tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post110637060910686355..comments2024-03-19T06:32:55.590-05:00Comments on Althouse: "What makes Rand Paul’s position... noteworthy is that it’s a pure, unadulterated expression of Lockean anti-statism with little admixture of Hobbesian sentiments at all."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger136125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38307224623557793612010-05-27T15:03:59.858-05:002010-05-27T15:03:59.858-05:00Interesting that none of the commenters here thoug...<i>Interesting that none of the commenters here thought it was unfair that a mediocre white man became President after a lifetime of favoritism shown him because of who his daddy and other family members were, and not because of his own merit.</i><br /><br />If I let myself be motivated primarily by bitterness and resentment that other people have it better than me, I'd be a liberal, not a libertarian. There are many millions of people in America who are better off than me, in many cases without having done anything to deserve their good fortune. So what? Doesn't hurt me.<br /><br />Was Bush mediocre? Sure, maybe. But he was a better choice than Gore and Kerry -- two other mediocre white men who tried to become President after a lifetime of favoritism shown them because of who their daddies and other family members were, and not because of their own merit.<br /><br /><i>Yet if a similarly mediocre black man with a daddy to smooth his way through life had become President, they would all cry Affirmative Action.</i><br /><br />We would probably call him "Harold Ford Junior". :)<br /><br /><i>"But that's a straw man; there is no such thing as a person nobody will trade with..."</i><br /><br /><i>rev, I'm surprised. You don't usually pull things out of your derriere, yet I can see no other source for that idea.</i><br /><br />If you think I'm wrong, it should be easy to find an example of a real-life person nobody will trade with. Good luck with that. I have to wonder -- how exactly do you think black people survived during the Jim Crow years? Manna from heaven? :)<br /><br /><i>But in the segregated South, people loved racists.</i><br /><br />You really should stop getting your history lessons from repeated screenings of "In the Heat of the Night".<br /><br />The kind of hard-core racists who couldn't stomach the idea of interacting with black people in a non-subservient role were a distinct minority in the 1960s South. What they were, was a solid minority bloc of issue voters, like unions, illegal immigration supporters, or hardcore pro-lifers. The vast majority of white Southerners had no particular attachment to racism; they were just used to the way things were. They used the whites-only fountain because that was the law, not because they thought there was something revolting about the blacks-only one.<br /><br /><i>The Heart of America motel case came about after the CRA struck down Jim Crow by law. The owner liked Jim Crow, and didn't like Negroes staying in his motel.</i><br /><br />The Heart of Atlanta Motel wound up bulldozed and replaced by a Hilton. QED. :)Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12241975273283180912010-05-27T11:35:32.639-05:002010-05-27T11:35:32.639-05:00Interesting that none of the commenters here thoug...Interesting that none of the commenters here thought it was unfair that a mediocre white man became President after a lifetime of favoritism shown him because of who his daddy and other family members were, and not because of his own merit. Yet if a similarly mediocre black man with a daddy to smooth his way through life had become President, they would all cry Affirmative Action.<br /><br /><i> But that's a straw man; there is no such thing as a person nobody will trade with...</i><br /><br />rev, I'm surprised. You don't usually pull things out of your derriere, yet I can see no other source for that idea.<br /><br /><i>The reason they exist is that senseless discrimination is inefficient. A person who refuses to ever do business with a black man loses not only that black man's business, but the business of people who dislike racists. </i><br /><br />But in the segregated South, people loved racists. Discrimination was the norm. The Heart of America motel case came about after the CRA struck down Jim Crow by law. The owner liked Jim Crow, and didn't like Negroes staying in his motel.former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74734604088344182252010-05-27T08:11:11.739-05:002010-05-27T08:11:11.739-05:00Damn, you can tell how pants-wetting terrified the...Damn, you can tell how pants-wetting terrified the Left is of libertarians! <br /><br />Go Rand Paul!Franklinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14251669607634975929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84231822344797321082010-05-27T02:52:36.528-05:002010-05-27T02:52:36.528-05:00"It is called the right to freedom of associa..."It is called the right to freedom of association..."<br /><br />This is an important point. I believe it's still a right even though it's despised because it's abused. We protect speech even if it's ugly. Why don't we protect the right to associate with the same vehemence? <br /><br />Of course, the right to free speech is restricted when it's inconvenient. Some people (I'm speaking to you, Bambi) get upset when the right to free speech is restated. But it's just as important as the right to freely associate with those whom we want to associate.millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06288790458928188846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49488285339500721662010-05-27T02:14:03.142-05:002010-05-27T02:14:03.142-05:00You're right that the CRA would never have pas...<i>You're right that the CRA would never have passed without Southern congressmen voting for it. They knew those changes would not happen at the state level, so good for them.</i><br /><br />You have missed the point with almost surgical precision. The very fact that the South was able to *elect* those Congressmen is, itself, proof that the South was capable of change from within. Those Congressmen were elected <b>despite</b> the existence of state laws aimed specifically at suppressing any sort of opposition to the existing racist regimes. It is obvious that in the absence of government-sponsored racism, the existing Southern trend away from cultural racism would have been stronger and faster.<br /><br />This is a moot point, anyway. We can argue for days over whether we needed a federal ban on private racism in order to destroy the culture of segregation. Maybe it was necessary, maybe it wasn't. But even if it was necessary then, it isn't now. The war's over. The good guys won. The argument that restrictions on peoples' rights were necessary for the sake of the fight ceases to apply once the fight's over, and the fight's been over for decades.<br /><br /><i>I'm defending the federal role because I believe that it's a foul thing for U.S. citizens to be turned away from the door of restaurants, hotels, stores, gas stations, depending on where they find themselves at the time.</i><br /><br />I agree that it is a foul thing to refuse to serve someone because of their race. I don't know a libertarian who doesn't. It is, however, a foul thing that is a natural right of every human being. It is called the right to freedom of association, and "but your reasons for choosing who you associate with are revolting to me" is not a valid reason for stripping someone of that right.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5197322968274213272010-05-27T01:25:17.572-05:002010-05-27T01:25:17.572-05:00I think you're making the mistake of thinking ...<i>I think you're making the mistake of thinking the entire South was like backwoods Louisiana.</i><br /><br />Revenant, I didn't grow up in Louisiana, but you would have no way of knowing that. I'm a military brat, and my family is from the South. My parents grew up in Georgia and Arkansas; I've lived in Arkansas, Texas, and Louisiana, as well as parts in the Midwest. My siblings have lived in those places, along with Florida and Georgia. I know people from all over the South, and I travel mostly in the South. My experiences are broad. <br /><br />You're right that the CRA would never have passed without Southern congressmen voting for it. They knew those changes would not happen at the state level, so good for them. Lots of Southerners opposed private and public segregation. I've watched my own family change their opinions about segregation over time, and address our own racism. I don't deny the role that soul-searching played in changing the face of the South. <br /><br />I'm defending the federal role because I believe that it's a foul thing for U.S. citizens to be turned away from the door of restaurants, hotels, stores, gas stations, depending on where they find themselves at the time. I don't believe the market would have sorted that out - that doesn't mean there wouldn't have been more and more non-segregated places over time, but so what? There'd still be plenty of segregation to contend with. It was important to reject that as a nation.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65279024554954354292010-05-26T22:50:36.172-05:002010-05-26T22:50:36.172-05:00the author is ignorant of the abundant economic li...the author is ignorant of the abundant economic literature that supports the proposition that free markets retard and ultimately eliminate businesses that engage in discrimination. Rand's view is not motivated by lockean utopianism, but rather an honest view of how limited have been the gains of government intervention in black economic progress. Civil right litigation has descended into a cesspool of government funded ("public interest") or defendent-pays litigation (ultimately, same thing) that has little impact on black incomes and net worth. The travesty of obama's termination of the washington, DC vouchers program and doubling down on teachers unions so antithetical to black education are the great civil rights crimes of the new millennium.Anil Petrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09282048082722366947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9510641725691596242010-05-26T22:22:12.441-05:002010-05-26T22:22:12.441-05:00Thomas Sowell wrote an excellent book 15 or so yea...Thomas Sowell wrote an excellent book 15 or so years back. Actually, he has written 25 or so excellent books over the years. <br /><br />This one was titled "The Economics of Race and Discrimination" and looked at many of the economic effects of discrimination and non-discrimination. <br /><br />Well worth a read if you can find it. <br /><br />He also looks at black progress prior to 1964 in terms of income, job opportunities, education, integration into communities and found that it was was quite a bit faster in the period 1945-1970 (or so, I am going from memory here) than in the succeeding years. Not that progress stopped, though as other have noted it did go backwards in some areas such as family. But progress slowed. <br /><br />John HenryJohn henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13529920006532904660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80049114758967143272010-05-26T22:15:51.441-05:002010-05-26T22:15:51.441-05:00All this talk about racism, segregation and Jim Cr...All this talk about racism, segregation and Jim Crow and nobody wants to mention the elephant in the room. <br /><br />What about segregated colleges? They not only exist, they get financial and monetary support from the federal government to assure that they can continue. <br /><br />Somehow it is OK when blacks choose not to associate with Whites. <br /><br />Why is it not equally OK for whites to choose not to associate with blacks?<br /><br />By segregated colleges, I mean the underfunded and second rate "historically black" colleges. Why are they still allowed to exist? Why are they not allowed to whither away and go out of business. Or better, forced to integrate so that they have a student, faculty and admin body that reflects the colors of America. That is 13% (or so) black and the rest white, hispanic, asian etc. <br /><br />John HenryJohn henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13529920006532904660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15491297831412205402010-05-26T22:00:17.888-05:002010-05-26T22:00:17.888-05:00Well its obvious that institutional racism continu...Well its obvious that institutional racism continues to exist at intolerable levels today. Bastions of white privilege like Madison Wisconsin (84% white: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison,_WI#Demographics ) have done not nearly enough to combat invidious racism and progress society to its post-racial future. Any responsible member of society would surely endorse zoning residential housing plots to integrate neighborhoods, artificially inseminating women to produce a more appropriate demographic distribution, and relocating whites to traditionally minority neighborhoods to promote integration and diversity. Yet sadly so many liberals are not up to the challenge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80253827050348678382010-05-26T21:59:12.150-05:002010-05-26T21:59:12.150-05:00How can a man have a right to property when proper...<i>How can a man have a right to property when property owners have the right not to trade with him?</i><br /><br />Quite easily. The proof of this being, I *do* have the right not to trade with you, and yet you still somehow possess property.<br /><br />Now, the question "how could a man possess property if nobody was willing to trade with him at all" is "he couldn't". But that's a straw man; there is no such thing as a person nobody will trade with, and no such thing as a person everyone is willing to trade with.<br /><br /><i>Not because of any flaws in his character, but because of an abundance of pigment in his skin?</i><br /><br />I can legally discriminate against you for a whole host of reasons having nothing to do with your character: your hair, your eyes, your height, your weight, your family, your citizenship status, etc. Yet property rights continue to exist. Odd, no?<br /><br />The reason they exist is that senseless discrimination is inefficient. A person who refuses to ever do business with a black man loses not only that black man's business, but the business of people who dislike racists. <br /><br />When American society was largely insular and immobile that didn't mean much, because odds are you'd be born, live your entire life, and die within the same small area. But the latter half of the 20th century saw an America which was incredibly mobile and incredibly interconnected. Bigotry doesn't survive in that kind of environment unless the government enforces it.<br /><br />That's why, today, the only socially-acceptable forms of racism are the kinds of government enforces, e.g. racial discrimination on behalf of ostensibly disadvantaged minorities.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56015570484461209032010-05-26T21:43:51.955-05:002010-05-26T21:43:51.955-05:00The southern Baby Boom generation and the northern...<i>The southern Baby Boom generation and the northern Baby Boom generation didn't have enough cultural differences between them to be worth mentioning.</i><br /><br />How true. Many baby boomer "Southerners", like myself, had parents from other parts. I grew up in Knoxville, TN and didn't know what the word "nigger" was until I was in the 8th grade because I went to a parochial school and had midwestern parents. My dad was from Ohio and my mother had lived several places around the midwest. <br /><br />WWII moved a lot of people around. I doubt many appreciate how much it stirred up the domestic social pot.DADvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621021178600799126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3006097402206078412010-05-26T21:29:59.805-05:002010-05-26T21:29:59.805-05:00No one assumes unfairness when a white person gets...No one assumes unfairness when a white person gets the job.<br /><br />Would I have been told (quite candidly since since she knew my father) the lady in personnel at TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority - a federal agency) in 1980 that unless I was black or female that I needn't bother applying for a job (despite my 3.97 GPA in grad school) if I was black or female?<br /><br />I just love/hate listening to liberals champion bigotry. Of course no one questions it when the person on the receiving end is a white male.<br /><br />Would even poorer students, like Gore and Kerry, have become Democratic candidates if they weren't rich, white guys? Bigots!! Those Democrats!!DADvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621021178600799126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16102572220655479712010-05-26T21:26:31.077-05:002010-05-26T21:26:31.077-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.DADvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621021178600799126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7146702090465668772010-05-26T21:07:45.051-05:002010-05-26T21:07:45.051-05:00Well, that's just me. Maybe I'm missing so...<i>Well, that's just me. Maybe I'm missing some big thing here about how wonderful it is to create yet another generation of kids who are stuck without education and hope. But I swear if I didn't know any better I'd think the Democrats were doing this on purpose. Which is, perhaps, to your point.</i><br /><br />miller, <br /><br />Heh- see what I mean? I don't know if it's a conscious effort or not, but I know what the effects of it are. The elite Libs get to control everything and congratulate themselves, and their co-dependents suffer away. And it will go on like this forever without radical intervention. The elites create learned helplessness in a way by pushing their ethnic studies programs (subtly implying to inner cities students that they can't/shouldn't focus primarily in other studies), and then what are the students left with? That's why I think AZ had the right approach in banning these programs. And there's nothing that prevents people from studying the history of their race on their own time.<br /><br />Why aren't they doing their own kind of Tea Parties protesting this problem? There are a lot of reasons, but I would argue that this is one area where conservatives really need to seize the day- the ultimate payoffs might take awhile, but it's the right thing to do.A.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04715847289617725350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87941007262714662352010-05-26T20:55:47.518-05:002010-05-26T20:55:47.518-05:00Repukilicans. Rethuglicans. RepuliKKKans. THis is ...Repukilicans. Rethuglicans. RepuliKKKans. THis is so much fun.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205752419540502278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77012036861732401702010-05-26T20:41:28.595-05:002010-05-26T20:41:28.595-05:00Revenant, did you somehow overlook that the North ...<i>Revenant, did you somehow overlook that the North and South went to war?</i><br /><br />Before you accuse me of "ignoring" it you ought to offer a rational argument for why a war fought a century before would cause the residents of the losing states -- many of whom were, by that point, descended in whole or in part from the WINNING side of the war or from people who hadn't even immigrated yet -- would make a South <b>without</b> Jim Crow laws incapable of freely changing without direct government coercion.<br /><br />As part of your argument, be sure to explain how it is that there were eight Southern congressmen who voted for the CRA and one Southern President who signed it. How did these people exist, if the core of Southern culture was incurably racist?<br /><br />I think you're making the mistake of thinking the entire South was like backwoods Louisiana.<br /><br /><i>There were core, cultural differences among the two.</i><br /><br />Not really, no. There were <b>when the war was fought</b>, but post-WW2 the differences began rapidly disappearing. The southern Baby Boom generation and the northern Baby Boom generation didn't have enough cultural differences between them to be worth mentioning.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51673852222564451672010-05-26T19:07:48.714-05:002010-05-26T19:07:48.714-05:00"But sadly, I think the elitist Libs want to ..."But sadly, I think the elitist Libs want to keep black students away from such an education, because they fear giving up their precious control over everything, and this is why they haven't pushed for this in decades. "<br /><br />I don't know if it's that. It makes a good clever riposte to a libtard, but I can't figure out why black Americans who have been so ill-served by their allegiance to one party continue to let their alcoholic daddy beat them again and again. I am NOT saying "well, they should just become Republicans." I AM saying "what in God's name will it take to get black Americans to stop letting themselves be used in each election to get people into power who continually do not do anything to help them get out of their bondage?"<br /><br />Something is seriously & toxically wrong if I can actually count more first and second generation Vietnamese than black software engineers at my business.<br /><br />I mean, my God, inner city schools are shit and have been for decades, we pour billions of dollars into them, and yet we are not making any changes. Why aren't black Americans creating the equivalent of Tea Parties about this? How can they let their kids continue to be so ill-served? I believe they love their kids as much as anyone else, but do they really just not see that this is just so wrong? Why do they continue to elect politicians who continue to abuse their kids?<br /><br />Well, that's just me. Maybe I'm missing some big thing here about how wonderful it is to create yet another generation of kids who are stuck without education and hope. But I swear if I didn't know any better I'd think the Democrats were doing this on purpose. Which is, perhaps, to your point.millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06288790458928188846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73591060394390054842010-05-26T18:33:11.717-05:002010-05-26T18:33:11.717-05:00"Most Americans look beyond principles to act..."<i>Most Americans look beyond principles to actual outcomes.</i>"<br /><br /><br />I disagree with this.<br /><br />I think that most Americans do not look at outcomes at all. Otherwise wouldn't we tend to follow through to see if what we propose actually works or not? I think that rather than an interest in outcomes, we have an interest in answering a moral need to "do something" and once that something is done we feel content that our responsibility has been met... no matter the outcome.Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79593002223522517562010-05-26T18:22:17.602-05:002010-05-26T18:22:17.602-05:00The experience and results for these other minorit...<i>The experience and results for these other minorities are not because blacks are less capable, but because we have, by law and policy, assumed they are and many of them and us have bought it.</i><br /><br />I agree, bagoh20. In fact, I've always thought this assumption was the most subtle form of racism, when you take it to its logical conclusion. <br /><br />And miller, you raise a great point about the importance of a technical-related education for blacks and other traditionally lower-income minorities. I know Japanese-Americans whose parents were in relocation camps in WWII; one could argue that they have a right to blame this on "racism", and carry this resentment with them the rest of their lives. Yet, the individuals that I know (and this is pretty common, I believe), rarely even talk about it. Instead, they live very successful lives and are highly paid as a result of their focus on the importance of education, especially in the math and sciences. <br /><br />But sadly, I think the elitist Libs want to keep black students away from such an education, because they fear giving up their precious control over everything, and this is why they haven't pushed for this in decades.A.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04715847289617725350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35965308981849576132010-05-26T18:02:02.749-05:002010-05-26T18:02:02.749-05:00Beth, I find it interesting that in an hour's ...Beth, I find it interesting that in an hour's round trip drive you can find establishments that discriminate racially from both sides.<br /><br />45 years after the end of Jim Crow and the passage of the Civil Rights Act.<br /><br />How do you explain that? <br /><br />How do you feel about it? In as much that this requires at least a percentage of blacks to be at least a little racist?<br /><br />Or is it a retaliatory response to the white store owners several miles away?<br /><br />I used to work in a service station, back when that meant something, in a racially mixed neighborhood. We had young black guy who did the cleaning for us at the station, and on Saturday's he would stop at a barbecue joint a block or two away and get ribs for us.<br /><br />Some Saturdays I would go myself, if there were two of us on the shift, and invariably when I opened the door all conversation would stop and every eye would turn toward me. <br /><br />And I knew by sight most of the folks in there. They came by the station; I had pumped their gas and fixed their cars.<br /><br />I was served; conversations would slowly restart, I would talk to several about problems they had with their cars, but the whole atmosphere was strained.<br /><br />And I was the only white person in the store.<br /><br />Was this racism?<br /><br />I don't think so; I just think it was a group response to someone different in their midst.<br /><br />My presence made both sides of the situation uncomfortable, and yet we both knew we had no reason to be. I didn't go there often; maybe 3 or 4 times tops in the course of 5 or 6 years, and each time I felt the same.<br /><br />Did they feel the same when they visited the white owned business I worked at? I doubt it; our place was always full of both races, so things weren't as one sided.<br /><br />To makea long story short, if its not too late, maybe the feeling you get in both of these places isn't institutional or even individual racism, but only a sociological response to some one different?An Edjamikated Redneckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881476802902468670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65459714709172843072010-05-26T17:42:58.192-05:002010-05-26T17:42:58.192-05:00I meant " no longer allowing".I meant " no longer allowing".traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43969270007764145862010-05-26T17:40:57.945-05:002010-05-26T17:40:57.945-05:00A few facts that would be helpful in the great de...A few facts that would be helpful in the great debate over the out of control Federal Government 45 years ago was that was a time when1) the black voters were still being effectively excluded from voting by registration laws (despite the non-libertarian 14th amendment forced upon free whites by William T Sherman and Thaddeus Stevens), and 2) both of the Kennedy brothers and MLK were fair game for "lone crazed"assassins from nowhere, and 3) The military draft for Viet Nam was getting all of the young black men who got none of the deferments and none of the prescious openings into the always full national guard and reserve units. Allowing the hatred of the southern protectors of the white women from race mixing in public accommodations was a necessary move to keep the peace. Ron and Rand Paul remember those days as their glory days and now they want us to relive them so we can join in with their mental illness.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31837673387664925312010-05-26T17:34:15.980-05:002010-05-26T17:34:15.980-05:00HD;
If you back a drug user, a fool, a guy who li...HD;<br /><i> If you back a drug user, a fool, a guy who likes to dress like a Nazi and a fellow who may like the 3/5ths of a vote from the census clause,</i><br /><br />I assume you mean Limbaugh (<i>drug user</i>), don't listen to him; Beck (<i>dress like a Nazi </i>) don't listen or watch him; Paul (<i> like the 3/5ths of a vote </i>), don't live in Kentucky.<br /><br />And damn, I'm still a Republican....go figure!<br /><br />And likewise I don't believe someone who was in the KKK, someone who tried to sell a Senate seat nor someone who hid cold bribery cash in his freezer represents the Democratic Party.<br /><br />Of course, YMMVPhil 314https://www.blogger.com/profile/04133300763922742206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11647523592309247422010-05-26T17:25:25.347-05:002010-05-26T17:25:25.347-05:00miller,
I think we are in agreement. We're ...miller, <br /><br />I think we are in agreement. We're both saying that discrimination is not the real problem and stuff like the CRA is not the solution, what you said is. Unfortunately we have developed a culture that believes that success is only prevented by someone holding you back rather than your own lack of effort and vision. That's an infectious disease.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.com