July 20, 2017

"It is difficult to conceive of a deceit so degrading or a deceit so damaging to the victim on its discovery."

Said the judge (in the UK) as he sentenced Gayle Newland, 27, to 6 1/2 years in prison for "pretending to be a man [by] using a fake penis."
The complainant said she was persuaded by the defendant to wear a blindfold at all times when they met and only found out she was having sex with Newland when she finally took off her mask.

Newland claimed her accuser always knew she was pretending to be Kye Fortune - a Facebook profile she created at the age of 15 using an American man's photographs and videos - as they engaged in role play while struggling with their sexuality.

She said no blindfold was used as they had sex on about 10 occasions at the complainant's flat in Chester in 2013.... The defendant spent "hundreds" of hours talking on the telephone to her friend as Kye and more than 100 hours in each other's company.

29 comments:

Fernandinande said...

It sure sounds like "the complainant" got dumped.

struggling with their sexuality

Who won?

EDH said...

So, the sexual penetration itself was consensual, it's just the fact that she was a woman and using a prosthetic penis that constituted fraud, vitiating consent and resulting in rape?

Decision seem to cut against the PC grain with gender self-identity, and opens the door to the defense of provocation or self defense in those cases where a man kills a transgender man who tricked him into believing he was a woman.

Ann Althouse said...

Love relationships are full of lying and tricking. I don't think the government should take sides. The sex was consensual, but there were secrets. The other woman agreed to wear a blindfold. There's a such thing in law as "willful blindness." Surely the actual wearing of a blindfold is willful blindness.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

What would she have gotten for a real rape?

In England if she were a Muslim man?

Government help in procuring the victims and covering up the crime.

SGT Ted said...

We have people with penises pretending to be women, so I'm not sure what the problem is.

David Smith said...

It's the "we really haven’t discussed this as a society" part that amuses me.

How many "progressive" changes have been imposed "from above" sans any serious debate let alone consensus? Legalizing abortion? Normalizing divorce? Normalizing homosexual intercourse? Creating "same-sex marriage"? Creating and then normalizing "gender dysphoria"?

A case of "It's all fun-and-games until it bites you on the ass"?

Gahrie said...

Love relationships are full of lying and tricking.

Surely this goes farther lying and tricking and into outright fraud?

Gahrie said...

Love relationships are full of lying and tricking.

So you splooge stooges need to watch out!

William said...

Is this so much different than a woman who discovers that the man she's dating is married? If the woman doesn't pick up on this fact after two or three dates it's because she doesn't want to pick up on that fact.

Fritz said...

Transgender rights!

holdfast said...

Let's be honest. We're all just here to see what Laslo does with this one.

n.n said...

Female-Female relationships. Is it still transgender if one party has a misconception about the other? The other two? The other three?

She must have known something was wrong when she failed to conceive. I wonder how a paternity test for two mommies would be processed.

Mike makes right said...

"It's difficult to conceive......" That's golden.

David said...

Everything is permitted between two consenting adults until one of the adults decides that the consent was a mistake and withdraws it retroactively.

traditionalguy said...

Are they resurrecting sexual mores again? The story for the past 30 years was that all is permissable unless one is under 18 age of consent.

I predict this will not apply to the victims of politically connected People. They need their slaves and can afford them.

cubanbob said...

I didn't know there are artificial dicks so life like a woman couldn't feel the difference in her. Maybe the fake man should get a fake woman robot to use her fake dick with.

Yancey Ward said...

Next, will the British be putting men in prison for promising 8 inches with girth, while doing their blindfolded girlfriends with 5, or a dildo?

Yancey Ward said...

This is a tort, at best. A prison sentence is a grave injustice here and can't possibly meet the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt on any level. It is simply unbelievable that the "victim" didn't know what was what here. The judge is a moron.

'TreHammer said...

...wait, what?...how is that even possible?...

Laslo Spatula said...

First, are you our sort of a person?

Do you wear

A glass eye, false teeth or a crutch,

A brace or a hook,

Rubber breasts or a rubber crotch,

Stitches to show something’s missing? No, no? Then

How can we give you a thing?

Stop crying.

Open your hand.

Empty? Empty. Here is a hand

To fill it and willing

To bring teacups and roll away headaches

And do whatever you tell it.

Will you marry it?

It is guaranteed

To thumb shut your eyes at the end

And dissolve of sorrow.

We make new stock from the salt.

I notice you are stark naked.

How about this suit—-

Black and stiff, but not a bad fit.

Will you marry it?

It is waterproof, shatterproof, proof

Against fire and bombs through the roof.

Believe me, they’ll bury you in it.

Now your head, excuse me, is empty.

I have the ticket for that.

Come here, sweetie, out of the closet.

Well, what do you think of that ?

Naked as paper to start

But in twenty-five years she’ll be silver,

In fifty, gold.

A living doll, everywhere you look.

It can sew, it can cook,

It can talk, talk , talk.

It works, there is nothing wrong with it.

You have a hole, it’s a poultice.

You have an eye, it’s an image.

My boy, it’s your last resort.

Will you marry it, marry it, marry it.

That was Plath.

I am Laslo.

JaimeRoberto said...

Ugh, that judge is so unwoke. That's not ok.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Yancey, Tre, please google "Teena Brandon"

Steven said...

I can't imagine not having reasonable doubt about whether the "tricked" party was actually tricked. Unless her vastly sub-normal IQ was entered into evidence?

Kirk Parker said...

"The complainant said she was persuaded by the defendant to wear a blindfold at all times when they met..."

Don't Hook Up With Crazy.

PatHMV said...

Not the first time something like this has happened:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Pei_Pu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Tipton

walter said...

Always interesting to see what triggers widespread deletions. Civility bullshit is unpredictable.

walter said...

Even the assertion that bots might help marriages with uneven libidos or be a better outlets for sex offenders..I know.. To the fainting couch..

HoodlumDoodlum said...

How much lying is legal?
I told you, baby, my Porsche is in the shop this week.
Of course these are real...let's just turn the lights off before I take off my bra.
My family? Oh, they're all perfectly normal, of course.

Anyone else smell patriarchal sexism on in his one? Like the real offense was to the lady's honor? Like the injury was to the asset of her sexuality...as when a woman's virginity was the property of her father/family and depriving them of compensation for same was criminal? Probably just my imagination.

tcrosse said...

Never make love with a woman whose troubles are worse than yours.