say it's true and whip up rioting.Nate Whilkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03309570046510278367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2064570862026697412012-03-06T14:12:54.117-06:002012-03-06T14:12:54.117-06:00I believe it. Now prove me wrong. Can't do it ...I believe it. Now prove me wrong. Can't do it can you?amenhammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01365056647596770434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17355389043187584112012-03-06T14:08:42.032-06:002012-03-06T14:08:42.032-06:00Fake, but accurate? It's not just for progres...Fake, but accurate? It's not just for progressives!<br /><br />D.D. Driver:<br /><br />"It would be one thing if the government conducted a full investigation on the corpse, tissue by tissue, organ by organ, and THEN dumped the body in the ocean."<br /><br />What makes you think they didn't? You don't need a "government" to conduct a post mortem, and I do not doubt that there was an examiner with every necessary tool in hand, virtually waiting on the tarmac for delivery of the corpse. They'd have certainly been prepared to do immediate DNA testing, and they could easily have preserved any, if not all, organs and tissues of interest while technically giving the body a maritime send off. <br /><br />We could easily be looking at both/and, not either/or: one body feeding the fishes, and one body on ice in a secure location.<br /><br />In which case, it could be not so fake, and accurate.JM Haneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01716562692206675312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19656537075623491312012-03-06T13:40:54.892-06:002012-03-06T13:40:54.892-06:00Aack. The original post got caught up in the spam ...Aack. The original post got caught up in the spam filter, so my last comment has no context now. Sorry. It's nothing more than a post refuting the myth of Bin Laden needing dialysis, that's all.Tiborehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07360541843865827271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77283429174113414812012-03-06T13:36:51.771-06:002012-03-06T13:36:51.771-06:00And here's the original column:
http://www.wa...And here's the original column:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/jan/3/20060103-093215-2153r/" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/jan/3/20060103-093215-2153r/</a>Tiborehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07360541843865827271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28579914353615210672012-03-06T13:34:58.433-06:002012-03-06T13:34:58.433-06:00I'm sorry I'm late to the party, but I saw...I'm sorry I'm late to the party, but I saw one thing that needed comment on:<br /><br /><i>"Our intelligence said he had kidney problems. Was that true? If it was true, shouldn't we be oh I don't know CURIOUS if and where he was getting treatment? And what kind of treatment. Don't we want to track down the doctors and talk to them if can? And if it wasn't true, don't we want to know how good our information was and failure was?"</i><br /><br />No, the kidney issue was not true. To wit:<br /><a href="http://www.911myths.com/html/bin_ladin_on_dialysis.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.911myths.com/html/bin_ladin_on_dialysis.html</a><br /><br /><i>"Indian Muslims, Internet gurus, television anchors, and at least one prime minister have said that [Osama] bin Laden has kidney trouble.<br /> So where is the evidence? In short, there is no evidence, just a lot of chatter.<br /> There is only one presumably well-informed source who has gone on the record to say that bin Laden was on dialysis: Pakistani Prime Minister Pervez Musharraf. And he later changed his mind.<br /> At first, Gen. Pervez Musharraf seemed to strongly endorse the notion, in January 2002. "I think now, frankly, he is dead for the reason he is a patient, he is a kidney patient," he told CNN. Gen. Musharraf added, "Pakistan knew bin Laden took two dialysis machines into Afghanistan. One was specifically for his own personal use."<br /> Over the next few years, bin Laden would appear alive and well in a string of audio and video tapes. In December 2004, when Gen. Musharraf again sat down with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, he all but reversed himself.<br /> In fact, there is a mountain of evidence that bin Laden is not on dialysis.<br /> No medical report has been produced that shows bin Laden is on dialysis. No reporter who has actually met bin Laden has seen the archterrorist hooked up to a dialysis machine or heard him talk about it. Robert Fisk, the only Western journalist to interview bin Laden three times, makes no mention of dialysis.<br /> Peter Bergen led a CNN team into Afghanistan to interview bin Laden in 1997. Bin Laden appeared healthy and strong; neither the reporters nor bin Laden mentioned dialysis or kidney trouble.<br /> Even bin Laden's longtime associates dispute the kidney ailment meme. Saudi newspaper editor Khaled Batarfi has known bin Laden for two decades, ever since the two were neighbors in the Saudi port city of Jeddah. He told the Sunday Tasmanian, an Australian newspaper, that bin Laden "does not suffer from kidney disease...</i><br /><br /><i>...Dr. Amer Aziz, a British citizen born in Pakistan, was interrogated by eight CIA and FBI agents, as well as by Pakistani intelligence officers. Strongly sympathetic to radical Islam, Aziz had treated bin Laden for years. He reportedly admitted to visiting bin Laden after the September 11 attacks. Upon his release, he talked freely to Paul Haven of the Associated Press in November 2002. The doctor said he had given bin Laden a "complete physical" in 1999 and treated him for back injuries after bin Laden was thrown from a horse. "His kidneys were fine," the doctor told Mr. Haven. He said "If you're on dialysis, you have a special look. I didn't see any of that," and added that bin Laden "was walking. He was healthy." Aziz was emphatic: "I did not see any evidence of kidney disease; I didn't see any evidence of dialysis."</i><br /><br />Sorry for the long excerpt, but the point is made: The entire Bin Laden on Dialysis thing was just one of those internet rumors.Tiborehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07360541843865827271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24339592121868061732012-03-06T13:29:58.272-06:002012-03-06T13:29:58.272-06:00Andy R(etard) said...
While we're making stuf...<i>Andy R(etard) said...<br /><br />While we're making stuff up, can we get another post about how incandescent light bulbs have been banned?</i><br /><br />Why? Need to refit the one that burned out in your head?Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67627601944467120592012-03-06T13:28:42.296-06:002012-03-06T13:28:42.296-06:00Problem is, is that no believes anything Urkel say...Problem is, is that no believes anything Urkel says or does. Even if it's true, the messenger killed his own credibility not only with his own citizens, but set it up that way when he dithered on his birth certificate nonsense for so long. Not to mention that this master of transparency has done nothing but hide his true intentions for this country. Oh wait.Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89147163991644779932012-03-06T12:59:05.656-06:002012-03-06T12:59:05.656-06:00This just in. New Bin Laden video released by Al J...This just in. New Bin Laden video released by Al Jazeera. In the tape Bin Laden appears in a tent with an AK47 leaning behind him, statesmanlike monotone throughout he taunts the United States present and past administrations and observes what he calls the obvious destruction of the United States which will continuine apace God willing.<br /><br />In the tape Bin Laden cites current events in Middle East and analysts are studying the tape for editing to pin down the date of production. One CIA analyst who would not be identified said, "Yeah well, those jumpy bits where he's talking about Hilary Clinton keeping her little dick out of Syria are especially interesting because they're all jumpy and they look like it was pieced together word for word. As soon as we get someone in here who knows what language they're talking we'll get a better handle on this."Chip Ahoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597726289890879627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13474282098748600992012-03-06T11:52:55.004-06:002012-03-06T11:52:55.004-06:00"Diego Garcia"
Diego Garcia is a longgg..."Diego Garcia"<br /><br />Diego Garcia is a longgg way from anywhere. The Saratoga was in the Indian Ocean for about a month in 1985 until Khadafi's <b><i>line of death</i></b> nonsense brought us back to the Med. Thanx Muammar! :) I digress.shilohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16490952508600134457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49814896893741288402012-03-06T11:43:14.243-06:002012-03-06T11:43:14.243-06:00I personally think they didn't kill him. OBL&...I personally think they didn't kill him. OBL's brain is a bigger intelligence haul than anything they could get from a hard drive. I'm guessing he's in a drugged haze in some basement in Diego Garcia. He'll be buried at sea once we're done with him.Blue@9https://www.blogger.com/profile/16371286571496793710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9735484101928882942012-03-06T11:41:33.409-06:002012-03-06T11:41:33.409-06:00"I am not sure exactly what evidence can be e..."I am not sure exactly what evidence can be extracted from a corpse--now his personal computer and belongings are another story altogether."<br /><br />Here is just a tip of the iceberg:<br /><br />http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/224981.phpD.D. Driverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652277556374392962noreply@blogger.com