tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post1188445261000005266..comments2024-03-28T16:08:15.331-05:00Comments on Althouse: I live-blog my reading of the transcript of Trump's remarks at the CIA Headquarters.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger336125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21471064045143079272017-01-23T12:14:12.250-06:002017-01-23T12:14:12.250-06:00imho, Trump was using Spicer to troll the media on...imho, Trump was using Spicer to troll the media on the crowd size non-issue. That was Trump's playbook all of 2016, they fell for it every time, why should he stop using it as long as it works?<br /><br />I was impressed by the CIA crowd's positive response, though I cannot tell to what extent that noise and applause was from CIA people or Administration plants (if any). But if it was legit, I would guess it reflects serious concern by career people, that the last 8 years have besmirched their individual and collective reputations, and the hope that a new team will treat them more respectfully and not make them compromise their work and then embarrass them for short-term political reasons--as Obama and Brennan did, repeatedly.<br /><br />That hope may be misplaced, but I suspect it is there and while it's too early to draw any conclusions about Trump, it speaks volumes about the people in charge since 2009.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13617687006180956861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83989225027975641692017-01-23T07:40:51.914-06:002017-01-23T07:40:51.914-06:00Once written, twice... said...
"If this was ...<br /> <br />Once written, twice... said... <br />"If this was Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama you wouldn't do the "always eager to attempt a sympathetic reading" thing. You would have -- rightfully -- ripped it apart.<br /><br />Trump is going to be scary erratic over the next four years. It was obvious during the campaign that he would be a scary President. But you did not write one critical post about Trump during his rise tho power in 2016. You were just another person who unthinkingly jumped on the Trump bandwagon." <br /><br />How can you make such a prediction? You know nothing of economics or psychology.<br />Trump , so far, has been focused and deliberate. He appears to know exactly what he wants and how to achieve it.<br />Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10547295695276556562017-01-22T23:11:26.543-06:002017-01-22T23:11:26.543-06:00There's a wall at the CIA with the names of ag...There's a wall at the CIA with the names of agents killed in the line of duty. I'd guess the 28/29 was a reference to the number of names on the wall. Trump said he wanted it to be lower. (Which must mean fewer killed, not more resurrected.)Joanne Jacobshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06801487780819716845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74418147460952336232017-01-22T23:10:20.595-06:002017-01-22T23:10:20.595-06:00"The number referred to (28/29) at the beginn..."The number referred to (28/29) at the beginning of Trump's speech is the number of CIA officers killed in the line of duty since the War on Terrorism began, starting with Johnny Micheal Spann in November 2001. ... See the Wikipedia article on the CIA Memorial Wall."<br /><br />That number isn't in the Wikipedia article. It says only 27 of the stars were added since 2009. Do you have a source for that being what he was referring to?<br /><br />But what really stands out is what he says next: "We’ve got to reduce it." How do you reduce the number of people who have already died?<br /><br />Clearly he's trying to say, "We need to reduce the number of people who get killed in this endeavor," but what an inelegant way to eulogize those who have already died.LWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17859298924262272827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56335982226856441392017-01-22T21:37:46.876-06:002017-01-22T21:37:46.876-06:00I am surprised that few pundits compare Trump'...I am surprised that few pundits compare Trump's vocal hostility to the press to Jesse Ventura's. <br />When Trump started his nomination run, I wrote several screeds on another blog mocking him as Jesse Ventura's political protege. I only gradually muted this criticism and I never did vote for Trump.<br />The contrast between Trump and Ventura, and what makes Trump a more effective politician (so far) is Trump's close alliance with GOP party regulars (aka Priebus). It was a smart move on the part of Priebus to embrace Trumpism, but only when it was obvious Trump would win the nomination. It's easy to see how Trump, if elected, but rejected by the GOP, could become a tool of Chuck Schumer. Lewis Wetzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200232293505119133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51788150183458668712017-01-22T20:59:42.221-06:002017-01-22T20:59:42.221-06:00http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4140776/Ra...<b>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4140776/Rain-falls-protesters-supporters-National-Mall.html<br /><br />"Thousands descend on half-empty National Mall with ponchos and umbrellas for Trump's inauguration – as figures reveal more than SEVEN times as many people attended Obama's in 2009<br /><br />"The National Mall expected nearly 900,000 people to witness Donald Trump become the next president, despite the gray skies and cold rain - in fact only 250,000 turned out to see the billionaire become president"<br /></b><br /><br />Trump made it an issue. Remember. Not the media. Trump.<br /><br />Never forget. <br /><br /><b>This is not 1938; the situation is different, and Trump's "America First" is not Father Coughlin's "America First."</b><br /><br />For starters, Coughlin was WAY off to the Left.<br /><br /><b>The man is nauseating to listen to, so I stopped after he called some military man a "gem" more than once. He essentially said nothing of significance for the first five minutes.</b><br /><br />He should be applauded. He did in 5 minutes what Obama would take an hour to do.<br /><br /><b>The man is nauseating to listen to, so I stopped after he called some military man a "gem" more than once. He essentially said nothing of significance for the first five minutes.</b><br /><br />I treated our prior President, the empty suit, the same way.<br /><br />damikeschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133230009952160269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53188072479115040832017-01-22T20:48:40.150-06:002017-01-22T20:48:40.150-06:00You can spin it all you like, but Trump is seen as...<b>You can spin it all you like, but Trump is seen as a Nazi by 50% of the world if not more.</b><br /><br />Most of the world caved to the Nazis and gave them what they wanted. That guy who Obama removed the bust of, Churchill, was one of the few at the time who was saying that this was a mistake.damikeschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133230009952160269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12715132006726376842017-01-22T18:38:17.901-06:002017-01-22T18:38:17.901-06:00MayBee said...
Althouse said:
critiqued by freakil...MayBee said...<br />Althouse said:<br />critiqued by freakily emotive commentators on CNN<br /><br />That just gets right to the heart of it.<br />You're gonna need a tag for that.<br /><br />--------------------------<br /><br />#TheHystericalPress<br />#ApoplecticMedia<br />#SpasticNewsStories<br />#OverwroughtMSM<br /><br />etc...MeatPopscicle1234https://www.blogger.com/profile/01658886488018880777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78204140750048029982017-01-22T18:33:59.891-06:002017-01-22T18:33:59.891-06:00I don't know what we'll do when Chuck gets...I don't know what we'll do when Chuck gets rotated out and a new moby starts mobying us.Jon Ericsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05548597217632737704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30777698033166385652017-01-22T18:26:31.626-06:002017-01-22T18:26:31.626-06:00Chuck was trading in #alternatefacts and it is bes...Chuck was trading in #alternatefacts and it is best to let him hang himself.<br /><br />Sell him the rope.Birkelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14205292523499913507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10573724782718342182017-01-22T17:59:45.703-06:002017-01-22T17:59:45.703-06:00or they put up a backwards K
Not all observe that...<b>or they put up a backwards K</b><br /><br />Not all observe that convention, Chuck. In fact, last year at the World Series some Twitterers went ape-shit over some KKK signs after three strike-outs. mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62351071258584607572017-01-22T17:53:43.520-06:002017-01-22T17:53:43.520-06:00Never, Chuck? Not one time?Never, Chuck? Not one time?Birkelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14205292523499913507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66242568091373201142017-01-22T17:36:52.791-06:002017-01-22T17:36:52.791-06:00Not sure if I've ever quoted myself before:
C...Not sure if I've ever quoted myself before:<br /><br /><i>Chuck said...<br />I feel bad for Kellyanne Conway. By all accounts I know of, she's a friendly, intelligent an professional person.<br /><br />But she is going to get skewered over her "alternative facts" line.<br /><br />"Alt-facts" will become the meme of 2017.<br /></i><br /><br />It has officially begun. #alternativefacts<br /><br />https://twitter.com/search?q=trending+%23alternativefacts&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5EsearchChuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07676108366725199186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7457755289124589702017-01-22T17:32:48.880-06:002017-01-22T17:32:48.880-06:00mockturtle said...
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Freder, maybe you don't...<i>mockturtle said...<br />...<br />Freder, maybe you don't watch baseball at all! Fans in the stands will hold up a K sign for each strikeout their pitcher has made. It can be as many as KKKKKKKKKK or even more, or as few as K. But there is usually a point when there is KKK.<br /></i><br />I watch baseball. Never, do fans put up "KKK" on the third strikeout. They do one of two things. They wait, until the fourth strikeout and put up "KKKK"; or they put up a backwards K. <br /><br />Always. Without fail. Okay, now that I have declared the never-broken rule, it is also time to acknowledge that Cleveland fans (of course, Cleveland) don't know how to do it, and did it wrong in the World Series (those fans had ONE JOB!) and so naturally some lefty journalist thought that someone decided to suddenly honor the Ku Klux Klan in the bottom of the eighth inning of World Series Game 7. <br /><br />https://cdn1.ijr.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screen-Shot-2016-11-03-at-5.00.16-PM.png<br /><br />The stupidity there piles up so high, with so many contributors, I don't know where to begin. MLB did. The gave up on "K" as the official scoring abbreviation in 2015.<br /> <br />Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07676108366725199186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70807727428356114572017-01-22T16:29:52.397-06:002017-01-22T16:29:52.397-06:00Why do people expect a huge turnout for an old whi...Why do people expect a huge turnout for an old white dude?<br /><br />It's not like we haven't sworn in 43 of them before Obama.Seeing Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00338495289040972548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56333960018385571732017-01-22T16:25:49.287-06:002017-01-22T16:25:49.287-06:00I totally ignored the election and how the spoke s...I totally ignored the election and how the spoke so this is all new to me.<br /><br />FUN FUN FUN!Seeing Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00338495289040972548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83699115854042575562017-01-22T16:13:57.641-06:002017-01-22T16:13:57.641-06:00I don't think Ann is used to the way he talks....I don't think Ann is used to the way he talks.<br /><br />He wasn't talking about the Sec of AG.<br /><br />He was talking about his/the process and used that dept. as the example to lead into Pompeo.<br /><br />Geez, I must talk/think like him, I understand him.<br /><br />This is off-the-cuff, he's having a convo.<br /><br />over 25 years of marriage and hubby still can't follow.<br /><br />I think and speak faster than he does. Donald has a fast brain, he's formulating thoughts 3-4 times ahead of the comment.<br /><br />The next 4 years get more entertaining every day.Seeing Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00338495289040972548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18815146213648954122017-01-22T16:04:01.394-06:002017-01-22T16:04:01.394-06:00It seems to have been Birkel's.It seems to have been Birkel's. rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87762553966993174702017-01-22T16:03:49.534-06:002017-01-22T16:03:49.534-06:00I need to dig and re read my copy of "Boss&qu...I need to dig and re read my copy of "Boss" by Mike Royko describing Mayor Daly and his reign in Chicago. It seems like Trump shares many similarities with Daly. They may not have been the most articulate men but there wasn't any ambiguity in what they meant or are trying to say. This CIA meeting was about virtue signaling to the rank in file his beef is not with them, but with their politicized bosses. I want to see more of this.Gk1https://www.blogger.com/profile/05684001554547696317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58064083770398711992017-01-22T16:02:49.480-06:002017-01-22T16:02:49.480-06:00Note to rcocean: I had to steal your comment and t...<i>Note to rcocean: I had to steal your comment and tweet it out. Couldn't include attribution because of the character limit. "The MSM believed the speech [at the CIA] was for them to interpret. Now they are in an ice chest onboard the U.S.S. Trump." Hope that's OK with you. Anyway, thanks.</i><br /><br />Rance: The quote wasn't mine. The good ones never are. rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22044997056887501292017-01-22T15:56:31.880-06:002017-01-22T15:56:31.880-06:00But even if I grant you that the photographic evid...<i>But even if I grant you that the photographic evidence is unreliable, then what justifies Spicer's claim?</i><br /><br />To ask the question is to answer it. <br />Because Spicer knows that no one will be able to absolutely refute his statement. <br />Some people call that politics.<br /><br />madAsHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01149940549262340795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72929324761661523722017-01-22T15:55:49.599-06:002017-01-22T15:55:49.599-06:00JML asks: On a more serious note: Has anyone seen ...JML asks: <b>On a more serious note: Has anyone seen Greenbay's Defense? They appear to have not made it to Atlanta...</b><br /><br />They must have missed the plane. Sad, isn't it? But maybe an amazing comeback? <br /><br />Since the Falcons beat my Seahawks last week, I guess it's somewhat comforting that their offense looks unstoppable. Theirs is the best offense in the NFL. WOW! There goes Julio Jones again! mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68539027173455292842017-01-22T15:51:17.033-06:002017-01-22T15:51:17.033-06:00Consider also that, in early Colonial New England,...Consider also that, in early Colonial New England, five-year-olds had to memorize the Westminster Shorter Catechism which is not all that short. Little is expected from students today and, not surprisingly, little is produced. mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49077086551482384812017-01-22T15:50:17.025-06:002017-01-22T15:50:17.025-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17149196891626763642017-01-22T15:41:02.325-06:002017-01-22T15:41:02.325-06:00buwaya: The teaching of history in the US is a sc...buwaya: <i>The teaching of history in the US is a scandal, even at the highest level. I know what goes on in AP US history and AP world history; my kids who went to Catholic middle schools got better than that. <br /><br />Consider what the schoolboy was expected to know; I point you to two things, both popular (very popular), very silly, very schoolboyish Edwardian and inter-war works - both free online<br /><br />"The Toys of Peace" Saki (H.H.Munro, killed on the Western Front)<br /><br />" 1066 and All That" Sellar&Yeatman<br /><br />Saki's lads knew all about Louis IV, Madames de Maintenon and du Barry, and Marshal Saxe. If this all wasnt common knowledge the joke wouldnt have worked.<br /><br />As for "1066 and all that" read it, and consider what you'd have to know to get it.</i><br /><br />Re Saki's lads: even "progressive" parents of the day didn't seem willing to tolerate blank brains in their kids, in the name of "creativity" or whatever.<br /><br />Not just fictional progressive parents, either, apparently - reading <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Patrick-Leigh-Fermor/e/B000APTHY0/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1485120535&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">Patrick Leigh Fermor's</a> memoirs, I remember being impressed by how much old school larnin' had been stuffed into the fellow before he reached early adulthood, even though his proto-hippy-dippy parents seem to have provided him with a very irregular, at best, formal education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com