Althouse: After the London Bridge terrorist attack, Theresa May calls for embarrassing conversations.

June 4, 2017

After the London Bridge terrorist attack, Theresa May calls for embarrassing conversations.

"So we need to become far more robust in identifying [terrorism] and stamping it out across the public sector and across society. That will require some difficult, and often embarrassing, conversations."

What's hiding behind that weasely "embarrassing"? She didn't deign to say anything that embarrassed her. It was all "society should continue to function in accordance with our values" and "the whole of our country needs to come together." And "conversation." Bromides. Oh, well, maybe that is embarrassing, but I don't think that's what she meant.

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FullMoon said...: The Toothless Revolutionary said...

What kind of a break? One that magically transports you to live in a world where you:

1. Don't resent people more popular, successful and beloved than you?
2. Pretend that factory food manufacturers don't collude with Republican cowards to inundate the poorest neighborhoods with the worst foodstuffs?
3. Pretend that drug epidemics aren't an even much bigger problem in red states and the other socially/culturally impoverished areas that make up proud, politically conservative America?
4. Pretend that natural environments are immune to human impact?

That would be quite a break, indeed!
6/4/17, 3:15 PM

Better have a Snickers Bar, little diva.; 6/4/17, 3:27 PM
Hyphenated American said...: Does anybody here have remembers that Obama's Secretary of State, john Kerry, recently announced that air conditioners are as dangerous as ISIS? True story.; 6/4/17, 3:28 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Better have a Snickers Bar, little diva.

That's interesting. Never have I seen or heard the word "diva" more than when chocolate ice cream bar manufacturers are trying to sell the idea of luxurious excess to overweight, middle-aged females about to throw themselves a lonely, calorie-laden pity party.

The things you don't know about advertising could fill a sizable chunk of the ethernet. I guess once you're finally done with your Johnny-Come-Lately war on the news media, you can finally get on with a war against all the lies told by the advertising industry.; 6/4/17, 3:31 PM
John said...: Angel-Dyne said...

Not sure what this is a response to. I didn't say anything about what their country of origin wanted or didn't want.

My bad. I thought your second comment suggested it mattered whether the country of origin wanted the migrants to leave.; 6/4/17, 3:32 PM
Anonymous said...: Speaking of embarrassing, then our ambassador to London had to smooth things over.

"Other parts of the United States government sought to smooth over the dispute. “I commend the strong leadership of the @MayorofLondon as he leads the city forward after this heinous attack,” Lew Lukens, a career diplomat serving as acting American ambassador to London, wrote on Twitter hours later."; 6/4/17, 3:36 PM
John said...: The Toothless Revolutionary said...
The massive amounts of Antarctica and the North that are breaking off into the ocean really must be part of that awesome stability.

Updated data from NASA satellite instruments reveal the Earth’s polar ice caps have not receded at all since the satellite instruments began measuring the ice caps in 1979. Since the end of 2012, moreover, total polar ice extent has largely remained above the post-1979 average. The updated data contradict one of the most frequently asserted global warming claims – that global warming is causing the polar ice caps to recede.; 6/4/17, 3:42 PM
John said...: The Toothless Revolutionary said...
In the meantime our idiot President keeps tweeting.

He barrages the nation with the best mechanism he knows of for keeping himself distracted.

VIA his commrade Inga

Just one of those uncomfortable, "embarrassing" conversations we must have. The fact that you two feel safe in your little worlds isn't good enough.; 6/4/17, 3:49 PM
FullMoon said...: Stupid says

,” Mr. Khan told Londoners not “to be alarmed” by seeing more police officers on the streets. Mr. Trump presented it as if Mr. Khan had meant they should not be alarmed by terrorism. The mayor’s office fired back, calling Mr. Trump “ill informed.”

Right, When I am downtown and see cops and military with rifles on every corner, I might be alarmed. Nothing to be alarmed about, why are cops on every corner?; 6/4/17, 3:50 PM
Achilles said...: TTR said...

"Americans eat horribly and have outrageously high obesity and obesity-complication rates. Nowhere else in the world do they have half ton lardasses that require cranes to be moved out of their houses. Only America. "

My wife visits these people in their houses. A lot of them. They are all dependent on government welfare programs and they all vote democrat. They hate trump almost as much as being hungry.; 6/4/17, 3:54 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Nice fake news report from Forbes, John.

Here's what their source, NASA, has to say about it, in a publication dated two years after the Forbes hit-job.

Once at the site, you'll find links to the following recent articles:

NASA Discovers a New Mode of Ice Loss in Greenland

Alaska Tundra Source of Early-Winter Carbon Emissions

Must be why Trump is trimming the budget of the basic science necessary to find this stuff out. Either way, they know that what they're up to is a propaganda war. They can no longer control the stories that are being uncovered by the science reporting, so they will therefore end the science research.

For how long will you believe liars who are just out to make money off of you?; 6/4/17, 3:55 PM
Fritz said...: Drago said...
Alex: "Mexico and Samoa have higher obesity rates. Saudi Arabia is right up there as well"

Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea have already solved the obesity "crisis".
To be fair, young Kim is a tad pudgy.; 6/4/17, 3:55 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: My wife visits these people in their houses. A lot of them. They are all dependent on government welfare programs and they all vote democrat. They hate trump almost as much as being hungry.

Well it's not like you find them - unlike mock turtle the conservative - fighting for their "constitutional right" to be fat.; 6/4/17, 3:56 PM
John said...: The Toothless Revolutionary said...
Nice fake news report from Forbes, John.

For how long will you believe liars who are just out to make money off of you?

This is a topic for another thread, but you deflected here.

Pot calling kettle black. I'm sure Elon Musk, Al Gore and the Green Energy Consortium have no monetary desires and aren't "just out to make money off of you"?

Having worked in the energy efficiency industry, I fully understand the motive is exactly the same as the fossil fuels industry - sell stuff and make money.; 6/4/17, 4:10 PM
Achilles said...: "That's interesting. Never have I seen or heard the word "diva" more than when chocolate ice cream bar manufacturers are trying to sell the idea of luxurious excess to overweight, middle-aged females about to throw themselves a lonely, calorie-laden pity party. "

AND THEY ARE ALL REPUBLICANS! Republicans make fat people fat. Republicans cause terrorism. And racism. And everything that is bad. In fact Bad has republican right after it. Democrats are good. Everything good comes from democrats. And government. Except when it is republicans. And this is the dumbest political paradigm ever.; 6/4/17, 4:17 PM
grackle said...: What you idiot Althouse Hillbillies don't get is that we shouldn't try to fight terrorists by taking on their values but instead have confidence in our liberal values.

To defeat a ruthless enemy requires equally ruthless methods.

Question: What’s the difference between a totalitarian society and an Islamic society?

A certain percentage of Muslims finding themselves in the West will “get religion,” meaning that they will go from trying to awkwardly and unsuccessfully fit an Islamic worldview into a free democratic society - to becoming even MORE religious. They may be new arrivals, second generation, third generation, “homegrown,” etc., but gradually or through a sudden epiphany some will “get religion,” sort of like some of our Christian “born again” folks have their “come to Jesus” moments.

The problem is that when Muslims have religious epiphanies it seems a goodly portion of them believe that they must also murder a few little girls to sort of top off the experience.

What we are witnessing is the Muslim Reformation. Just as the Christian Reformation was a return to root values, so is the Muslim Reformation. The core values to which the jihadists are reverting is to conquer and/or kill all who oppose Islam, impose sharia and extend the Caliphate. This reformation will be as bloody or bloodier than its Christian counterpart. Thus it was in the beginning, thus it is today, thus it will be in the future.

For justification for their jihad/reformation they need look no further than the Quran.; 6/4/17, 4:20 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Having worked in the energy efficiency industry, I fully understand the motive is exactly the same as the fossil fuels industry - sell stuff and make money.

Yes! Lies told in the service of selling stuff are so much superior to just, you know, selling stuff.; 6/4/17, 4:24 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: AND THEY ARE ALL REPUBLICANS! Republicans make fat people fat. Republicans cause terrorism. And racism. And everything that is bad. In fact Bad has republican right after it. Democrats are good. Everything good comes from democrats. And government. Except when it is republicans. And this is the dumbest political paradigm ever.

Can you name something that Republicans have ever taken responsibility for?

Exactly why did Republicans trash Michelle Obama for growing a garden on the White House lawn and sponsoring healthy food initiatives? Did they trash Laura Bush for sponsoring reading initiatives?

Do you think the government should be making it easier or harder to sell unhealthy factory food in public schools? Oh, that's right! You think public schools shouldn't exist. Nice way to evade the issue, I suppose. Charter schools should sell all the cotton candy and popcorn and corndogs they want and the government should agree with them to reclassify pizza as a vegetable because of the tomato sauce. Which, technically, comes from a fruit anyway.; 6/4/17, 4:27 PM
John said...: Can you name something that Republicans have ever taken responsibility for?

Ronald Reagan
The fall of the Soviet Union
Abraham Lincoln
The end of slavery in the USA
...; 6/4/17, 4:35 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Ronald Reagan -

I got it. You think they're infallible. Nothing new to see here.; 6/4/17, 4:36 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: I don't care who dropped the two bombs I give the GOP credit for killing all those civilians so quickly.

We GOP do that all the time, like slavin' folks too.

Best not to make us angry, or frightened. Best to probably offer up oral services for our pleasure, when you get right down to it. We are some bad motherfuckers.

The smarter you are, the less we understand, we are so stupid and evil and turd-like.; 6/4/17, 4:39 PM
John said...: The Toothless Revolutionary said...
Ronald Reagan -

I got it. You think they're infallible. Nothing new to see here.

Hah. Pick the one that you have any support even marginally questioning. Nothing new to see here.; 6/4/17, 4:42 PM
Achilles said...: Blogger The Toothless Revolutionary said....

"For how long will you believe liars who are just out to make money off of you?"

HAHAHAHAHA.

But don't cut those government research grants!

Al Gore is a billionaire. Doing what exactly?

You are a rube.; 6/4/17, 4:42 PM
FullMoon said...: The Toothless Revolutionary cried... ]

The things you don't know about advertising could fill a sizable chunk of the ethernet.

Right. You watch Madmen reruns and are now an expert.; 6/4/17, 4:42 PM
Achilles said...: "Can you name something that Republicans have ever taken responsibility for?"

Freeing the slaves from the democrats.

Now your turn. Can you name something that democrats have ever taken responsibility for?; 6/4/17, 4:44 PM
Achilles said...: TTR said...

You think public schools shouldn't exist. Nice way to evade the issue, I suppose.

Zero students at 6 Baltimore schools proficient in English and math.

Looks like it is time for Republicans to free Black people from democrats again.; 6/4/17, 4:56 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: You are a rube.

Gee, I wish I had a wife who was better educated than me and could spoon-feed my opinions to me.

So you too think Republicans are infallible, like I said. Not worth having a discussion with. Send on your wife to the thread instead, then. Seeing as how she does your thinking for you.; 6/4/17, 4:57 PM
Achilles said...: "So you too think Republicans are infallible, like I said. Not worth having a discussion with. Send on your wife to the thread instead, then. Seeing as how she does your thinking for you."

You know I hate th GOPe more than I hate the democrats.

Rube.; 6/4/17, 4:58 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Looks like it is time for Republicans to free Black people from democrats again.

And their plan for that is incredible. Keep them from voting! Restrict their voting efforts! The whites unaffected by Republican voter suppression efforts will vote in the people who condescend to them instead!

You are one constipated asshole - completely full of shit. Even the token Republican black of any repute, Colin Powell, says you fuckfaces need to stop the voter suppression efforts.

I guess he won't be your house negro, either.; 6/4/17, 4:59 PM
Achilles said...: Blogger The Toothless Revolutionary said...

"Gee, I wish I had a wife who was better educated than me and could spoon-feed my opinions to me. "

Err btw, wtf?; 6/4/17, 5:00 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: You know I hate th GOPe more than I hate the democrats.

Rube.

Then why were you offended at the simple question of which of their many wrongs they've taken responsibility for?

You like this "rube" epithet. Try proving your intelligence by picking up on what the conversation's actually about, then.; 6/4/17, 5:00 PM
Achilles said...: TTR said...

"And their plan for that is incredible. Keep them from voting! Restrict their voting efforts! "

Exactly how? Requiring photo ID to vote? That argument is bad faith. And stupid.; 6/4/17, 5:03 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: It's not an argument. It's a well-evidenced fact. Mike Turzai admitted it. Their efforts to suppress the vote. This is no secret. The Republicans have trying to choose the voters, rather than letting the voters choose the politicians. It's how desperate the Republicans are. What's stupid is believing that voter fraud has ever been a significant problem, let alone one that changed an election, let alone one where Tinyhands Trump's belief of 3 million miscast votes ever took place - despite his win. Talk about desperate. Is he a sore enough winner? Is any Republican? Meanwhile, what's Trump doing about Bannon's and his family's dual-state registrations? Nothing. What a moron. Just believe anything he tweets.; 6/4/17, 5:07 PM
n.n said...: John:

1- not sure what 'elective wars and regime changes' have to do with immigration. Perhaps refugees - but that's an entirely different topic.

No, they are related. For example: immigration reform to compensate for abortion rites and other dysfunctional behaviors, and immigration reform to avoid responsibility for collateral damage caused by elective wars. Also, high density population centers to benefit business and welfare; and gerrymandered districts.

2- doesn't 'climate change' impact the the globe? Can you really emigrate away from climate change?

Climate as in environment, including: social, political, security, etc.; 6/4/17, 5:19 PM
n.n said...: John:

Actually, climate change is a local and regional Earth system effect, which is primarily and globally driven by the sun. Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change is purported to be a global human-caused effect.; 6/4/17, 5:22 PM
Seeing Red said...: Making sure citizens only vote and vote 1 time is not voter suppression.

Geez, even the UN can't believe how loose our laws are.; 6/4/17, 5:23 PM
Seeing Red said...: Vote 1time per election and I can't believe I have to clarify that.; 6/4/17, 5:23 PM
Seeing Red said...: Passing civil rights law.; 6/4/17, 5:26 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: 30 cases of miscast ballots found in order to wipe out millions from the polls. And a number of these were Trump voters just trying to see if they could get away with it just to "prove a point."

Keep shortening poll times, also. Especially to times of the day when most people are working.

Yep. We can see what's going on.; 6/4/17, 5:26 PM
Seeing Red said...: Now it's a heinous attack?

I thought it was just a price to pay tp for the privilege of living in a big city.; 6/4/17, 5:27 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Passing civil rights law.

LBJ did that. And Nixon's aide Pat Buchanan said that it was no longer their fight. That's when they took in the old Southern Democrats who voted against it. And then Reagan called teh blacks "Welfare Queens" to cement his condescension of blacks creds.

Interesting that you keep denying what Ken Mehlman and Michael Steele have already long ago apologized for. What do you know that they don't? I mean, other than nothing.; 6/4/17, 5:28 PM
Seeing Red said...: Bwaaa NASA discovers new mode of ice loss in Greenland?

How did Greenland get its name?

And when?

And why?

Either it's supposed to be green or it's not.; 6/4/17, 5:29 PM
Seeing Red said...: How exactly does a president pass a law since the executive branch cannot do that.; 6/4/17, 5:32 PM
Seeing Red said...: You're talking party in voting.

Seriously, you want to argue about what goes on in Philly? Precincts voting 100% plus?

With a Chicagoan? Bwaaaaaaaaa; 6/4/17, 5:34 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/4/17, 5:36 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: What is "Bwaaaaaaaaa?" A cross between a cow mooing and a sheep bleating?; 6/4/17, 5:37 PM
John said...: The Toothless Revolutionary said...
Looks like it is time for Republicans to free Black people from democrats again.

And their plan for that is incredible. Keep them from voting! Restrict their voting efforts!

Uhuh. You read your "news" from your "sources" and I'll read and witness mine.

The only "suppression" conservatives want is to restrict votes by non-citizens - undocumented aliens if you prefer.; 6/4/17, 5:44 PM
John said...: n.n has left a new comment on the post "After the London Bridge terrorist attack, Theresa ...":

John:

1- not sure what 'elective wars and regime changes' have to do with immigration. Perhaps refugees - but that's an entirely different topic.

No, they are related. For example: immigration reform to compensate for abortion rites and other dysfunctional behaviors, and immigration reform to avoid responsibility for collateral damage caused by elective wars. Also, high density population centers to benefit business and welfare; and gerrymandered districts.

2- doesn't 'climate change' impact the the globe? Can you really emigrate away from climate change?

Climate as in environment, including: social, political, security, etc.

Wow. Just wow. I guess when you expand definitions and scope of immigration to include abortion and climate includes effectively everything its hard to argue.

You win? I guess.; 6/4/17, 5:50 PM
Seeing Red said...: Why do we have to shorten poll times since there are mail in ballots now?

Voting from the comfort of one's abode. A month early in some cases.; 6/4/17, 6:02 PM
Seeing Red said...: And that's why you're toothless!lololol; 6/4/17, 6:18 PM
Fen said...: "Terrorists want the Trumps to win"

See also: if we destroy ISIS we are just giving the terrorists what they want.

No shit, a Lefty actually posted that on FB.; 6/4/17, 6:34 PM
Fen said...: Ah yes, another terrorist attack and Ritmo again wants to talk about how the Crusades were just as bad.

Meade, clean up on aisle 3; 6/4/17, 6:39 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Never once did I say anything about the crusades but watch out, world! Feninine Fen's hallucinations are on their way!

Like all good warriors, he's a tattletale, too, apparently. What strength and bravery. Impressive. Admirable. Honorable.; 6/4/17, 6:43 PM
Fen said...: The reason Ritmo is reflexively bashing the Right is because the neutering of the British people has made it glaringly obvious that, in order to effectively address the problem of radical muslims in America, we must first do something about the Marxist Left.

Ritmo sees the writing on the wall, hence his panic attack.; 6/4/17, 7:00 PM
Fen said...: Onesie's Boss: We need to talk about your TPS report.
Onesi: The Reublicans are supressing the black vote!

Onesi's Wife: Why are there condoms in your gym bag?
Onesi: The Republicans hate tbe poor!

Police officer: Sir, do you know why I pulled you over?
Onesi: But the Republicans!; 6/4/17, 7:10 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Feninine Fen apparently suffered some stray or intentional gunshot to the part of his brain that would in ordinary people allow them to read these things I never wrote about muslims, Britain, or whatever else he distracts himself with in order to pretend that Trump or his team of lackeys is competent.

But I'm sure he identifies with that "leadership style." All backbiting, competitive leaks by the warring factions in the west wing to undercut the other, and each one upping the ante on the other by seeing who can put a news clipping in front of Der Donald's ADHD face quickly enough to get him to believe the news that that faction wants him to prioritize.

Feninine Fen likes that sort of disunity of purpose and sloppy, disorganized, chaotic dysfunction. It's the typical Republican circular firing squad.; 6/4/17, 7:11 PM
William said...: I'm more sympathetic to Ariana Grande than many people here. Still, I didn't see the concert. There are limits. Did anyone see it? Did it go off ok. I hope Ariana doesn't fall under the influence of Miley Cyrus. I just know that girl would be a bad influence on her......You know what would be cool and edgy. If all of them--Katy, Justin, Miley, and Ariana--got Je Suis Charley tattoos of Mohammed. That would really show the terrorists that they're not afraid.; 6/4/17, 7:19 PM
FullMoon said...: Blogger The Toothless Revolutionary said...

......

Gee, I wish I had a wife .....

Good Luck !; 6/4/17, 7:31 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Gee, I wish I had a wife .....

Good Luck !

I didn't know you were that hard to get.; 6/4/17, 7:37 PM
Birkel said...: Why do the lot of you bother with TTR?
His reason for commenting is to derail every thread on which he participates.

Please only engage TTR after comment 200.

Never. Before.; 6/4/17, 7:39 PM
FullMoon said...: Blogger The Toothless Revolutionary said...

......

Gee, I wish I had a wife .....

Cruisin' University av not gonna help ya find one; 6/4/17, 7:44 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: His reason for commenting is -

- to not go along with groupthink. To challenge conformity.

I realize that this bothers you.; 6/4/17, 7:45 PM
mockturtle said...: Ritmo, just step quietly back into your cage and no one will get hurt.; 6/4/17, 7:50 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Oh I'm so scared turtle. More used to dealing with lab rats than with free people, are you?; 6/4/17, 7:53 PM
Anonymous said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/4/17, 7:56 PM
Anonymous said...: Mocky had said she would've crawled on her hands and knees to vote for Trump.; 6/4/17, 8:00 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: She's self-hating.; 6/4/17, 8:01 PM
Anonymous said...: Mockturtle wants to take the vote away from her own sex. She's very enlightened.; 6/4/17, 8:02 PM
FullMoon said...: Awww, Toofless and Ingy building an internet romance. Kinda cute !; 6/4/17, 8:06 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: The Syrian-Nicaraguan-Trump-clone Axis of Country over Planet Speaks!; 6/4/17, 8:11 PM
JAORE said...: "Do you think the government should be making it easier or harder to sell unhealthy factory food in public schools?"

Healthy food? All for it. That's why they always name the program something like the Fluffy Puppy Benevolence Act.

Actual question for you, Toothless, have you ever talked to a school cafeteria manager about the program? I have. She HATED it. Same portions, same mix for all kids. One size fits all from the 47 pound girl to the 178 pound boy in the same 5th grade class. The girl throws away much of her food, the boy begs for more. She gave it to him but risked her job doing so. It wasn't the only flaw she found in the "I know what's best for the kids in your school act". Not by a long shot.

But it sure gives those with limited knowledge a chance to rant about the heartless opposition.; 6/4/17, 8:23 PM
FullMoon said...: Toofless typically tedious insults someone
Friendless Inga climbs on board with reliably repetitious
mockery. A common interest.

Romance in the air tonight.; 6/4/17, 8:24 PM
Anonymous said...: Full moony loony, slightly amusing. But only slightly.; 6/4/17, 8:31 PM
FullMoon said...: Toofless and Inga, laughing at each others "jokes", stars in their eyes.
You guys flirting via text messages, no doubt.

Seriously, good luck. Love affair might mellow you guys for awhile.; 6/4/17, 8:39 PM
n.n said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/4/17, 10:14 PM
n.n said...: John:

It's a comprehensive issue that depends on identifying conflicts of interest. Do you disagree?

Why focus on just one aspect?

It goes to motive. It matters for the native people left behind, the native people disenfranchised through insourcing and gerrymandered districts, welfare profits, and, yes, the effort to sustain the privacy veil that obscures the consequences of resuming abortion rites and clinical cannibalism.; 6/4/17, 10:25 PM
Kirk Parker said...: "I'm really, really ready for a new It poem."

I've got a great suggestion. It begins:

"There's a widow in sleepy Chester..."; 6/5/17, 9:32 PM