The moderator Chuck Todd had brought up Trump's response to Khizr Khan — "I was viciously attacked by Mr. Khan at the Democratic Convention, am I not allowed to respond? Hillary voted for the Iraq War, not me." — and Doris Kearns Goodwin had recycled her idea that the question is "temperament" and Alex Castellanos seemed to think he was improving on that by saying "it's a choice between temperament and character." Castellanos honed his utterly dull distinction by redoing it as New Testament/Old Testament:
You know, is it a New Testament election where things are going swimmingly and we turn the other cheek? Or is this an Old Testament election where we could lose it all and an eye for an eye?I keep hearing all these Trump antagonists portraying Trump as "dark," but calling someone dark is dark, and Brooks looked way too psyched about Hell. Meanwhile, Khizr Khan was on CNN declaring that Trump is "a black soul":
"He is a black soul, and this is totally unfit for the leadership of this country," Khan said. "The love and affection that we have received affirms that our grief -- that our experience in this country has been correct and positive. The world is receiving us like we have never seen. They have seen the blackness of his character, of his soul."
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@MayBee:
"J Farmer- Who knows if Petraeus was uber-threatening? Easier to take him out than to find out, no?"
Well, unless you're alleging that he was set up, it looks like the only person to "take him out" was himself.
J Farmer-
I don't think he was set up.
I'm guessing the Obama administration had reason to believe he could be sullied- perhaps this affair was not his first go-round, you know?
They certainly used a marginal threat against a socialite in Florida to read his private emails. They really dug in.
@MayBee:
"I'm guessing the Obama administration had reason to believe he could be sullied- perhaps this affair was not his first go-round, you know?"
Well, Petraeus wasn't charged with having an extramarital affair. He could've easily slept with Broadwell without giving her carte blanche to his classified documentation. And he could have come clean about it when questioned by the FBI instead of lying. He dug his own grave. Though I don't really think his presidential ambitions would've led anywhere anyway. Remember all the hype about Fred Thompson joining the 2008 campaign? And then he immediately started putting everybody to sleep. Rick Perry was similarly ballyhooed in the 2012 campaign before his brief stint as a campaigner ended in total humiliation.
@MayBee:
"They certainly used a marginal threat against a socialite in Florida to read his private emails."
Not exactly out of character for the FBI.
"They really dug in."
He was director of the CIA at the time. They should dig. For one, a jilted mistress could be in a position to blackmail or extort.
Well, Petraeus wasn't charged with having an extramarital affair.
He resigned when he was caught having an extramarital affair.
It isn't against the law to cheat on your spouse, but it has rarely been a political plus.
. And he could have come clean about it when questioned by the FBI instead of lying. He dug his own grave
Hmmm. There is something so close to this election that I am getting from this comment.
It seems as though being able to dig into government officials' email is really important. And being honest with the FBI about your email activities is really important.
Like it could be...unsafe for the nation if someone in a sensitive cabinet-level position is secretive about his emails.
Why is this striking such a chord with me?
@MayBee:
"He resigned when he was caught having an extramarital affair."
Sure, but he could have easily weathered that storm. Being a convicted felon, not so much. The affair only came to light because his jilted mistress started pulling a Fatal Attraction routine.
@MayBee:
"Why is this striking such a chord with me?"
If you've heard me utter a supportive word of Hillary in that regard, feel free to quote it.
Otherwise, it's not a response to Petraeus' criminality to say, "Democrats do it, too!" That's childish.
Otherwise, it's not a response to Petraeus' criminality to say, "Democrats do it, too!" That's childish.
I'm not saying that at all. Petraeus did what he did, and he was caught and punished.
I'm actually saying, hmm....it seems like the guy who was flirting with the exact same socialite, and was at first pushed out of the administration for it, didn't get investigated in the exact same way, and now he's campaigning for the boss's choice. And that is interesting to me..
Petraeus and MacChrystal were our two most successful generals. Both men had to leave under a cloud. Sometimes the cover up is worse than the crime and sometimes the unwillingness to supply a cover up is worse than the crime. If they wanted to keep two generals with proven records of success on the job, they could have issued reprimands.
the lead administration advisor on islamic state, McGuirk, had a rather public relationship, with a journal reporter which derailed his nomination as ambassador to Iraq,
@William:
"If they wanted to keep two generals with proven records of success on the job, they could have issued reprimands."
Well I'd certainly take issue with the "proven records of success" line.
I would be interested in how Citizen Khan squares the Constitution with Sharia Law and Mohammed cartoons. A more rigorous media would ask him such questions......I respect Mr. Khan's sacrifice, but he has politicized his son's death, and people are entitled to respond in kind....in any event he has more standing that Michael Brown's mother. She is treated like Mother Mary at the foot of the cross,and it is impossible to say one cross word about her parenting skills.
@William:
"I would be interested in how Citizen Khan squares the Constitution with Sharia Law and Mohammed cartoons."
Ironically enough, when Muslims (especially Arabs) are given the chance to build democratic societies, they prefer ones that are very Islamic. Our entire strategic posture towards totalitarian states like Saudi Arabis or military dictatorships like Egypt is that they keep a lid on democratic forces.
This is just one of the many reasons that Bush's democracy crusade in the middle east was such a farcical absurdity.
Why is Khizr Khan pissed at Trump? Muslims killed his son.
Are either of the Khans, father or son, US citizens? On Captain Khan's Wikipedia page it does not say, only that he was born in UAE to Pakistani parents and came to the US at age 2.
It lists his "allegiance" as being to the US but has nothing to say about his citizenship. I am not certain that US citizenship is an absolute requirement to join the army though it may be for an officer.
Since he was born to Pakistani parents, was he (also?) a citizen of Pakistan?
I don't ask this to deride Khan. The little I know he was a very good and very brave soldier and should be honored for this.
What about the father? He's been here since 1980, has he become a US citizen? More importantly, has he renounced his Pakistani citizenship? He wants to be an American. Dual citizenship is profoundly unAmerican.
Anyone know?
Dr. Weevil,
The Seventh is the destination of suicides, blasphemers, sodomites, and usurers. Does Brooks think these things should be severely punished? Most (all?) of them aren't even crimes these days. Just what is he (or his subconscious) getting at here?
There are also tyrants and murderers. And really, really profligate spenders -- distinguished somehow from the "squanderers" of the Third Circle. But suicides, blasphemers, sodomites, and usurers, definitely.
As to whether they are crimes: Well, usury needs better definition; Muslims, for example, tend to define all lending of money at interest, however small, as usury, whereas we tend to reserve that term for small businesses like payday lenders. All the rest of your list, though, are legal in the US, though blasphemy (against some religions, anyway) isn't really advisable.
He looked weirdly wild-eyed. What set him off that badly?
Perhaps it was the crease in Trump's pants.
Black soul?
Hey! He feels good.
He knew that he would
He feels good.
He knew that he would now..
So good!
So good!
He got you!
(It's high time. She wants it.)
I take it the "media" have long since dropped the idea that Republican's exploited the grief of the mom Hil lied to.
Now that Hil's exploiting grief, all good.
Big Mike said... "As to Brooks, he wrote in a column published weeks ago that he planned to meet with real Trump voters to assess why they are voting the way they are. To my knowledge he has never followed up."
Maybe he did, but the results didn't fit his narrative.
@Nate Whilk:
"Big Mike said... "As to Brooks, he wrote in a column published weeks ago that he planned to meet with real Trump voters to assess why they are voting the way they are. To my knowledge he has never followed up."
Maybe he did, but the results didn't fit his narrative."
Haha. God Brooks is tedious. And what the hell is a fake Trump voter, anyway?
Brooks is exactly the wrong person to report on Trump, because Trump's nomination is a repudiation of pretty much Brooks has stood for for the last decade and a half.
Jeebus!!
Is there any better example of deflection, red herring and Squirrel!! than all this trash talk about Petraeus????
FREE CLUE: no one gives a rat's ass about that now!
John said: Dual citizenship is profoundly unAmerican.
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Malarkey: here what the US State Dept says about that:
"A U.S. national may acquire foreign nationality by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. national may not lose the nationality of the country of birth.
U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another.
Also, a person who is automatically granted another nationality does not risk losing U.S. nationality.
However, a person who acquires a foreign nationality by applying for it may lose U.S. nationality. In order to lose U.S. nationality, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign nationality voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. nationality."
To sum up, John: you're full of shit.
"He is a black soul"
mmm... Ha! Jeez!
One personal data point, though,
my Muslim friends insist;
Hillary is awful!
Huh.
You say that like it ids a bad thing.....i thought you Lefties liked draft dodgers..........
Especially given that the ONLY reason Hillary is in the running is a very well-known draft dodger.
Blogger MayBee said...
And the man who underwent a less vigorous investigation than Petraeus did? Did he get something of a pass?
And Hillary sent thousands of those emails and suffered no punishment whatsoever...
Otherwise, it's not a response to Petraeus' criminality to say, "Democrats do it, too!" That's childish.
Petraeus did far less than Hillary did. Worlds less.
I respect Mr. Khan's sacrifice
Khan didn't sacrifice. It wasn't HIS decision for his kid to serve. His KID sacrificed.
And can he provide a better plan on how to find the difference between his son and Hassan?
This is just one of the many reasons that Bush's democracy crusade in the middle east was such a farcical absurdity.
Which Hillary ran with in Libya and Syria. Flooding Europe with refugees, destabilizing Turkey. Oops!
"Not all Muslims are terrorist killers in the name of Allah. Not all Muslims sympathize with the terrorist killers. Not all Muslims want to have sharia law replace our Western laws and customs. Not all Muslims want to repress women and treat them as chattel. Not all Muslims want to kill homosexuals."
Clyde, then according to the Koran they are not Muslims AT ALL. Simple as that.
You should also know that Islam is the only faith that specifically says that NO agreement with any infidel is binding once it ceases to benefit Islam, and that LYING about Islam is commanded. This means that no ACTUAL MUSLIM can take the citizenship oath without reservation.
Trump mishandled this.
He should have acknowledged the son's heroism then he should have mentioned the Ft Hood major who slaughtered American soldiers while screaming the usual Allah crap.
He should have mentioned Obama calling the terrorism "work place" violence.
But he did none of that.
the problem is the journolist prints the press release, except when they don't
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/08/who_is_khizr_kahn_the_father_of_a_fallen_us_solder.html
You have a nice day too, wholelottasplaining.
I never said that dual citizenship was illegal. It is permitted in some circumstances, as you point out. It is frowned upon generally under US law, though.
But all that has nothing to do with what I said. I did not address the legality.
I said that dual citizenship was UnAmerican and I stand by that, regardless of legal status. If one is going to be a US citizen, whether by birth or by naturalization, one should go all in and be only a US citizen. Divided loyalties are UnAmerican.
I did find that Khan the father is a naturalized US citizen. Did not find whether or not he is still a Pakistani citizen. Did not find anything about the son's citizenship.
Once again, anyone know?
John Henry
@ARM and Maybee You are using civilian standards in judging the Allen situation. Article 134 is so all encompassing that Allen's actions fall easily under it. Forgetting the UCMJ; Maybee is correct in asking what in hell Allen was doing chasing Kelley when he was supposed to be running a war. Certainly his superiors and subordinates were wondering the same thing. He had lost credibility with the troops which would make him unsuited for command. Allen understood this even if Obama didn't.
@Shiloh Just so you understand the relationship: "The United States Marine Corps (USMC) is a branch of the United States Armed Forces responsible for providing power projection,[7] using the mobility of the United States Navy to, by Congressional mandate, rapidly deliver combined-arms task forces on land, at sea, and in the air. The U.S. Marine Corps is one of the four armed service branches in the U.S. Department of Defense and one of the seven uniformed services of the United States."
You know, of course, that your mis-appropriation of the phrase "Semper Fi' adds nothing to your stature; you'll always be a squid -not that there's anything wrong with that.
AReasonableMan said...
A not unreasonable viewis that Petraeus actually got something of a pass and was lucky to get off as lightly as he did by avoiding both a felony charge and prison time.
7/31/16, 9:27 PM"
Too bad the DoJ didn't hold Petraeus to the same high hurdle it used for Hillary Clinton.
What is an "uber threat"? Is this some kind of new service where you can hire an Uber driver to threaten someone you don't like?
Is there a service to back this up? UberAmash perhaps. If the threat doesn't work you get an Uber driver to run over the person.
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