And, I'm listening to Fox News now and hearing Brit Hume saying something very close to what I said this morning. I said:
The new allegations — from Avenatti and The New Yorker — are, I think, helping Kavanaugh's case.... After all the careful work creating credence and empathy for Christine Blasey Ford, we now have an onslaught, a piling on, and it's making Kavanaugh into a sort of hero, who must stand his ground.There was a problem when there was only Blasey's accusation, and it did seem that you'd need multiple accusations to take down Kavanaugh. Multiple accusations were needed to take down Weinstein, Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose, Alex Kozinski, etc. But this new material doesn't seem like more Blasey-like allegations, but something different and much more questionable and more noticeably unfair.
There's a real contrast to the carefully built up Blasey incident, and while the conflict with Blasey seemed to be too much of an unresolvable he said/she said, to say he said/she said was to elevate Blasey to equal status: her word against his. There was dignity in that, and Kavanaugh supporters were being circumspect and allowing that dramatic confrontation to unfold. Now, Kavanaugh antagonists have escalated the attack and seem willing — some of them, anyway — to use anything. I think more sober Kavanaugh antagonists — such as the NYT — rue this development.
ADDED: If the allegations are not true, Kavanaugh must stand his ground. If this effort to take him down works — if the allegations are not true — the same strategy will be used against the next nominee and the one after that. It will never end. If the allegations are true, he should have done something long ago. Either he should have have withdrawn, or he should have conceded his past wrongdoing, apologized sincerely, and said tactfully what he could to minimize the relevance of the incident to the question of his qualification to serve on the Court.
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You give the NYT too much credit. They were more than happy to let another publication start the latest round of mud-throwing. Give them 24 hours, and they will start referencing those allegations as 'troublesome' or other such mealy-mouthiness. All kn the name of Progressivism.
I was a virgin until a college friend started to make fun of me. It didn't turn out good.
The Blasey-Ford story has three versions.
1. In 2012, told the marriage therapist four guys (who are now "high profile DC" dudes) attacked her. No names.
2. In July, told the WaPo that it was four guys at the party, but only two guys (Kavanaugh and Judge attacked her).
3. Ten days ago, told the WaPo it was four people at the party. Three guys and one girl. Stuck with version two that Kavanaugh and Judge attacked her. The fourth guy vanished, replaced by her friend who says she never met Kavanaugh and doesn't remember any party like the one she described.
This is shifting bullshit story.
Avenatti's "ran the train" is bullshit, too, but more entertaining.
He's the Clown Prince of the Resistance
Jeezus! This is brilliant defense (much better than the disgusting evil doppelganger theory). But if Avenatti is telling the truth and Kavanaugh gets confirmed, then Kavanaugh gets impeached (maybe even Trump). No doubt about it. This stuff is nuclear.
Bah, virgin/schmirgin.
Maybe he was so drunk and sexually repressed that he tried to force himself on poor Christy Blasey Ford!!
Yeah, that's the story.....
You first have to assume that Avenatti is telling the truth. He's slick pond scum.
Concern trolls gonna be concerned.
Virginity explains Kavanaugh's excellent grades in high school and college. Senator Feinstein will no doubt grill Kavanaugh Thursday on whether he was a virgin because of his strict Catholicism. "The dogma lives loudly within you, Judge Kavanaugh. Most men would have been pounding pussy in their teens and early 20s. That concerns me."
The Blasey-Ford story can't:
Tell you what Year and Month the "attack" took place;
Can't tell you WHERE the attack took place;
Can't tell you WHY she went to the Party and HOW She got home; and
Can't tell you HOW she knew Kavanaugh even thought they went to different schools and lived 10 miles apart.
HER STORY IS BULLSHIT. It always has been.
Unless the 5 people at The Party broke into someone's house, The Party had to be at one of the following:
1. Ford's house
2. Kavanaugh's house
3. Judge's house
4. Smyth's house
5. Leland's house
Ford can't even figure out that one.
The Blasey-Ford story can't:
Tell you what Year and Month the "attack" took place;
Can't tell you WHERE the attack took place;
Can't tell you WHY she went to the Party and HOW She got home;
As a "survivor" by the left's definition, I cannot understand how she cannot remember any of this. combine this with the other four having no memory of this party even taking place, including the woman saying she didn't even know Kav, I find that there is just not enough 'evidence' here. And you can't just give her the 'benefit of the doubt' because you feel sorry for her or because you don't want this guy on the court.
Sorry Dr. Ford, there it is.
He just needs one vindictive ex-girl friend from high school or college to do him in. She doesn't even have to be vindictive. Just a committed Demcrat willing to tell a little white lie and exaggerate about a make out session........I know Kavanaugh is a public figure, but doesn't he have any legal recourse against the lies of Avenatti?........The virginity doesn't seem consistent with the success of his high school and college career, but, on the other hand, a lot of sexcess doesn't seem consistent with all his success either. It's hard to get straight A's and participate in drunken revels.
Usually it's women who falsely claim to be virgins! Virginity fraud is a big deal in Muslim countries (not so much here, not yet). This is getting very interesting. But Avenatti says he has a third woman who's complaining about gang rapes, etc. My head is spinning.
The Democrat party and their surrogates are a complete Freaking joke.
It happens!!!! Male "Virginity Test" Frees Three Convicted Rapists in Vietnam:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/male-virginity-test-frees-three-convicted-rapists-in-vietnam/
I kinda hope Avenatti arrives at the hearings driving behind an ambulance.
#DemocratsDesperateLiars
Reason #57 I'm over Hollywood:
Hollywood delivers its verdict on Kavanaugh: Amy Schumer and Kerry Washington lead the charge of stars protesting against SCOTUS pick on Instagram
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6202985/Celebs-joined-BelieveSurvivors-protests.html
There was dignity in that, and Kavanaugh supporters were being circumspect and allowing that dramatic confrontation to unfold.
Circumspect? I'd say they were being pussies, just as in the Clarence Thomas hearings, hoping to avoid offending womenfolk. What they have done is to make a cause célèbre out of a nutty woman's spurious allegations.
Althouse notes: “I think more sober Kavanaugh antagonists — such as the NYT — rue this development.”
I wonder if lesser news outlet reporters write while blackout-drunk on Trump fury.
If Don Corleone were still alive, Avenatti might arrive at the hearings in an ambulance--not behind one.
"Most men would have been pounding pussy in their teens and early 20s. That concerns me."
I don't really like how you phrased that, nonetheless ...
I worked my tail off in HS (class of 1971) to:
(1) make money;
(2) prepare for college and;
(3) get laid.
It was only with great effort and perseverance that I was able to accomplish all three goals. The vast majority of my classmates only accomplished one or two of these goals. Maybe they had different priorities.
From my perspective, it is the norm for HS boys to be virgins entering college. Most seemed to stay that way as freshman (just as my stepson has done). A lot more seem to get laid as sophomores. We are sort of hoping the kid gets laid this year, but he does not seem interested. He wants to save it until marriage.
What will the hack-D late night TV comedian-talk show hosts(D) do with this?
Mock him for being a rapist?
Mock him for being a virgin?
36+ years ago really matters inside Colbert's loyal D-hack brain. He'll find a way.
Raped by a virgin!
Bill Clinton shoulda thought of this.
The Kavanaugh Unleashed: "I was a virgin until marriage. Take that all you drunken whores and sex fiends. "
How does the DC coven defeat that? Is it too late to switch to assassinating him with real lead bullets? If they try that, Kavanaugh will pull his 2nd Amendment privilege Glock and shoot them down.
I think it is highly possible that the scandalous and flimsy reports from Ronan Farrow and Michael Avanetti have damaged the credibility of Ford and made the entire process seem nothing more than a stunt. In fact, they have confirmed Kavanaugh.
Ford was too much to start with. A crazy cat lady.
....There's a real contrast to the carefully built up Blasey incident, and while the conflict with Blasey seemed to be too much of an unresolvable he said/she said, to say he said/she said was to elevate Blasey to equal status...
There’s a terrific insight here that I never considered: “he said/she said” imparts a kind of equivalence to both “he” and “she.”
There are instances when evidence pro and con or even just accusations and denials in certain contexts make equivalence seem an apt characterization.
But all the frailties and subsequent undermining of Ford’s story make equivalence an unfair and pretty big, thumb on the scales tip of the them her way.
It’s more than “he said/she said.” It’s that plus what “she said” not bearing up well under reasonable scrutiny.
Hah! You kidding me? These fuck heads at the NYT only regret piling on BS charges is no longer working sufficiently and don't want to go down with the whole Kavanaugh resistance ship as they can see its a lost cause. Kavanaugh is not withdrawing and he will be voted up or down this week. And god willing these fucking liars will go on record and perjure themselves to provide something actionable for Kavanaugh. That's the only way to bring sanity back to this process. Groundless accusations will no longer be cost free. A nice juicy lawsuit will take the fun out of it.
Kavanaugh cut out a young girl's heart through her vagina.
- plot of a Lautreamont story actually about the author raping the reader.
That's what's going on here. The left is raping the news audience.
Ronan Farrow's street cred just went to shit.
His mother is now out there screaming about Clarence Thomas.
Racist.
Apple, tree.
AA sez: "If the allegations are not true, Kavanaugh must stand his ground"
What allegations are these? Has she signed a sworn statement? Under penalty of perjury? Did she even sign the letter she purportedly wrote to DiFI? I saw an unsigned letter. Has she sat for an interview on TV with her husband?
There is a lot of lawyerly/media/senatorial "fog" surrounding these "allegations."
And Foggy allegations tend to lack credibility. If Kavanaugh unsuccessfully tried to take her clothes off in a bedroom, she'd remember the year/location/house where it happened.
Crazy cat women have poor memories, because they've detached themselves from reality.
"Althouse notes: “I think more sober Kavanaugh antagonists — such as the NYT — rue this development.”"
You gotta be f-ing kidding Althouse or you have a Yuge blindspot for these far left liberal bastards.
Tradguy: "How does the DC coven defeat that?"
Not to worry.
LLR Chucks lefty operational allies will come up with something.
It's time for the insane Dems to start considering the Revenge of The Kavanaugh. Jesus stayed silent at his trial and the cross, but Jesus did not have the swing vote on the SCOTUS to publish his decisions into stare decisis concrete.
I hope this circus of lies forces people to vote against the corruptocrats.
As a "survivor" by the left's definition, I cannot understand how she cannot remember any of this
I was falling down drunk but I remember everything.
Ya think that high school is so long ago, that it's in your past, that the antics of yesteryear were simply the means of learning some of life's lessons, that you've matured, and that the person you were then is not the person you are today.
Wrong.
On the composition side, you have to get just the right note dignity, anger and virtue. Who's clerking for this guy?
I don't doubt it's true but still you want maximal effect.
If it were me, I'd work up a one-liner.
Here's a nice story of a young woman of color getting her butt grabbed at a NYC subway station, and taking on the dude.
This is the type of women we like! Not a crazy-cat woman or pussy-hat wearing ditz.
Dickin'Bimbos@Home: "I hope this circus of lies forces people to vote against the corruptocrats."
No way! All, and I do mean all, of the LLR Chuck TruCons are screaming at the top of their lungs that we need to vote in these very same dems that would turn us into Marxist-ville.
Thats how you know they are the "True Conservatives"...their continuous flacking for the literally insane far left loonies.
We have reached a point where Kavanaugh is being criticized for protesting his innocence in advance of a thorough investigation. How can he be sure he was a virgin without seeing what the FBI or Democratic staffers might turn up?
You get a note of dignity and austerity by using "whom."
Whom is charging me with these things?
The gravitas of the NY Times and Washington Post is bullshit. No publication with serious standards would print a story about someone who said something happened in the early 1980s but can't say where and when it happened.
No law enforcement agency would take such an allegation very seriously. After a few questions when the story already starts shifting, any detective would just nod politely and ignore the complaint.
Rolling Stone magazine got hammered for millions because Jackie actually gave a date and location of her imaginary rape. So it was very easy to deny that it happened and have corroborating evidence (no party in the house that weekend).
Ford learned that lesson well. She isn't going to give a time, not even a fucking week or month. She's not even committing herself to say "summer of 1982."
She did finally settle on the four other people at the party at the Unknown House. The three guys denied it. Her friend denied it too. Said she didn't even know Kavanaugh.
Ford needs help. She's a nut.
No serious person would take her accusations seriously. It's the Dumbing Done of America.
I always thought that our last two Democratic presidents (Clinton, Obama) nominated three women to the Supreme Court as a way of correcting a long-standing imbalance and of currying favor with a large bloc of voters. Now, I"m beginning to wonder whether there wasn't an element of taking out insurance against a repeat of the Clarence Thomas fiasco. Maybe Republicans are going to wind up having to do something similar, at least for the foreseeable future.
Well, I gotta say, I feel a bit better about myself by getting laid in high school.
And, as a cherry on top (no pun intended), I connected with said conquest, er, I mean, first high school girlfriend via FB, and she said, hey, you're weren't a complete dork, and it wasn't half bad!
See, if you treat girls in high school and college nicely, they will eagerly put out.
If you hang out with leftwing, drunk, maladjusted, future cat ladies, all sorts of bad shit can happen.
As of this moment the Blasey Ford allegations are more like she-said (Ford, not subject to 18 USC 1001) vs. he-said+he-said+he-said+she-said (Kavanaugh, Judge, Smyth, Keyser, all subject to 18 USC 1001) (only subject to change after Thursday where it’s still her vs. 4 others).
As of this moment the Ramirez allegations are she-maybe-but-not-really-might-fuzzily remember vs. a whole multitude of he and she-saids that it’s not true or unlikely to be true.
Ford needs help. She's a nut.
What's that about "first time as tragedy, second time as farce"? That's what I think of this attempted character assassination by Democrats with Ford's theater.
Ford and Ramirez could claim Kavanaugh stood in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shot them and not lose any supporters.
@Florence,
As of this moment the Blasey Ford allegations are more like she-said (Ford, not subject to 18 USC 1001) vs. he-said+he-said+he-said+she-said (Kavanaugh, Judge, Smyth, Keyser, all subject to 18 USC 1001) (only subject to change after Thursday where it’s still her vs. 4 others).
As of this moment the Ramirez allegations are she-maybe-but-not-really-might-fuzzily remember vs. a whole multitude of he and she-saids that it’s not true or unlikely to be true.
Very studious and succinct. Well done. But you really need to incorporate the dildo factor into Ramirez' claims.
The virgin stuff is brilliant; a guy who stays a virgin that long in that environment is not the guy depicted by Ford or the new one. And it makes the calendar stuff believable. Read Ms. Ford's high school year book (conveniently disappeared from online when she made her allegations, but captured elsewhere). They were all sleeping with everyone, and the women bragged about it. Had BK wanted to get laid he could have. Does anyone doubt that?
I was disappointed by Ed Whelan's twitter excitement the other day, but maybe he did have the correct answer to all of this.
Maybe he's opened it up here. Says he was a virgin through high school, college. Ds will then start the next round. "When was the first time? With whom? Who else? Playboy or Penthouse? Does Mrs. K know about any of her predecessors?"
Yeah, the Ds will go there.
Watching the interviewer ask and re-ask The Kavanaugh why this is being done to him and where it comes from, He just repeated that he wants a fair hearing. But the steely cold look in his eyes was pure Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven.
I think most normal people were being polite about Ford. She's obviously a very messed up person. Her story is laughably thin and keeps changing. But people were being nice to her because they assumed something bad happened to her. They would let her have her say and they would have listened politely and probably supported Kavanaugh or turned on him if she did well.
The Dems had to go with Kavanaugh doesn't deserve the presumption of innocence to pump up Ford's allegations.
Then the whole creepy circus came to town and it feels unfair and obviously political. A good reminder why we have the presumption of innocence.
Now normal people can dismiss the whole terrible show.
A virgin??
Shit!! I would have dropped out of college if it weren't for all the nookie.
I just saw the interview and I was sickened. Here is a great judge and fine man and he has been completely slandered and slimed by the worst people in the world. The Dems will say or do anything to win. These are all LIES and I think people were paid.
The Judge said his focus in HS was being number one in his class and being captain of the basketball team. Being number one at a Jesuit high school is very difficult and very time consuming. I saw it with the top 10-20 guys in my class. And very few of those guys played two varsity sports.
Thursday will be a total and complete victory for Kavanaugh. CBF might not even show.
And again, I hope Kavanaugh fills the mother of all defamation lawsuits.
Like the drinking. It doesn't matter if he consensually had sex every night with a different person. His morality doesn't matter.
Just can you prove the accusation? They can't. So why are we even questioning him?
Like a Virgin was not being played too loudly on that stereo That Night That Summer in Possibly '82. Obviously would have been, a few years later.
I sometimes see Sheena Easton as being the pre-Madonna more than Pat Benatar. Likely debatable I know. You might get good odds that For Your Eyes Only was on the cassette at underage drunken prep school swimming parties if the ratio of females to males was higher, say 5:3.
Of course he was a virgin. All these brave survivors fought him off.
According to the blackout drunk theory propounded here recently Kavanaugh wouldn't remember having drunken sex so he can't be sure whether or not he was a virgin or if he train-raped a dozen coeds. Maybe he's impotent and he used a dildo or a trombone instead of his penis or maybe he doesn't have a penis - these things are essentially unknowable.
Would seem like a shame to miss out on the memory. Especially the trombone part.
Avenatti needs to be disbarred.
What does this mean?
"If the allegations are true... BK should minimize the relevance of the incident to the question of his qualification to serve on the Court."
Khematite:
Now, I"m beginning to wonder whether there wasn't an element of taking out insurance against a repeat of the Clarence Thomas fiasco. Maybe Republicans are going to wind up having to do something similar, at least for the foreseeable future.
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No. The gal they floated recently to replace Kennedy is a member of a religious "cult," dontcha know. There's not a person(R) alive they would NOT attempt to besmirch.
If this crap is enough to sink Kavanaugh, the Republicans might as well give up on appointing SC justices.
I’ll mention it again. In the Franklin Credit Union case in Omaha, Alisha Owen lied under oath about sex and drug parties with a judge, the police chief and prominent businessmen. She spent years in the state pen. Wondering if CBF is willing to take that risk.
Until Ford gives her statements under oath (with a criminal perjury warning ) everything she says is bullshit. Same for the other lying woman.
I'm listening to Fox News now and hearing Brit Hume saying something very close to what I said this morning.
Of course, some of us said it last night. Not that we are keeping score.
Unless the 5 people at The Party broke into someone's house, The Party had to be at one of the following
This is one of the things that has made this even more confused. Five people do not really constitute a "party." Maybe on a TV show, but I would not call it a party if there were only five people. That is simply some people getting together.
A party is a whole bunch of people, with beer, music, loud talking, etc.
I was a virgin until I begged and begged and begged.
What is exactly Ford going to testify to exactly? "I think these terrible things may or may not have happened while I was blind drunk" It would not surprise me to see the whole thing collapse wednesday night as Grassley refuses to more poison pill requests by Ford's counsel.
I think it is highly possible that the scandalous and flimsy reports from Ronan Farrow and Michael Avanetti have damaged the credibility of Ford and made the entire process seem nothing more than a stunt. In fact, they have confirmed Kavanaugh.
Very possibly with their yelling wolf in a crowded theater they have blown things permanently so that no one will ever trust them again. Another Ted Bundy could be nominated and no one would trust the Dems attacks against him. And that is a dangerous thing.
It would not surprise me to see the whole thing collapse wednesday night as Grassley refuses to more poison pill requests by Ford's counsel.
And by Feinstein, who claims the hearings should be delayed 'indefinitely' due to these additional allegations. I hope she gets unelected, even though her opponent is a sanctuary state advocate ultraProg.
At 300 years old, it is likely that Feinstein will not serve an entire six-year term.
Yes, the lady Feinstein is 300, but Grassley is not.
From my perspective, it is the norm for HS boys to be virgins entering college.
This is a true story. My girlfriend gave herself to me as my Graduation Gift at the Stone Mountain Inn.
Most exciting 10-12 seconds of my life.
=-If the allegations are true -- Althouse
Prove it.
If the allegations are true, he should have done something long ago.
He should have done something? He? Fucking Brett Kavanaugh? Him? Why not she, Althouse? Are fucking females too fucking lazy or stupid or timid to have done something long ago When Kavanaugh was still in high school? Or Yale? Or on the Federal Circuit bench. If females are too stupid or too lazy or too timid I move we abolish universal adult sufferage forthwith as they are clearly no more worthy of the franchise than any lower primate you care to specify.
Why is the onus on Kavanaugh? Is this a republic or a fucking monkey house. If all the flying bowel movements hurled by #MeToo investors are any indication it's a roadside exhibit run by drunken Gypsies.
Ugh. I took a look on Twitter. Never mind Ford and Ramirez, who of course are unquestionably believed by the faithful, gullible morons of the left, but they're all eating up the Avenatti gang-rape fantasies. They believe it. Absolutely. Not even just for fun, like ironically pretending to believe it to spit in the GOP's eye, it's just tweet after tweet of, "Oh, how can those evil Republicans live with themselves, nominating someone who plans gang rapes every weekend just for fun? This is what they're all like!"
Honestly, I can't believe people are that stupid. And not just dumbass kids. Like, Laurence Tribe. It's amazing. It's horrifying. It's depressing.
Quaestor -This. So far during this whole debacle I am waiting for the onus on the accuser to provide any proof or some logical explanation as to why we are hearing about 30+ years later. I am having a pretty hard time believing someone this promiscuous (by her own admission) is emotionally scared for life any more than I would believe Mae West would burst into tears if someone wolf whistled at her.
Fucking Tribe is speculating that maybe Gorsuch was in on the gang rapes. This is the fuckhead producing the next Harvard law grads who are marching toward the SCOTUS. Fuck us all, we're doomed.
Brian McKim and/or Traci Skene: "No. The gal they floated recently to replace Kennedy..."
Now that is a funny formulation...
This is what happens when the left is shut out of power for even a short while. I see it too. I was unfriended on FB when I asked a reliable lefty sparring partner "Why so anxious? You act like your side will never win an election again". I was responding to the "Gang rape train" garbage they were posting with alarm and terror. Look at it from their perspective all they have had to keep them warm is the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA Collusion and its clear even to them that is drying up. To add insult to injury Trump will have at least 2 SCOTUS picks. So yeah, they are losing it biggly.
I am not normally so exercised. However, this cruel neutrality schtick is looking more and more like sheer lizard-brained truculence of the kind we have come to expect of rap "artists" when they assume that folded arm scowl more fitting of a tantrum-inclined preschooler than an alleged adult, or in the case of Althouse honored scholar. Its as if all those sum cum laud matriculations she has enjoyed made no impression on her forebrain sufficient to control her limbic system.
What is exactly Ford going to testify to exactly? "I think these terrible things may or may not have happened while I was blind drunk" It would not surprise me to see the whole thing collapse wednesday night as Grassley refuses to more poison pill requests by Ford's counsel.
She has three SJW lawyers who no doubt have a team of assistants who have been coaching her for weeks.
Her story will have evolved by time she testifies. Plenty of remembered detail which will need to be investigated.
Only took six days for Ramirez to remember what had been forgotten for thiry some years.
" or in the case of Althouse honored scholar. Its as if all those sum cum laud matriculations she has enjoyed made no impression on her forebrain sufficient to control her limbic system."
There is nothing honored about her. She is a very shallow thinker and the sort of mediocre affirmative action hire that teach at many law schools. The only reason anyone ever heard of her is because Glenn Reynolds for some reason decided to link to her from Instapundit, and then the commenters provide the value and reason for continued traffic. That is it.
fivewheels said...t they're all eating up the Avenatti gang-rape fantasies. They believe it. Absolutely.
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Well..after that Presidential Pee Pee tape..who can blame them?
they've tried witch hunts, and that didnt work out.
Now they're going to sacrifice a virgin
Quaester,
We've locked horns before, but in this case we're a bit closer than usual. Look, there are many instances where we've seen Althouse run counter to the commentariat, but we've always seen the rational mind behind the conclusion regardless of agreement or no. And then there are situations like this.
Perhaps if you or I knew her on a day to day basis other than this blog, it would all make sense, but no this is one of those out there moments.
"ADDED: If the allegations are not true, Kavanaugh must stand his ground. If this effort to take him down works — if the allegations are not true — the same strategy will be used against the next nominee and the one after that. It will never end."
So just curious... if the allegations aren't true, we are informed about what Kavanaugh must do. He must stand his ground or this will be done again and again. Why would him standing his ground, or even his being confirmed, prevent it from happening again and again? The only consequence I'm seeing proscribed by Althouse is that BK must do something, but no word - is there even a thought? - to actually penalizing the woman who made up this story, or the Democrats who pushed it? Without consequences to THEM - instead of just what Kavanaugh "must" do - why would they stop doing it? Just because it didn't work this time doesn't mean it won't next time.
I'd like to hear what else has to happen if the allegations aren't true. A consequence for the people doing it. Doesn't that matter? Or is Kavanaugh the only one who has to deal with the consequences of false accusations?
To make that last point:
Clarence Thomas stood his ground.
Clarence Thomas got confirmed.
They're doing it again to Kavanaugh anyway.
Suggesting that Blasey EVER had legitimate "credence " is total BS. She and her promoters were clearly a despicable, shameless scam from the first day they 'launched' after weeks of confabulation and plotting. Almost equally despicable was the utter failure of the Republican-Conservatives to come out of their self-loving, Burke quoting 'rationality 'trance to deal with a ruthless, cutthroat attack by their fake Senatorial 'colleagues' and their gangster Media partners. They never, ever learn the Chicago Rules - they just cluck tongues in 'opinion pieces' virtually no-one reads but them. They spend all their time pleading their 'concern' for the lying accusers while they do not a damn thing to support and defend their accused. They are just begging their "base" to turn their back and simply go out to buy guns and water.
Qwinn,
Same comment I made to Quaester absent the earlier history.
Fivewheels laments: Honestly, I can't believe people are that stupid.
They are mind-controlled zombies. How it happened is uncertain but it's a little scary.
And then there are situations like this.
I've come to the conclusion that cruel neutrality and #MeToo-ism are mutually contradictory. Althouse is trying to square the circle in this Kavanaugh business. Have some chemical experiments she perhaps performed on herself in the Sixties returned in the form of erratic brain activity? Sad if true. They say Timothy Leary's brain conked out long before his body temperature went ambient.
"Or is Kavanaugh the only one who has to deal with the consequences of false accusations?"
lol, you're suggesting accountability for women. Ford, Ramirez or Feinstein. Magic 8-ball says "Not Fucking Likely."
Quaestor said..."I've come to the conclusion that cruel neutrality and #MeToo-ism are mutually contradictory. Althouse is trying to square the circle in this Kavanaugh business."
Ha. I just used the phrase "squaring the circle" about this in the following post.
A lot of wood shavings to be seen of late.
I am Laslo.
In the movie about East Germany before the wall fell, The Lives of Others, the point is made by an interrogator that liars, i.e., the guilty, repeat their lies word for word, even under torture, and cry or laugh as they near breaking, then tell the truth. Honest people, i.e, the innocent, eventually break their story into more detail, and embellish or diminish aspects during retelling. Then they get mad at being interrogated, and angry as hell at the injustice of the accusations.
Which one is Ford doing? Which one is Kavanaugh doing?
and now the Dems, like sharks, are circling the 'Square'
gg6 said...Suggesting that Blasey EVER had legitimate "credence " is total BS. She and her promoters were clearly a ...
So the plan was to drop these two sequential duds after Ford in order to burnish Ford?
"Now, Kavanaugh antagonists have escalated the attack and seem willing — some of them, anyway — to use anything."
"Now" they "seem" willing to use anything? WTF?
"I think more sober Kavanaugh antagonists — such as the NYT — rue this development."
Yeah, because even to the Kavanaugh-must-have-a-dark-side and Ford-is-believable-cuz-she-emotes Althouses the absurdity and malice are "now" obvious.
If only a nice little reasonable smear would have sufficed.
No doubt about it. This stuff is nuclear.
It's so nuclear that you re glowing in the dark. Let go !
But Avenatti says he has a third woman who's complaining about gang rapes, etc. My head is spinning.
I'm sure it is. You are one sick puppy.
“Carefully built up” sounds like it’s dishonest not genuine, but Althouse is arguing it’s the more genuine sounding charge. Is Althouse really so confused?
Ford named 4 witnesses. All say it did not happen. But Althouse wants to make this about sincerity. People sincerely believe faulty memories. Let me repeat the. People can sincerely believe their memories even when they are faulty.
This isn't going to end until November, just in time for the centenary of the end of WW I. Both sides fought up until the very end: The Great War didn't peter out -- it went out with a bang. Millions of shells were expanded and thousands of casualties happened in the last few hours. Both sides had to get the last shot in -- even though the end was known.
I just now wondered when our own fireworks finale traditional started. I don't mean the tradition of fireworks, but rather the way it traditionally ends. It certainly has always been that way in my living memory -- which only goes back to the middle '60's.
"listen, son-- let me give you some sound advice. Fuck women.
I mean that in every sense. Fuck 'em."
"But isnt that wrong? Wont that be hurtful to them and me?"
"What difference, at this point, does it make, son. See what happened to that Kavanaugh guy? Decent guy, kept his nose clean, worked his ass off all the way to the Supreme Court. Didnt matter. It wont matter for you, either. Dont think building a good character will save you. Some bitch will come out of the woodwork at the last minute with some crazy-ass shit about how you 'raped her' 50 years ago, and you're fucked. You're the one who's really fucked. And it wont matter she has no proof, and everyone who knows you says it aint true. You're fucked!"
So you may as well FUCK THEM before they fuck you.
mccullough said...
Unless the 5 people at The Party broke into someone's house, The Party had to be at one of the following:
Bingo!
So, "Dr. Ford", which house was it?
Then let's compare the inside of their house, to her story.
Mark said...
I think it is highly possible that the scandalous and flimsy reports from Ronan Farrow and Michael Avanetti have damaged the credibility of Ford and made the entire process seem nothing more than a stunt. In fact, they have confirmed Kavanaugh.
Very possibly with their yelling wolf in a crowded theater they have blown things permanently so that no one will ever trust them again. Another Ted Bundy could be nominated and no one would trust the Dems attacks against him. And that is a dangerous thing.
There is nothing, ever, "dangerously wrong" about cutting the power of Democrats.
Qwinn said...
To make that last point:
Clarence Thomas stood his ground.
Clarence Thomas got confirmed.
They're doing it again to Kavanaugh anyway.
Yes, but Clarence Thomas is black
They figured it's be different doing it agains the ultimate evil: a white heterosexual cis-male Republican
If it fails here, they are going to go really nuts, because their arsenals will be dry
"Clarence Thomas stood his ground.
Clarence Thomas got confirmed.
They're doing it again to Kavanaugh anyway."
Clarence Thomas perjured himself onto the court. Kavanaugh has the same game plan. Kavanaugh has a brain, Thomas doesn't. Kavanaugh should still be defeated, especially now that his college pranks, and misdeeds have come to light. All hard-right-wingers should be defeated, nay pulverized.
”If the allegations are not true, Kavanaugh must stand his ground. If this effort to take him down works — if the allegations are not true — the same strategy will be used against the next nominee and the one after that. It will never end.”
It’s taken you a week to figure this out.
Now he has done it. The Left just hates 'virginity' (/s).
That said, the whole thing is sickening. One can only hope that the same 'standards' now will be used by the Right on the Left. Not that there is much hope in that.
I also wonder why everybody acts as if Ford is anything but a despicable person.
As far as I'm concerned she is doing a hit job with malice aforethought. Feeling herself safe from Kavenaugh because he is a 'public figure' and Judge since he isn't in a position to fight back because of his past.
Trumpit wrote: Kavanaugh has a brain, Thomas doesn't.
Trumpit wrote: All [who oppose my politics] should be defeated, nay pulverized.
Typical Nazi racism. Typical Nazi genocidal tendencies. Got your brown shirt neatly pressed, Trumpit?
If this effort to take him down works — if the allegations are not true — the same strategy will be used against the next nominee and the one after that. It will never end.
Of course, this was the same strategy used on Judge Moore. What's disappointing is the people pulling this stunt won't be punished for it.
Well, I just had a very interesting experience. I came across a USAtoday story;my senator, Tom Carper,(the only D aye vote last time) explained that having seen Kavanaugh's jurisprudence over the past 12 years, he strongly disapproved. So I popped into Carper's website to see if there was more.
Nothing foregrounded,but on the mailto page there was a list of 10 issues, one of which was "Judicial nominations". So I clicked.
Now Tom is big on the EPA and Kavanaugh has ruled against it-and other agencies,a good bit.Next, I wrote him;I was sympathetic. I said hey, vote no;that's cool. I would really be impressed if you could stress that in a public statement and add that you don't like this process. I also said that it appeared to me that the real fear of the Party was this agency-limiting approach and that 'save Roe" was a tactic and a distraction;it fires up the base, grabs the coverage, makes the nominee a villain--all good,sure helps.
Now, I was a practicing lawyer, but not a constitutional lawyer, so I'll ask our guide to correct and enlarge. Our nominee has a thing about separation of powers and how much power the executive or the congress can delegate without violating their respective constitutional duties.
A bit later, I went back to the Carper site to hand copy the text. The issue "Judicial nominations" was gone.
Are the ladies being played?
Yes, Kavanaugh has no ethical choice, assuming innocence, but to stand and fight.
And I have no ethical choice but to fight for his nomination.
Not least of my current absolute antipathy for, and rejection of, the Democratic party is that they have forced me into a situation in which I really don't have any option but to fight for this guy's nomination, thus depriving me of the option of asking for another choice.
Because they HAD to make the stakes the integrity of the process itself, they deprived a lot of thinking citizens of normal choices.
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, article 11, states: "Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence."
Not surprising to me, is that someone does not understand this principle.
UHDR? How about the US Constitution, which in the US is actually binding on citizens?
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