July 1, 2017

Trump blames NBC bosses for his troubles with Joe and Mika and points to the ousting of Greta Van Susteren as evidence.

Trump, not backing down, keeps tweeting about Joe and Mika, but he's not just standing his ground. He's advancing the theory. Here's his most recent tweet, from 2 hours ago:
Crazy Joe Scarborough and dumb as a rock Mika are not bad people, but their low rated show is dominated by their NBC bosses. Too bad!
That's his second shot at NBC this morning. Earlier he tweeted:
Word is that @Greta Van Susteren was let go by her out of control bosses at @NBC & @Comcast because she refused to go along w/ 'Trump hate!'
In between those 2 tweets, he attacked that other network:
I am extremely pleased to see that @CNN has finally been exposed as #FakeNews and garbage journalism. It's about time!
Those 3 tweets cohere into the theory that the bosses at NBC — like the bosses at CNN who were "exposed" in the Project Veritas video — are not following decent principles of journalism but chasing ratings. They think "Trump hate" works and they've pushed Joe, Mika, and Greta and only Greta had the guts and ethics to say no. Mika and Joe wouldn't be doing Trump hate on their own — they're not bad people — but they've got to perform in the ratings and they're following orders.

That's the theory I read in this morning's tweets.

The theory Althouse outlines is...
 
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148 comments:

sunsong said...

Looks like he's backing down - lol

Michael K said...

It's morning so the trolls are probably still asleep.

Kevin said...

"Looks like he's backing down - lol"

By adding a charge of spinelessness?

rhhardin said...

Trump is hammering in a wedge. Now Greta is a friend, if she wasn't before.

The Joe and Mika wedge is tentative.

The bosses are on the other side. Don't trust bosses.

rhhardin said...

Try the Guardian ex editor. takes a couple of listenings. Ignore as expected the bad guy Trump and the good guy NYT example, from a leftist; he goes into correctly what's happening to the news industry.

Just take the examples as leftist inverted vision. He gets the rest right.

https://www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and-events/a-world-without-news

The audio alone option is fine.

Yancey Ward said...

It really is all about the ratings, and repeat customers are a big part of the whoring business.

rhhardin said...

Of course the MSM is after ratings, by the way. Ever since it was made a profit center instead of a public service loss leader, in the 70s I guess.

They discovered soap opera women. Any network not doing soap opera will lose money, the exception being disgust at the media media like Fox, which are parasitic on that.

Trump is trying to decouple the entertainment choice of soap opera from its power to edit national debate. Once that's achieved, we can talk about things without being edited by soap opera women, which is to say PC.

Jupiter said...

"Now Greta is a friend, if she wasn't before."

Except that she is a Scientologist, which means that her brain isn't actually functional.

Once written, twice... said...

"Chasing ratings"? So now Trump is criticizing capitalism?

Hagar said...

It is way beyond "chasinng ratings." It is personal.

I think Sharyl Attkisson has analyzed and expressed it best.

traditionalguy said...

The Wide World of Sports-DC style..the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat.

We watched DJT's victory over CNN this week, and that brings up next the agony of defeat for crushing NBC.

If Trump was smart, he would pay wall his Twitter account. But then he is an amateur and takes no pay for serving his Great Country

Kevin said...

"Trump is hammering in a wedge. Now Greta is a friend, if she wasn't before.

The Joe and Mika wedge is tentative."

Trump seems to be raising the stakes. Rather then go after the personalities who are easily replaced, he's after the networks and their owners who are the continuing players.

Once written, twice... said...

Trump jumped the shark with the Mika twitter. They were questioning his mental state and he quickly provided ample proof that he is unhinged. Only his most vulgar supporters are standing behind him. Most Republican elected office holders are fleeing him.

What is Trump's grand strategy here? Besides keeping everyone entertained?

Achilles said...

Trump is going after the people pulling the strings. At some point he will note they all use the same words and reading one is pretty much reading them all.

David Begley said...

Althouse writes the best poll questions in the Universe.

Love the polls!

Bob Boyd said...

"Trump jumped the shark with the Mika twitter. They were questioning his mental state and he quickly provided ample proof that he is unhinged."

How many times have we heard that in the last two years?
Next week we'll be talking about a whole new outrage.

EDH said...

How do these two anti-Trump networks refute this explanation?

Once written, twice... said...
"Chasing ratings"? So now Trump is criticizing capitalism?

Chasing ratings down the toilet, maybe.

Capitalism doesn't predict all firms act rationally, especially those wearing ideological blinders.

The free market is the correcting mechanism that will punish them.

Achilles said...

"Only his most vulgar supporters are standing behind him. Most Republican elected office holders are fleeing him."

Trump will get more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. By a long ways.

Please just keep doing what you are doing. 2018 is going to be an absolute wipeout for democrats. Hopefully after the next 7.5 years of being completely humiliated in elections some decent second option in elections forms on the left.

Drago said...

Trump jumped the shark with the Mika twitter.

This is easily the 197th time Trump has supposedly "jumped the shark".

The entire point of using the phrase "jump the shark" is to connote the very moment when you've past a point of no return, no exceptions.

It wasn't enough for the lefties/LLR allies to have ruined the racist!, Nazi!, Misogynist!, etc epithets, they've now also added "jump the shark" to their "canon" of worn out accusations.

All in a days work I suppose.

David Begley said...

What if Greta writes a quickie e-book exposing the truth about MSNBC?

She could self-publish and self-distribute on the web and capture all of the margin. Major payday and she becomes a hero,

100,000 copies at $10 and her cost of production is about $50,000 or less.

Once written, twice... said...

My favorite Trump twitter today is the one where he calls Justin Trudeau "his new found friend." It makes him sound like a four year old. (Using kids voice) "Justy is my NEW found friend! Do you like him?"

You just know they are laughing at that one in Ottawa. The Canadian PM is having to put up today with people joking with him..."I hear you have a new found friend?"

robother said...

"Trump has jumped the shark." Trump IS the shark. MikaJoe is the Fonz.

David said...

This is easily the 197th time Trump has supposedly "jumped the shark".


Be fair. There are a lot of sharks out there.

Jonathan Graehl said...

People who don't like Trump claim to believe that his sense of humor is evidence he's 'unhinged' and assorted other hysterical labels. Question: why do they come here to claim it? Surely we all see it for what it is and are unmoved.

Once written, twice... said...

Hey, if you think spending all of the Fourth of July weekend discussing just how nuts is Trump is good for your side, then don't let me dissuade you.

Bob Boyd said...

Trump is training the shark to jump through hoops.

Quaestor said...

This Althouse poll appears to cover all possibilities, which unfortunately make it an outlier, at least in my case. Most of Althouse's questionnaires have left some gap (or chasm) in the continuum of opinions which have usually left me unable to honestly participate or respond in a compromised manner (e.g. Response B doesn't fit, but it is at least closer than A, C, and D).

Covering the bases with a set mutually exclusive replies seems to work.

Once written, twice... said...

How's that conservative agenda doing in the Republican congress?

If Trump was such the Master Strategist you would think he would have signed at least one major piece of legislation by now.

Unknown said...

And, stuck right in the middle of those tweets is:

Donald Trump: "Numerous states are refusing to give information to the very distinguished VOTER FRAUD PANEL. What are they trying to hide?"

Oh, really - a VOTER FRAUD PANEL.

Also, how about you show us your TAX RETURNS and we'll show you ours.

The results of the poll show what schmucks Trumpski's are.

TWW said...

My view, which is not an explicit choice in the survey, is that most people think it's a mess but Trump looks at it as organized chaos that will ultimately result in him winning and the media cast as villains.

So far, so good.

Quaestor said...

Hey, if you think spending all of the Fourth of July weekend discussing just how nuts is Trump is good for your side, then don't let me dissuade you.

"Once written" didn't bother to read anything before shoehorning his prefab stab into the dialectic. As usual,

Laslo Spatula said...
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Laslo Spatula said...

The Media is put to an interesting defensive.

The move Trump makes: you Media want to defend your actions? Here: begin with Joe and Mika. Defend them as journalists. I dare you.

I imagine, say, Anderson Cooper -- or any NYT reporter -- sees himself as well above the likes of bottom-feeders Joe and Mika: how much of their self-perceived Integrity do they want to put on the line defending those two dolts?

How much kinship does Rachel Maddow feel for cheap-goods Mika?

Trumps is corralling them together: their instinct is going to be to distance themselves from the weak.

The media Caste System is beginning to be tested.

Pride is being pricked.

The pecking order WILL be pecked.

I am Laslo.

Jupiter said...

"Hopefully after the next 7.5 years of being completely humiliated in elections some decent second option in elections forms on the left."

That would seem to me to be impossible by definition. Are you just making pious obeisance to our civic idol, Democracy? In a society racing off the cliff of unbridled self-indulgence, it will always and necessarily be the Left leading the charge.

Once written, twice... said...

How can Trump's few supporters who are willing to go on TV and defend him say with a straight face that he is facing unfair criticism when he is out there calling Mika "Dumb as a rock" and Joe "psycho"?

Mike said...

The wife chimes in with "Mika is the blood in the water."

Quaestor said...

Oh, really - a VOTER FRAUD PANEL.

Yes, REALLY.

And WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?

Voter registration rolls are neither private property nor confidential. By law, they are open to public inquiry by anyone. Perhaps the brilliant Unknown can offer a non-sinister explanation of their policy of non-cooperation.

Once written, twice... said...

Nobody but Trump and his vulgarian supporters believe that Joe and Mika are harder on him than Hanniety was on President Obama. The sense of self proclaimed victimhood shared by Trump and his dwindling number of supporters is quite funny.

Mike said...

Easy, Once. Her defenders are now in the position of arguing she's not really that dumb. Similar to the weak "it was only a chin tuck" yesterday. Trump exposes the absurd newsertainment complex. You like to call Trump and his voters dumb but compared to his critics, he ain't that dumb. That's how it works.

Michael K said...

The trolls seem to have awakened early today.

Only his most vulgar supporters are standing behind him. Most Republican elected office holders are fleeing him.

There is an old canard about "The Stupid Party" and some may be trying to validate it.

Much of this, I suspect, is a tug of war between donors and the elected reps who want to get elected again.

It's a little early for lefties to brag about a lack of legislation.

Bob Boyd said...

Mika is essentially a set decoration.

Z said...

How much more effective it would be if Trump stayed as angry but added some dignity to his tweets, asking for civility before the truly uncivil cable channels did so disingenuously, making them look like they took the high road.
Ratings way up for MSNBC. CNN was finally being shown for the liars they've been on the Russia thing, via the Project Veritas videos, but they're now on top again, having sided with the MSNBC crowd's complaints to the Trump tweets. Please, Mr. Trump....start showing you're taking the high road. The mainstream media'd be lost without you to push around....yet you keep coming out punching for their responses. And they seem to be winning the tweeting war. It's one thing to fight his legislation, another thing to be given the ability to fight his personality, sanity, maturity.

Achilles said...

Blogger Once written, twice... said...
"How can Trump's few supporters who are willing to go on TV and defend him say with a straight face that he is facing unfair criticism when he is out there calling Mika "Dumb as a rock" and Joe "psycho"?"

Trump has millions of supporters who would love to go on TV and support him.

The people who control the media won't let them on.

You don't seem to understand that Trump having the political class entire as an enemy is endearing to the majority of voters. We hate D.C. republicans and cucks too.

Once written, twice... said...

Michael K,

Trump's legislative agenda (to the degree he has one) has been a big nothing-burger so far. Compare that to the major legislative successes that President Obama had by this point in his presidency.

Fen said...

Drago knocks down the stupid "jump the shark" metaphor better than my post would have. Know your memes, Lefties.

So I'll just address the innane "media is just capitalism" nonsense. ABC CBS NBC CNN PBS MSNBC NPR WaPo NYTs... all selling the same stale Democrat propaganda. Does that sound like a free market or a Monopoly?

If we had a media motivated by capitalism, their wouldn't be an underground market for conservative thought on AM radio. The only reason talk radio exists is because conservatives were pushed out of the MSM and decided to set up a parallel venue to express their pov.

Cacimbo Cacimbo said...

Agree NBC bosses are pushing anti-Trump agenda. Unsure how Joe (who appears to have been friendly with Trump at some point) would behave without the pressure. Rush told a story on Thursday that Joe and Mika invited themselves to his studio a few years ago. They had a lovely visit and Rush gifted them with ipads. Then shortly after the visit they completely trashed him on their show.

Earnest Prole said...

Please God stop Donald Trump and the media from whatever they're doing today.

Fen said...

Uknown: "tax returns"

Oh right. The crowd that's been caterwauling for 6 months about the election being hacked claim we can't look at voter fraud until Trump lets them do a witch hunt on his tax returns. Priceless.

Bob Boyd said...

"Compare that to the major legislative successes that President Obama had by this point in his presidency."

Since those "major legislative successes" the Democrats have lost over 1100 seats nationwide, in the name of stimulus spending a trillion dollars was looted from the national treasury with nothing to show for it and even his most ardent supporters in the MSM are admitting Obamacare is a developing crisis and something must done immediately.
Maybe there's something to this idea of taking the time to do things right.

Once written, twice... said...

The whole "cuck" thing is just so classy. For those of you who don't know, a cuck is a man who just watches as his wife has sex with another (usually a black) man.

Using the term "cuck" is beneath the dignity of your average fourteen year old. I am sorry it is now getting a foothold on Ann's blog.

rcocean said...

Obviously, the bosses at NBC are pushing the "Trump hate" or they wouldn't have allowed MSNBC to become a cesspool of vitriol and Crazed Leftism. But this is a network that used to star crazy low IQ ex-Sportscaster keith Olbermann. So, its not all about trump, its about the NBC news execs being Left-wingers.

And Trump is just doing what Pols always do. "Hey, Joe and Mika aren't bad people (just crazy and stupid) - its their bosses".

Which actually digs the knife in deeper, since he's implying Joe/Mika are actually weak-willed liars who do whatever their bosses tell them.

Fen said...

Trump just had a great diplomatic sit down with South Korean leadership. Media hacks won't tell you, but it was a huge success.

So apparently it's possible to knock CNN and MSNBC on their heels while simultaneously fixing a foreign policy mess Trump inherited from Obama.

rcocean said...

"Trumps is corralling them together: their instinct is going to be to distance themselves from the weak."

Great point. Getting rid of video at press briefings had the same effect. CNN and NBC were very upset, the NYT and WaPo writers not so much.

Fen said...

Once: "Using the term "cuck" is undignified, you racist sexist homophobic xenophobic teabagging deplorable toothless rednecks who bitterly cling to guns and god while fucking your sister in your doublewide"

Well okay then.

Michael K said...

Compare that to the major legislative successes that President Obama had by this point in his presidency.

I swear you must stand in front of a mirror practicing this.

Here is a WaPo list of his accomplishments July 1,2009.

Gay pride.

Withdrawing from Iraq.

Go ahead and regale us with his "accomplishments."

You people (I think you are female) are in line for a comedian award.

Hagar said...

ABC CBS NBC CNN PBS MSNBC NPR WaPo NYTs... are all owned by other corporations dependent on Government bureaucracy goodwill in their business - except PBS, NPR, which effectively are Government agencies.

Livermoron said...

Cutting illegal immigration by 70% is a good start. Cleaning out thousands of burdensome regulations is a good start. A sudden spurt of economic growth is a good start. Pushing back on the dishonest media is a good start. Attacking voter fraud is a good start. Getting Nato members to pay there fair share is a good start. Getting "Kate's Law" passed is a good start.

If he were really doing nothing, why would you be complaining so hard?

Michael K said...

Rush told a story on Thursday that Joe and Mika invited themselves to his studio a few years ago. They had a lovely visit and Rush gifted them with ipads. Then shortly after the visit they completely trashed him on their show.

I linked to that transcript. The similarity to the Trump thing is amazing.

Maybe they are getting marching orders.

Rene Saunce said...

Bigly plausible. Highly righty.

wwww said...



He's advancing a narrative, but WHAT is the GOAL?

More attention raises ratings of the news shows. Morning Joe will get a ratings bump. Mika's star power goes up.

These tweets do nothing for the position of the US in the world.

The President is acting as if a celeb news anchor is worth his time. The leader of the free world don't have time for this.

If DJT has a wider strategy here that benefits his Presidency or the Country, I cannot see it.



Achilles said...

Blogger Once written, twice... said...
"The whole "cuck" thing is just so classy. For those of you who don't know, a cuck is a man who just watches as his wife has sex with another (usually a black) man."

Race is only injected by racists like you.

And hillbilly racist misogynist murderer are all so much classier. Hypocrite barely begins to describe you.

tcrosse said...

Using the term "cuck" is beneath the dignity of your average fourteen year old.

Likewise the term "Hillbilly".

Rene Saunce said...

The biggest story, all the time, as it over-shadows everything - is our Pravda media.

Gusty Winds said...

We've been waiting decades for someone to have the guts to push back on the media. Enjoy!

Unknown said...

"I swear you must stand in front of a mirror practicing this."

The economy after the financial crisis.

What a dingbat just like all Trumpski's with selected memories.

Again and always true: EMPTY VESSELS MAKE THE MOST NOISE

Achilles said...

Blogger wwww said...


"He's advancing a narrative, but WHAT is the GOAL? "

What has been the left's goal by calling us racist evil murderer Hitlers for the last 30 years?

You have been punching us below the belt for decades and you ask that question? Look in the mirror.

Rene Saunce said...

What a coincidence. I'm off to Trumpskis bar for a celebratory cocktail.

F the corrupt liar left. *dink*

David Begley said...

Does Greta go rogue? From her Twitter feed,

"Book is out Nov 14! (And if all goes as planned, my app is out this summer...)"

Fen said...

Kevin: Trump seemd to be raising the stakes, instead of going after Mika and Joe, he is- "

It's classic Trump. He hits his targets with something outrageous, and while they are stammering and stuttering, he's inside their OODA loop, setting up the knockout blow.

Okay okay, just kidding. We all know that Trump is an idiot blowhard who just happens to be the luckiest man on earth. There's no other possible explanation, right Hillary?

I swear, it's just so amazing to sit back and watch as Trump keeps bringing runners home. And hearing the Left's fake protests of "keep on hitting doubles, you're playing right into our hands" is even better.

Only sour spot is the realization that these are the same idiots the Republican Cucks kept losing to year after year. We are going to need A LOT of rope.

Fen said...

Once: "if you are going to spend all game hiting doubles and triples, don't let me disuade you"

No prob.

WHACK!

Gusty Winds said...

Trump is right. The messaging is all coordinated between the media complex and the Democrats. That's the real corrupt collusion. If Trump can frame the people in front of the camera as narcissistic pawns, he'll paralyze them. That's good.

And his voters love the push back. These people insult all who voted for Trump for good reason. When he defends himself and punches back, he is also defending, and paerhaps expanding his base.

Enjoy!

rcocean said...

?"The whole "cuck" thing is just so classy. For those of you who don't know, a cuck is a man who just watches as his wife has sex with another (usually a black) man."

Complete Lie. The "cuck" comes from Cuckold.

Cuckservative is an insult label for weak-kneed so-called conservatives who roll over at every opportunity for the Left. Cf: Rod Dreher, Erick Erickson, Glenn Beck, etc.

Its been very effective, so the cucks fought back with "racist, racist you dirty racist" - which again simply shows that they're not real conservatives but liberals with a few conservative positions.

DavidD said...

"Crazy Joe Scarborough and dumb as a rock Mika...."

At some point, he's gotta start sounding Presidential, right?

Did Washington or Lincoln ever talk like this?

What's the long game here?

rcocean said...

One mark of a cuckservative is their obsession with racism. Like liberals they'd rather die then called a "racist". And if you gave them a choice between George Washington and Castro, they' pick Castro - because he didn't own slaves.

Fen said...

Once: "for those who don't know, cuck is a term for-"

You didn't even get it right. That's the porno term, odd you would that was your first assumption. Been getting off on fantasy vids of your wife forcing you to watch another man have sex with her, eh? Interesting tell.

NO. The term 'cuck' comes from 'cuckhold'. It's a man who unkowingly raises a child that is not his. His wife cheated on him, got pregnant, and then lied and said it was his. It's an insult to manhood.

Mark said...

Trump is being unduly kind (or just overly diplomatic) in saying things like "they are not bad people" and are "doing this for the ratings."

It is clear that the presumption of good faith that we owe people has long been rebutted in the case of the Trump-attackers. For them, it is both personal and ideological. Furthermore, there comes a time when those who exhibit hate become hate.

As for the MSM, it was admitted in the last year (by folks at the NYT) that they are no longer in the business of reporting news. Rather, they are in the business of promoting a pre-determined narrative. Consequently, previous ethical standards concerning news-reporting do not apply.

In this new order, journalists (they cannot rightly be called reporters) are told to go find stories to fit the narrative. At the same time, news events are viewed, distorted, and conveyed to the audience through the lens of that narrative, such that every tiny little thing that Trump does is reported as evidence of his evilness, incompetence, mental instability, etc. So the story gets told that Trump, when he got out of bed this morning, put his right foot down first is PROOF that he hates Democrats and wants them all to DIE.

It is not about ratings. It is about the narrative and the ideological agenda.

rcocean said...

"Crazy Joe Scarborough and dumb as a rock Mika are not bad people, but their low rated show is dominated by their NBC bosses. Too bad!"

I always love how Trump gets the maximum amount of insults in the fewest words.

And the sign off is always classic Trump "Sad" "I said no" "Too Bad"

LOL.

Gusty Winds said...

Psycho Joe's latest music video is embarrassing to watch. It's unoriginal. The music is horrible. Did he actually watch the thing and think it wa good? Talk about jumping the shark.

Trump wins by getting Joe and Mika more exposure. Their arrogance and mediocrity makes you want to puke. The side characters on the show are worse.

Donny Deutsch is everything flyover country cant stand. No socks and shiny leather shoes. And he says meet me in the school yard to fight to the POTUS last week? Just with that Trump beat him.

Get it Donny Douchebag?

Fen said...

"These tweets do nothing to advance the US position in the world"

Neither does my tuna casserole.

Michael K said...

" I cannot see it."

We know.

Achilles said...

Blogger DavidD said...

"At some point, he's gotta start sounding Presidential, right?"

Are you people ever going to think for yourselves? The answer is he is acting like a president. A democrat president. The only difference is he is pushing conservative(mostly) policies and he doesn't have a fawning media.

This is why the left is going to continue it's long losing streak in elections. The voters are not thinking for themselves.

rcocean said...

Forget the border, the SCOTUS, and not being Hillary.

Trump's election was worth it, just to see the twitter attacks on the MSM.

Fen said...

It's my fault, I start out dicing onions fully intending my tuna casserole will advance the US position in the world, but somewhere along the way I keep getting distracted.

I'm so sorry World.

Bruce Hayden said...

Here is the blood in the water - "Crazy" Joe isn't that bad, but "stupid (as a rock)" Mika? Just like Lying Ted and Crooked Hillary, it is going to stick, and that will likely hang over her for much of her remaining professional life. These nicknames stick because there is enough truthiness in them. Henceforth, even many of the leftists on her side are going to question her IQ every time she says something even remotely stupid or brain dead. And whenever their show does something out of the ordinary, everyone will remover that it was Crazy Joe and bleeding face, dumb as a rock Mika. Remember, the left think that they are the smart people. Crazy Joe is, of course, supposed to still be a Republican at heart, and Stupid Mika is, well, stupid - which is likely to be fairly devastating to a, supposedly smart, woman

Fen said...

"What's the long game here"

Total destruction of the Democrat Hate-Mongering Propaganda Machine. Otherwise known as a Sea Change

Kinda like flipping the Rust Belt from blue to red for 3 generations.

But mostly, it's about ALIENS. Mostly.

William said...

Trump was an NBC star and a major one. I think this might have influenced their coverage of him. Many execs were expecting him to abandon his campaign and go back to the Apprentice. They didn't want to portray The Apprentice host as an overweight, mentally disturbed, piss freak misogynist with penis issues, bad hair, and incestuous designs on his daughter. Bad for ratings. They went easy on him in the beginning .....Trump may have mistaken all the chummy feelings that people at NBC expressed for him as signs of friendship rather than as professional courtesies. Maybe he feels betrayed.....If so, he is entitled to those feelings. It was NBC that caused the release of that tape. They didn't have anything against an NBC star expressing such sentiments, but their high moral standards wouldn't allow such conduct in a presidential candidate--or at least a Republican one. Trump was allowed to host SNL and the imitations were good natured. Then, when he became President, Baldwin with all his malice was debuted. He was a frequent guest on Morning Joe. Maybe the subtext was that of an NBC star subliminally plugging his show, but they all pretended to be sch good friends......I wonder how much of this Trump takes personally.

Achilles said...

I want Trump's next tweet to be a link to this: Obama flashing his erection on a plane at simpering giggling female reporters.

Just to remind democrats what presidential is of course.

roesch/voltaire said...

The tweeter in chief has to do something with his little hands to entertain his base,as seen on this blog, meanwhile Bernstein has called this a" malignant presidency" with more folks calling into question Trump's abilities to govern.

Fen said...

What Bruce said. Crazy Joe. Stupid Mika.

And to add to Bruce's point, in the future every "journalist" is going to carefully consider whether going out of bounds is worth the risk of becoming the next Stupid Mika.

I wanted to accomplish the same lesson with C4 but Trump said: "Bad Fen. Go home. So sad!"

Fen said...

Trump supporters are also having a blast.

Rule #6 A useful tactic is one your people enjoy

"Alinksy you bastard, I read your book!" - President Trump

Achilles said...

roesch/voltaire said...
The tweeter in chief has to do something with his little hands to entertain his base,as seen on this blog, meanwhile Bernstein has called this a" malignant presidency" with more folks calling into question Trump's abilities to govern.

Do you honestly think that was an intelligent comment? Do you know how transparent and empty that was?

I am really trying to help you out here.

FullMoon said...

roesch/voltaire said...

The tweeter in chief has to do something with his little hands to entertain his base,as seen on this blog, meanwhile Bernstein has called this a" malignant presidency" with more folks calling into question Trump's abilities to govern.
7/1/17, 12:52 PM


And you imagine yourself to be intelligent. SAD!
Educated, right? Former teacher? Fixated on Trump's dick size. Pathetic.

Michael K said...

"more folks calling into question Trump's abilities to govern."


More lefty folks trying to sound serious. How do you talking points arrive ? E-mail or by texts on your iPhone?

You really need better material.

Breezy said...

So the whole National Enquirer tangent was part of a coordinated brushback from NBC (not just J&M), which now has Trump setting his sights on the bosses....?? interesting...

As an aside, I have noticed that Mika has injected the phrase "know your value" a few times in all of this, which is the name of her book. Never let a crisis (or PR fiasco) go to waste!

Curious George said...

"...meanwhile Bernstein has called this a" malignant presidency" with more folks calling into question Trump's abilities to govern."

Gee I hope Trump doesn't slit his fucking wrists.

robother said...

rcocean: "I always love how Trump gets the maximum amount of insults in the fewest words."

NYC guy thing, for sure.

And I agree with various folks here that the "Mika dumb as a rock" meme is gonna leave a mark. Always considered the high point of Morning Joe was around 2009 when Mika was asking a series of unusually probing questions of a Republican guest, and Joe suddenly noticed, and pointed out, that Mika was reading the questions off her blackberry, (from Axelrod in the Obama White House).

Darrell said...

Let's hear what the losers here think.

Nobody gives a fuck what losers think.

Rabel said...

Who represents the cheating wife in the "cuck" formulation? Seems to me that the people who are called "cucks" fill that role better than they do the role of the cheated upon husband.

Gusty Winds said...

If Trump's tweets are bad for him, why does the media want him to stop? The fact is his tweets are effective, and hurting them. They can't ignore it, and when they deal with his tweets they lose their minds and look foolish.

Even Psyho Joe and Low IQ Mika cringed at Donny Douchebag's schoolyard rant last week.

The irony is they'll say "Trump tweets instead of doing X". The fact is he spends two minutes tweeting, and then goes back to work. But he sends the media off on a tirade, and they obsess all day/week. It's awesome.

Enjoy!

eric said...

I picked the same one most everyone picked. That Althouse theory is right.

The one thing I'd say though is Trump is wrong about Joe and Mika. They willingly go along g with the trump hate for the ratings.

Earnest Prole said...

I think you need a new poll with three possibilities:

1. Everything Trump does is terrible. If he somehow managed to walk on water, heal the sick, and bring eternal peace to all mankind, I would still think he’s worse than Hitler and Stalin’s evil love child.

2. Everything Trump does is great. If it turn out his real business is running a worldwide pedophile-bestiality ring, I would be even more likely to vote for him in 2020.

3. I’m somewhere in the middle.

Livermoron said...

daar-Mika(T)


My chance at history! Open license for private or commercial use gratis. Attribution not required, but appreciated.

Mary Beth said...

7/1/17, 12:00 PM

"Cuck" became a meme, primarily on /pol/ at first, then it spread. When it became a meme, it lost the specificity it had in porn and just came to mean someone who sells out their dignity (denies their own beliefs) for the approval of another.

Fen said...

"calling into question Trump's ability to govern"

LOL we know. Now that your Russia Coup failed, you've started a whisper campaign to him up your fake "mentally unstable" narrative. And you found some idiot con law professor to read into the law that POTUS can be removed from office for being a mean poopy head.

We are going to enjoy watching you idiots ride that hamster wheel. Thanks in advance.

traditionalguy said...

UNSEEMLY,I SAY.UNSEEMLY. We want a seemly, mild and meek President who submits to all the women.

That is the Establishment's Meme today. CNN is desperate. You can see fear in their eyes.

David Begley said...

I expect Trump to retweet the results of the Althouse poll.

wwww said...

it is going to stick, and that will likely hang over her for much of her remaining professional life.


I disagree -- She's a cause celeb, ratings for Morning Joe are up, and her salary goes up in future negotiations. He'd already insulted Mika months ago on twitter, and that has done nothing but increase her star power.

It's attention from the president -- not surprising her influence & power goes up in response.

Here's the thing -- ratings have been going up for MSNBC & CNN. What do companies do when ratings go up? They do MORE of it.

How many people are watching Morning Joe because of this silly scene?

Expect more Mika & Mika-like reporting.

Of course, I'm easily proven wrong. Mika could be dismissed from cable TV. She could be shunned as a speaker. Her books could not sell. I doubt this happens as long as Trump is president. He's her job security.

eric said...

By the way, I keep seeing people saying Republicans are going to keep winning elections.

I see a major problem with this.

For 8 years of Obama, we had a rising stock market. It corrected twice during Bush. I don't think that was a coincidence.

My firm belief is that our media still can control the narrative. And if they can convince enough people we have a failing economy, it'll crash the markets. For now, Trump has their attention diverted. Which is brilliant. But eventually someone will remind them, "It's the economy, stupid." And someone will remind them to start reporting good economic news as bad news and bad economic news as worse news.

Unlike under an Obama administration. Where all good news is great news and all bad news comes "unexpectedly!"

Fen said...

And who the fuck is Bernstein? That old hack from Watergate? I thought he died. Because I don't recall him saying a god damn thing about any "malignant presidency" during Obama's 8 years in office.

Did they dig him up? Or am I confusing him with that movie, Weekend At Bernstein's.... hehe

Michael K said...

you've started a whisper campaign to him up your fake "mentally unstable" narrative.

Democrats are going to have a real problem selling this meme after the way they have behaved the past six months.

buwaya said...

The "bosses" remarks are approaching the critical matter of the actual enemies of the administration.
It is most certainly a top-down system, and the faces on TV are just hired mouthpieces, as are their writers, editors and producers.

And it is not about ratings, as such, the soap opera women are an easy, vulnerable audience but it isnt any specific political or ideological line that would especially attract them. Any message will do, its all about the presentation.

So, what interest do the owners of NBC and CNN and the NYT and etc., or more likely the owners of the owners have in bringing down the Trump administration? Qui bono?
That is where to look for the truth.

Skeptical Voter said...

Bob said that Mika was set decoration. Like a potted plant?

Fen said...

Pelosi: This sucks eggs!

McConnell: Can't be helped. They won't hear me.

Schumer: What we need is someone with credibility... someone with the integrious authority to reach the proles...

McCain: Challenge! I don't think 'integrious' is a real word. Yatzee! Advance to Boardwalk!!

Pelosi: But who is left? I can't go out there. My botox is leaking. EPA Hazmat all in my biz.

Schumer: ...I got it! Carl Berstein!

McConnell: Isn't he dead? And why does it smell like stale cat puss in here?

Schumer: He's only mostly dead. Everone grab a shovel! Meet me at Arlington National! We might just be able to pull this off!

(cue MGM Lion)

(cue opening soundtrack)

A Weekend At Bernstein's.
What Is Dead May Never Die

Rene Saunce said...

Fen - rated H for hilarious.

Sydney said...
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Sydney said...

rhhardin's link @11:05 is well worth the listen. A World Without News. Even though the speaker is an obvious leftist, his analysis about what is wrong with the news is exactly correct. We don't want to be told what to think. We want the facts so we can make our own decisions. The news business started its downhill slide when it embraced the idea that opinion is everything. I started noticing that in the 1980's, and it has gotten worse every year

Fen said...

Are we having fun :)

I have had this much fun in politics since Reagan said he was paying for that microphone.

Michael K said...

So, what interest do the owners of NBC and CNN and the NYT and etc., or more likely the owners of the owners have in bringing down the Trump administration? Qui bono?

Why is Soros paying anarchists and BLM ?

Same question.

Paddy O said...

"We don't want to be told what to think. We want the facts so we can make our own decisions."

I'm not sure I entirely agree with this. I think there's a vast number of people who do want to be told want to think. There's too much information out there and people don't have time or interest in navigating it all. So except for local news, they want someone who spends the time, that they trust, who can tell them how to think about something. It's a basis for much religion and most politics.

That's why eroding trust is sometimes a better tactic than addressing facts. Which was the tactic against Fox news and now that is being turned around at CNN, etc.

Of course, as much of the trust isn't being earned, it makes the process easier.

Unknown said...

BREAKING NEWS: "The man Melania Trump is allegedly cheating with has photo shared on social media"

Google it.

Daily Mail says Melania was in New York City mid-week.

Btw, guess where Tiffany's is? Yep, at the bottom of Trump Tower. Not far to go for some quick nooky.

Rumor is the divorce agreement had already been agreed but then Trump won the election and he begged Melania to hang on ie. for more money.

Going to be a blast to see where this is going to go.

Etienne said...

What would Eisenhower do?

rehajm said...

Both NBC and MSNBC have seats in The White House press room. Why is that?

Perhaps that will change.

Etienne said...

This is exactly why draft dodgers should never enter politics.

Unknown said...

Uhmmm. 71 year old with small hands. Oh, that could be source of many problems.

Bob Boyd said...

Skeptical Voter said...
Bob said that Mika was set decoration. Like a potted plant?

Kinda. Her contribution to the show consists largely of pursing her lips and tilting her head or furrowing her brow while turning her head from the camera to Joe and back again. Sometimes she interrupts Joe to tell him she read something.

Paddy O said...

Mark Twain on "Journalism in America." Well, he specified in Tennessee, but I think it's broadly applicable nowadays.

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rehajm said...

At some point, he's gotta start sounding Presidential, right?

Did Washington or Lincoln ever talk like this?

What's the long game here?


Before the election leftie media had a high degree of confidence in their power to defeat any Republican using only words and their ability to be offended or outraged. Trump's found an effective defense. It probably won't stop until he leaves office.

Seeing how lefties are slow to catch on I reckon the long game will indeed be a long one.

Michael K said...

I see that "Unknown" is getting into the mud and slop the left loves so much.

Try not to splash the rest of us.

Darrell said...

I'd say do it for Mika, but everybody's using granite, other natural, or recycled materials for countertops today.

Darrell said...

The YouTube tape as explanation for the Egypt/Benghazi riots made the media and the Democrats think they had absolute control of the narrative without any repercussions.

pacwest said...

"Compare that to the major legislative successes that President Obama had by this point in his presidency."

Good Lord. What in the world fuels the mind that can say this with a straight face. First of all Pelosi-Reed are responsible, not Obama, who was just doing what his handlers told him to do, but let's play anyway.

1. The trillion dollar bailout, which was one of the most corrupt payouts in American history.

2. The disastrous SOFA with Iraq which cascaded into setting an entire region of the globe up for human disaster of enormous scale.

3. Setting in motion a government program so bad it needed to collect taxes for four years before implementation just so it could fail in less than four more.

4. Setting race relations back decades. (He did manage this one on his own, so he was not entirely without personal accomplishment I guess).

5. Starting movement towards a political rift that will possibly never heal.

6. Sold a lot of books!

Fen said...

Unknown: "71 year old with small hands"

Ha. Trump has had more women than your mom has had cocks up her ass. And that's saying a lot.

But keep obsessing over the penises of better men. Sad!

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Achilles said...

On Friday US District court ruled that Illinois has to pay it's bills.

"Friday’s court ruling, which meant that the near-insolvent state must pay an additional $593 million per month, may have been the straw that finally broke the Illinois camel's back.

“Friday’s ruling by the U.S. District Court takes the state’s finances from horrific to catastrophic,” Comptroller Susana Mendoza, a Democrat, said in an emailed statement after the ruling.

As a result of the court decision, “payments to the state’s pension funds; state payroll including legislator pay; General State Aid to schools and payments to local governments -- in some combination -- will likely have to be cut.”"

Democrats have a veto proof majority in the legislature but they wont pass tax hikes without Rauner's signature.

We would be discussing federal bailouts if Obama/Hillary were preezy still. Instead we can break out the popcorn.

Achilles said...

Unknown said...
BREAKING NEWS: "The man Melania Trump is allegedly cheating with has photo shared on social media"

Google it.

Daily Mail says Melania was in New York City mid-week.

Btw, guess where Tiffany's is? Yep, at the bottom of Trump Tower. Not far to go for some quick nooky.

Rumor is the divorce agreement had already been agreed but then Trump won the election and he begged Melania to hang on ie. for more money.

Going to be a blast to see where this is going to go.


Breaking news: Obama can throw a baseball 50 feet!

Breaking News: Obama bowls like a fucking pussy1

Breaking News: Obama acts like a fucking idiot toasting the queen during national anthem.

Breaking News: Obama the fucking idiot thinks inflating your tires will do just as much.

Michael K said...

We would be discussing federal bailouts if Obama/Hillary were preezy still. Instead we can break out the popcorn.

This is going to be something to watch.

I was in Chicago last week and I was told Illinois is still trying to sell lottery tickets even though they can't pay winners !

Not even lottery players are that stupid.

Unknown said...

Sticks and stones Trumpski's.

A well-known guest on Bill Maher this week described Trumpski's as "the knuckle draggers in flyover country".

Livermoron said...

Man unknown, you sure have a high standard of evidence. I think that this is Inga sock-puppetry again.

Darrell said...

Oh do bugger off you tedious spod, Unknown X.

Drago said...

A well-known guest on Bill Maher this week described Trumpski's as "the knuckle draggers in flyover country".

Oh my.

A well known person!

As "well known" as random person on Twitter Tim Van Horn? As "well known" as Charlie Sykes?!

We are doomed, doomed I tell ya!

I expect Scott Adams will be compelled to offer additional commentary given the level of "well known-ness" of this unnamed "well known" person offered up by "Unknown".

I wonder if we can round up a dozen or so unnamed sources to back that up?

Ralph L said...

I'd say do it for Mika, but everybody's using granite, other natural, or recycled materials for countertops today.
We can put her in the windows like the Romans did.

Khesanh 0802 said...

Test

Quaestor said...

A well-known guest on Bill Maher this week described Trumpski's as "the knuckle draggers in flyover country".

This surprises me not at all. Such mindlessness on the part of Bill Maher's demo is why we have President Trump and Soon-To-Be-Indicted Hillary.

rcocean said...

"Friday’s court ruling, which meant that the near-insolvent state must pay an additional $593 million per month, may have been the straw that finally broke the Illinois camel's back"

Couldn't happen to a nicer state. Yeah, they're yoked to Chicago & the Democrats in "crook county" but there are plenty of dead-brained Democrats downstate. The dumbshit Democrat who tried to kill Republicans was from "Downstate".

The whole state is what New York or California would look like if they didn't have Silicon Valley or the financial/entertainment centers in NYC and LA.

rcocean said...

Charlie Sykes is an interesting fellow. He's the son of liberal Democrat politician and was a liberal democrat himself, until he discovered he was a "Conservative" in the early 90s and got a nice gig as a Talk show host.

Now, like Bill Kristol or George Will he's discovered that anyone who doesn't support open borders or free trade is Nazi.

Michael K said...

The economy after the financial crisis.

What a dingbat just like all Trumpski's with selected memories.


I was waiting to see if anyone else knocked over this fat tenpin sitting there.

I would strongly encourage you to read this explanation, but I know you won't.

Leftists only rad Maya Angelou poetry.

a few highlights.

For most of his career, Barney Frank was the principal advocate in Congress for using the government’s authority to force lower underwriting standards in the business of housing finance. Although he claims to have tried to reverse course as early as 2003, that was the year he made the oft-quoted remark, “I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation toward subsidized housing.” Rather than reversing course, he was pressing on when others were beginning to have doubts.

His most successful effort was to impose what were called “affordable housing” requirements on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 1992.


The rest is interesting but you won;t read it.

When the Democrats took Congress in 2006, they put the pedal to the metal in liar loans.

when half or more of the mortgages the GSEs bought had to be made to people below that income level, it was inevitable that underwriting standards had to decline. And they did. By 2000, Fannie was offering no-downpayment loans. By 2002, Fannie and Freddie had bought well over $1 trillion of subprime and other low quality loans. Fannie and Freddie were by far the largest part of this effort, but the FHA, Federal Home Loan Banks, Veterans Administration and other agencies–all under congressional and HUD pressure–followed suit. This continued through the 1990s and 2000s until the housing bubble–created by all this government-backed spending–collapsed in 2007. As a result, in 2008, before the mortgage meltdown that triggered the crisis, there were 27 million subprime and other low quality mortgages in the US financial system. That was half of all mortgages. Of these, over 70% (19.2 million) were on the books of government agencies like Fannie and Freddie, so there is no doubt that the government created the demand for these weak loans;

Democrats created it and spent the last two years of Bush's term doubling down.

You are a liar.,

Achilles said...

"I was waiting to see if anyone else knocked over this fat tenpin sitting there"

Anyone blaming the 2008 collapse on Bush is pretty much just written off as a stupid shithead arguing in bad faith. Dealing with people that stupid is boring.