January 9, 2017

"The Women’s March on Washington is the first national demonstration in response to the election of Donald J. Trump."

"But already it has been criticized as a feel-good initiative, lacking focus and inclusiveness. Is this march truly a useful endeavor? Is there a better way for women to raise their concerns about a Trump administration?"

This is one of those forums at The New York Times. They got 8 "debaters" to write little essays answering the questions. I guess it's supposed to be a diverse group. But they're all women!



I doubt if many readers will click through to all of those. Don't you think most people — if they click at all — will choose the statement they most agree with? In that light, I'll let you know that I clicked on only one and it was "The March Will Only Reinforce the Divide in America." Excerpt:
I’m not a Trump supporter...
You've got to stake out your credibility.
... but having talked to and read interviews with some of the 56 percent of white women and 43 percent of women overall who are, I think it’s safe to say this kind of talk ["We march to ensure that no woman is forgotten"] will fool nobody.

Those women will – correctly – view the rally as organized by and for the women on the other side of the [vast geographic, education, class, racial and cultural chasm]....

[They] will... know that the marchers look down on them them as at best benighted fools and at worst racist haters. On her first show after the election Samantha Bee, one of the spokeswomen for the march, blasted “Caucasian Nation“ women for betraying their sex. Chelsea Handler, who is leading a satellite march in Hollywood-studded Sundance, described them as “self-mutilating.”...

The election was “a warning that feminism, as it has been defined, did not inspire enough people in enough places around the country,” Susan Chira wrote in The Times recently. Marchers should take heed.

109 comments:

Michael K said...

It might be useful to make a list of attendees to record the leftist activists.

Hagar said...

I wish these people would stop bandying numbers about - especially % this and % that.

mockturtle said...

Don't you think most people — if they click at all — will choose the statement they most agree with?

Not me. The only one I clicked on was There's a Way to Unite all Women in this March". Unite all women? WTF? Are we some monolithic mass influenced by feminist agendas? What a twit!

tcrosse said...

They will be demonstrating against the Trump who lives in their imaginations, and all the awful stuff the HRC campaign said he would do.

traditionalguy said...

There's no business like The Identity Politics business. When it doesn't work any more, just double down. There is always hope they will protest by marching topless to get media coverage. That makes rating their minds much easier... it's like Phrenology.

eric said...

They aren't satisfied with Republicans ruling most of the nation. They want Republicans to rule it all.

If I were a Democrat I'd suspect most of these fools are Moby's working for the Republican party.

sunsong said...

Trump is the divisive figure of import here. What a way to miss the point, imo.

AReasonableMan said...

It is entirely reasonable for women to protest Trump's stated attitudes towards women. These attitudes do no reflect well on Trump, whatever you may think of some of his other policies.

Captain Drano said...

All you have to do is look at the "partners" financing it (and more importantly, know who finances the partners, but that's another story) here is the current list:

PARTNERS
#VoteProChoice
1199 SEIU
Alive Inside Foundation
Alliance for Quality Education
The American Association of University Professors (AAUP)
American Association of University Women (AAUW)
American Humanist Association
American Indian Movement
Amnesty International
The Amplifier Foundation
Arab American Association of New York
ART NOT WAR / Humanity for Progress
Baltimore County Green Party
Be Kind for Lyme
Bend the Arc Jewish Action
Black Girls Rock
Black Ladies International Incorporated
Black Lives of Unitarian Universalism
Black Women's Roundtable
Bold and Boundless
Brown Boi Project
Bus for Progress
BUST
Center for Emergent Diplomacy
Center for Popular Democracy
Center for Health and Gender Equity (CHANGE)
The Center For Reproductive Rights
CHIRLA
Cleveland Action Democrats
Coalition for Post Tubal Women (CPTwomen)
CODEPINK
theCollectiveShift
Communications Workers of America
Council of American Islamic Relations - Connecticut (CAIR-CT)
Cultures of Dignity
Dayton Women's Rights Alliance
Define American
Equal Rights Advocates
Equality Now
ERA Coalition
ERA Minnesota
Everything Girls Love
ExpertClick's NewsReleaseWire
Federation of Protestant Welfare Agencies
FEM Inc.
Feminist Majority Foundation
FemInUs
FREE THE NIPPLE
Gathering For Justice
Gender Action
Girls Republic
Girls Who Code
GOOD
Hip Hop Caucus
Human Rights Campaign
Human Rights Watch
Indian American Democratic Club
Jews for Racial & Economic Justice (JFREJ)
Katrina's Dream
Korean American Resource and Cultural Center
Korean Resource Center
Lady Parts Justice
Lawyers for Good Government
Lower Eastside Girls Club
Life Camp Inc.
MADFree
MINKA Brooklyn
Model Alliance
Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense
MomsRising
MoveOn.org
MPower Change
Muslim Women's Alliance
NAACP
NAACP Youth & College Division
NARAL Pro-Choice America
National Center for Lesbian Rights
National Coalition of Black Civic Participation
National Council for Incarcerated and Formerly Incarcerated Women and Girls
National Council of Jewish Women
National Domestic Workers Alliance
National Korean American Service and Education Consortium (NAKASEC)
National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health
National Network for Arab American Communities
National Newspaper Publishers Associations
National Organization for Women (NOW)
National Partnership for Women & Families
National Women's History Project
The New Agenda
The New York Immigration Coalition
New York State Nurses Association (NYSNA)
Newtown Action Alliance
NO More
One Billion Rising
OXFAM
PEN America
Planned Parenthood
Positive Women's Network NYC Chapter
Progressive Coders Network
Pussy Hat Project
The Representation Project
RISE When We Fall
See Jane Do
Sierra Club
Skinless Project
The Next Four Years - Milwaukee
The Philosopher's Stone
Trayvon Martin Foundation
Unitarian Universalist Women's Federation
United University Professions
UniteWomen.org
Unite Women New York Inc.
United We Dream
URGE: Unite for Reproproductive & Gender Equity
V-Day
Voto Latino
VROOMZ
We Are Woman
The Women's Information Network (WIN NYC)
Women Across Frontiers
Women for Justice
Women for Women International
Women-Matter
WomenNC - NC Committee for CEDAW/CSW
Women Occupy Hollywood
Women On 20s, Inc.
Women Thrive Alliance
Women TIES, LLC
Women Watching Washington
YWCA Metropolitan Chicago

rehajm said...

Chelsea Handler, who is leading a satellite march in Hollywood-studded Sundance

Heh. You start with the dedicated people who were willing to show up and spend the day in Washington. Then you get to the people who agreed to participate but from the steps of their trailer. It always just ends with, like, Chelsea Handler leading a 'satellite march' at Sundance on her way to scoping out whatever they turned Cisero's into before things get going at Tao.

Mark said...

I've noticed a lot of ANSWER posters going up around town here in D.C. They are, of course, high quality, indicating they are highly organized and well-financed, and not coming from everyday common people.

They are the usual suspects - professional protesters, some of whom even place "want ads" looking to pay people to go protest.

Henry said...

Get on the bus.

Darrell said...

I woke up today thinking that Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States. It wasn't a dream, but glorious reality.

Henry said...

They got 8 "debaters"

In my first scan I read that as 8 inch debaters. Now that would be an interesting forum.

Birches said...

I wonder how much coverage March for Life will get the week following...

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traditionalguy said...

No, no, bad Trump. The man who loves too much. He even bought Beauty Pageants to get inside access.

But he doesn't wear shorts. So he could be worse.

mockturtle said...

ARM bleats: It is entirely reasonable for women to protest Trump's stated attitudes towards women. These attitudes do no reflect well on Trump, whatever you may think of some of his other policies.

It is clear that ARM also sees women as a monolithic mass of brainless twits.

Mac McConnell said...

These chicks will help Trump's re-election in four years, I hope they riot.

Mark said...

The number of news stories on this event could fill a couple of thick volumes.

Meanwhile, the 100,000-200,000 women, men and children who will be there for the women-led March for Life -- and who have been there every year for four decades -- are complete invisible non-entities to the media.

Also, whereas D.C. is increasing its police presence for the leftist march, including a bunch of troops from the National Guard, and whereas these angry protesters will likely trash the place, the March for Life will once again be a totally peaceful, family-friendly event with people picking up after themselves and leaving behind a clean Mall and street.

Chuck said...

Althouse, you singled out the contribution of Kay Hymowitz from the Manhattan Institute. I expect that most of your readers know the Manhattan Institute. For those who don't, it is a respected conservative think tank.

I thought Kay's contribution was fine. Like most leading conservatives, she had very good reason to not support Donald Trump. Also like most leading conservatives, she is chipping in to help out with the nascent Trump Administration's genuine efforts to move the federal government in a conservative direction.

Trump, and his campaign staff, and lots of his supporters all said at various times that the Trump campaign was not about conservatism, per se.

So I'd appreciate it if you'd clarify that you were not criticizing Kay Hymowitz's opening qualification that she "was not a Trump supporter." It's the Times' fault, and not Kay Hymowitz's, for not including one or more female Trump True Believers like Ann Coulter, or a male True Believer like Jeff Lord.

rcocean said...

What an interesting take on "Diversity"

2 Jews, 2 Blacks, 1 Indian (Hindu), 1 Asian, and 2 others. I don't see any Hispanics. Number of Lesbians? Unclear.

Michael K said...

Blogger sunsong said...
Trump is the divisive figure of import here. What a way to miss the point, imo.


Speaking of missing the point.

TwilightofLiberty.com said...

Not entirely related but they are bringing in 5,000 National Guard troops for the inauguration because lefty professors are #peaceful and #tolerant.

rcocean said...

From looking at their pictures I don't anyone of them have to worry about a Trumpian pussy grab.

So, they can meet the great man in safety.

TwilightofLiberty.com said...

Crap - protesters, not professors.

Bay Area Guy said...

"Liberal" Women's March - somehow the NYTimes keeps omitting the first descriptive word.

I don't see Sarah Palin, KellyAnne Conway, Joni Ernst, Ann Althouse or the 30+ Million women who voted FOR Trump, attending this March.

As an aside, my wife did not vote for Trump, but would not attend this silly march. She respects the democratic voting process, the certified results from the Electoral College, and the Office of the President.



stever said...

This is for people who can't imagine a world where people don't think like they do. Reality is tough.

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AReasonableMan said...

mockturtle said...
It is clear that ARM also sees women as a monolithic mass of brainless twits


Stupid comment, unsupported by facts. Possible evidence that you (singular) are a brainless twit.

Sebastian said...

The rally poses another version of Sebastian's Dilemma: ridicule or encourage? (Yeah, I know, some people here think righty ridicule itself encourages the left.) I go for encourage: the more inane blather about uniting women by mindlessly opposing Trump, the more actual women, particularly white married women, will tune out the left, solidifying a GOP voting bloc.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

It is entirely reasonable for [some] women to protest Trump's stated attitudes towards women If they are offended.

Protesting, peacefully is everyone's right.

However....it is unreasonable for those women to demand that ALL other women be likewise offended and that ALL other women must think exactly as they do... or else.

It is unreasonable to cast aspersions on people who have chosen other paths, other policies and other priorities without even pausing to consider the circumstances and reasons behind the other persons' thought processes.

It is unreasonable to call names and vilify because you can't get a group think, one size fits all, mentality imposed on other people.

Protest all you want. Just stop interfering in other people's lives who aren't interested in your priorities or your ineffective, shrill tantrums that you call protests and which turn other people off. This is how you got Trump and still refuse to even try to figure it out.

rcocean said...

Kay Hymowitz was a never trumper. Interestingly, every "conservative" that has written regularly for the NYT/WaPo was a #nevertrumper: Brooks, Douhnat, Kristol, Will, Frum, Rubin and Parker.

Fernandinande said...

Respect the Diversity of Values Among Pussy Grabbers

Do Not Look for My Pussy at the Women’s March

My Feelings About the Women’s Pussies Have Evolved

Marches and Identity Politics Are For Pussies

There’s a Way to Unite All Pussies in This March

The March Will Only Reinforce the Pussy in America

We Are at a Tipping Point, and Pussy Is Needed

Stand-Up for Sisterhood and Pussyhood

Chuck said...

rcocean said...
Kay Hymowitz was a never trumper. Interestingly, every "conservative" that has written regularly for the NYT/WaPo was a #nevertrumper: Brooks, Douhnat, Kristol, Will, Frum, Rubin and Parker.


Again -- and assuming you are right -- go ahead and blame the Times for that. If I have an issue with any given writer, that is a separate matter.

Humperdink said...

Hoping they invited Bill Clinton to speak at the march.

Mark said...

Of course, the obvious question to ask these folks is just exactly what is it that they are protesting? That is, what is it that they want to be different or changed?

That we throw out the results of the election? That we refuse to allow Trump into the Oval Office? That he just go away and disappear?

What really are they asking for? What do they really expect people to do in response?

Or is this rage just for the sake of rage?

Chuck said...

I liked the contribution from the Africana studies prof at Williams. Who won't be attending the march because of some too-complicated-to-describe complaint with "straight white women."

Between her, and Donald Trump, they will put The Onion out of business.

Hunter said...

"No woman will be forgotten" say women who always seem to forget that around 4 in 10 women are pro-life and vote Republican.

Joe said...

I'd pay attention if it was an actual march.

Chuck said...

Mark said...
Of course, the obvious question to ask these folks is just exactly what is it that they are protesting?
...

"What have you got?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4NkkAQllfo


Dust Bunny Queen said...

Of course, the obvious question to ask these folks is just exactly what is it that they are protesting? That is, what is it that they want to be different or changed?

I doubt that they even know the answer to that question themselves.

Hunter said...

Mark said...
Of course, the obvious question to ask these folks is just exactly what is it that they are protesting? That is, what is it that they want to be different or changed?

It's a pre-protest for the anti-woman policies Trump has not proposed but simply must be lurking in that deplorable, misogynist, Republican (but I repeat myself) orange head of his.

Tari said...

Poor things - they hate that they lost, and they can't get over it. They are going to "resist" the Trump presidency, which means getting together and "marching", as well as forcing you to read their political opinions on Facebook (until you unfriend or unfollow them). Sore losers who think they know better than the rest of you - they'll teach you, with their march!

I have a few delusional friends who are participating in this "resistance". They're in their 40s and want to feel a part of something important. Apparently yoga class isn't fulfilling enough, and God forbid they turn to organized religion! I have more pity than contempt for them, especially since I think they do their cause no favors with this spoiled-brat nonsense. That is, when I think of them at all. Most of the time I have better things to do.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

AReasonableMan said...

It is entirely reasonable for women to protest Trump's stated attitudes towards women.

Which stated attitudes would those be?

rehajm said...

I'm not a big knitter but the hats for the march seem kind of phoned in.

cubanbob said...

The guy isn't sworn in yet and these self-important loons are having a meltdown. Please keep reminding everyone who voted for Trump why the voted for Trump and why they will vote for Trump again in four years.

Brando said...

There's a good weekend to avoid the city. Not that I think there'd be violence (beyond the usual packs of feral children that are assaulting people on Metro) but who needs all that traffic clogging noise? Can't they just blow up their facebook feeds or something?

Curious George said...

"The election was “a warning that feminism, as it has been defined, did not inspire enough people in enough places around the country,” Susan Chira wrote in The Times recently. Marchers should take heed."

It worse than you think, sweetheart.

Fernandinande said...

They should Learn From Nature:

Monkeys mourn the death of a robot baby
"We felt this calm and silence coming over them. All the noise they were making at the beginning just went completely silent and then they hugged each other.”

harryo said...

I would be willing to see the 19th Amendment revoked. I'm tired of hysterics.

pdug said...

I wanted to like LeRhonda S. Manigault-Bryant's "Do Not Look for Me at the Women’s March on Washington"

but

"In this event black women are merely peripheral interlocutors for what are supposed to be women’s rights and human rights writ large."

I think if they're peripheral, they aren't really interlocutors at all. Or something. A reader comment calls it a word salad. I tend to agree.

*And how can you tell what it will be like at the event if you don't go*

AReasonableMan said...

Dust Bunny Queen said...
Protesting, peacefully is everyone's right.

However....it is unreasonable for those women to demand that ALL other women be likewise offended and that ALL other women must think exactly as they do... or else.


They are not doing this any more than Paul Ryan was expecting all men to agree with him when he said of Trump's comments “I am sickened by what I heard today”.

Curious George said...

One thing that they can unite about? Tying their sweaters around their waist to hide their fat asses.

Mike said...

It is entirely reasonable for women to protest Trump's stated attitudes towards women.

When he speaks of women in general, the terms are broad, like "I respect women" and "I love women" or "when you're famous they let you do whatever..." How do you reconcile these attitudes you think he displays? Maybe you are confusing (deliberately or not) his disdain for certain people, like Rosie O'Donnell, for his "attitude towards women" without taking into consideration his actual treatment of women. Kind of like the way people say he "insulted Muslims" because he didn't like what the Khans said about him, or the way "he mocks the disabled" based on fake news about that reporter who disavowed his own published article.

So I am curious on what exactly this knowledge of Trump's "attitudes" is based.

Mike said...

Blogger sunsong said...
Trump is the divisive figure of import here. What a way to miss the point, imo.

Speaking of missing the point.


Yes, Michael K. It is a puzzler.

So trying to assemble a million protesters to whine about the election they lost is UNITING us instead of dividing?

AReasonableMan said...

Mike said...
So I am curious on what exactly this knowledge of Trump's "attitudes" is based.


Same thing Paul Ryan heard.

BJM said...

Trump's stated attitudes towards women

Therein lies the rub, we don't know what Trump's attitude towards women actually is, all we know is what the media and the Left imagine/state it to be.

As a woman, I really don't care what this group thinks or wants, they do not represent me or my concerns, and appear to confuse vindication and vindictiveness.

"Comeuppance", by William Flesch discusses how we make sense of the social world in fiction, it very aptly translates to the post-election tumult the left is propagating. See pg 154 Comeuppance

The media will fawn as the marchers preen and virtue-signal, but at the end of the day, we, those whose very existence they refuse to acknowledge, have rendered them powerless; which has a pleasing symmetry.

damikesc said...

"The First National Demonstration In Response to the Election of Donald Trump"?

We've seen nothing but demonstrations for weeks now.

It is entirely reasonable for women to protest Trump's stated attitudes towards women.

He pays them better than Hillary did...

It is clear that ARM also sees women as a monolithic mass of brainless twits.

That's feminism for you.

Nobody thinks less of women than modern feminists. Why, if a woman has a single drink, she's no more responsible for her actions than a toddler.

Not entirely related but they are bringing in 5,000 National Guard troops for the inauguration because lefty professors are #peaceful and #tolerant.

Yup. As opposed to the icky Tea Party types.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

They are not doing this any more than Paul Ryan was expecting all men to agree with him when he said of Trump's comments “I am sickened by what I heard today”.

That isn't really a very good comparison since Ryan didn't on to vilify, call names, declare men who don't agree with him to be not "true" women as the more radical of the feminists do. Ryan didn't call men a traitor to their sex if they didn't give a flip about Trump's crude remarks.

Note: I am not defending Trump's decades old remarks that were made in a private conversation. I just don't care about those things because we have MUCH bigger fish to fry and other things of more general importance to focus upon.

Ryan and the Feminists have a right to their opinions and to voice their opinions. They don't have a right to demand that everyone must agree with those opinions....or else.

The liberals demand lockstep. The GOPe also seems to want to do the same.

THIS is WHY Trump won. People are sick of being pigeonholed, categorized and ostracized if they don't march in formation.

gadfly said...

My wife is a Trump supporter - so last night during a rerun of "Meet the Depressed" with Chucky Todd, et al, she blurted out that "people don't understand Trump's sense of humor" or words to that effect.

Please understand that my wife is an avid reader consuming written material at a rate of the equivalent of a book a night - but she has chosen not to spend her time researching thirty years of Trump's ugly history in order to assess the character of her favorite politician. When emotion takes over, logic is the first casualty, so nothing can change her mind.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

but she has chosen not to spend her time researching thirty years of Trump's ugly history in order to assess the character of her favorite politician

Not speaking for your wife, of course. I'm sure she can speak for herself. Why should she waste her time on that? Perhaps she has decided that that stuff is irrelevant to the problems that this country faces today.

Rampant illegal immigration.
Drug cartels.
No border security.
Terrorism.
Rising crime and murders in the inner cities.
Decimation of the rural economies.
Runaway out of control government bureaucracies. IRS EPA
Over regulating by un-elected petty officials killing jobs.
Trade deficits.
Middle East out of control.
Obamacare debacle and destruction of the health care sector.
Taxation.
Collapsing social welfare systems.
Fraud and abuse in those systems.
VA system literally killing veterans.
Ineffective and dangerous foreign policy.
Weakening and destruction of our military.
Disgraceful education system crippling our youth.
On and on and on

That a young Trump talked boastfully about some twat's pussy is the least concern to me....and maybe your wife as well.

Focus!!!! Some things are important. Others aren't. God give you the ability to distinguish which is which.

Bad Lieutenant said...

pdug said...
I wanted to like LeRhonda S. Manigault-Bryant's "Do Not Look for Me at the Women’s March on Washington"

but

"In this event black women are merely peripheral interlocutors for what are supposed to be women’s rights and human rights writ large."

I think if they're peripheral, they aren't really interlocutors at all. Or something. A reader comment calls it a word salad. I tend to agree.

*And how can you tell what it will be like at the event if you don't go*

1/9/17, 11:16 AM

Amazing the reverence of the untutored for big talk, for fancy dressing on the word salad. "Peripheral interlocutors" is so much more elevating/ed than "peanut gallery," n'est-ce pas?

Bad Lieutenant said...

gadfly,

My wife is a Trump supporter -
...
Please understand that my wife is an avid reader
...
change her mind.

1/9/17, 11:56 AM

Don't worry, we understand. She is obviously more intelligent, or wiser, than you are. I guess you are well-hung, or long-tongued or double-jointed or something, to keep her around; how nice for you!

traditionalguy said...

But, but, but ...he only meant Rosie O'Donnel.

They need Rosie as the Head Majorette. She can keep them in line.

mockturtle said...

I supported Trump in both the primary and the Presidential election because I like his ideas, he seemed to be a doer rather than just a talker and because he gave the finger to the MSM and the GOP establishment.

Fen said...

"feminism did not inspire - "

Oh it inspired, just not the way you wanted.

All the sane women I know have rejected it. They claim its no longer about promoting Equality for women, its about Othering males and creating hatred and divisiveness for the Left to exploit.

Doesn't help that "Pussy Hats" are to be worn at the march. Cute idea until you realize that it simply reminds normal Americans of all thru Bleed In Public and Pisa Your Pants protests (and hoaxes).

Come to think of it, having your Equal Rights Movement hijacked by Marxist Lesbian Harridans is not good for Women.

Fen said...

All the Bleed In Public and Piss Your Pants protests

Have I mentioned lately how much Dell sucks? They really suck.

Rusty said...

Must be that time of month.

Fen said...

I'm reminded that throughout history, the most effective arm of Teh Patriarchy! was other women.

Rusty said...

How many feminist does it take to change a tire?
None.
They'll stand around whining and complaining until a man changes it.

n.n said...

The rise of female chauvinism is a concern for men and women, boys and girls, and especially the most vulnerable, wholly innocent little human lives. Think of the babies!

Hell no, we won't Choose.

Drago said...

AReasonableMan: "It is entirely reasonable for women to protest Trump's stated attitudes towards women. These attitudes do no reflect well on Trump, whatever you may think of some of his other policies."

These chicks don't need your mansplainin' validation Mr. Potential Rapist.

Fen said...

"same thing Ryan heard"

See how dishonest Trump's critics are? You ask a direct question and they respond with vague assertions... because they know the details don't support their narrative. It's likely why an avid reader like Gadfly's wife simply tunes them out.

I dealt with this pre-election. Every time the Left called him racist sexist homophobic xenophobic etc, I would ask for evidence. And every single time their response consisted of hand-waving "it's over there somewhere in that 1500 word article"

Shorter - Trump was talking about groupies. And Rosie who really is a nasty and despicable person. Same way he was talking about illegal immigrants and not all Mexicans or Muslim refugees.

Has to be frustrating for the Left - they have been so dishonest that normal people no longer bother listening to their rants. So now they think dialing it up to 11 will finally get through to us bitter clinging rubes. LOL. Remember this next time this insist they are so much smarter and sophisticated than you :)

mockturtle said...

How many feminist does it take to change a tire?
None.
They'll stand around whining and complaining until a man changes it.


Truly strong, independent women are not whiners and are quite capable of solving problems. Not that they don't necessarily appreciate male assistance when needed or wanted or admit that men are better at some things than women. It's just a fact, not a political point. Men and women were put on earth to be partners, not adversaries.

n.n said...

Make life, not Choice.

Men and women are equal and complementary.

[class] Diversity denies individual dignity.

Pro-Choice (i.e. selective, opportunistic, really) is the preferred quasi-religion for 9 out of 10 trans-humans.

Reject unqualified progress. Deny your twilight faith. Don't fear the light of dawn.

walter said...

"FREE THE NIPPLE"

Yes! (it will be cold too)

n.n said...

mockturtle:

Men and women were put on earth to be partners, not adversaries.

I second the motion.

From our origin on Mars and Venus, respectively, we have come together on Earth [in the sight of God] for the joining in marriage of this man and this woman.

Fen said...

Chuck: "I would appreciate it if you would clarify that you were not criticizing -"

Good grief. Why does a 'lifelong conservative' sound like SJW Thought Police?

I took Alehouse's remark as weariness that 'true' conservatives like you have this constant need to distance themselves from any association of Trump. I often do the same, but I admit it's cowardly.

And it reminds me of the "but I have a black friend" cliché we hear just before a racist remark.

"...please don't think less of me, I'm really one of you guys and not the typical bitter clinger toothless redneck in flyover country, but I have something PlusGood to say about He Who Can't Be Named... can I still sit at the Cool Kids table at Martha's Vineyard?"

That's what it comes across as.

Fen said...

Alehouse not alehouse.

It's been 5 mins since I reminded you that Dell sucks.

walter said...

"Be Kind for Lyme is the do good, feel good movement! They challenge people to random acts of kindness; and to post about it with video/pics/stories.
<
This is supposed to be fun and a way to create a kinder community with understanding of Lyme Disease while helping with research and awareness"
http://www.lymethriving.com/blog/be-kind-for-lyme/

?!!

walter said...

Fen,
A coupla typos can get us to Mead and Alehouse

Bruce Hayden said...

How many feminist does it take to change a tire?
None.
They'll stand around whining and complaining until a man changes it.

Truly strong, independent women are not whiners and are quite capable of solving problems. Not that they don't necessarily appreciate male assistance when needed or wanted or admit that men are better at some things than women. It's just a fact, not a political point. Men and women were put on earth to be partners, not adversaries.


Any daughter of mine was going to know how to change a tire, as well as make a living in a "men's" world. And shoot a gun. But, also, have a AAA membership. The funny thing is that I moved from a marriage to a feminist who could change a tire, and make a good living in the patriarchy, to a woman who has never changed a tire in her life, expecting (with good reason) for guys to line up for the chance to do it for her. Furtherest thing from a feminist, and willing to repeal the 19th Amdt if it meant depriving feminists of the vote, and electing more conservative candidates. Of course, she is on my AAA membership, because I don't have a tow company on speed dial like her ex did. And, grew up shooting, taught by a mother whom her father called "Annie Oakley". Maybe the commonality there - ability to possess and shoot firearms in their own defense.

Intellectually, I sympathize with feminists, having been raised by a mother whose female ancestors were active in the sufferage movement as early as the 1850s (and voted for Lincoln, while sending their husbands and sons to fight for him in the Civil War). But, more and more, I see the feminist movement being one of female supremacy, which I see as bad, if for no other reason than that I see men voting more rationally, and less emotionally. (And, as many know here, I partially blame modern feminism for much of the inner city violence we see today).

Kirk Parker said...

Captain Drano,

Come on! If "Free The Nipple" is for this march, who are we to stand in their way? Just think of how outstanding those free nipples will be on a cold January in DC!


DBQ,

"God give you the ability to distinguish which is which."

Objection! Asserting facts not in evidence.

walter said...

DC merchants, vendors, hotels and porta-potty outfits owe Trump big-league.

Fen said...

Bruce's comment reminds me of a feminist I dated in college, back when I was an emotional liberal. Someone slit her tire while we were at a restaurant. When we came out, I offered to help her change the tire. She would have none of that! She was independent!

And then she attempted to attach the lug wrench to the tire's air valve... So I stepped in took over. "No worries, I did the exact same thing my first time" I said just so she wouldn't feel like an idiot. It was a little lie, and it got me laid that night. But I never looked at her the same way again.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

"God give you the ability to distinguish which is which."

Objection! Asserting facts not in evidence.

That was a plea for God to give him the ability, since it doesn't seem he possesses it now :-D

walter said...

Fen,
I went through similar when a grad student at Madison was hell bent on proving there are bus stops in rural Wisconsin. She was an Ag Econ major...

Unknown said...

it's linking as Marches and Identity Politics are Futile, in title and hyperlinks. I'd say that's telling.

Kirk Parker said...

DBQ: my apologies, I misread your statement as "God gave" rather than "God give". Yeah your actual version makes perfect sense.

Captain Drano said...

Kirk Parker, funny you should pick the one that stood out to me as well--"FREE THE NIPPLE"--I was so triggered by it that I thought about writing them and demanding they change their name as it traumatizes me. / (I had a double mastectomy, and all those hormonal birth control-popping feminists should just be thankful they have nipples to free--for now. Given them a few more years on HBC and many will have a scalpel physically "free the nipple" for them.)

harkin said...

Maybe the ladies should bring in Farrakhan to expound on the number 19.

Chuck said...

Fen;

I want to assure -- promise you, actually -- that I DO INDEED have a need to constantly distance myself from Trump. I hope that makes you feel better. It makes me feel better. We can feel better together.

AReasonableMan said...

Dust Bunny Queen said...
That a young Trump talked boastfully about some twat's pussy i


This is a bit like Henry Hyde's 'youthful indiscretion'. Neither 'young' nor 'youthful'.

Unknown said...

Except for that one rude comment by Trump from years ago, I do not recall any of his speeches that could be called anti-woman. His focus on jobs can only help women (which 56% of white women apparently figured out). It is a gross assumption out of thin air that this is somehow bad for women. Dems have been claiming that republicans are waging a war on women for decades now, again with no evidence. Gotta rally the special interests!!

walter said...

So these orgs and such giving $$ for this.what will it be spent on? Speechifyin'?
Can they afford Hil?

aritai said...

Sure is amusing. All these folks without a full chromosome set being yelled by that those that do. Given they gave birth to them they should be walking robots of what can I do for you mom? Here you go take all my money. Oops they already do. On top of that those with a full set seem to be able to lead those around by their equivalent of a p..sy with ease. Sometimes all it takes is a look and a wiggle. Granted, maybe to get this level of servitude, you need a traditional mom, in a traditional nuclear family explaining the facts of life to little Johnny and how to avoid diseases of the worst types. And avoid choosing lifestyles, even you have no choice that Castro locked up for their short remaining lives without care or relief, because quarantine was all he could do. The wonders of how socialism ends medical advances. That advance is jus too costly. We (except me) can do without.

n.n said...

Dear Female chauvinists, you have the power to end the abortion chambers.

Think of the babies! Think of the boys and girls who will grow up to be men and women, fathers and mothers, grandfathers and grandmothers.

That said, individual dignity, intrinsic value, and natural imperatives. Go forth and reconcile.

FullMoon said...

Marches, celebrity disrespect, comedian jokes will not convert any Trump voters to liberalism. These same factors may convert some libs to Trump supporters. Have already heard several women Hillary supporters say they are getting tired of this stuff, Also, "he is not even president yet".
Now if things improve enough that people can look around and see things are better, more statements positive of Trump, or at least, less negative, might be made.
Big problem for Trump is he will now be blamed for every terror attack in USA. I expect attacks like San Berdoo and Florida will happen. Diff will be in amount of news coverage.
Will be interesting to see news coverage on inauguration day, and response to it.

Jupiter said...

Blogger Curious George said...

"One thing that they can unite about? Tying their sweaters around their waist to hide their fat asses."

Yes, I think that's a program calculated to bring together a nation even more bitterly divided than our own.

n.n said...

It's not as if Trump was steeped in redistributive change ideology.

On what grounds do these women oppose revitalization, rehabilitation, and reconciliation?

It's principled. It's internally, externally, and mutually consistent. It's positive progress.

n.n said...

Curious George:

Catastrophic Anthropogenic Girth Widening (CAGW) has global implications that affects both women and men. I propose a carbohydrate sequestration exchange scheme to mitigate the effects of sinking cushions, progressive medical conditions, frustrated libido, and seating surcharges.

mockturtle said...

Actions speak louder [so they say] than words. Trump has placed women in executive positions his entire career and is not patronizing to them but actually trusts that they can do the job. And, unlike some of his Democratic predecessors, has not made unwanted advances toward any women. Better to talk 'pussies' and deliver the goods than to pay lip service [no pun intended] to respect for women and then treat them like whores.

exiledonmainstreet said...

"Doesn't help that "Pussy Hats" are to be worn at the march."

Yeah, 'cause nothing says "I am a serious adult with serious concerns" like wearing a Pussy Hat.

Imagine a Men's March filled with men wearing dick hats.

mockturtle said...

Imagine a Men's March filled with men wearing dick hats.

Maybe in a Gay Pride parade. You see a lot of weirdness there.

tcrosse said...

The Garrison Cap, a standard issue item of military uniform, is know by the troops as the Cunt Cap.

ceowens said...

@tcrosse - If your head was a little wider than normal and the Garrison Cap was rotated 90 degrees ...

JML said...

I was really disappointed by the hat. It doesn't look at all like something I'd like to grab.

Captain Drano said...

http://vesselnews.io/soros-gave-nearly-90-million-anti-trump-womens-march-partners/