But I was glad to get deflected into the OED, because I'm finding out about Nil admirari: "The attitude of indifference to the distractions of the outside world advocated by the Roman poet Horace. Also: a person adopting this attitude."
Etymology: "classical Latin nīl admīrārī, in nil admirari prope res est una..quae possit facere et servare beatum, ‘to wonder at nothing is just about the only way a man can become contented and remain so’ (Horace Epistles 1. 6. 1).
From the Wikipedia article about the term: "Nietzsche wrote that in this proposition the ancient philosopher 'sees the whole of philosophy,' opposing it to Schopenhauer's 'admirari id est philosophari' (to marvel is to philosophize)."
Here's the Horace:
The only way, to make and keep men blest.
The sun, the stars, the seasons of the year
That come and go, some gaze at without fear:
What think you of the gifts of earth and sea,
The untold wealth of Ind or Araby,
Or, to come nearer home, our games and shows,
The plaudits and the honours Rome bestows?
How should we view them? ought they to convulse
The well-strung frame and agitate the pulse?
Who fears the contrary, or who desires
The things themselves, in either case admires;
Each way there's flutter; something unforeseen
Disturbs the mind that else had been serene.
Joy, grief, desire or fear, whate'er the name
The passion bears, its influence is the same;
Where things exceed your hope or fall below,
You stare, look blank, grow numb from top to toe.
E'en virtue's self, if followed to excess,
Turns right to wrong, good sense to foolishness.
Go now, my friend, drink in with all your eyes
Bronze, silver, marble, gems, and Tyrian dyes,
Feel pride when speaking in the sight of Rome,
Go early out to 'Change and late come home,
For fear your income drop beneath the rate
That comes to Mutus from his wife's estate,
And (shame and scandal!), though his line is new,
You give the pas to him, not he to you.
Whate'er is buried mounts at last to light,
While things get hid in turn that once looked bright.
So when Agrippa's mall and Appius' way
Have watched your well-known figure day by day,
At length the summons comes, and you must go
To Numa and to Ancus down below.
Your side's in pain; a doctor hits the blot:
You wish to live aright (and who does not?);
If virtue holds the secret, don't defer;
Be off with pleasure, and be on with her.
But no; you think all morals sophists' tricks,
Bring virtue down to words, a grove to sticks;
Then hey for wealth! quick, quick, forestall the trade
With Phrygia and the East, your fortune's made.
One thousand talents here—one thousand there—
A third—a fourth, to make the thing four-square.
A dowried wife, friends, beauty, birth, fair fame,
These are the gifts of money, heavenly dame:
Be but a moneyed man, persuasion tips
Your tongue, and Venus settles on your lips.
The Cappadocian king has slaves enow,
But gold he lacks: so be it not with you.
Lucullus was requested once, they say,
A hundred scarves to furnish for the play:
"A hundred!" he replied, "'tis monstrous; still
I'll look; and send you what I have, I will."
Ere long he writes: "Five thousand scarves I find;
Take part of them, or all if you're inclined."
That's a poor house where there's not much to spare
Which masters never miss and servants wear.
So, if 'tis wealth that makes and keeps us blest,
Be first to start and last to drop the quest.
If power and mob-applause be man's chief aims,
Let's hire a slave to tell us people's names,
To jog us on the side, and make us reach,
At risk of tumbling down, a hand to each:
"This rules the Fabian, that the Veline clan;
Just as he likes, he seats or ousts his man:"
Observe their ages, have your greeting pat,
And duly "brother" this, and "father" that.
Say that the art to live's the art to sup,
Go fishing, hunting, soon as sunlight's up,
As did Gargilius, who at break of day
Swept with his nets and spears the crowded way,
Then, while all Rome looked on in wonder, brought
Home on a single mule a boar he'd bought.
Thence pass on to the bath-room, gorged and crude,
Our stomachs stretched with undigested food,
Lost to all self-respect, all sense of shame,
Disfranchised freemen, Romans but in name,
Like to Ulysses' crew, that worthless band,
Who cared for pleasure more than fatherland.
If, as Mimnermus tells you, life is flat
With nought to love, devote yourself to that.
Farewell: if you can mend these precepts, do:
If not, what serves for me may serve for you.

39 comments:
He probably gave away more than he intended by using the wrong word, it's more that he is mad about loss of control of the White House to that squatter than any 'reverence for history.' I wonder how he would respond to a suggestion that his reverence for slave era architecture is showing disrespect for the "peculiar institution" that held sway when it was built.
When the British burned Washington, didn't they use formerly enslaved soldiers* in their ranks, soldiers freed from plantations and given weapons? Why shouldn't that house have stayed burned? Maybe this is a long overdue comeuppance?
*This is where the line in the Star Spangled Banner about "hirelings and slaves" came from.
See? Two can play at that game.
Trump should announce he's putting his bust on Mt. Rushmore. Just to watch these retards start twitching uncontrollably.
Oderint dum metuant.
That’s for Axelrod and Dowd.
Isn't that two words?
My dad used to tell this weird joke. Two guys living in a rooming house. No matter what happened, if one guy gave the news to the other, the other would say "I know." So the first guy acquires the corpse of a white horse, somehow gets it upstairs, into the bathtub. Know it all comes home, goes upstairs as usual, comes running back down . "There's a dead white horse in the bathtub." "I know."
formerly Enslaved soldiers = former slaves
Nil reminds me of = Nihilism
Nihilism is a philosophical doctrine that asserts life has no objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. It typically involves a rejection of established religious, moral, or social norms, viewing them as baseless or illusory.
"Isn't that two words?"
It's one word, sundered.
Althouse said...
Etymology: ‘to wonder at nothing is just about the only way a man can become contented and remain so’ (Horace Epistles 1. 6. 1).
"In Italian, it's much nicer."
"It means he's content to be a jerk..."
Sundry words sundered
Sundered six ways from Sunday. It's sundown in America.
If Trump is “separating” us from the history of other Presidents of this century, it isn’t a bad thing. His intemperance and boorishness concerns us, but his accomplishments will outstrip the buffoons of the recent past.
Cogito ergo sum is an appropriate counter, but it doesn't work with Nil admirari because you can't put Descartes before the Horace.
>runs away, fast<
Admirari appears to be a deponent verb - passive in form and active in meaning. Anyway that's a passive infinitive form.
Nobody writes Roman poetry like that any more.
Shots fired over Fort Sundered.
Axelrod used the exact word to convey his meaning because he believes Trump is separating something Holy from the American people.
"those whom God hath joined together let no man put asunder"
Nietzsche could drink Axelrod's ass under the table.
Ds done did Sunder American Union
putting his bust on Mt. Rushmore
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will just Coiffure suffice
minimaist and gilded!
and catching Sun
also resemble Torch Flame 2fer
‘to wonder at nothing = quite synonymous with Nir-Vana
Ann Althouse said...
"Isn't that two words?"
It's one word, sundered.
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The word of the day is Nil Admirari.
They were saying that's two words.
duh
None and nothing to admire is an article of faith, a transhumane religious doctrine.
Ann Althouse said...
["Isn't that two words?"]
"It's one word, sundered."
Could be a tat purusha, like ice cream or life insurance.
Thistle Partick Nil
https://x.com/ODNIgov/status/1981812560572600539?
Meanwhile in the real world
Tulsi show coin-worthy profile too!
did I make haiku above? 11:25 AM
As the Old Testament Preacher --another stoic-- said: "nothing new under the sun." Illustrated wonderfully in several ways in this Horace poem. How familiar the Roman ways of adding drama to life through commerce, sex, food sports and travel. And the futility.
I am reminded of Plotinus, who was the inspiration for 'another thing on the way to the Forum
“ Farewell: if you can mend these precepts, do:
If not, what serves for me may serve for you.”
Modern society is broken. The Dons of academia are now mere politicians.
I found the link to the Horace translation at allpoetry.com. It was translated by John Conington (1869) according to the page. I wonder what liberties he might have taken with the original text to make it scan so well in English?
hanuman_prodigious_leaper said...
did I make haiku above? 11:25 AM
No. Five syllables, seven syllables, five syllables make a haiku.
I love robother's line at 1234PM--"through commerce, sex, food sports and travel."
I haven't tried food sports yet so have something to look forward to.
"The Union Sundered" was the Civil War volume in the Time-Life History of America. Nobody knew what it meant, but it was impressive language.
I had heard "nil admirari" before. I assumed it had to do with aesthetics and literary or arts criticism.
Narr: "I haven't tried food sports yet so have something to look forward to."
Too bad he didn't leave out one more comma: "sex food sports." That would be interesting.
Also, I seem to remember "Sex Food Sports Travel" was the working title for that Red Hot Chili Peppers album....CC, JSM
Narciso, that's appalling. CC, JSM
I like to think of the word "obdurate" which has a current meaning of "stubbornly refusing to change one's opinion or course of action," as in the Dems are obdurate about stopping the shutdown, but which originally meant "hardened in sin, impenitent." Oddly, both meanings apply. Garner asunder, my friends.
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